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The result was delete. Fenix down ( talk) 08:07, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Jacek Deniz Troshupa
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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. No appearances for Skenderbeu despite what infobox says. BlameRuiner ( talk) 09:17, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fails NBIO, not seeing anything that's not a mention in passing on niche websites. WP:NOTSTATS, etc. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:08, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Has played seven matches professionally in the Football Superleague of Kosovo and UEFA Champions League qualification in the 2019 calendar year. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victoryboy ( talk • contribs) 00:44, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete – No pro-league appearances. FkpCascais ( talk) 01:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 08:43, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete I can confirm he rode the pine for Skenderbeu. Fails WP:NFOOTY. SportingFlyer T· C 14:20, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - He never played in a competitive match for Skënderbeu, and although there is some online Albanian-language coverage it is routine stuff like that (transfer announcements, match reports). Fails NFOOTBALL and GNG. Jogurney ( talk) 15:26, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - (Not the clearest case, would like some feedback) I found some decent coverage: [1], [2], [3], [4] - WP:THREE? Four different outlets providing, admittedly not aware of them before now. A fair amount of sustained "routine" coverage too. Interested to hear some thoughts: Piotrus, FkpCascais, GiantSnowman, SportingFlyer, Jogurney + anyone else. Happy to be proved otherwise, but wanted to ask before this is rushed to deletion - worth double-checking. R96Skinner ( talk) 18:26, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
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[5] - not at all, routine match report;
[6] - interview, not used to establish notability;
[7] - routine transfer report;
[8] - could be fine, but I can't judge whether the source is notable. Still a strong delete.
SportingFlyer
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- Appreciate your response! A match report that exists because of Troshupa - he's the story. Interviews seem to split opinion, some say they count some don't - is there proper consensus for them not counting? R96Skinner ( talk) 21:23, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- Match reports are WP:MILL and don't count towards notability, and interviews on the source topic are too close to the source topic to count towards notability. There are some exceptions, I don't see that here in this case. He's simply at the moment a non-notable semi-professional footballer. SportingFlyer T· C 00:45, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
- I am simpathetic towards players in leagues of former-Yugoslavia, but I really can´t find any argument to keep him. If he had played even one game in Polish Ekstraklasa, even Albanian Superliga, but he didn´t, can´t do nothing for him, sorry. FkpCascais ( talk) 00:48, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
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[5] - not at all, routine match report;
[6] - interview, not used to establish notability;
[7] - routine transfer report;
[8] - could be fine, but I can't judge whether the source is notable. Still a strong delete.
SportingFlyer
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C 19:05, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per the failure to meet GNG. Red Phoenix talk 16:45, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
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