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The result was delete. Tone 15:52, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Yuri Elkaim
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This is spam for an businessman that masquerades as a sports bio. The sources are a profile by an entrepreneur.com contributor and the subject's own website. Per entrepreneur.com: Opinions expressed by Entrepreneur contributors are their own. In other words, the magazine exercised no editorial control over the content. It is neither independent nor reliable. With regards to his notability as a soccer player: a) Elkaim also played as an amateur for the Toronto Lynx. WP:NFOOTBALL says players are presumed notable if they play in fully professional leagues. Presumed notable means that it is likely that sources exist. I'm challenging that rebuttable presumption. There are no independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage of the subject (either as a soccer player) or a businessman. Vexations ( talk) 14:16, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Vexations ( talk) 14:16, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 14:17, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Keep - He made three appearances and zero goals for Toronto Lynx in the fully pro USL First Division which is in the list of fully pro leagues thus meets WP:NFOOTBALL. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 18:54, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Das osmnezz, He is presumably notable per WP:NFOOTBALL IF you're right about playing in a fully pro league despite playing as an amateur. Since he played for the Toronto Lynx as an amateur in 2001, four years before the USL First Division was established, he does not meet WP:NFOOTBALL.But I think you omit to address a point I raise. What I really do is challenge the presumable part. The assumption of notability is not supported by extant sources. No sources exist that make him notable. That's a rebuttal, the presumption of notability now no longer stands. Vexations ( talk) 19:30, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 16:30, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete - comprehensively fails GNG, which far surpasses scraping by on NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 19:14, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - Article about soccer player who made a total of 3 appearances in the A League during his entire career. There is a presumption of notability in WP:NFOOTBALL but the article comprehensively fails WP:GNG (all online coverage of his soccer career is trivial, e.g., [1]) and there is a longstanding consensus that the presumption is invalid in these cases. Perhaps the article can meet the GNG through coverage of his business accomplishments, but I only found the one Entrepreneur article which isn't enough in my view to satisfy the significant coverage requirement. Jogurney ( talk) 19:18, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete No effective referencing. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep Talk 12:21, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - clear GNG fail Spiderone 17:18, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
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