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The result was delete. Barkeep49 ( talk) 20:41, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Bonanza Springs, California
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According to Durham it was "was founded as a resort; it became a camping place after the hotel burned down" (article text). I find no reference to it other than as a set of three springs, so I'm going to say this fails validation as a settlement. Mangoe ( talk) 00:36, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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Waring 1915, p. 190 has it.
- Waring, Gerald Ashley (1915). Springs of California. U.S. Geological Survey Water Supply Paper. Vol. 338. U.S. Government Printing Office. doi: 10.3133/wsp338.
- Uncle G ( talk) 01:00, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- I note that Waring 1915 has a lot of the other ones such as Bartlett Springs, California (p.200), Howard Springs, California (p.95), and Hough Springs, California (p.197) too, so a quick first correction for all of these would be to just change "unincorporated community" to "set of springs". Uncle G ( talk) 01:20, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:44, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:45, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Sources here: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] and [11] from 1882. However, only a couple of those discuss it as a community, and even then only in the sense of water rates. SportingFlyer T· C 11:37, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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Keep - Clearly meets WP:GNG and "named natural features" of WP:GEOLAND, sustained coverage in independent reliable sources over a period of years. This well-known Mojave Desert oasis is an important source of water source for the Southern California arid lands. It is a Mojave Trails National Monument (California Landmark). While it may not be an important settlement, it definitely is an important spring (geographic/hydrological feature). There are many full articles on Newspapers.com on more historical info here: [12] – I haven’t yet searched on JSTOR. Below is what I’ve found on Google. I’ll add a few of the best sources to the article today or tomorrow.
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Press Democrat [15]; Press Democrat (diff article [16]; Ukiah News [17]; Route 66 News [18]; California Water News Daily [19]; USA Today [20]; Highland News [21]; KCET [22]; Lake County News [23]; Three Valleys Water District [24]; Victor Valley Daily Press [25]; Bonanza Spring Study [26]
Government reports: USGS/US Dept. of Interior Report on watering places in the Mojave Desert [29]; BLM Report on Mojave Springs and Waterholes [30]; BLM [31]; National Park Service [32]; National Parks Conservation Association [33]- Netherzone ( talk) 14:31, 6 April 2021 (UTC)- At least some of those are about a different Bonanza Springs, this is about the place in Lake County.
SportingFlyer
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SportingFlyer, this is my mistake - I had it the other way around! I will strike my !vote, as I was searching for the Bonanza Springs in the Mojave Desert. I had struck the sources above for the Lake County Bonanza Springs, which is NOT notable. I'll also remove the sources I added to the article. Thank you for pointing out this error on my part.
Netherzone (
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- I mean, it is possible you've stumbled upon a yet to be created article! Also a couple of your sources posted here were about Lake County. SportingFlyer T· C 20:46, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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SportingFlyer, this is my mistake - I had it the other way around! I will strike my !vote, as I was searching for the Bonanza Springs in the Mojave Desert. I had struck the sources above for the Lake County Bonanza Springs, which is NOT notable. I'll also remove the sources I added to the article. Thank you for pointing out this error on my part.
Netherzone (
talk) 20:26, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- At least some of those are about a different Bonanza Springs, this is about the place in Lake County.
SportingFlyer
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- Delete. No post office. Trivial coverage as a resort. This non- WP:RS blog mentions Bonanza, Howard and other resorts (apparently Bonanza had a liquor license, which made up for Bonanza's lack of facilities compared to other nearby resorts). I checked out some of SportingFlyer's newspaper.com links and while there are many trivial mentions of Bonanza, I'm not seeing non-notable coverage. To me, non-trivial coverage would be a non-promotional article that is solely about Bonanza in a WP:RS source. Passing articles about water rates don't meet my definition of non-notable. As there is no legal recognition and the coverage is trivial, neither #1 nor #2 of WP:GEOLAND are met. Cxbrx ( talk) 16:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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