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The result was keep. I'm not sure why this discussion kept being relisted as there is a clear consensus to Keep this article. A move discussion can occur on the article talk page. LizRead!Talk! 01:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)reply
WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of
WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to the most ardent NFL fans. Fails
WP:LISTN. Additionally
WP:NOTDATABASE and
WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per
WP:RS besides those unsourced; besides being minimal, none of the two are extant, not helping this list to assert notability.
SpacedFarmer (
talk) 17:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete This would have to have been from a while ago, so sources could exist on newspapers.com. However, this article stands as
WP:LISTCRUFT and mainly consists of
WP:OR.
Conyo14 (
talk) 17:36, 16 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. I have agreed with the previous AfDs directed at lists of broadcasters of various college bowl games and conference championship games, but there is room in the encyclopedia for a list when it is about the biggest game of the year. In recent history, that's the Super Bowl, and nobody has questioned the notability of
List of Super Bowl broadcasters. The Super Bowl is not only the pinnacle of careers on the field but also in the broadcast booth. The best of the best are tabbed to broadcast the Super Bowl, and a list of its broadcasters serves a valid purpose as a navigational list. In the pre-Super Bowl era, the NFC Championship Game was the pinnacle, and the same rationale applies.
Cbl62 (
talk) 08:32, 17 May 2024 (UTC).reply
This is not the Super Bowl though. I'd be willing to change my !vote if sources are found regarding these specific game(s)' broadcasting crews.
Conyo14 (
talk) 16:17, 17 May 2024 (UTC)reply
The NFL Championship Game was the top championship game in pro football during its time. The Super Bowl is that today.
Cbl62 (
talk) 16:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep, per Cbl62, being what was at the time the biggest American football game of the year.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 14:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)reply
We can all agree with that. This is not intended to be a case of
WP:IDONTLIKEIT but I wish people stop using "the biggest sporting event of the year" as an excuse to keep.
SpacedFarmer (
talk) 07:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)reply
@
SpacedFarmer: You wish people would stop referencing the fact that a list is based on a notable event, and the notability of said event, as a reason/relevant point when voting to keep something? That's a silly concept and definitely not an "excuse".
Hey man im josh (
talk) 16:05, 23 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: Reliable sources discussing the broadcasters for this game as a group seemingly do not exist, and as such, this article fails to meet
WP:LISTN. Notability is
WP:NOTINHERETED.
Let'srun (
talk) 19:40, 21 May 2024 (UTC)reply
A list can serve valid navigational purpose and not have sources discussing all entries as a group. In any event, here (
link) is a piece by the
Pro Football Researchers Association that does exactly what you ask.
Cbl62 (
talk) 21:14, 21 May 2024 (UTC)reply
That is a good start, but I'd need to see at least one more source like that before I'd be inclined to switch my vote.
Let'srun (
talk) 02:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Again, this functions as a navigational list such that we don't need sources dealing with all entries as a group (even though such a source has been found). This was the top pro football game in the world in the years prior to the Super Bowl (where nobody questions the validity of the
List of Super Bowl broadcasters) and has equal historical value.
Cbl62 (
talk) 10:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
DoczillaOhhhhhh, no! 04:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment I think the problem with this article is that it only gives a list format of who did play-by-play, color commentating, and also on-field reporting. The notes section is actually much more reliable as a
History of the NFL championship broadcasts article startup than maintaining it as a list. However, with only one good source from Cbl62, it doesn't seem like this article maintains
WP:LISTN. Saying, "it was the biggest event of the time, surely sources exist...", please provide more and I will change my !vote.
Conyo14 (
talk) 07:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguilltalk 17:29, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep but move to
History of the NFL championship broadcasts, per
Conyo14, with the footnote material about the various quirks of the broadcasts being moved to the body of the article ahead of the list, and the list being made a lesser section of the article.
BD2412T 14:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Keep and move? Or delete? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
CycloneYoristalk! 05:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep and move per BD2412. My previous rationale still applies, this does not meet the
WP:LISTN but can meet the GNG though a rewrite.
Let'srun (
talk) 20:52, 10 June 2024 (UTC)reply
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