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The result was delete. Fenix down ( talk) 20:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Léa Khelifi
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fails WP:NFOOTY Mightytotems ( talk) 20:18, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Mightytotems ( talk) 20:18, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:31, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:06, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 09:12, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NFOOTY failure. Number 5 7 13:13, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - Article about semi-pro women's footballer which satisfies WP:GNG. I added some references including in-depth coverage from Le Républicain Lorrain and Le Parisien. Khelifi has been an important player in France's D1 and already has trained with the French senior side. Jogurney ( talk) 21:58, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete semi-pros are inherently not notable.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 00:54, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- There are thousands of articles about semi-pro footballers, most of them played in FIFA internationals or Olympic finals, but not all. Do you really think we should delete an article like Sailen Manna because he was a semi-pro player? If the article satisfies the GNG, there's plenty of consensus for considering it notable. Jogurney ( talk) 01:36, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- @
Johnpacklambert: Have to concur with
Jogurney here;
WP:NFOOTY clearly states that even those who fail could still satisfy
WP:GNG (see also
WP:WOSO). You can debate and disagree about whether this article satisfies GNG (I clearly did since I nominated it for deletion), but your comment about semi-pro is wrong and could systematically bias against female footballers or footballers playing in eras before professionalization or countries with less professionalization.
Mightytotems (
talk) 22:29, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- Which is one of the most unwise things in that horrid guideline. We should only allow articles on football players who pass the football guideline. GNG has been so broadly interpreted that if taken the way some people interpret it we would have an encyclopedia full of non-notable people who once or twice got written in a hyper local newspaper. We need to be reasonable, and failing to pass the absurdly broad football guideline should exclude all football players who don't from inclusion, unless they have a claim to notability totally unrelated to football.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 16:15, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- @ Johnpacklambert: Your personal feelings about WP:NFOOTY aside, we're here to discuss deletion based on current guidelines. I too think NFOOTY is not great (though for totally different reasons, it sounds like), but the place for that discussion is not here. Mightytotems ( talk) 18:13, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- Which is one of the most unwise things in that horrid guideline. We should only allow articles on football players who pass the football guideline. GNG has been so broadly interpreted that if taken the way some people interpret it we would have an encyclopedia full of non-notable people who once or twice got written in a hyper local newspaper. We need to be reasonable, and failing to pass the absurdly broad football guideline should exclude all football players who don't from inclusion, unless they have a claim to notability totally unrelated to football.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 16:15, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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