- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Redirect to List of Cardiff City F.C. players (1–24 appearances). As User:GiantSnowman says, a fair compromise. To be clear, the determination here is that there is a consensus that there should not be an article on this subject due to minimal notability and sourcing, but neither is there a consensus that this subject should be wiped out of the encyclopedia entirely. I have merged his information into a footnote. bd2412 T 02:22, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Mirko Bolesan
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Article about semi-pro footballer who made a single substitute's appearance (as an unpaid trialist) for a club in a fully-pro league. Theoretically, someone could read WP:NFOOTBALL as covering such an article (I don't think it should when the player is a trialist), but the article comprehensively fails WP:GNG (a few database entries, a note about his youth coaching in Italy, a blurb on a former employer's website, and an entry in the book cited in the article leave us far short of significant coverage). There is substantial precedent for deleting similar articles; e.g., Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phakamani Mngadi. Jogurney ( talk) 20:48, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:57, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:57, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:57, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep The English leagues are very well documented to the point anyone who has made an appearance is in some print encyclopaedia somewhere, and it appears Mr. Bolesan has at least some notability from his "Moonlight Graham"-style appearance for Cardiff City, including having a blog named after him, and whose appearance continues to be discussed in passing. It will always be a stub, but I don't really see any reason why we should delete a properly sourced stub, as opposed to Mngadi, who we could barely verify. SportingFlyer T· C 23:26, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 09:19, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Cardiff City F.C. players (1–24 appearances) . A tough one, as both Jogurney and SF make good points. I think a redirect is a fair compromise. Giant Snowman 09:23, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- I didn't know that page existed and that seems a sensible redirect target – but if we do redirect, I hope someone can merge the information on the page into a note for the player. Still support keeping over redirecting, though. SportingFlyer T· C 18:07, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Per WP:NFOOTY. Was he really an unpaid triallist? Soccerbase has him listed as being at Cardiff for seven months. Also given this was the pre-internet era (at least in terms of it being mainstream), it's not surprising that there is not much online about him. I would imagine there would have been some coverage about him in the printed press back then if anyone has access to any relevant databases. Number 5 7 11:17, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete – barely scraping by NFOOTY, without any GNG sources, means an article should be deleted under our policies. The only reason I'm not in favor of a redirect is because List of Cardiff City F.C. players (1–24 appearances) should be renamed to List of notable Cardiff City F.C. players, and this player is not notable. – Leviv ich 18:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete since subject fails WP:NFOOTBALL. One appearance as a substitute? As it happens, I'm interested in football history, especially the lower and out-of-the-way leagues. But I'll not be looking into Wikipedia for this! Wikipedia is not a depository of sport history. The subject, by Wikipedia's standards, is not notable enough for an article, even of stub size. - The Gnome ( talk) 05:34, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. NFOOTY is absurd. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:31, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
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