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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 04:40, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

List of electric cars currently available

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This list is very out of date and seems to duplicate a lot of content on other lists. I can’t see a reason for this separate list to exist. Cardiffbear88 ( talk) 18:51, 7 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Cardiffbear88 ( talk) 18:51, 7 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. Cardiffbear88 ( talk) 18:51, 7 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Cardiffbear88 ( talk) 18:51, 7 March 2020 (UTC) reply

• Weak keep, delete List of production battery electric vehicles (table) instead. List of production battery electric vehicles is more comprehensive but having details in a table is nice. Restructuring the page by status like List of modern production plug-in electric vehicles is preferable. However with the explosion of models in the next few years, particularly with wide variation in availability and stats from country to country, this can certainly be too unwieldy to be worth keeping in one page. Or are there other pages this duplicates that restructuring into would be better? Reywas92 ^Talk 19:07, 7 March 2020 (UTC) reply
• delete because Wikipedia is not freaking Consumer Reports. Or Road and Track or Motor Trend or anyone else that does car reviews. I'm against "current" articles anyway since they have to be babysat to keep them up-to-date, but the level of detail here is inappropriate. Mangoe ( talk) 03:27, 9 March 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep - Per WP:LISTN. However, we may wish to consider a name change, because the name implies that the list needs to be constantly checked and updated. I support Reywas92's alternative suggestions. Behindthekeys ( talk) 04:24, 14 March 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete current article, but support split and rename per Reywas. Night fury 11:48, 18 March 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete Essential content can be retrieved through wiki mirror sites or WP:REFUND, but I don't see any reason for this article. Shivkarandholiya12 ( talk) 05:51, 24 March 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep. I agree that it should be revised to drop "currently available" from its name and self-description, but obviously a list of electric cars is a notable topic. And it can link to any current Consumer Reports-type round-ups/reviews about the currently current ones. In general for Wikipedia it makes sense for list-articles to include current and former examples of a notable kind of thing, and it is aggravating when anyone tries to enforce a "current-only" type rule, which also makes the topic less encyclopedic. Fix by editing, not a matter for AFD. Also the other tabulations/lists can be merged, probably, but that is also for editors' discussion and/or bold editing elsewhere. -- Doncram ( talk) 23:29, 27 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • The problem is, there are already lists of electric cars such as List of modern production plug-in electric vehicles and List of production battery electric vehicles, both of which duplicate this content. I can’t see how this list could be expanded and remain beneficial. Cardiffbear88 ( talk) 23:59, 27 March 2020 (UTC) reply
    • I dunno, possibly AFD would be valid to address a new duplicative article (although I would still think that deletion would not be appropriate, rather a merger would). But this is not a new article, it was created in 2009 in this version. Editors willing to actually look at the purportedly duplicative articles should do so, and seriously try to figure out what their differnces are, and make merger proposal(s). This is not appropriate for AFD. wp:AFDISNOTFORCLEANUP, including that it is not for serious editing discussion. AFD is just the wrong forum, sorry, and this AFD seems really non-productive to me, just a fishing expedition or question-raising exercise with no prospect of actually accomplishing anything. "I can’t see a reason for this separate list to exist" indeed, well, that is too bad, it would take some effort to sort it out better. "I can’t see how this list could be expanded and remain beneficial", well then you are not the one to do the editing or participate in Talk page discussion about what merging or other editing is appropriate. I suppose AFD is mainly for simple decisions where actually deleting something is a plausible outcome, not present here. There is no valid justification stated anywhere here for outright deletion, at all. It is completely 100% obvious that the topic is fine/good/appropriate for wikipedia, of course Wikipedia can have a list of electric car models, there is no question whether sources exist. -- Doncram ( talk) 11:19, 28 March 2020 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.