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The result was delete. So Why 11:30, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Global Music Awards
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The intent of these awards is primarily promotional [1] (Global Music Awards (GMA) is a prestigious international music competition which celebrates truly independent musicians, showcasing original music, unique voices, and emerging artists outside of the major label system. GMA honors establish credibility and help artists schedule bookings and secure dates, as well as gain promotion, distribution, and radio play. Talented artists who win awards are just as talented as some of the biggest artists in the country; GMA helps generate buzz about their music and reaches industry insiders, music managers, music supervisors, and record label executives) with ~4 sets of awards per year. In February 2018, there were 9 gold medals (one a best in show), ~70 silver medals for outstanding achievement, and ~50 bronze medals -- fewer than silver -- for the "finalists". One of the potential prizes listed is a feature article in Billboard Magazine, but there's 0 matches for "global music award[s]" at Billboard.com, and I can't find other independent evidence of a direct link between Billboard and the prize result. There's passing mention of the winning of the award by some artists -- because that's what the awards are designed to be -- but there doesn't really appear to be any significant RS independent coverage of the awards themselves. These awards should not be used to establish notability (though winners and their works may be independently notable). ~ Hydronium~Hydroxide~ (Talk)~ 15:21, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Barkeep49 ( talk • contribs) 15:36, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 16:37, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 16:37, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete The awards appear to be primarily promotional per nom. Independent coverage of the award itself is very limited, what sources there are appear to be largely promotional [2], otherwise the sources are only about musicians who won the awards (presumably a form of self-promotion by the artists themselves - they submit themselves for consideration for the award by paying a fee). Note that it should not be confused with another award called Global Awards that turns up searches for Global Music Awards [3]. That is given by the Global media company, and that appears to be a valid award with many independent sources. Hzh ( talk) 18:35, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- Keep First of all, I would like to mention that this is my first attempt to create a page. If the tone of the page appears promotional, I would work on it and make it look more appropriate for the encyclopedic platform that Wikipedia is. However, the notability of the awards is there as it is covered by numerous independent sources. Similar pages like International Jean Sibelius Violin Competition and Akil Koci Prize are covered by few or less sources as compared to Global Music Awards, but they haven't been deleted. If this is the standard for notability of the award or prize pages, then Global Music Awards is far more notable than the others. Motivatedjack ( talk) 07:52, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- This is a basic misunderstanding. Notability is not determined by the number of references in the article per WP:NEXIST, but by the number of independent reliable sources that exist in a search. For example, a simple search for International Jean Sibelius Violin Competition would yield numerous results in Google Books - [4], which is not something you can say for Global Music Awards - [5] (just one passing mention of someone winning the award, given the way the number of awards they gave, it is surprising). I can easily fix the sourcing issue with International Jean Sibelius Violin Competition, but here the issue with Global Music Awards is more problematic. It is not merely that it is written in a promotional way, but that the award itself appear to be non-notable but designed in a way that can be used to for self-promotion (and the bulk of the sources are those used by the artist to promote themselves). There is no indication of any credible or notable organization that supports it (the mention of Billboard is not supported by Billboard itself, for all we know it could simply involve placing an advert at Billboard), and has all the appearances of a vanity award (artists submit themselves for the awards, pay a fee and get an award), which has to be mentioned if true. Compare for example to the similarly titled Global Awards I can find numerous independent coverage of the award itself even thought it is in reality just a radio award local to the UK (the word Global refers to the company that gave the award) and only just started this year - [6] [7] [8] [9] [10], which is not something you can say about Global Music Awards. No one appears to care about it except those who won it. Hzh ( talk) 10:09, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
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