- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. No argument was put forward for keeping which explained why the tour was notable per WP:NTOUR. This may be recreated if more independent secondary source material about the topic becomes available from which a non-promotional, encyclopedic article can be written. Anyone wishing to work on this may ping me for a userfied copy of the article. – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 21:52, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
PSA Tour
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Pure promotion with dates of tour for Fifth Harmony. Non-compliant with WP:NOT Atsme 📞 📧 14:01, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
- Keep as the tour looks notable Flow 234 (Nina) talk 16:16, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 07:10, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 07:10, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ ( talk) 09:01, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Chile-related deletion discussions. ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ ( talk) 09:01, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 03:02, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 03:02, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- Co,ment "looks notable" is not really a valid argument. But I have no opinion on the article, which is out of my field. DGG ( talk ) 01:07, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete this is simply advertising on Wikipedia. This is a promotional announcement, like a TV ad. Same with the references. Fails WP:NOTADVERTISING. -- Steve Quinn ( talk) 02:27, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- Also, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information - fails WP:IINFO Steve Quinn ( talk) 02:35, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep: Most large artists have dedicated pages for their large tours. I don't see what makes this page different than the others, such as Dangerous Woman Tour or Purpose World Tour. Rufusmi ( talk) 01:28, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- When did the encyclopedia become StubHub, Live Nation or Ticket Master? What makes a list of upcoming tour dates encyclopedic? The article represents exactly what WP:NOT tells us not to include. I also reviewed WP:NTOUR to make sure I didn't miss anything, and saw no mention that it was ok to list dates for upcoming tours, only that notable tours must provide adequate information like revenue figures, etc. and be sourced to RS to substantiate notability of the tour - that tells us the tour must have already taken place. If artists have been given the ok to use the encyclopedia to promote upcoming tours, where is the consensus for that or the AfDs that have set such a precedent? Atsme 📞 📧 01:57, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 18:12, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 18:12, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete: In truth, very few tours are notable, even by established bands, and there is nothing in the article to suggest that this tour is notable. Robman94 ( talk) 22:42, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- comment: NotAdvertising is not a reason for deletion, and doesn't really concern deletion per se, it is about article content. L3X1 (distænt write) 00:16, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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L3X1, please read
WP:G11, Unambiguous advertising or promotion.
Atsme
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- The difference between NotAdvertising and G11 is how advert-y the offending piece is. Hopefully the piece to be G11d would fail the GNG as well. L3X1 (distænt write) 01:41, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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L3X1, please read
WP:G11, Unambiguous advertising or promotion.
Atsme
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📧 01:22, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as failing notability guidelines plus WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. Half the dates do not even have an artist, how can we predict this will happen? Does anyone think anyone will type in this in a searchbox after it's over? Ifnord ( talk) 17:43, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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