...with just a herd of sunbathing trees standing in the way.....
Best wishes Martin for a happy and healthy 2015 PaleCloudedWhite (
talk) 00:13, 1 January 2015 (UTC)reply
A herd of sheep too
Hafspajen (
talk) 11:12, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
WARNING: Marty if you put that thing from Paley's on my page I will bite you.
Hafspajen (
talk) 12:08, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
MARTY!!!!reply
... phew, lucky I changed that colour!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:11, 1 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Have sheperd instead.
Hafspajen (
talk) 12:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Happy New Year!
Dear Martinevans123, HAPPY NEW YEAR Hoping 2015 will be a great year for you! Thank you for your contributions! From a fellow editor, --
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Thank you for quality contributions to articles on churches and halls in Wales, filled with music, for treating
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Then you will like
Cucurbita. How about
BWV 22, comments (and support, of course) welcome, --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 18:57, 4 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Was
supported enough ;) - Next
Palladio as you were so kind to notice (yesterday and tomorrow), - need some solid source for what everybody seems to know about Diamonds, - help? --
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talk) 21:19, 9 February 2015 (UTC)reply
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These bands i put there are Southern Rock bands, ZZ Top played with them on several occasions. I am a huge ZZ Top fan and i know they belong there,
Wiki Elvis (
talk) 23:28, 7 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Congratulations on your discerning musical support. But you might want to discuss that at the article's
Talk Page and gain consensus for your addition. Personally, I'd certainly expect to see those bands playing on the same bill, perhaps many times. But I'm not sure that is sufficient qualification for the "Associated Acts" parameter of the infobox. You might first want to have a look at how that's defined at
Template:Infobox musical artist. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:39, 7 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Wow, what a fine article. Very interesting. Great work.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:20, 10 January 2015 (UTC) ... alas I now can't stop fiddling with it... reply
Well, I am affraid it might be. What Jane should have done, was to take thar parrot and hit him in the head with it. But the of course, we would have never had Queen Elisabeth. But somehow I belive the reason why E, never married was because she had to look at close quarters at
daddy acting
Blue beard.
Hafspajen (
talk) 16:46, 10 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Marty, as the
upper Wiki-1000 - will you look at
this draft. We need jokes. I am afraid Adam is probably not going to edit [
this] edition much, so we are on our own. Be a good brother, and help. You get free hands to add at least two jokes per entry. (except Mishelle, she is
WP:BLP). Today is the last day (officially). You made such a good job on Goethe too..
Hafspajen (
talk) 12:31, 11 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Ok yes, I'll try and take a look. I'm a bit busy right now with
Francesco Rosi who I would very much like to see at ITN. I think he influenced a whole generation of realist film makers.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:27, 11 January 2015 (UTC).reply
The poster from the 1867 Paris production does not include a quote, but, if you know the original French version, there is a scene (which is not in the "standard", later Italian ones) in which the king arrives in time to see Rodrigo die. Hope this helps.
Viva-Verdi (
talk) 00:46, 12 January 2015 (UTC)reply
I was just thrown by a single set of quote marks at the end. I've now replaced with parentheses. Does this mean that the scene depicted in the poster is one that was taken from the 1846 Philippe II, Roi d'Espagne play by
Eugène Cormon?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:22, 12 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Lend a hand?
I wonder if you could give some encouragement to our mutual friend Ritchie
here. He and I have put a lot of work into it and I really don't want to start over. He hasn't had a chance to respond but maybe you can put in a good word to get him in a positive mood again.
EEng (
talk) 05:07, 13 January 2015 (UTC)reply
I need to repeat this request. Can you please come help get this back on track? Or maybe you'd like to take over the review.
EEng (
talk) 12:48, 13 January 2015 (UTC) And for once in your life be serious this time, okay?reply
Sorry "busy in real life"..... but, as you are so keen....
1. If was being serious, I'd say there is no time limit.
2. I'm reluctant to ever be serious about anything at Wikipedia any more (ever).
3. 1-3 may be read in any order.
I'll try and take a look later. Having managed to get one article to GA status in the space of five years, I think your confidence in my abilities in this regard may be entirely misplaced!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:16, 13 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Start at the end of the page.
EEng (
talk) 15:11, 13 January 2015 (UTC) I suppose
this is what the article should read like to qualify for GA.reply
All I want is a straight GA review, according to the GA requirements.
EEng (
talk) 18:06, 13 January 2015 (UTC)reply
@
The Rambling Man: could do it, as could @
Wizardman: or @
Yoninah:. If anyone of those three comes back with a summary that could be paraphrased as "the article's fine, EEng is right, Ritchie is an arse" I will eat humble pie and put the review back on. I can't really say fairer than that.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 18:47, 13 January 2015 (UTC)reply
They might very well say there are still GA violations, but if they do I hope they'll say which piece of text violates what sections of GACR. I like you a lot, Ritchie, but for some reason there's a disconnect here.
EEng (
talk) 02:37, 14 January 2015 (UTC)reply
You can have Stephen or Spencer take a look. Also, I did start a discussion on the talk page about RD being stale. Any admin who posted there is at least watching the page. It's normal to have noms go up with just three supports (here we have four and the nom, and my implied support) and no objections that haven't been answered.
μηδείς (
talk) 20:30, 14 January 2015 (UTC)reply
"... many people responded with confusion or repulsion." - doesn't sound that tasty, does it.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:38, 23 January 2015 (UTC)reply
This has completely run off the rails -- see also
here. He just won't say what the problems are. If I renominate, will do a review, please? The review will go much more smoothly if it sticks to the criteria. Or, maybe better, can we talk first about what you think he's talking about? If there's actually I problem I want to fix it, but all I get is these vague statements, which I try to address, and then more vague statements.
EEng (
talk) 15:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)reply
"The problems with quotations and images are still there" - I think maybe that sums up Ritchies's view? And he's got pressing real-life commitments it seems. We ought to heartily thank him for helping to get the article nearer to GA status. There are no time limits on these things, are there?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:31, 23 January 2015 (UTC)reply
No, there's no time limit, so if he doesn't have time now we can just suspend until he's ready again. Or we can find another reviewer to take over. But instead he's just failed the article after all this work. Keep in mind the reason the review was so big and went on so long is that so many (most even) of the points he raised weren't related to the
WP:GACR. But here we are.
So "the problems with quotations and images are still there." Great. But what, specifically, are those problems??? Seriously, please help me understand. Start at
[5] and tell me -- is there any issue he raised that I didn't respond to? And of my responses, is there any he objected to or pushed back on? Can you tell what problems, specifically, he's talking about? Or, put another way, Can you tell me what changes Ritchie is saying are needed to meet GA? If you can't answer that, then you'll understand my frustration -- I can't answer that either.
EEng (
talk) 21:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)reply
An image without a caption??! That's like a tequila without the
salt!!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC) or the
lemonreply
Can you please be serious for a bit? Not every image has to have a caption.
WP:CAP When you have a paragraph describing a grand building with monumental steps topped by giant columns, and right next to it is an image of a grand building with monumental steps topped by giant columns, it seems unnecessary to have a caption. What would it say? "Widener Library"? That's helpful.
Then we have a paragraph describing that there are stacks at east, south, and west, and a giant reading room at north. Next to it is a floorplan showing stacks at east, south, and west, and a giant reading room at north. What caption would be needed? "Floor plan showing stacks at east, south, and west, and reading room at north"? What would be the point of that?
So seriously, can you point to any problems?
EEng (
talk) 22:39, 23 January 2015 (UTC)reply
But I feel an untold sorrow about this user.
Hafspajen (
talk) 00:20, 24 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Um, thanks... I guess.
