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The result was keep. MBisanztalk 00:28, 6 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Contested PROD. Fails
WP:FOOTBALL The creator created the article for a sunday league team, The citations are suspect and I found no real information in a google search.
Govvy (
talk) 18:51, 29 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete - Subject does not meet general notability requirements and lacks coverage in reliable sources.
Meatsgains (
talk) 19:09, 29 August 2016 (UTC)reply
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GiantSnowman 20:34, 29 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete - no evidence of notability.
GiantSnowman 20:35, 29 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep. I've restored to the article a couple of sources that were removed by the nominator, one of which was a reference to the history page of the Devon County FA, and added another. They confirm that the first incarnation of the club was a pioneer of football in the West Country and was one of the eight founding members of the Devon FA. Convention for English football club notability is entry into a national cup competition: reliable source FCHD present in the article confirms that the second incarnation of the club entered the FA Cup on multiple occasions. Nominator's statement that the creator "created the article for a sunday league team" is mistaken, as can be seen from the page history:
this, from July 2005 is the first substantial version of the page, and the first attempt to introduce the Sunday League team came
nearly three years later. cheers,
Struway2 (
talk) 21:19, 29 August 2016 (UTC)reply
ReplyHow can they be founded in 1886? That's when Argyle was founded! That's the first problem with the first citation you restored. Yes, United played against Argyle according to citation2, but if a new incarnation in 1944 is when they played in the FA Cup 3 times to 1950. Then after that? There will continue to be no article after a few basic facts. How can this be wiki content? How is that Notable? It seems to be there is no notability for the article.
Govvy (
talk) 22:49, 29 August 2016 (UTC)reply
You've lost me, I'm afraid. The article says United existed by 1886, because that's when they played Argyle in that club's first home match. It doesn't say it was founded in 1886, but even if it had, there's no reason why two clubs can't have been founded in the same year? As to notable content: most articles about football clubs start as a stub with just about enough content to confirm the club's notability. They get expanded when someone cares enough to do some research and expand them. cheers,
Struway2 (
talk) 08:01, 30 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep Club meets our generally accepted notability criteria of having played in a national cup (
three entries to the FA Cup).
Number57 22:16, 29 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep - has played in a national competition
Spiderone 07:44, 30 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep - Meets
WP:FOOTYN, club has played multiple times in a national cup competition, needs expanding not deleting.
Fenix down (
talk) 10:48, 30 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep Per argument put forward by Struway. Article passes
WP:FOOTYN as the club has played in a national competition.
Mattythewhite (
talk) 11:58, 30 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep: As already mentioned they appeared in the FA Cup on multiple occasions. I've also updated the article to show they were playing matches at least as far back as 1877, so they were clearly pioneers of the sport in the area. — GasHeadSteve[TALK] 21:54, 30 August 2016 (UTC)reply
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