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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 04:56, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
Averell Spicer
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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT and more broadly WP:BIO for lack of coverage. LibStar ( talk) 01:38, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, American football, and California. Hey man im josh ( talk) 12:33, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment He does have a couple of significant articles in the Los Angeles Times in 2004 and 2008 (part I) (part II). There is also this from rivals.com that is behind a paywall. Alvaldi ( talk) 14:29, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- ProQuest brings up an article that's likely sigcov from The Record, but there's only an abstract: "NO DOUBT ABOUT HIM // USC recruit Spicer an easy choice for Inland Empire Football All-Star Classic". BeanieFan11 ( talk) 16:11, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. For two reasons. First, I couldn't find sufficient coverage to pass WP:GNG. The ProQuest article noted above (which I can't read either) appears to be from his time in high school before even enrolling at USC. Second, he never played any regular-season NFL games, and moreover, it appears that he didn't win any signifcant honors or have a particularly notable college career either. See here (22 total tackles and two sacks in four years at USC) and here (USC bio indicating he was primarily a backup on the defensive line). Combining the lack of on-field notability with a weak showing of coverage, I find no basis for notability. Cbl62 ( talk) 16:09, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
- The first Los Angeles Times piece from 2004 ( here) has depth of coverage, but it's an article written when he was in high school, part of a series on "the Southland's top high school football players". It appears he showed great promise in high school and was a top recruit, but he sustained injuries in college and never quite made the grade at USC. Per WP:YOUNGATH, an in-depth profile from his high school playing career doesn't support a stand-alone article -- particularly where he didn't fulfill the promise when he got to the next level. Cbl62 ( talk) 16:22, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
- The second Los Angeles Times piece is an article seeking to answer the question of who would replace Sedrick Ellis, USC's star nose tackle (headline: "Trojans look for stopgap measures" to fill the hole at nose tackle). Spicer was one of the "stopgap" measures to replace Ellis and thus received some coverage. USC during the Pete Carroll years was one of the super-programs where even a backup (or "stopgap") nose tackle received some coverage, but the fact remains that Averell never made the cut (whether due to injury or whatever) and doesn't IMO warrant a stand-alone article. Cbl62 ( talk) 16:38, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
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