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The result was delete. T. Canens ( talk) 23:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC) reply

Gorik Khachatryan

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the articles creator on the grounds that the article has several sources and references, possibly based on the mistaken impression that it was a BLPPROD. In any case, the coverage he has received is routine or run-of-the-mill sports journalism, insufficient for general notability. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 20:01, 19 August 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 20:02, 19 August 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. —  JJMC89 ( T· E· C) 02:16, 20 August 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. —  JJMC89 ( T· E· C) 02:16, 20 August 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions. —  JJMC89 ( T· E· C) 02:16, 20 August 2015 (UTC) reply

• Keep - He is a professional player at FC Ararat Yerevan and captained the team for 2 seasons, and one of the prominent defenders of the Armenian Premier League who plays for a fully professional club that clinched the USSR championship during the 1970s and played against Bayern Munich in the quarter finals of the European Cup.-- Spetsnaz1991 ( talk) 04:25, 20 August 2015 (UTC) reply
• Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG.

Comments above by Spetsnaz1991 are misguided. Current consensus is that NFOOTY is only satisfied by participation in contental competition when the player in question has played firstly in the competition proper and secondly is involved in a match between two clubs both from fully professional leagues.

Furthermore, the argument that Ararat Yerevan is a fully professional club is irrelevant. full professionalism needs to be league wide and there is no consensus at WP:FOOTY that the Armenian league is fully professional. Its historic performance in the Soviet Union and the European cup is also irrelevant in determining the notability of a current player.

The sources provided in the article do not satisfy GNG:

1. Football Database - is just a database entry, these exist for thousands of players across the world and do not amount to significant coverage.
2. FC Ararat - is a profile on the club's website. As a primary source, this does not support GNG.
3. ArmSport - Seems like a lengthy source, but the reference title in the aritlce in question indicates this is more about FC Ararat than the player. Not sure this supports GNG for this player but would welcome translation from an Armenian speaker.
4. ArmSport - A very brief 3 question interview with the player. Not significant enough coverage to help support GNG.
5. ArmSport - A very, very short bulletin. From the description in the players article, this is routine transfer talk, so not relevant in terms of GNG. Fenix down ( talk) 09:38, 20 August 2015 (UTC) reply

• Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 11:01, 24 August 2015 (UTC) reply

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