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• Gene93k (
talk) 14:46, 31 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Delete.
Zentralstadion (1956) already exists; the creator of this new article initially improved that, then decided instead to make a new article and redirect that one there (I've undone the redirect). This article is claiming the precursor stadium never closed. It's a POV fork.
Yngvadottir (
talk) 15:29, 31 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep
It fulfills all interests, due the mass events there.
It is world- known.
It has an other size and design than the stadium today. The stands can not be entered.
The article size would be too big emerged into the Red Bull (Arena), after the Wikipedia guidelines.
The Red Bull Arena is an other stadium for itself and is closed to the old stadium wall.
The article has been patrolled, by administrators.
Before the article here, it was excluded from the Red Bull Arena Leipzig, due the architecture and form with shapes.
+++That is the English Wikipedia and the article name should be in English and not in German. The year 1956 alone is wrong and nonsense. --
Nukefirestadium (
talk) 16:08, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
++++Central Stadium (German: Zentralstadion, German pronunciation: [tsɛnˈtra:lˈʃta:di̯ɔn])--
Nukefirestadium (
talk) 16:13, 31 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment. Nukefirestadium has been blocked for a week for edit warring. S/he had created a copy/paste version of the article at
Central Stadium, Leipzig (1956-2000) and redirected the article to that title. I have undone the redirecting and will now instead redirect the new copy to
Central Stadium (Leipzig, GDR). However, the point about using an English title is a valid one;
Zentralstadion (1956) should probably be moved after this AfD finishes. (It also has already been expanded by Nukefirestadium - there is not much merging left to be done.)
Yngvadottir (
talk) 17:14, 31 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment After this
sockpuppet investigation, Nukefirestadium is block indefinitely as sock puppet. As far as I know, a reason to revert all of his edits. The Bannertalk 18:48, 31 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Merge this article and
Zentralstadion (1956), but don't merge with
Red Bull Arena (Leipzig). Now we have a huge mess and the average reader doesn't know if it's 1, 2, or 3 stadiums, or whether they existed at the same time, are connected, or are on the same spot. Since it's 2 stadia, where the original Central Stadium existed and was demolished years before the Red Bull Stadium was being built, this is a case like the
Wembley Stadium (1923) and
Wembley Stadium, or
Yankee Stadium (1923) and
Yankee Stadium, where the two stadia share a name and general proximity.
Epicgenius (
talk) 18:26, 31 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Merge to
Zentralstadion (1956) (clear fork that needs to be remedied ASAP). Keep separate from the piece on the new incarnation of the facility.
Carrite (
talk) 11:57, 2 November 2014 (UTC)reply
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