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Nominator's rationale: These (empty) categories were part of the infrastructure of
Wikipedia:Image placeholders which has been inactive/deprecated since 2009. DexDor(talk) 20:09, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
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Category:Black Women Oral History Project
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. This category is used solely to identify people interviewed by the
Black Women Oral History Project, and in my opinion qualifies as overcategorization under
WP:TRIVIALCAT. It could also be seen as unnecessary promotion for the project itself.
Brian heim composer (
talk) 15:47, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete. Having taken part in the project is a
WP:NON-DEFINING characteristic of, for example,
Dorothy Height. This might be suitable for a list. DexDor(talk) 20:22, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete This is non-defining to the people involved. It might be useful as a list, but is not useful as a category.
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Category:Bligh Cabinet
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Nominator's rationale: Someone created what was basically somebody's random set of orphan categories on state Cabinets that were in power four years ago; that they served under a particular Premier is not a defining feature and this content is much better handled by our prose articles.
The Drover's Wife (
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Category:River Downs
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The result of the discussion was:delete.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 21:04, 9 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Category has only one entry. The racetrack isn't called River Downs anymore either.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof? 09:51, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete single article doesn't aid navigation. (Rename if kept.).
RevelationDirect (
talk) 12:10, 2 September 2015 (UTC)reply
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Category:Thai Buddhist temples
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus. –
FayenaticLondon 23:14, 9 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Following
this discussion, the former
Category:Thai Buddhist temples outside of Thailand was upmerged into this category, and its other child,
Category:Buddhist temples in Thailand, was removed, since Thailand is also home to Buddhist temples of other traditions. Thus currently all members of this category are overseas Thai Buddhist temples. Renaming the category as such would make it more descriptive of its contents.
Paul_012 (
talk) 09:44, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Alternative rename to
Category:Theravada Buddhist temples per defining characteristic of the articles. Secondarily the adjective Thai is pretty confusing since it is outside Thailand.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 21:46, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Having origins related to Thailand is a distinctive and defining property of these temples, though. This would be lost if the category was merged to Category:Theravada Buddhist temples (though having it as a parent should be fine). Qualifying "Thai" with "overseas" should address the confusion issue. --
Paul_012 (
talk) 02:21, 2 September 2015 (UTC)reply
That's a bit questionable, some articles mention 'Thai', some others 'Theravada' and finally some others just 'Buddhist'. To what extent can it be established that a building links to Thailand and not to Cambodia, for instance?
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:20, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Are you looking at the right category? All articles in
Category:Thai Buddhist temples mention either Thailand or the Thai Forest Tradition (except
Hádegismóar Temple, which sources reveal is being sponsored by the Thai tourism industry). At any rate, many of these temples (including many which still lack Wikipedia articles) serve distinct roles as cultural centres of overseas Thai communities, and their association with Thailand is quite clear. --
Paul_012 (
talk) 01:36, 4 September 2015 (UTC)reply
You're actually right, I didn't read the articles well enough yesterday. Would it make things more clear if the category be renamed to
Category:Buddhist temples of the Thai Forest tradition, as I keep having problems with the combination of "overseas" (= miscellaneous countries) and "Thai" (while it is not in Thailand).
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:38, 4 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Rename to
Category:Buddhist Temples of the Thai Forest tradition. This will be much more clear and also avoid inacuracies like "overseas". I mean, would that exclude articles on temples in India and China? Technically you can get from Thailand to France by land, so is France even overseas?
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 06:10, 7 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Hmm. I thought overseas was a general term meaning relating to foreign countries, but it does appear some dictionaries do indeed give a definition of being literally across the sea. There's precedent with
Category:Overseas Vietnamese Buddhist temples though.
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Category:Council of Independent Colleges
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Delete Being a member of such a council is not defining for the colleges involved.
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Category:Commonwealth Games sports
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The result of the discussion was:delete. The IP's suggestion is a good one; however, the category only contains half a dozen articles and categories, all of which are about current Commonwealth Games sports. Someone could create a list of all sports that have ever been at the Commonwealth Games, but this category doesn't really provide much of a basis for doing so.Good Ol’factory(talk) 03:02, 9 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Listify the main article doesn't contain a list of all sports, rather, just a list of current sports. So a list is missing. Listification can create the start of a list. --
70.51.202.113 (
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Category:Ribat related names
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. These have nothing to do with one another just theoretical names.
2601:641:0:40F8:5AB:25A0:8CFA:3D55 (
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Delete I think this category takes the award for most unrealted and random set of contents. It is by shared trait of the name, although how they all share a trait is not at all clear, and it is even less clear how that would link a city in the Gambia, an organizatiojn in Morocco, a river in Spain and the other random things here.
