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Player fails
WP:NFOOTY as has not played in a
fully professional league, nor senior international football. No indication of any other achievements that have garnered sufficient, significant coverage to satisfy
WP:GNG. None of the recently added references go beyond
routine match reporting. None deal with the subject either exclusively or as significantly all of the report.
Fenix down (
talk) 11:15, 2 March 2015 (UTC)reply
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GiantSnowman 13:08, 2 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete - He has not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article fails
WP:NSPORT and
WP:GNG.
Sir Sputnik (
talk) 17:40, 2 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Comment - my understanding of continental matches was that the player still had to be involved in a match between two teams from
WP:FPLs. the inclusion in the Bahrain squad is not relevant. Per
WP:NFOOTY, the player actually has to play, not simply be called up to the squad, I believe from
this that he was an unused substitute in all three games.
Fenix down (
talk) 17:56, 2 March 2015 (UTC)reply
KeepRiffa S.C. is a fully professional team, in a fully professional league, the top division in Bahrain is fully professional since around mid-2000's, hence it only has 10 teams. Unless he has not started in the Riffa squad then he passes the WP: Footy Notability test.
Comment - Please review
WP:FPL, there is no consensus that the Bahraini league is fully professional.
Fenix down (
talk) 17:39, 6 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Reply There are around 10 pro teams in the country, and with maybe 2 or 3 exceptions all play in this league, similarly the league itself is very much near-to pro, again with the exception of a few teams. Either way the club
Riffa S.C. definitely is pro, it's also one of the oldest clubs in the region, and won AFC championships, the players earn an astonishing amount of money
Abcmaxx (
talk) 18:48, 6 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Comment - so as you say, it is not "fully" professional, as required by NFOOTY.
Fenix down (
talk) 20:58, 6 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I still have my doubts whether it is not, I was certain it was fully professionalised by now, the
WP:FPL is outdated and incomplete
Abcmaxx (
talk) 22:58, 6 March 2015 (UTC)reply
In the absence of reliable sources confirming it, the claim to full professionalism doesn't carry any weight as far as notability goes.
Sir Sputnik (
talk) 23:42, 6 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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kikichugirloh hello! 18:46, 9 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep Has played in Champions League match versus fully professional team from
Qatar Stars League listed at
WP:FPL. While Bahraini league is not fully professional, it's been asserted that Riffa itself is, and thus he has played in a match between two fully professional teams in the Champions League.
Nfitz (
talk) 19:53, 15 March 2015 (UTC)reply
For a match continental club competition to confer notability it must have been a match between two clubs who play in fully pro leagues, and as you've pointed out, the Bahraini league is not fully pro.
Sir Sputnik (
talk) 03:26, 16 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Close enough. We've applied that standard before. Given he's been called to national team, but yet to be capped, with a lot of media coverage about that, there's several weak claims that could be made. The sum total makes it
WP:COMMONSENSE to keep this article.
Nfitz (
talk) 00:25, 18 March 2015 (UTC)reply
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Coffee //
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beans // 00:24, 17 March 2015 (UTC)reply
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