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Delete - Seems to fail
WP:FOOTYN no indication club has taken part in a national tournament.
Fenix down (
talk) 07:03, 18 April 2017 (UTC)reply
PRESERVE - Neither sportspam and the club won the National Football Championship among amateur teams.
Aleksandr Grigoryev (
talk) 07:32, 18 April 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment: There seems to be some confusion. The sports notability guideline refers only to athletes and not teams. The page even specifically states that teams must go by
WP:CORP. Further, FOOTYN is an essay.
SL93 (
talk) 07:52, 18 April 2017 (UTC)reply
SL93, the article is particularly essential in providing some understanding about sports in the region (
Chernivtsi Oblast). In 2000s the club was a leader of regional football, was very active at the National Championship among amateur teams for several seasons, and provided quite few professional players, yet since 2010 there seems to be almost no information it.
Aleksandr Grigoryev (
talk) 08:54, 18 April 2017 (UTC)reply
FOOTYN is an essay but it is also a generally accepted consensus established through a large number of AfD discussions that football clubs need to have participated in national tournaments to be considered notable. I'm not aware of WP:CORP ever actually being used in football club discussions, specifically because the language used is heavily tilted towards companies rather than sports clubs. @
Aleksandr Grigoryev: it is a bit difficult with amateur teams and national titles as they have participated in a national tournament, but the fact that it is amateur normally means it receives substantially less coverage than professional competitions. It would help if rather than including external links, you could change them to inline citations with sourced prose indicating GNG.
Fenix down (
talk) 09:11, 18 April 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete Does not appear to have ever played in a national league or tournament.
Seasider91 (
talk) 19:53, 18 April 2017 (UTC)reply
It participated in the National Amateur competitions. How is it does not appear to have ever played???
Aleksandr Grigoryev (
talk) 12:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment Amateur competitions are no evidence of notabiity, if the tournament was a professional one then they would be notable
Seasider91 (
talk) 10:22, 23 April 2017 (UTC)reply
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Spiderone 20:15, 21 April 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - no evidence of notability.
GiantSnowman 09:04, 22 April 2017 (UTC)reply
Interesting logic. External links are provided, citations are provided, the club's players who played in the
Ukrainian Premier League are mentioned, the club's achievements in the Ukrainian National amateur league are included, the fact of multiple championship titles in the region is mentioned and the article has a link to its corresponding articles in other languages (three other languages), the outcome you give is no evidence of notability. Good job, thank you for your help.
Aleksandr Grigoryev (
talk) 15:49, 22 April 2017 (UTC)reply
The club
Oldland Abbotonians F.C. also fails
WP:FOOTYN without any indication whatsoever playing at any national level tournaments with teams throughout the whole England, the given Ukrainian club on the other hand did participate in such competitions. And now you here are speaking about evidence of notability.
Aleksandr Grigoryev (
talk) 16:29, 22 April 2017 (UTC)reply
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