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The result was delete. Randykitty ( talk) 10:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Angus Gunn

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I believe the page has already be deleted. Player fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG. SALT maybe required. ArsenalFan700 ( talk) 18:42, 20 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 19:05, 20 September 2015 (UTC) reply

• Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 19:07, 20 September 2015 (UTC) reply
• Delete. A previous article about the same subject, at Angus Gunn (footballer born 1996), was deleted by PROD last month. Fails the football-specific notability guideline because subject has still not played in a fully professional league or at senior international level, and there's still no evidence of the player receiving enough significant independent coverage to pass the general notability guideline. cheers, Struway2 ( talk) 09:02, 21 September 2015 (UTC) reply
• Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down ( talk) 09:12, 21 September 2015 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Has the same level of notability as Kelechi Iheanacho when the consensus was made to keep his article. Arials101 ( talk) 16:50, 21 September 2015 (UTC) reply

How? Kelechi has actually played for the first-team. -- ArsenalFan700 ( talk) 23:40, 21 September 2015 (UTC) reply

There was no consensus to keep Kelechi Iheanacho during any of the 4 deletion debates that I'm aware of. Was there a fifth? Nfitz ( talk) 22:31, 25 September 2015 (UTC) reply

No there wasn't any other AfD, the last one was closed as "no consensus" per the votes cast, not per the "level of notability". Aside from WP:OTHERSTUFF in general, Kelechi Iheanacho and Angus Gunn particularly have nothing in common, notabilitywise. Kraxler ( talk) 18:03, 27 September 2015 (UTC) reply

• Delete - He has not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 23:41, 21 September 2015 (UTC) reply
• Delete - no pro appearances Spiderone 18:50, 24 September 2015 (UTC) reply

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• Delete - Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL JMHamo ( talk) 00:01, 26 September 2015 (UTC) reply
• Keep - Meets WP:GNG with significant coverage over the years in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Examples from 2012, 2014 and here's one from after the AFD started 2015. Nfitz ( talk) 14:21, 27 September 2015 (UTC) reply
• Delete - Wait until he makes a professional debut. Thursby16 ( talk) 18:34, 27 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Why? If he meets WP:GNG then doesn't matter if hasn't made professional debut. Nfitz ( talk) 02:10, 28 September 2015 (UTC) reply

... but he doesn't JMHamo ( talk) 02:13, 28 September 2015 (UTC) reply

He clearly doesn't. The sources provided above to support GNG are classic examples of WP:NOTINHERITED. There's a bit of chat going on about this young player because of who his dad was, not because of any achievements the player has gained. You simply cannot claim a player is generally notable in the field of football when they have never actually played football at any senior level. Fenix down ( talk) 10:30, 28 September 2015 (UTC) reply

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