EEng (
talk) 11:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Are you going to help or not? More to the point, can you tell me what about the images or quotes doesn't meet GACR? `
EEng (
talk) 23:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)reply
I refuse to help, naturally. I'd be tempted to give the images captions, even if redundant. But what's Ritchie's
beef with the quotes, exactly? You seem to be mightily at risk of getting your precious article to GA status... but at what
cost?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Well, what do you expect me to do? I gamely took on almost all suggestions, explained why others weren't appropriate, and got no substantive response except, suddenly, "time's up". So, yeah ... what's his beef with the quotes? Can you tell? Anyway, it doesn't matter. Will you review if I renominate, so we can be done with this?
EEng (
talk) 23:21, 23 January 2015 (UTC)reply
You need someone who's actually done a GA review, or at least been through a few, and someone who, quite frankly, doesn't
know your deep failings.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)reply
... and much worse, of course, is the fact that the article is littered with
shy colons.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC) reply
The only qualification for a reviewer is that you've not contributed significantly to the article and are not the nominator. The instructions are
here. The criteria (
WP:GACR) are simple. Please take a look.
EEng (
talk) 23:46, 23 January 2015 (UTC) Just to please you I've added the two captions, stupid as they are.reply
Howdy. My past experiences with the UK
constituent countries (note the link) intro discussions, were unpleasant. I just figured I'd help you avoid any possible headaches ;)
GoodDay (
talk) 00:22, 24 January 2015 (UTC)reply
FWIW, you'll note that the same unecessary linkage is made at
England &
Scotland articles. I won't speculate on who made those linkages & why, however.
GoodDay (
talk) 18:10, 24 January 2015 (UTC)reply
That linkage was correct, IMHO :) I'm opposed to linking to
country. --
GoodDay (
talk) 18:27, 24 January 2015 (UTC)reply
But Scotland is much older, as a country, it seems:
[7].
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:35, 24 January 2015 (UTC)reply
I no longer push for linking to
constituent country in those article leads, with good reason ;) But, I do support your unlinking proposal.
GoodDay (
talk) 18:41, 24 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Can't
wait. "Dod adref i dân go iawn - brynu bwthyn yng Nghymru!"
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:47, 24 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Poor
Eurydice, she nearly made it this time. :)
NebY (
talk) 15:28, 25 January 2015 (UTC)reply
To answer your query - yes, unreferenced information about BLPs could and should be removed from anywhere on Wikipedia.
WP:BLP,
WP:V etc. See also current discussion at
BLPN.
GiantSnowman 12:59, 24 January 2015 (UTC)reply
It's not hard to find sources? Is his participation really in doubt?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:05, 24 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Looks like I failed to find a source for
Bundesliga Young Player of the Year:
2012–13 in the two minutes between your "cleaning" there.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:09, 24 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Easier to leave it all to you, I guess.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:14, 24 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Auschwitz
Hi Martinevans123. I have paraphrased the content, as it was almost identical to the source (only two words were different). --
Diannaa (
talk) 02:59, 28 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi
Diannaa. As ever, thank you for your care and patience. As you know, I often have diffiulty in seeing copyvio in what appear to me as statements of plain fact. I'm left wondering now, if we do limit ourselves to just the two sentences at that article, if that is the most useful or appropriate second sentence. BBC coverage of the memorial has been quite extensive this year.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:29, 28 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks,
Diannaa, for adding the extra detail, which produces just the right balance in my view.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)reply
It struck me as a particularly important anniversary, so I acted on your suggestion. Thanks for the positive feedback. --
Diannaa (
talk) 23:03, 31 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Martin. I have deleted the photo from this article. Good try, but the wrong St Thomas' Church. The church in the article was demolished in 1976, it was near the centre of the city, and did not have a steeple. The aerial view shows that its site is now occupied by housing and called St Thomas' Court. The photo was of an extant church in the outskirts of the city with a steeple. Cheers. --
Peter I. Vardy (
talk) 09:50, 29 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Many thanks Peter and apologies for the nuisance. I should read articles more carefully! Do they hold postcard fairs in Coventry, I wonder...? 1976 not that long ago.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:01, 29 January 2015 (UTC)reply
P
Stori hir, bron diddiwedd, o natur ddifyr ac o bosib yn anwir yw stori asgwrn pen llo. Mae'n debyg i'r ymadroddion Saesneg
shaggy dog story a
cock and bull story.
Hafspajen (
talk) 17:09, 29 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Keyboard on the fritz again?
EEng (
talk) 17:55, 29 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Does it look good on your thing? for me it is chrashing into the section below. I mean it looked better before.
Hafspajen (
talk) 23:27, 29 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Oh, I think you must mean
Gerty? At 100% it looks fine to me. But just an idea anyway. Please revert if you wish. I have to alternate between 100% and something larger with most articles anyway...)
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:33, 29 January 2015 (UTC)reply
One never knows. GERTY??
Hafspajen (
talk) 23:37, 29 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Kevin Spacey as you've never seen him before. An interesting and thought-provoking, low-budget, film which I urge to watch, if you haven't seen it yet.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)reply
"*blush*" ... I do like to see myself as a leading light in the wiki
Aufklärung.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:54, 30 January 2015 (UTC)reply
The leading light in the wiki
Striptease? .. ***puzzled*** - that is of course a fast direct translation of the Swedish Aufklärung- [
avklädning]. Something might have been
lost in translation...
Hafspajen (
talk) 16:47, 30 January 2015 (UTC)reply
marmite-artist-nathan???HUh?
Hafspajen (
talk) 16:44, 2 February 2015 (UTC)reply
I've always wanted to ask... is it true that they no longer use genuine mites in the manufacture of Marmite, and have switched to
boll weevils instead?
EEng (
talk) 12:28, 2 February 2015 (UTC)reply
A vile and outrageous calumny! You'll be telling us all about Marmite's
grocer's apostrophe next!!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:18, 2 February 2015 (UTC) ..... but it is now available in your local Chinese Traditional Healthfood Store as "
Red Velvet Marmite". Yum.reply
"A common material for calumet pipe bowls is red pipestone or
catlinite." Goodness me. Pipe bowls again! That might come in handy elsewhere....
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:08, 2 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Gosh... Culture has unexpected ramifications...
Hafspajen (
talk) 18:14, 2 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks for
adding a sample! (and **** my computer/system/whatever for not being able to handle it). I wish we could add a sample of the legendary battle with Maynard and Clifford
[12] where he's just so refreshingly understated and funny next to these virtuosi of baroque and of grace , particularly in his last four bars. Sorry for spamming you; needed to be shared. ---
Sluzzelintalk 19:57, 23 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Wow, not heard that for a while! How wonderful that is. From Dinah Jams (1954)? (I have nothing of hers, alas). Love how her phrasing isn't resolved with the backing rhythm until more than a minute in. That video montage is a bit random! But yeah superb playing from both. Thanks!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:41, 23 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Random, yep, and that's the album. I like Ferguson here (though he just can't help his stratospheric self) and of course Brownie can never fail, but you're right: Dinah Washington .... sigh ---
Sluzzelintalk 20:51, 23 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, of course it's a three-way contest. To be honest it's a bit like having a bejewelled crown set with three sets of diamonds instead of just one! All a bit overpowering. Personally I'd settle for just Dinah and Terry.
This is just bliss. It's like liquid all-star gold.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:13, 23 February 2015 (UTC) ... smash those vibes, Milt!!! .. and in case you missed it
1 hour 34 of 1967 magic (- assume BBC still owns the copyright, so can't post as external link)reply
(First of all, yes, the annoying randomness in the clip mainly has to do with the fact that
Clifford Brown (of whom we only can fantasize what he might have sounded like becond 25) isn't pictured at all in the montage (the array does start out on the right foot, which makes the later randomness even more annoying). Thank you so much! No, I hadn't ever heard let alone viewed the 1967 gig (nor the wonderful Pennies, and you can't help but adore those 70s suits with Joe Pass etc, omg). I only listened to the first piece of the '67 thingy, and already am enchanted. Dizzy is one of the musicians I so regret never having seen live despite opportunities. As a teenager I had the lucky moment to watch Clark Terry in Lucerne. He also scatted, played an ever accelerating dialogue between trumpet (left hand) and flugelhorn (right hand), and he (charmingly) teased a member of the audience in the front row who had stuck her fingers in her ears in those rare occasions his horn screamed out loud, right in her face! (That audience member was my mother). I will listen to the rest after a night's rest. Thank you for your excellent contributions to music articles, Martin, and have a good night's rest too! ---
Sluzzelintalk 00:23, 24 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Stuart Maconie
I'm not being disruptive. Why are you trying to silence dissent? --
Stuart Maconie's Dad (
talk) 22:19, 4 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Nor am I vandalising Wikipedia. Why are you lying? --
Stuart Maconie's Dad (
talk) 22:21, 4 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Try not to libel living people. And try not to be abusive in your comments. If you do so again, you'll get blocked. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:23, 4 February 2015 (UTC)reply
OK. Did I miss anything? Now, when you're done screwing around with this guy and his father, can you please clean up
Goldblade? Ta very much.
Drmies (
talk) 03:31, 5 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi M. I know edit summaries are so short that they can lead to misunderstanding so I just wanted to show you the paragraph from the source about the fact that MG is only retiring from stage work.
But Sir Michael said he has no plans to put his film and screen career on hold, he announced, amid glowing reviews for his work on hit polar drama Fortitude.
BTW I am watching Fortitude. It is a bit like Broadchurch in the frozen north. In fact if you ever watch it you might want to put on a sweater cause you can feel the chill right through your TV screen. Brrrr. Apologies for any offense in mt edit summary and cheers.
MarnetteD|
Talk 23:41, 9 February 2015 (UTC)reply
No worries. Many thanks for clarifying.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:22, 10 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Cymerir bod och ett misstag kan vända sig till och översätta "Jabberwocky" eller andra dumheter dikter till andra språk, jag feddwl.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:06, 10 February 2015 (UTC)reply
We can all heartily thank Wikipedia for providing the material for Philomena Cunk's "
Moments of Wonder" (not to mention Barry Shitpeas' more enlightened explanations).
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:32, 10 February 2015 (UTC)reply
This looks like
[14] some kind of therapy, after all...
Hafspajen (
talk) 14:02, 10 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Here's a
Sakotis for you! This cake promotes
WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving this cake to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing!
Hafspajen (
talk) 11:54, 10 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah, how delightful, thanks. I can think of a few editors whose throats I'd like to ram some
spikey cake down.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:10, 10 February 2015 (UTC)reply
What a vaguely threatening title! But thanks, that's very thoughtful of you. Well done with the DM singles.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:07, 11 February 2015 (UTC)reply
This is my personal most favourite song of his. It is a famous song he sang called "Because" in English. But he released the same with different lyrics "Mourir auprès de mon amour" in French and "Morir al lado de mi amor" in Spanish. Both French and Spanish roughly mean "to die near my love". Actually he was singing his own death. My love can be interpreted as an actual love or love for all those in the world who loved him. I have now also completed further chart positions for albums. I mean I may have missed some, but whatever I could find in Dutch, German, Spanish, French chart listingsetc. It is so difficult to come up with a definitive listing as he had so many releases sometimes intertwining with each other, plus using different titles in different countries.
werldwayd (
talk) 21:01, 11 February 2015 (UTC)reply
I'm sure you've done an excellent job. Well done.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:03, 11 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Hello, I'm
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I've renominated
Widener Library for GA. Since you've shown some recent interest in it, perhaps you'll take this on. Please, though, avoid the fate of so many GA reviews by clearly separating concerns related to the GA criteria from "extracurricular" concerns that can be addressed after the review is over.
EEng (
talk) 19:50, 14 February 2015 (UTC)reply
I was hoping to escape such an onerous and perilous task! I will try and have a look in the next day or so. Let's hope I can make it shorter than
this one.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:59, 14 February 2015 (UTC)reply
I join you in that hope.
EEng (
talk) 20:14, 14 February 2015 (UTC)reply
I can't help noticing that just about all the points raised at
Talk:Widener Library/GA1 were satisfactorily addressed. I have read the whole of that review in detail and I regard it as having done about 90% of my work, of anyone's work, in a review.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:22, 14 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Agree
One especially for you, for "agree". --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:50, 14 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks. I thought you had mixed Mrs McCarthy with Mrs McGuire from Grantchester which is no more than a Father Brown rip off. This is episode
[15] is one of the best and similar to todays in being heart wrenching with some amusing moments.
REVUpminster (
talk) 19:05, 16 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Whether you like it or not, this is the name of the article. i didn't name it with the manufacturer name. You deleted my edit and put back a redirect, which is wrong, because whenever possible, redirects should be avoided. If you dont like that manufacturer name appears, you could have done
F-16 Fighting Falcon.--
Arado (
talk) 19:24, 16 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, you could have done that too. It's not always necessary to give the full name of the article. If you think it adds to the clarity of the article it appears in, by all means use it. I don't think it does in this case. My likes or non-likes are irrelevant.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:25, 16 February 2015 (UTC)reply
A tragedy!
Tears will flow.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:20, 20 February 2015 (UTC) .... but I strongly doubt it - consensus in very short supply over there, "bro".reply
Hi,
I am new to Wikipedia. I have been asked by Candide Thovex's management team to add historical information to his entry. I have included YouTube videos that illustrate historic moments from his career. In most cases they come from his official YouTube channel, his main sponsor (Quiksilver), or from the channels of the events which are referenced. So, in these cases they are about as valid a source as possible and the only sources available on the Internet. If you have any suggestions as to where I may find more valid sources, please let me know.
Dave Mailman (
talk) 16:01, 21 February 2015 (UTC) Dave Mailmanreply
Hi Dave. Thanks for your message. We have only your word for that. You may need to provide evidence that you have not breached the copyright of the material posted at YouTube, even if it has been posted by "his main sponsor". But even if you do, links to YouTube videos are still not liked at Wikipedia and may be removed at any time. Since you claim to be acting on behalf of "Thovex's management team", you will also need to read
WP:Conflict of interest, as you may not be impartial. A tag might also need to be added to the article talk page to explain your position to other editors. I'll copy this exchange to you Talk Page, for the benefit of other editors. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:23, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Replying in numbered lists
Hi Martin, just a heads-up that you keep breaking the numbering at the Chopin talk page because you're prefixing your replies with ::: instead of #:: -- Gory details at
Help:List#List basics. Regards, --
Stfg (
talk) 16:36, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Many thanks. Do I "keep breaking" it or have I just broken it twice? It's not intentional - I occasionally get it
right.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:47, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
A better approach for you might be to just always do your best to get it wrong (since that seems easiest for you) and then the rest of us will just do the opposite -- sort of an anti-oracle you'd be.
EEng (
talk) 18:13, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah, apologies. It's been broken several times, but I haven't been keeping track of who. Maybe you only "kept" doing it once :) --
Stfg (
talk) 18:11, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Please, don't sob, just follow "beautiful" example. Some would possibly not tolerate a ramp for handicapped, if it distorts the "beauty" of a building. I like
this palace, "built" by ? (hidden in an urn, how fitting), --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 19:13, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha. I must admit I was thinking exactly the same thing. Are we here to "make something beautiful" or to build a useful encyclopedia? But then I use
lazy tags, so I'm probably far too lazy to appreciate
real art.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:22, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Indeed, all useful good points. Like
User:Dr. Blofeld, I've got no particularly strong views. But I'm continually amazed that, while the project as whole seems 100% sold on infoboxes for bio articles in general, and for countless other types of article, it sees it as acceptable to make an exception for classical composers! I just see no
logic there at all.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:41, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Generally I support infoboxes were there is real informational value, but I certainly don't see the point in identiboxes, they're even worse. If we must have an infobox personally I'd prefer it to be detailed with quality facts in them. At one point I remember trying to force an infobox on composer articles and User:Kleinzach and a few others at the classical project went nuts.. I gradually came around to the nice clean look on actors/composers with a simple photograph in Tim and Cassianto's articles.♦
