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Keep Meets
WP:NFOOTY by playing 21 games in the Ekstraklasa and Liga I. Nominator should have understood the criteria before nominating. Just because he currently isn't notable on the Polish Wiki (which bases notability on playing x number of games in leagues on the IFFHS's Best League list) doesn't mean he isn't notable on the English Wiki.
Dougal18 (
talk) 11:44, 6 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment "Broken" is a guideline that has arbitrary numbers of games played in leagues on arbitrary cutoffs of the IFFHS Best League list.
Dougal18 (
talk) 16:04, 6 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Actually... so what? NFOOTY is just a supplementary suggestion. He fails NBIO and GNG. It's time to clean up such one liners sport spam entries. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 01:09, 7 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete While the NSPORT criteria may be met, this is a player would have a career that should be readily searchable on the Internet (Poland is well-connected), and I have come up with nothing beyond the fact they are signed onto a team. This means that the presumption of notability granted by NSPORT/NFOOTY (playing on a professional team) did not yield additional sources, and thus has failed, per
WP:N. We need secondary and third-party sources to show this person should have a standalone article beyond just assertion of NFOOTY here. --
Masem (
t) 14:52, 6 August 2020 (UTC)reply
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WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions.
GiantSnowman 14:25, 7 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep - clearly meets NFOOTBALL, young player at start of his career, there are sources out there.
GiantSnowman 14:27, 7 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep passes
WP:NFOOTY subject is 21 years old and activly playing see little point in deleting it.
Pharaoh of the Wizards (
talk) 15:41, 7 August 2020 (UTC)reply
As a caution, of the first link, maybe only 2 of those articles are actually usable as they provide significant coverage of the person, the others are just mentioning the name in passing which doesn't work for sourcing purposes. But now that these are identified, they need to be added to the article. --
Masem (
t) 13:33, 13 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep, per above comments, this guy passes both NFOOTY and GNG.
Devonian Wombat (
talk) 12:12, 8 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep Meets both NFOOTY and GNG.
Smartyllama (
talk) 13:08, 10 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete if he is a young player at the start of his career who has done nothing of note, we should hold off on creating an article until he actually does something of note.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 19:44, 10 August 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Johnpacklambert: do you ever actually look at any of the articles you vote on, read anyone else's arguments or conduct
WP:BEFORE? It appears to me that you vote delete on every article regardless of the notability guidelines.
Microwave Anarchist (
talk) 15:59, 11 August 2020 (UTC)reply
That is absolutely not true. I vote to keep when it is warranted, and in this case keeping is not warranted. Wikipedia is not meant to be an exhaustive directory. People are supposed to only be included when they have actually done things to gain notability, not when they have just barely started a career.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 16:13, 11 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Yes, and this article passes both the relevant notability guidelines (
WP:FOOTY and
WP:GNG). He has played in the top tier of Polish football and has recieved significant coverage from reliable secondary sources as a result.
Microwave Anarchist (
talk) 16:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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