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The result was Delete. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 07:03, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Dovydas Virkšas
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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 21:09, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
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Sir Sputnik, as you can see i clearly put a reference where it states that he has played in the europa league, and if that isnt prestige enough league for you then i guess nothing is. DM Trix
- Europa League appearances only confer notability if they were in the competition proper (i.e. not in qualifying) or in a match between to clubs that play in one of the fully professional leagues listed here. Neither is the case for his appearances in the competition. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 21:43, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment - Sir Sputnik, so your saying that the Lithuanian League is not counted as "professional"? that's just an insult to the league and its country...
DM Trix — Preceding undated comment added 15:46, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- Comment - why don't you just redirect to his current team, AS Saint-Étienne? I don't understand the rush to deletion for these articles that will most likely be recreated within the next year and are plausible search terms. They should be made into redirects so the articles can easily be restored as soon as they do play. —Мандичка YO 😜 00:24, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- There is a long standing consensus against applying
WP:NFOOTBALL in anticipation of future appearances, and with good reason. The claim that a footballer will play in the future is inherently unverifiable, making it a very poor claim to notability. We don't generally redirect un-notable footballers to their club's page, since club affiliation is far too transient, and an individual player is generally not a sub-topic of the club for which he plays. Finally, since deleted article can be restored at the click of a button, the ease of restoration argument doesn't really hold up.
Sir Sputnik (
talk) 01:02, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- Deleted articles cannot be restored at a click of the button - they require contacting an admin to restore. On the other hand, restoring a redirect to its own article can be done at the click of a button by anyone. Redirects must merely be plausible, not constantly up to date. Just redirect and avoid the whole AfD debate entirely. —Мандичка YO 😜 01:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- There is a long standing consensus against applying
WP:NFOOTBALL in anticipation of future appearances, and with good reason. The claim that a footballer will play in the future is inherently unverifiable, making it a very poor claim to notability. We don't generally redirect un-notable footballers to their club's page, since club affiliation is far too transient, and an individual player is generally not a sub-topic of the club for which he plays. Finally, since deleted article can be restored at the click of a button, the ease of restoration argument doesn't really hold up.
Sir Sputnik (
talk) 01:02, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 17:53, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. The redirect request above makes no sense, this player will almost certainly not be associated with this club for his whole career, so the redirect would be needed temporarily at best. Fenix down ( talk) 09:21, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:NFOOTBALL as per comments above. Coverage is very sparse, with pretty much all of it in minor or non-reputable sources. The only thing that appears to have put him in the minor news is a rumored transfer, but until any facts emerge about that, it's just a rumor. Doesn't pass WP:GNG. I agree that the redirect wouldn't work well here, especially given the rumors that he's transferring imminently. ~ Rob Talk 23:48, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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