There is an apparent omission error in NRIS for
Yolo County Courthouse, which was NRHP-listed on February 26, 1987, as can be seen on page 26 of the 144 page PDF file of NRHP listings during 1987. Which you access by clicking on "1986" (not 1987) on the NRHP announcements page [
here]. However, NRIS reports only that its application was received on date of December 16, 1986, in refnum 86003660, with status "DR" that apparently means "Date received/pending nomination". NRIS should be corrected to show its NRHP listing in 1987. Issue identified by
User:Killiondude, and Elkman and i also helped sort out what happened.
doncram (
talk) 04:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Big Four House, in Sacramento, vs. Southern Pacific Railway Station, in Davis.
NRIS entry is missing for Big Four House. The NRHP refnum given in
the NHL summary webpage for Big Four House, and used in the filename for its inventory/nomination document (
https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NHLS/76000541_text) is 76000541. However, NRIS shows "Southern Pacific Railroad Station" in Davis, instead, for that refnum (see
NRHP.COM version, which gives " (added 1976 - Building - #76000541), H and 2nd Sts., Davis)" ). Further notes (adapted from Dudemanfellabra posting at wt:NRHP):
The nomination form has information about the "Big Four House" and not the "Southern Pacific Railroad Station", but says that the Big Four (which are people) founded the Southern Pacific Railroad, so there is at least some connection with the two. The NHL summary page said the house was designated in 1961 before the NRHP was started in 1966, so the house should have been among the first listed on the NRHP on October 15, 1966.
Note, the date on the nomination form was September 1975 and it talked about events that happened as late as 1967. The Railroad Station wasn't listed until 1976, so a September 1975 nomination form date would fit, but nowhere in the form is there any mention of "Southern Pacific Railroad Station"... only "Big Four House".
The nomination form mentioned that the Big Four House had been moved in 1966 from its original location at 220-226 K Street, Sacramento to the North side of I Street between Front and Second Streets, still in the city of Sacramento, and the address listed for the Railroad Station is the corner of H and 2nd Streets, in Davis, California, an entirely separate city. Most of the
Davis (Amtrak station) article was written by
User:Duran7 (
talk) way back in 2006 (and he hasn't made an edit since 2007), and I'm not sure how reliable it is.
I am thoroughly confused as to the connection of these two properties. Maybe there's an error in the NRIS database? Perhaps whoever made the NHL summary page accidentally put in the wrong refnum and it propagated into the creation of the pdf at the wrong location? Maybe the two buildings are actually the same place, and there is an error in the address of the railroad station? All I know is that there are currently two properties in different cities linked to the same reference number, which I thought was impossible. Can anyone sort this out? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! --
Dudemanfellabra (
talk) 08:27, 8 January 2010 (UTC)reply
It seems possible the October 15, 1966 data entry was missed. Also perhaps there were 2 related NRHP entries to make into NRIS database, for "Southern Pacific Railroad Station" to cover the Davis or Davisville railroad station (
Davis (Amtrak station)) and also a change to the Big Four House property in 1976, and they got mixed up. Will check the National Register printed announcement of changes in 1976 to look for these, next.
doncram (
talk) 16:34, 8 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Page 19, in Sacramento County, CA, shows: "Sacramento. SOUTHERN PACIFIC RAILROAD COMPANY'S SACRAMENTO DEPOT, 5th and I Sts., (4-21-75)".
I see no mention of "Big Four House" or "220-226 K Street" in the Sacramento County section. There are other places listed in Sacramento. Another person's scanning the PDF might possibly turn up something else that seems relevant.
doncram (
talk) 16:57, 8 January 2010 (UTC)reply
From NPS Focus searching on "Southern Pacific", i find the "Southern Pacific Railroad Company's Sacramento Depot" listed, with refnum apparently 75000457 (from url of where document would be, although no documents are available online).
doncram (
talk) 17:11, 8 January 2010 (UTC)reply
The Sacramento county NRHP list pipelinks from "Southern Pacific Railroad Company's Sacramento Depot" (at 5th and I St) to
Sacramento Station which is "an Amtrak and Amtrak California train station which serves the city of Sacramento, California. It is located at 401 I Street, on the corner of I Street and Fifth Street."
doncram (
talk) 17:11, 8 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Adding NRHP infobox for the Sacramento depot, apparently a structure in 1925, from Elkman's system, at right. It appears the Sacramento depot was listed in April, 1975, and was adjacent or close to the original location of the Big Four House building which was being moved away in 1966.
