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Delete like I said at
WT:FOOTY, he doesn't pass
WP:NFOOTY as he's played international
futsal not (association) football. And doesn't look to pass
WP:GNG either.
Joseph2302 (
talk) 13:43, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Speedy delete per nom. Google search brings up no meaningful results. No debate here.
Davidlofgren1996 (
talk) 13:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
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GiantSnowman 15:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL.
GiantSnowman 15:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete I was trying to work this article out earlier, unfortunately I couldn't see GNG for the English wikipedia.
Govvy (
talk) 16:00, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep Michael Petros is a professional futsal player and coach in Iran. He has previously been a member of the Iranian national futsal team. So this person is famous. Sufficient sources in Persian are also mentioned for the article. Don't delete articles for no apparent reason because it will reduce the credibility of Wikipedia and discourage editors!
pournia (
talk) 18:04, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment It maybe notable on the Farsi wikipedia, but it doesn't seem to be on English.
Govvy (
talk) 18:31, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment@
Govvy: I don't think that's how it works – per
WP:GNG: "Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language."
Macosal (
talk) 13:16, 9 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Has anyone who has said this fails
WP:GNG actually done any source analysis on the Farsi language references or bothered to do a before search in Farsi? The articles I saw were a bit short or were game coverage but if there's other similar coverage then he's clearly been covered significantly in the role.
SportingFlyerT·C 22:58, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
SportingFlyer I assume what they meant was that the notability requirements will be different (probably lower) on Farsi Wikipedia, so it may be notable there but not on English Wikipedia. That was my interpretation of their comment.
Joseph2302 (
talk) 14:46, 9 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I have, and they are all trivial mentions. There aren't enough non-trivial mentions in reliable sources for him to pass GNG, in my opinion.
Nehme1499 (
talk) 23:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Thank you. There were a couple references which I thought were more than trivial, but I'm not going to fight too hard for it - just noting there are seven references in the article, and that we don't always do a great job of evaluating these types of articles.
SportingFlyerT·C 23:43, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Of the 7 sources provided in the article, only one seems to be non-trivial. But even then, it's just an interview where he speaks about the national team and the futsal goalkeepers in Iran. Only one question is borderline, where he states where and when he was born, and where he studied (a couple of sentences). It's clear that Petros is an important figure in Iranian futsal, but I don't think that he's notable enough to be included on Wikipedia.
Nehme1499 (
talk) 23:54, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
As a player, Petros has a history of winning the Iranian Futsal Premier League. Iran Futsal Super League is one of the five most prestigious futsal leagues in the world.
pournia (
talk) 11:33, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
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