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The result was delete. I will SALT both this and Esoh Paul Omogba as a result of repeat recreations and numerous AfDs. Edit: nope, Esoh Paul Omogba is already SALTed. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 14:40, 15 November 2017 (UTC) reply

Esoh Omogba

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Not much has changed since the last afd. Omogba has still not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article still does not meet WP:NSPORT or WP:GNG. Deletion was contested on the grounds that he signed for a Burmese club, but since he never made a league appearance for them this does not satisfy WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 00:27, 8 November 2017 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 00:27, 8 November 2017 (UTC) reply

Keep - James Demetriou was contested for deletion but the article was kept since he played in a competitive match between two fully pro clubs in the Cypriot Cup. Same goes for Esoh Omogba, who scored a goal for the Burmese club ( Yadanarbon F.C.) in the 2016 Mekong Club Championship against fully pro Vietnamese team SHB Da Nang and made other appearances in the competition- see here and here. In addition, his Transfermarkt profile reads that Yadarabon are going to buy him in the winter transfer window as well which supports my keep request. Das osmnezz ( talk) 00:36, 8 November 2017 (UTC) reply

Transfermarkt is not a reliable source, and what may happen in future is no basis for notability. The Mekong Cup is an inter-season friendly affair and does not satisfy WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 00:39, 8 November 2017 (UTC) reply

Sorry I did not realize that it was held prior to the new season. But WP:NSPORT reads that 'Players who have played, and managers who have managed in a competitive game between two teams from fully-professional leagues, will generally be regarded as notable' which Omogba has done as the Mekong Championship is still considered competitive despite it being pre-season. And the team he scored against ( Da Nang F.C.) is full-pro (competes in the V.League 1). Das osmnezz ( talk) 01:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC) reply

Omogba was allowed to play that match, despite not having the necessary paperwork to complete his transfer to Yadanarbon. Given that sort of lack of regulation, this is not a competitive fixture. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 01:19, 8 November 2017 (UTC) reply

@ Sir Sputnik: Can you please find me the source that states that information regarding his paperwork? Das osmnezz ( talk) 01:44, 8 November 2017 (UTC) reply

I'm sorry. I misread the article. The paperwork issues were with his transfer leaving Yadanarbon. The basic point still stands though. The Mekong Cup is a promotional completion organized principally by Toyota rather than anything actually competitive. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 04:22, 8 November 2017 (UTC) reply

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• Delete and SALT, fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 08:59, 8 November 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played or managed senior international football nor played or managed in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down ( talk) 11:44, 9 November 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete - no indication that this article satisfies any of our notability guidelines. Jogurney ( talk) 16:58, 10 November 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 11:25, 11 November 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete I had a look through the article and the citations, I actually think he might just pass GNG on the Nigerian and Cambodian areas of Wikipedia, but this is English wikipedia and feel he fails GNG here. Govvy ( talk) 21:57, 11 November 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete the previous point of keeping is up to now not fulfilled. Basic WP:GNG requires significant coverage which he still doesn't have and he didn't meet the specific WP:NSPORTS. Anytime he met or received wider coverage for something in the future the article can be created but we can't keep article for someone in expectation that he may made league appearance in absence of wider coverage too.  —  Ammarpad ( talk) 09:26, 12 November 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete failure of the general notability guidelines. It is high time we make the inclusion criteria for sportsmen a bit more restrictive. The current ones are way overly permissive. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 02:48, 14 November 2017 (UTC) reply
• Keep - subject of article plays in a fully professional league with Yadanarbon F.C. and there is a fair bit of coverage (also yes a lot of it is routine). Article arguably passes WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. Inter&anthro ( talk) 21:28, 14 November 2017 (UTC) reply

He does not play Yadanarbon F.C. After a year in Burma with no competitive appearances, Omogba returned to Boeung Ket. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 23:55, 14 November 2017 (UTC) reply

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