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The result was delete. --
RoySmith(talk) 22:05, 18 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Seasons of a semi-professional club playing in a not fully-professional league. Doesn't pass
WP:NSEASONS. Also is not referenced and most of the matches don't have reports linked either.
SuperJew (
talk) 17:26, 5 September 2016 (UTC)reply
I am also nominating the following related pages because they are the following two seasons of same club in the same league, and aren't notable for the same reason, as well as also being almost completely unreferenced:
Keep - I don't understand why this wasn't brought up months back when I brought up the idea of making the missing articles
here (they could have the necessary references added). Subsequently, Northern Fury were initially created as a top level
A-League club, making their top flight season articles "notable". As for their articles with them in the second highest tier of Australian football, I think there's enough notability to warrant their season articles being kept, especially without fear of them being relegated further into the abyss of non-notability. -
J man708 (
talk) 19:40, 5 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Must of gone unnoticed. Also, the discussion regarding starting new season pages for NPL/Youth teams made me think about this one too. No argument that the seasons when they were in the
A-League are notable and that is why I didn't bring those seasons up in the deletion nomination. Sorry, but the second highest tier of Australian football is not fully professional, and therefore not notable enough for seasons. --
SuperJew (
talk) 19:57, 5 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Yes, but believe it or not, subjects can pass GNG while failing their respective field's Wikipedia guidelines.
Panos Armenakas and
Jake Brimmer for example. You don't have to be such a deletionist about everything... Why not try to fix it, first? -
J man708 (
talk) 20:54, 5 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete all as they fail
WP:NSEASONS. The club's seasons in the top division are undoubtedly notable, but these are not. It was actually pointed out when this was raised on the taskforce page that these may not meet the required notability standards; I would suggest a better place to ask questions on notability would be the main
WT:FOOTY page where more editors will be able to give input.
Number57 08:53, 6 September 2016 (UTC)reply
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Spiderone 15:58, 11 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete all - no evidence of notability.
GiantSnowman 18:44, 11 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep - there's nothing in
WP:NSEASONS that talks about fully professional teams or leagues. On the subject of professionality, is uses the term "professsional" rather than "fully-professional" which is the requirement for players.
Nfitz (
talk) 23:22, 11 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Verbatim quote (emphasis added by me): Articles can be created on individual seasons of teams in top professional leagues, as these articles almost always meet the notability requirements. --
SuperJew (
talk) 11:30, 12 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Precisely, It doesn't say top fully-professional leagues.
Nfitz (
talk) 23:22, 12 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Nfitz, how does this meet notability? There are no references apart from
WP:ROUTINE, and even those are lacking. --
SuperJew (
talk) 21:25, 18 September 2016 (UTC)reply
If we used THAT standard, we'd be deleting seasons articles for Premier League teams! It meets
WP:NSEASONS.
Nfitz (
talk) 21:41, 18 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete all. They all fail
WP:GNG and
WP:NSEASONS. As Super Jew says, NSEASONS stipulates that individual season article should be only created for teams in "top professional league".
NPL QLD is neither "top" nor "professional". 2014 Northern Fury FC season is unreferenced and I can find no sources that are
not routine,
reliable and
in-depth so that the articles pass
WP:GNG. The same goes for the other articles. Nfitz's rationale is nothing to do with the articles and more based on perceived inconsistencies in the policies. - YellowDingo(talk) 00:49, 13 September 2016 (UTC)reply
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