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There are no reliable sources to prove that those players played in a fully professional league. (Their clubs do play in the professional I-League, but there are no evidence that they themselves played a single game). The
wp:NFOOTY defines only players who have played in a fully professional league as notable. Those persons also fail
wp:GNG as there are no reliable sources with significant coverage.
Vanjagenije (
talk) 12:33, 30 December 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep Both: Both teams involved in this domestic cup competition were fully-professional. If both teams in a competitive cup game are fully-professional then they are considered notable. --
ArsenalFan700 (
talk) 12:37, 30 December 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment: No, actually, that is not what the
WP:NFOOTY says. That guideline says that notable players are those who "have played [...] in a fully professional league", not those who "have played in a team that plays in a fully professional league". Their teams do play in a professional league, but the question is: have those players ever played in a fully professional league?
Vanjagenije (
talk) 12:43, 30 December 2014 (UTC)reply
You can go bring this up at the talk page of
WP:FOOTBALL but the general consensus is that players who play in official cup competitions in which both the teams come from leagues deemed as fully-professional are notable. If you would like some examples then see
Stefan O'Connor or
Isaac Hayden. These players have never played in the league but have represented Arsenal in cup competitions. --
ArsenalFan700 (
talk) 12:50, 30 December 2014 (UTC)reply
Those players have played international matches for their national team. They are notable under different criteria.
Vanjagenije (
talk) 13:10, 30 December 2014 (UTC)reply
At youth level, that does not make them notable. Only senior international caps grants notability in itself. They are notable for their cup appearances with Arsenal. In that case, Joseph Lalfakzuala, Pawan Kumar, and Nim Dorjee Tamang are notable as they have represented India at the youth levels. Again, take this up with at the talk page of
WP:FOOTBALL and that will be the consensus that cup competitions like these in which both teams are fully-professional have notable players. --
ArsenalFan700 (
talk) 13:18, 30 December 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep - long-held consensus at
WP:FOOTBALL, as well as
WP:COMMONSENSE, would tell you that playing in a competitive Cup game between two
teams from fully-professional leagues is just as notable as playing in a competitive League game between two teams from fully-professional leagues. Ergo, these players meet
WP:NFOOTBALL.
GiantSnowman 13:35, 30 December 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep - New I-League season starts in two weeks. And when Royal Wahingdoh plays their first game, a lot of these players would have fulfuilled
WP:NFOOTY. So for my money, no need to delete them. And as argued above, Federation Cup is a well-known tournament itself.
Coderzombie (
talk) 13:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep - All of them have played competitive fixtures between two
fully-pro-league clubs. That this confers notability as a common sense extension of
WP:NSPORT is a long standing consensus. Though I feel I should point out that future appearances, as suggested above, donot in fact contribute to notability.
Sir Sputnik (
talk) 15:56, 30 December 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep all - Per GiantSnowman's argument.
IJA (
talk) 16:27, 3 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep - per GS, what is important is that they have splayed in a competitive match in a national / international competition between two
FPL teams, not that that match took place within the same FPL.
Fenix down (
talk) 10:18, 5 January 2015 (UTC)reply
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