John Pack Lambert (
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Christopher Wren buildings by location
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. Propose clarifying this unusual format. "ARCHITECT buildings" is the usual way of categorizing buildings by architect, so the parent
Category:Christopher Wren buildings is named in the usual way. But to add the city name before "buildings" reads quite awkwardly and creates unnecessary ambiguities, in my opinion. Better to use the form used by
Category:Christopher Wren churches in London.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 03:59, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Definitely support the Rename. Not wholly in favor of the proposed upmerge. Wren is so strongly identified with London that there's value to a WP user in finding Wren's buildings outside the capital, and they'll be lost otherwise. I would support upmerging Oxford and Cambridge to
Category:Christopher Wren buildings outside London. This cat could contain the two from Oxford and three from Cambridge plus four others from around England currently in
Category:Christopher Wren buildings. As for
Wren Building, that's probably out of place in this tree.
Rupert Clayton (
talk) 19:44, 4 September 2015 (UTC)reply
I was going to suggest the list article, but there isn't one. (There's only
List of Christopher Wren churches in London not a complete listing of his buildings.) I still think the article space would be a better place to quickly see where his buildings are though.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 04:17, 6 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Upmerge -- There is not enough content to need any splits, other than the Wren churches in London, where the present subcat should be kept.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 14:20, 12 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Partial upmerge. No need for the Oxbridge categories, but London with eleven buildings and a subcategory could stand to be kept. But of course, we need to rename the category per nom; it looks like these are buildings in whatever location that were designed by someone called Christopher Wren London.
Nyttend (
talk) 23:16, 12 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Upmerge Cambridge and Oxford, rename London, per Nyttend and Rupert. —
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kaw), 08:20, 18 September 2015 (UTC)reply
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Rastafari categories
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The result of the discussion was:bothRelistedat
2015 SEP 15 CFD.
Two related discussions have been relisted here and grouped together for convenience.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 03:47, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Main article moved from
Rastafari Movement to
Rastafari through discussion, but basically that title and other previous titles (like Rastafarian and Rastafarianism) are reductive titles created by non-adherents. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 21:42, 3 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Good Ol’factory(talk) 03:47, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Similar to the above. This is complicated by the fact that the Religion
Rastafari is also the term for the adherents in the singular or plural form. The term Rastafarian is considered reductive and offensive. My inclination is
Category:Rastafari practitioners ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 21:42, 3 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Good Ol’factory(talk) 03:47, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
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Category:Members of National Panhellenic Conference sororities
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Nominator's rationale: Non-defining characteristic of college sorority/fraternity membership per multiple past CfDs resulting in deletion.
Dirtlawyer1 (
talk) 03:12, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom; trivial and per precedent.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 07:10, 4 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete Being a member of a soroity is non-defining.
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Category:Certified singles
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The result of the discussion was:administrative close. It looks like this discussion was started mainly to get advice on how to proceed, and the nominator has
commenced nominations to delete subcategories, so I'm assuming this can be closed now.Good Ol’factory(talk) 00:58, 18 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Ok, I'm not sure the right way to do this but this is basically a request to delete every subcategory and sub-subcategory here. The discussions for
Australia single certifications and
this discussion shows there is support that these designatations are
WP:NON-DEFINING characteristics. However,
this discussion was against the Canadian industry due to the failure to list every one of hundred of subcategories (and further subcategories) for all countries as an example of bias (same argument I received
here). It seems like there's agreement that they should be deleted but anger that not listing them all (which no one really wants to do since you're talking hundreds and hundreds of categories which could derail any singular discussion). But then again, may that's the way to go.
Ricky81682 (
talk) 00:07, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Comment: it would be better practice to draw attention by nominating at least the next layer and some important members of the layer below that. Also, what about the sibling
Category:Certified albums? –
FayenaticLondon 13:30, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Maybe. Like I said, I can't figure out which way to go. The last discussion was just so different than how it's usually done here. I want to figure out a way to deal with singles before the albums one as the previous discussions were all on single certifications I think. - -
Ricky81682 (
talk) 20:17, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
As said in the previous discussion it would be a good move to add the US subcategories in the nomination, in order to get a sufficiently large audience involved in the discussion.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:24, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Comment I nominated the bulk of all
Albums by certification three years ago. Consensus was leaning to delete then, although many wanted some sort of alternative, so the result was no consensus. I believe there is an increasing agreement that this particular categorization scheme is not defining to the individual albums or songs, with the reasoning being similar to that of
WP:OC#AWARD for award recipients. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:30, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
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