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After 14 years since the first nomination for deletion the band is still non notable as they do not satisfy
WP:MUSICBIO & have not been discussed with in-depth significant coverage in secondary reliable sources hence invariably falling short of
WP:GNG as well. A
before which I painstakingly conducted on showed me their music on Spotify & Amazon.
Celestina007 (
talk) 15:20, 17 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - I'm not sure what I can add as far as arguments go. As stated above, the group simply doesn't appear to be notable. That's it.
CoffeeWithMarkets (
talk) 15:26, 17 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. The sources cited in the article do not establish the band as a notable group. A Google search of them doesn't show them being discussed in reliable sources.
Versace1608Wanna Talk? 17:45, 18 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep as they have a staff written biography in AllMusic and an album review in Billboard magazine, both sources already in the article. An album review in such a notable magazine as Billboard is a strong indicator that there is more coverage available, imv
Atlantic306 (
talk) 23:39, 22 April 2020 (UTC)reply
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Atlantic306: You can't continue to used say "there is more coverage available" in AFD discussions. This particular statement of yours doesn't hold any weight because you cannot back it up with reliable sources. In my view, it is wrong to speculate without having any solid evidence.
Versace1608Wanna Talk? 07:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I said there is a strong indicator, and please see
WP:ADHOM. Continuing to vote delete without giving evidence of your source searches is also discouraged and should be given less weight,
Atlantic306 (
talk) 18:26, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
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Atlantic306:. Are you able to provide the more coverage that is available? If so I'd recommend adding to the article per
WP:HEYMr. Apollo (
talk to me bebe) 14:51, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
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Apollo825: Contrary to what you've said, the Billboard review is about the band's single "This Game" and not about Demolition City. The latter of body of work is only mentioned ina the review. A short bio in All Music and one short review about one of the band's songs are not enough to warrant stand-alone inclusion. As a matter of fact, the Billboard review is not enough to create a separate article about "This Game". For crying out loud, if this band was notable, their notability should not be in question. They've released seven studio albums, two remix albums and three compilation albums and none of them were discussed in reliable sources.
Versace1608Wanna Talk? 07:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment -@
Versace1608, I don’t think you or anyone for that matter should take
Apollo825’s !vote in any AFD too seriously as he has gone on a
revenge spree & !voting the exact opposite of any entry I make in an any AFD especially the ones I created as can be seen on this particular one,
here, &
here. The reason is purely revenge due to
this AFD. His reply was a sarcastic one as can be seen
here. At this point he may
houding me unconsciously as he is supposed to be brand new editor as he only registerd his account less than 24 hours ago and perhaps is oblivious of
stalking. Ironically from his general comments he implies the he is an “oldie” since he had operated two accounts in the past but forgot their passwords. Very strange indeed to claim to be around here for a while & not know
canvassing is a big no no as he was observed doing so few hours ago
here &
here. Anyways there’s something generally wrong with the !voting in this other
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frenzo Harami in which a different editor suspected sock-puppetry at work. It may not be necessarily sockpuppetry but my gut feeling tells me this is meat.
Celestina007 (
talk) 10:36, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I assure you, I am not on a revenge spree and I have no bad intentions to you @
Celestina007. I am just looking at deletion reviews and only participating in those that I feel has substantial information that meets the wiki guidelines to be kept. Don't forget the fundamental principle of Wikipedia is to assume good faith (
WP:GF). In all honestly I didn't know it was you who specifically has requested these articles for deletion and I must remind you that
WP:ZEALOUS goes against Wikipedia's assume good faith principle. This is not a
WAR ZONE and I am not here to seek "revenge" on you (and what might I be seeking revenge on you for? You haven't done anything to me).
Mr. Apollo (
talk to me bebe) 12:21, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
reply
Also, I am extremely offended. I am nobody's puppet, meat or sock. It is bold of you assume this just because I don't agree with your viewpoints even though I have been a Wikipedian since 2014.
Mr. Apollo (
talk to me bebe)
Comment — Strinking out all
Apollo825’s comment & !vote as they are a confirmed sock puppet of
TwinTurbo.~~
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Sulfurboy (
talk) 15:39, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
KEEP The subject specific guideline for this is
Wikipedia:Notability (music). "Has released two or more albums on a major record label" seems to have been met, as was mentioned in the previous AFD. Also they pass the general notability guidelines as Atlantic306 said from the "staff written biography in AllMusic and an album review in Billboard magazine".
DreamFocus 19:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep: In addition to the Billboard review, I found a
2012 newspaper article from the Albuquerque Journal. I've added it to the article. —
Toughpigs (
talk) 19:42, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep per above.
Daask (
talk) 12:59, 1 May 2020 (UTC)reply
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