doncram (
talk) 17:30, 8 January 2010 (UTC)reply
The Sacramento Depot is actually closer to the new location of the Big Four House. I just looked on Google Streetview and found the Big Four House in it's new location (though I had to look across a courtyard from J Street to see it because Streeview isn't available on that part of I Street), and at its old location stands an empty lot. At 401 I Street, a few blocks down from the new location of the Big Four House, is the Sacramento Depot. I don't think the Sacramento Depot has anything to do with the Big Four House. The only problem I see, as you stated below, is the mismatched reference number. --
Dudemanfellabra (
talk) 20:15, 8 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Adding a pic to that infobox here (and added to Sacramento Station article now too). There are 2 or 3 errors at the National Register involved here:
1. The 1966 beginning of the NRHP should have included the Big Four House, as it was already an NHL, but may not have. There is no entry in NRIS for this building.
2a. If the 75000456 refnum belongs to the Big Four House, as suggested by NHL webpage and the inventory document filename, then the NRIS entry for the Davis station is wrong, should have a different refnum
2b. If the 75000456 refnum belongs to the Davis station, as NRIS currently shows, then the NHL webpage for Big Four House and filename for its inventory document are wrong, should use a different refnum
Delano House, 70 Buena Vista Terrace, San Francisco, is listed in the NRIS as "Delane House". NRHP plaque says Delano. I'm inclined to believe the plaque. Delano is a historic family name in San Francisco (e.g., there's a Delano Ave. and Delano Groceries). --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 22:11, 19 April 2009 (UTC)reply
"Marguerita Lane Historic District, Marguerita La. off South Morengo Ave., Pasadena, 09000177, LISTED, 4/10/09" - new listing. The street is Marengo - not Morengo.
Einbierbitte (
talk) 17:55, 6 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Heinold's First and Last Chance Saloon, 56 Jack London Square, Oakland, is misspelled as Heinhold's in the NRIS database. In addition to the
name on the building itself, there are several plaques with the Heinold spelling. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 02:31, 1 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Dr. Edwin Hennessey House, 1727 Main St., Napa, is misspelled as Henessey in the NRIS database. It's now
operated as a bed and breakfast inn and the proprietors assured me that Hennessey is the correct spelling. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 18:27, 3 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Bakersfield Californian Building, 1707 Eye St., Bakersfield, 83001183, is misspelled as "Bakersfield California Building" in the NRIS; its
nomination form says Californian, which is the name of the newspaper based there.
TheCatalyst31Reaction•
Creation 00:32, 20 April 2013 (UTC)reply
Demolished but still listed
The Pioneer (Visalia, California), a 1915 sculpture that was listed on the NRHP in 1977, destroyed by an earthquake in 1980, gone, but apparently still listed in NRIS.
doncram (
talk) 15:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)reply
St. Paulus Lutheran Church in San Francisco burned to the ground in 1995. The property is now basically an empty lot with what remains of the building's foundation. I could find no markers. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 05:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Cowell Memorial Hospital, Berkeley demolished in 1993 and replaced by a new building for the Haas School of Business.
[1] --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 22:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Geyserville Union School, demolished in 1994 and replaced by a (now virtually empty) office-retail-residential complex.
[2] --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 04:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Typo in city name;
Winters House (Sacramento, California) is listed in NRIS as being Winters House at 2324 and 2326 H St. in "Sacremento" when correct spelling is "Sacramento". Its refnum=98001634.
doncram (
talk) 08:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Mary Andrews Clark Memorial Home is NRIS-listed at 306 S. Loma Dr., Los Angeles. That address is not recognized in Google maps. Per google maps, 306 Loma Drive in Los Angeles is located close to the NRIS-provided coordinates for the site. There are other S. Loma Drives in the L.A. area. My current belief is that it should be listed at 306 Loma Drive, Los Angeles.
doncram (
talk) 21:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)reply
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Oakland City Hall is listed in the NRIS as 1421 Washington St. That address no longer exists. The current address is 1 Frank H. Ogawa Plaza.
[3] --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 23:06, 29 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Green Gables-Mortimer Fleishhacker Country House is listed at 329 Albin Ave., Woodside. It should be 329 Albion Ave. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 20:55, 19 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The Martin Building in South San Francisco is located at 220 Linden Ave. (at Grand Ave.), not 220 Grand Ave. as recorded in the NRIS database. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 01:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)reply
A. S. Bradford House's NRIS correctly includes "Colonial Revival" as an architecture code, but it incorrectly includes "Georgian Revival". Georgian Revival is not mentioned in the
NRHP Inventory/Nomination document: drop it. --
doncram 08:03, 24 June 2016 (UTC)reply