Dr. Blofeld 19:46, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Nuts?? Ah yes, they probably see them as nothing more than
litter.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:50, 21 February 2015 (UTC) ... "Tim and Cassianto"? ... are they like
Gilbert & George? reply
Yes, they were mad that anybody dare touch a composer article with an infobox. I got a serious talking to for adding one! This is why dear Gerda is brave for taking this on! Kleinzach in my experience generally though is not the easiest going chap in the world..♦
Dr. Blofeld 19:59, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
(ec 3 times) There's a
discussion on composers, did you know? - I saw the wall in Berlin in the 1980s and thought that would stay for my life, did you know? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 20:03, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
It's a trio, SchroCat also ;) - I made them a
template ;) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 20:03, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
No idea what blotting means exactly but what you did, lightening up the atmosphere, is worth hymnal music! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 18:02, 22 February 2015 (UTC)reply
If you have a bit of extra time, another test: compare to
Talk:The Rite of Spring. I am biased and would be interested how an unbiased person reacts to it. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 19:18, 22 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah yes, I remember now... running, screaming from the
event. Quite a lengthy production. With many of the same players. And speeches.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:49, 22 February 2015 (UTC)reply
What left me speech-less today is the statement by
an arb (who wasn't then) that eliminating Andy from these discussions "seemed to help with disruption in the area". - (looooong silence) - I became a member of
freedom of speech when I left classical music. - Opera is a different story, I left but joined again this year. All Verdi operas have an infobox, most new operas, most new performers, - a pleasure to watch. Did you know that Andy installed a self portrait when he helped to design {{
infobox opera}} (example 4) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 20:52, 22 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Hahaha. Poor Andy! Gerda you have such wisdom.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:58, 22 February 2015 (UTC)reply
We being on the same side here would be nice. Did you notice the candlid lit scenes in Wolf Hall. Wow.
Ceoil (
talk) 23:54, 27 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha, what a good guess. I added a comment about them in the article.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 00:00, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Well, aparently the candlit shots were very expensive, but didnt draw in sufficient viewers, comprared to say the Tudors soap. Frankly I loved Wolf Hall, as good as the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy eps; so beutifuly shot.
Ceoil (
talk) 00:14, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
I really don't know why they should have been any more expensive. I thought it was just a directorial decision. I found it quite natural and I'm not sure I even noticed it until they were discussing it with
Kirsty Wark after the last episode. Another feature was the portable camera (apparently) But, yes it was beautifully shot. His wife did the music - Rylance was on Desert Island Discs two weeks ago. It seems one of their daughters died on the flight back to UK. How tragic is that. He's a great actor.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 00:23, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
he really is. Re those shots; think Barry Lyndon x about 5!
Ceoil (
talk) 03:42, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Anyway, thanks for the edits; appreciated.
Ceoil (
talk) 09:29, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
I did not, but thankfully the BBC website never disappoints. "In our time" does it for me. I did notice that a great many shots directly referenced his paintings. Joy. I'm guessing Wolf hall might be in the states in a week or two, thnking a DYK might be in order, though I normally shy away from that. You up?
Ceoil (
talk) 13:53, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
"Did you know, did you schknow." We'd have to battle that lunatic
"Gage Library" over an outrageously inappropriate
pun-laden hook.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:46, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
I can out pun any man. Even EE.
Ceoil (
talk) 21:44, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Compared to me you are a rank punter.
EEng (
talk) 21:58, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Martin, he f&*g started it. Fond as I am of EE, its no wonder wiki, and actually the world, is the going to hell in ragged handbag. I feel this is that grave. Hrmpt.
Ceoil (
talk) 22:33, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Well, I could have told you that 20 years ago.
[16]. But nobody listens to me, mumble. Whatever, you fabulous bastard.
