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I am not convinced this person exists.
Louis Frederick of Saxe-Hildburghausen is listed as his father, but that article says he was childless. He is listed as being made a cardinal but none of the lists of cardinals created between 1741 and 1830 list his name. He is listed as an archbishop of Olomouc but
List of Roman Catholic bishops and archbishops of Olomouc does not mention him or have any gaps during his lifetime. The German Wikipedia article that text is apparently copied from is about a different person. I cannot find him mentioned in the online copies of either of the article's references. Various Google / online book searches only turn up text from this article and unrelated princes called Ludwig.
Mgp28 (
talk) 22:32, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete. No citations. Contradicts other articles that say his supposed father was childless. Probable hoax.
Celia Homeford (
talk) 08:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete No evidence of notability. And the contradiction with other articles is not really helping. Keivan.fTalk 13:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete as hoax. Article creator only made 4 mainspace edits. C679 06:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Does not meet
WP:ORGCRITE. Sources cited in the article are all primary. Searching on Google Scholar and Google Books, I was able to find mentions of the COIHS in citations and acknowledgements, but no significant independent coverage. Searching online, I was able to find some concerning, scandalous, coverage that still appears to fall short of the ORGCRITE line: two letters to the editor in The Independent (
[1],
[2]) alleging that the COIHS played a key role in covering up a child sex abuse scandal in the Irish church, and two articles in The Phoenix making the same assertion in passing (
[3],
[4]). I was able to find exactly one likely (but paywalled) example of significant coverage in an independent RS (
[5]) reporting on the same allegations, although even if we assume the absolute best of this source, we fall short of ORGCRITE's requirement of multiple such sources. I tried to look for potential merge targets on Wikipedia but didn't find anything promising. signed, Rosguilltalk 14:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete per nominator source analysis. I also tried to identify a redirect, but the organization appears independent from the Church of Ireland and I couldn't identify another option superior to deletion.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 17:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete. My own
WP:BEFORE returns the same coverage/mentions that the nominator identified in their own. Namely things like ROTM
announcements in the Irish Times and mentions in
letters to the editor in the Irish Independent. Or
this in The Phoenix. A search in RTÉ returns only a
single similar/fleeting passing mention. The only substantial coverage I can find is the
same article (titled "Historical society accused of 'rewriting' its own past" and subtitled "Church of Ireland Historical Society removes references to founder following accusations of child sexual abuse") noted by the nom. Which, on its own, doesn't establish independent notability of the org. I also can't conceive of target for a redirect. Or other
WP:ATD.
Guliolopez (
talk) 21:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete, regretfully, since my paternal grandmother was a member of the CoI. There's just
not enough sourcing.
Bearian (
talk) 15:30, 4 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I am unconvinced that the subject of this article meets the notability guidelines for academics. The article subject is a teaching professor with limited research output. Their research has not made a significant impact in their scholarly field (they seem to publish introductions for popular presses, published reviews of their other work is critical). They have not recieved a highly prestigious academic award or honor at national/internationl level. They are not an elected member of a highly selective/prestigious society. The subject does not hold a distinguished professor position or appointment at a major institution, nor have they been named chair or equivalent. The subject has not held a highest-level administrative appointment. The person appears not to have made a signifcant impact outside of academia in their academic capacity, where they are quoted in publications it is usually promotional material for one of their porjects. The subject has not been editor/EiC of a major/well-established academic journal. Other contextual clues indicate that this page exists purely as a promotional platform for the subject. There is very little activity on this page other than IP editors vandalizing the page to introduce promotional content, and then other editors removing or clarifying these edits. The creator of this page has since been banned for their promotional activities. I mean to disrespect to the subject of this article, but I struggle to see how they meet the criteria or need for inclusion on Wikipedia. There is nothing wrong with trying to boost your platform and visibility as a junior academic, but I would suggest that this is much better accomplished through a personal website and social media channels. Having a cursory glance at the department the article subject belongs to, there are many far more senior scholars among his colleagues who are not similarly represented on this site. After spending significant time trying to improve this page, I doubt that with the available material it will rise to the level of inclusion. I welcome other editors' feedback and perspectives if I have been too harsh in my judgement.
Boredintheevening (
talk) 15:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC)reply
(correcting typo: line read "I mean no disrespect", not "I mean to disrespect")
Boredintheevening (
talk) 15:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
DoczillaOhhhhhh, no! 21:20, 4 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 04:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete - Non-notable bio which only has two sentences about his ministry. The rest is about his education and family background.
— Maile (
talk) 12:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC)reply
The only independent source given, Thöle, only mentions the CWOC in passing. I can't find any source that actually covers their activities. There's no evidence that this communion is more than a loose agreement of three small like-minded denominations. Leefeniaures audiendi audiat 21:49, 24 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 22:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete While autocephalic churches in communion with a significant church are almost always notable national branches of a church located outside that church's home country, this does not appear to be the situation for the "communion" among the three churches that are the subject of this article.
[6] I would consider changing my vote if independent sources were found or the significant concepts and French sources were explained and verified.
Ben Azura (
talk) 12:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 04:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete this article should have never been created to begin with.
Catfurball (
talk) 15:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Contested prod. Prod reason states "This list is made up of mostly schools that are not notable and also there are no references it has been like this from day one that it was created". As I am conducting a procedural AfD, I am neutral on the matter. --
Lenticel(
talk) 02:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete the majority of Seventh-day Adventist schools in the Philippines are not notable and never will be. And we do not need a separate list for Seventh-day Adventist colleges and universities in the Philippines, that is why we have
List of Seventh-day Adventist colleges and universities.
Catfurball (
talk) 16:14, 23 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting. Before a rename is considered, you have to put forth a good, policy-based argument on why this article should be Kept. A rename can be discussed after an AFD if this article is Kept. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 05:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep as per the Harvard magazine article and Union Leader newspaper article already in the article, imv
Atlantic306 (
talk) 19:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete - While Harvard magazine and a single article in the Union Leader may be reliable for use in verifying facts, just those two citations together are insufficient for establishing notability. The two publications would appear to not have the circulation/audience necessary to demonstrate notability beyond a small region or special interest niche. The citations do not show that Hart and Shepard is anything close to a household name.
CapnPhantasm (
talk) 03:29, 22 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguilltalk 13:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep - anything from that period that is even being discussed today in magazine articles is surely noteworthy. An additional source: the "famous Dorothy cloak" made by Hart and Shepard is
held by the Shaker Museum, and is discussed in Beverly Gordon's 1990 research paper
"Victorian Fancy Goods: Another Reappraisal of Shaker Material Culture". A different take is provided by Antiques and the Arts (
"Smalls Bring Big Prices At Willis Henry Shaker Sale" of 4 December 2007) which notes the high prices fetched by the cloaks. I am certain there are numerous other such sources that credibly establish the importance of this brand, back in its heyday. And "Once notable, always notable".
Chiswick Chap (
talk) 15:01, 23 May 2024 (UTC)reply
None of those article provide in-depth information about the *company* (which is the topic we're looking at here), they all discuss the cloak.
HighKing++ 13:55, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Redirect to
Dorothy Durgin. An article on the "Dorothy Cloak" or the "Shaker Cloak" would appear to meet GNG as a standalone topic, but a topic on this organization/company fails GNG/
WP:NCORP and therefore a Delete is in order. A search on Google Books for "Dorothy Cloak" provides lots of suitable references.
HighKing++ 09:53, 28 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Redirect and delete, per HighKing. Fails NCORP.
JoelleJay (
talk) 22:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 23:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply