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The result was merge to
List of England international footballers. There's clear consensus here that this should not remain as a stand-alone list in its current form. It's less clear which of several possible re-organizations is the preferred one. I'm calling this a merge to
List of England international footballers, largely because the XFDcloser software requires me to specify a target. However, I'll leave it up to whoever performs the merge to read over the whole discussion here and consider if any of the other organizational structures make sense (perhaps with further discussion on the talk pages). It's clear that this isn't going to be a straight deletion (i.e. admin action won't be required to delete anything) so no need for further heavy-weight AfD process. --
RoySmith(talk) 14:25, 2 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Complete list of footballers to have played for the
England national football team, which is merely an extension of the
List of England international footballers article (that article is limited to players with 10+ caps). Either the extended data is not wanted, per
WP:NOTSTATS, or it is wanted and should go on the main article. Either way, the (alphabetical) article is redundant.
OZOO(t)(c) 13:59, 24 October 2017 (UTC)reply
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OZOO(t)(c) 14:16, 24 October 2017 (UTC)reply
delete I think it is overall of footballers, but these two articles are similar, most of footballers are unnecessary to write on. So no need to keep.
Hhhhhkohhhhh (
talk) 14:21, 24 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - redundant list that covers material already found elsewhere. No opinion yet on ChrisTheDude's suggestion.
Inter&anthro (
talk) 02:33, 26 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep not the same article, as it includes players with fewer than 10 caps. The suggestion to split would still require this list - how can a list split across multiple pages be sorted alphabetically? This should be
List of England international footballers; that list is incomplete and should be renamed to "List of England international footballers with 10 or more caps" or something similar if these are not merged.
Peter James (
talk) 23:15, 31 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Rename and cull per Struway2. One article for 1-9 caps, and one for everyone else, with proper DAB hatnotes. Any further segmentation would make it harder to find individuals through sorting, and would be harder to maintain as players cross the thresholds.
TimTempleton(talk)(cont) 18:02, 1 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Purposes of the list include searching for a name, for the most capped players or chronologically for players who are likely to have made appearances at the same time. Splitting by number of caps, beyond a small number at the top, makes the list less useful.
Peter James (
talk) 22:26, 1 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Worth noting that it has been standard practice for a decade or more to split lists of club players over multiple lists as per the York City example linked somewhere above.......... --
ChrisTheDude (
talk) 08:29, 2 November 2017 (UTC)reply
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