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The result was redirect to Rangasthalam (soundtrack). Discarding one "keep" vote from IP user which has no explanation. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 ( ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 08:00, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Jigelu Rani
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5/6 of the article is bad sources. There is not a reason why as to why this article exists nor are there enough references given for the song. DareshMohan ( talk) 08:29, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and India. Shellwood ( talk) 08:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Keep: All sources in the article are reliable. That said, the article is good enough to pass WP:NSONG and WP:GNG. - Ranjith207 ( talk) 09:22, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Blocked sock. Ab207 ( talk) 07:03, 27 May 2022 (UTC)- Comment Tollywood, YouTube, Gaana, iTunes and other databases are not reliable and they give no extra information.
DareshMohan (
talk) 10:04, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Who says YouTube, Gaana and iTunes are unreliable sources? I don't believe. They are official sites.
2409:4073:2105:B4E8:0:0:359:C8B1 (
talk) 10:27, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- IP, please see WP:BADCHARTS: "Charts pertaining to only one specific retailer should not be used." They shouldn't be even mentioned in the article, let alone using for notability -- Ab207 ( talk) 12:48, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Who says YouTube, Gaana and iTunes are unreliable sources? I don't believe. They are official sites.
2409:4073:2105:B4E8:0:0:359:C8B1 (
talk) 10:27, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Tollywood, YouTube, Gaana, iTunes and other databases are not reliable and they give no extra information.
DareshMohan (
talk) 10:04, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to Rangasthalam (soundtrack). Does not meet WP:NSONG, as it lacks the sources which are not just reliable but also significant and indepedent with coverage on the song itself (not album or film) -- Ab207 ( talk) 09:43, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep This article meets WP:NSONG independently. 2409:4073:2105:B4E8:0:0:359:C8B1 ( talk) 10:58, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Added accolades this song recieved. It also meets
WP:NSONG and
WP:GNG.
DreamDon (
talk) 04:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Those minor awards do no establish notability, please pick your
three best sources which cover the song independently --
Ab207 (
talk) 07:20, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- P.S. The
Zee Cine Awards Telugu that @
DreamDon added was for the song "Yentha Sakkagunnave" and not for this one. We don't have an article on Radio City Cine Awards [Telugu]. I presume we don't consider it notable, or is it already notable and that no one has yet created the article ? —
DaxServer (
t ·
m ·
c) 09:14, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for cross checking that. The criteria we are looking at
"has won one or more significant awards or honor,"
so merely being a notable award isn't enough anyway Ab207 ( talk) 11:36, 22 May 2022 (UTC)- Doesn't "notable award" mean a "significant award" (ignoring one or more counts)? If not, how do we differentiate b/w "notable" and "significant" [award] in this context? —
DaxServer (
t ·
m ·
c) 12:10, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- IMO, being notable means the award is eligible to have an article on Wikipedia. However, the bar of "significant award" is high enough that the winning such award itself confers notability. How high is it is up for debate as no Indian examples are listed but I'd say should be in the league of
National Film Awards --
Ab207 (
talk) 12:54, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- @
DaxServer: Can you also cross check the Radio City Cine Awards [Telugu] Award? The source lead to a blank page. It is very likely that the award was for "Yentha Sakkagunnave" given that
Chandrabose won the Filmfare and SIIMA awards for that song. Source is
hard to find (old source example).
DareshMohan (
talk) 02:53, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- @ DareshMohan Here's the correct archive link [1]. The nomination is for "Chandrabose - Rangasthalam & others". No particular song was mentioned and thus I left it alone in the article, but this was in 2019. Your Twitter link with the Award is for 2017, I don't know for which tho — DaxServer ( t · m · c) 08:23, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- @
DaxServer: Can you also cross check the Radio City Cine Awards [Telugu] Award? The source lead to a blank page. It is very likely that the award was for "Yentha Sakkagunnave" given that
Chandrabose won the Filmfare and SIIMA awards for that song. Source is
hard to find (old source example).
DareshMohan (
talk) 02:53, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- IMO, being notable means the award is eligible to have an article on Wikipedia. However, the bar of "significant award" is high enough that the winning such award itself confers notability. How high is it is up for debate as no Indian examples are listed but I'd say should be in the league of
National Film Awards --
Ab207 (
talk) 12:54, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Doesn't "notable award" mean a "significant award" (ignoring one or more counts)? If not, how do we differentiate b/w "notable" and "significant" [award] in this context? —
DaxServer (
t ·
m ·
c) 12:10, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for cross checking that. The criteria we are looking at
- P.S. The
Zee Cine Awards Telugu that @
DreamDon added was for the song "Yentha Sakkagunnave" and not for this one. We don't have an article on Radio City Cine Awards [Telugu]. I presume we don't consider it notable, or is it already notable and that no one has yet created the article ? —
DaxServer (
t ·
m ·
c) 09:14, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Those minor awards do no establish notability, please pick your
three best sources which cover the song independently --
Ab207 (
talk) 07:20, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect per Ab207. The only reference in the article that could be considered WP:RS is the Firstpost one; but that covers the whole soundtrack, not just the song. Hemantha ( talk) 03:14, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect WP:ATD-R, the references in the critical reception review all the songs and not just this one in particular — DaxServer ( t · m · c) 08:25, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to Rangasthalam (soundtrack). Fails WP:NSONG per nom. SBKSPP ( talk) 00:19, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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