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Just to share. Since this has nothing to do with improving the article, I post it here: Thanks for starting the discussion at Ethnic groups. Although it has become sour, I think it worth while. This morning, I read your words "making some group of people feel bad ...", then went to class where by coincidence a student with Turkish background told how she had been discriminated against by some teachers in primary school. Students without any migration background who knew those teachers confirmed what she said. That is part of my motivation to persevere and to stay calm. Although I have this motivation, I still want my edits to be neutral and agree with you (once again !) that "Wikipedia should describe the world as it is". -- Rsk6400 ( talk) 11:23, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Tserton, could you weigh in on this discussion [1] so we can reach consensus? I see you are one of the more active editors on this article so it would be much appreciated. Will Tyson for real ( talk) 02:16, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
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Only to vent my frustration at the delay of the closure: The date (2031) in your comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethnic groups reminded me of an old friend who jokingly told me that she will get the vaccination in 2026. BTW: She has at least two ethnicities, while her children have three: Basque, Spanish, German.
Just in case it becomes necessary, should we write a summary for WP:DRN together ? -- Rsk6400 ( talk) 06:38, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Just a heads-up: Dutch threshold is getting the minimum for a seat, which has a different percentage in EU setting and in national setting. In national elections that's about 0.7%. Your calculation in the edit comment is probably about correct. -- LaPingvino ( talk) 01:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Tserton, I thoroughly support what you have done and tried to do for the above. I've tried recently to edit the 'English People' page. After making some quite major edits I've backed down and have simply tried to include a version of one of the Wikiproject (Ethnic Groups) piece of text, i.e.:
This article covers the <GROUP> as an ethnic group, not <GROUP> meaning citizens of <COUNTRY>
Strictly speaking there are no citizens of England so the version I have ended up suggesting is:
This article is about English people as an ethnic group, not English people meaning inhabitants of England.
My key argument is that this brings the WP article into closer accord with the OED definition of the adjective 'English', which is:
'Of or belonging to England (or Britain) or its inhabitants.' The OED adds 'In early use sometimes spec[ifically]. designating inhabitants of England of Anglo-Saxon descent, in contradistinction to those of Celtic, Scandinavian, or Norman descent.'
The insistence on focusing solely on something resembling (according to the OED) the non-current usage to the exclusion of the current usage, I find difficult to understand. I have laid my argument out (admittedly belatedly) on the talk page but I'm not sure if there will be any response and suspect that any further edits will just get reverted without backup or by claiming the more succinct statement is better, simply because it is more succinct. If you are able to offer any advice on how to proceed with this I would really appreciate it, even if it's just to say that I have gone about this in the wrong way and would do better to now leave it.
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