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The result was delete. Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 06:59, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Argentina–Germany football rivalry
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This page was arbitrarily created ahead of the final (recentism) and has no sources but is an excuse for a disambiguation page. We don't create non-existant info...that's the textbook case of OR Lihaas ( talk) 17:19, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
The above statements are ridiculous. Couple of reference s below http://thebiglead.com/2014/07/10/germany-argentina-rivalry-history-world-cup-final-2014/
http://m.sportskeeda.com/football/fifa-world-cup-2014-argentina-and-germany-renew-rivalry-final
They may not have a neighbouly rivalry or one which has political connetations like Argentina England..... but which have played three world cup finals and a few aacrimonious quarters including one with a brawl. Recentism claims would carry weight if the final was the first meeting.
202.69.12.28 ( talk) 18:41, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- "Keep"- Needs work, but has improved a lot.
101.50.101.184 ( talk) 19:53, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete, for now, I believe that it would be best to delete the page. Yes, they may have played against each other in two consecutive World Cups (1986 and 1990), but the way the article is currently set up will not be adequate. Please take the Mexico–United States soccer rivalry page for example. JC · Talk · Contributions 20:51, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - article confirms that the two teams have played each other quite a few times, but that does not a rivalry make. I can see no evidence of rivalry here -- ChrisTheDude ( talk) 21:05, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ChrisTheDude ( talk) 21:07, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete I have no idea where the author gets the idea that because the teams have played many times in the past, including in tournaments, a rivalry exists between the two. This is a list of games played, with no evidence of existance of an actual rivalry, much less its notability. Reywas92 Talk 04:41, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - Pure OR. Per WP:NRIVALRY, the fact that teams have met a number of times does not in itself create a notable rivalry, significant reliable coverage of the rivalry, not simply routine match reporting is required to satisfy GNG. There is none of that here. Fenix down ( talk) 07:20, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - this is not a notable sporting rivalry. Giant Snowman 11:44, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep I have searched for "Argentina Germany rivalry" and found the following
- Germany vs. Argentina: A Great World Cup Rivalry "Brazil-Argentina and Germany-Netherlands may be the fiercest rivalries in international soccer. But Germany and Argentina still have quite the conjoined history, arguably more than either of the other two in the World Cup."
- FIFA World Cup 2014: Argentina and Germany will renew their rivalry in the final "Argentina and Germany look to renew their rivalry in the 2014 World Cup Final"
- World Cup 2014: Argentina's & Germany's History Between the Soccer Nations "Although the two countries are separated by more than 7,000 miles, the rivalry is fiercer than ever."
- Argentina vs Germany is a royal football rivalry "Argentina versus Germany is a royal football rivalry that has produced some of the most exciting matches in previous world cups."
- Argentina vs. Germany a classic World Cup rivalry "The rivalry between Argentina and Germany is an old one, including two World Cup finals, with one victory each." Cambalachero ( talk) 16:12, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:31, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Argentina-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:31, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:31, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- Ya but it needs the political history of the Nazis hiding in Argentina. And that just synthesis.
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creation reasoning
Lihaas (
talk) 17:56, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- The nazis do not belong in this article. Do not confuse it with
Argentina–Germany relations, which is a completely different and unrelated article.
Cambalachero (
talk) 02:58, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
- See other rivalry articles that add the political context. (and its also my case in point that it doesn't have anything here)
Lihaas (
talk) 04:28, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
- Well, it is you who is saying that there is some relation between both things; so it is up to you to prove it and write about it. And remember to avoid WP:SYNTHESIS when doing so. Cambalachero ( talk) 13:30, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
- See other rivalry articles that add the political context. (and its also my case in point that it doesn't have anything here)
Lihaas (
talk) 04:28, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
- The nazis do not belong in this article. Do not confuse it with
Argentina–Germany relations, which is a completely different and unrelated article.
Cambalachero (
talk) 02:58, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
- Plus
creation reasoning
Lihaas (
talk) 17:56, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep It is a valid rivalry and recently there have been many reliable news sources talking about it. I call the big one bitey ( talk) 19:21, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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