Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_UEFA_Champions_League_hat-tricks References

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The result was Snow Keep. ( non-admin closure) – Davey2010^Talk 23:53, 24 September 2015 (UTC) reply

List of UEFA Champions League hat-tricks

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Note that it is a relisting after it was requested that articles were re-bundled from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Japan national football team hat-tricks.

A hat-trick is a semi-common occurrence in football which while notable in the context of regular news reporting, is not an outstanding achievement in and of itself. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information - lists need to have some justification to their existence beyond the collection of statistics. Notable hat-tricks will be described in player, team or where relevant match articles. Even though the Champions League is the most prestigious club football tournament in the world, hat-tricks are still not that notable in it. As well as season articles, we have List of European Cup and UEFA Champions League top scorers and List of European Cup and UEFA Champions League top scorers. This topic comfortably documented already, ratehr than this slightly arbitrary repackaging.

It's important to note that, by and large, lists such as this do not exist outside of Wikipedia: they have been collated together from football results databases. This is evidence, I think, of the indiscriminate and unnecessary nature of these pages, which also makes them border on being original research. A list of hat-tricks in these tournaments is simply unnecessary and not notable. Super Nintendo Chalmers ( talk) 08:51, 18 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Please also note the following related discussions:

Super Nintendo Chalmers ( talk) 08:53, 18 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Keep, per my comments on your other nominations. Jmorrison230582 ( talk) 09:20, 18 September 2015 (UTC) reply
Note, there is a discussion about this issue at WP:FOOTY. The nominating user has relisted all of these articles without first obtaining any consensus that these articles should be deleted. Jmorrison230582 ( talk) 09:27, 18 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Isn't that the point of a deletion discussion? Super Nintendo Chalmers ( talk) 10:29, 18 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:57, 18 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:57, 18 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:03, 18 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:04, 18 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Keep Notable lists of notable topics, per the previous AfD and all the ones directly beneath this one. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 18:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC) reply
Keep - there seems to be consensus here that lists of hat-tricks in top-level continental competitions are notable. Giant Snowman 16:22, 20 September 2015 (UTC) reply
Keep Per GiantSnowman .The list is clearly notable Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 22:50, 20 September 2015 (UTC) reply
Strong keep This list is not an indiscriminate collection of information, as it is a list of hattricks made during UEFA Champions League matches. See WP:DISCRIMINATE for an essay on what ‘indiscriminate’ means. Also, the nomination fails to mention why exactly this list is not notable. I believe that, given the fact hattricks are often mentioned in news reports, this list is very notable. — 37 ^(talk) 14:15, 21 September 2015 (UTC) reply
Keep This seems like a ridiculous nomination. Hat-tricks are usually notable events, especially in professional leagues. Often when one occurs, reference is made to previous records (i.e. last hat-trick by that player / team / against that opposition, etc.). That in itself suggests maintaining an article with the hat-trick records in a league has encyclopedic value. -- R45 ^talk! 15:58, 22 September 2015 (UTC) reply
Keep This nomination is absurd. Very notable. We have articles for league hat-tricks so we should certainly have one for Champions League.-- Shreerajtheauthor ( talk) 23:39, 23 September 2015 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.