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A hat-trick is a semi-common occurrence in football which while notable in the context of regular news reporting, is not an outstanding achievement in and of itself.
Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information - lists need to have some justification to their existence beyond the collection of statistics. Notable hat-tricks will be described in player, team or where relevant match articles. Though both the Confederations Cup and Copa America are infrequent and important tournaments, we already comfortably document the goals, statistics and events of these competitions - we have articles like
Copa América records and statistics and
FIFA Confederations Cup records. The hat-trick lists simply repackage goals that are listed elsewhere on Wikipedia, in a slightly arbitrary way.
It's important to note that, by and large, these lists do not exist outside of Wikipedia: they have been collated together from football results databases. This is evidence, I think, of the indiscriminate and unnecessary nature of these pages, which also makes them border on being
original research. A list of hat-tricks in these tournaments is simply unnecessary.
Super Nintendo Chalmers (
talk) 08:45, 18 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Note, there is a discussion about this issue at
WP:FOOTY. The nominating user has relisted all of these articles without first obtaining any consensus that these articles should be deleted.
Jmorrison230582 (
talk) 09:26, 18 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep Notable lists of notable topics, per the previous AfD and all the ones directly beneath this one. LugnutsDick Laurent is dead 18:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep notable list of notable events, this is becoming disruptive.
The Rambling Man (
talk) 20:48, 18 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep - there seems to be consensus here that lists of hat-tricks in top-level international competitions are notable.
GiantSnowman 16:21, 20 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep This seems like a ridiculous nomination. Hat-tricks are usually notable events, especially in professional leagues. Often when one occurs, reference is made to previous records (i.e. last hat-trick by that player / team / against that opposition, etc.). That in itself suggests maintaining an article with the hat-trick records in a league has encyclopedic value. --
R45 talk! 15:57, 22 September 2015 (UTC)reply
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