Ceoil (
talk) 23:14, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Jihadi John
When the
Lone Ranger rides off into the sunset, someone will inevitably ask
Who was that masked man? In the case of Jihadi John, it was some loser from London who thought that it was OK to kill unarmed civilians. It is interesting that UK government officials told the media off the record that
Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary was a "key suspect", even though this may be wrong.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 14:33, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
We don't really know much at all, due to the professional editing of the IS videos. Some people have suggested that the voice of Jihadi John is dubbed, and in any case we never see the bragging man actually decapitate the victims, as happens in some videos.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 14:47, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
You are totally right. Two essential points that no-one ever seems to mention. Jihadi John is a
grim cult figure. Emwazi is some sad London lad who hit his head on the
metal goalposts.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:51, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, it has been suggested that
Henry VIII of England developed decapitational tendencies after an incident in January 1536 when he was thrown from his horse and spent some time unconscious.
[17] Then again, some people would be capable of doing this anyway.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 14:56, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Blimey! And I just thought he composed
Greensleeves.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC) ... "... once sporty and generous, became cruel, vicious and paranoid, his subjects began talking about him in a new way, and the turnover of his
wives speeded up." (... sounds like some editors I know) "Does my
28 stone look big in
this?"reply
I was watching
BBC News Channel on Thursday, and they were completely confident in claiming this as a scoop. However, The Washington Post is does not confirm this.
[19] The
Washington Post story also stops short of giving a 100% confirmation that Jihadi John is Emwazi, despite what some people have claimed.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 15:52, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Ok, ok,
Ian. The more you reveal, the more I am thinking this was a W.P. scoop that may have embarrassed both Obama and Cameron, and almost the BBC who had to go along with it. Shucks I'm going have to go and
strike out all my robust comments on the JJ Talk page! Or else just wait for the next W.P. revelation....
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:00, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
It has been suggested that the BBC already knew about this from
Cageprisoners, also known as CAGE.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 16:07, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
The BBC's news reports gave considerable weight to
Cageprisoners spokespersons. Maybe - just maybe - they had already heard about Mohammed Emwazi.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 16:29, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Reading between the lines, it looks as though members of CAGE had told the BBC pretty much the same things that they told the Washington Post, but it was the Washington Post that published first.
[20] I'm off, it's been a long day.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 19:43, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks Ian. You deserve a rest. Your thorough research is an inspiration.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:51, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Weird
Here are the Google News UK autocomplete results for "ji" this morning.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 07:10, 3 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I advise you to Bend it like Bullard. Let's not forget those other Jimmies we have all loved, including: Ruffin, Jewell, Osmond, Hendrix, Young, Wales and of course
The Undertones.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:45, 3 March 2015 (UTC) .... and not forgetting
Jimmy the raven who appeared in over 1,000 feature films...reply
Experts declare (
WP:WEASEL) that you can learn a lot by the autocomplete results that come up when certain letters or words are entered into Google Search and the autocomplete results come up. There have been some NSFW/politically incorrect/potentially libellous examples. There was one person with a BLP whose name would produce a range of these results, but I must have had a bang on the head and forgotten which one it was, as I cannot name it here.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 10:40, 3 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah, that gentle American humor! I must get one in ready for next
Christmas.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:25, 4 March 2015 (UTC)reply
To continue my long association with pedantry, this was made for Australian TV. It is a favourite link for Americans, though.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 17:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I tell you I get no respect! I go to the doctor, I tell him "Doc, every time I look in the mirror I want to throw up! What's wrong with me?" The doctor says "Well, its not your eyesight." I tell you I get no respect!--
MONGO 17:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Me too. I tell you I get no respect! I go to the doctor, I tell him "Doc, every time I look in the mirror I want to grow up!"
Hafspajen (
talk) 17:51, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
From the picture you posted above, Hafs, next time you go, I think your doctor needs to look
elsewhere.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:58, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Man: "Doctor, doctor, I feel like a pair of curtains."
I get no respect either! I go to the doc, I say, "doc im having odd dreams. Last night I dreamed I was a wigwam, and then a circus big top" he says "you're just too tense!" No respect from anyone anymore!
Irondome (
talk) 18:11, 28 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Somewhat odd story coming from an "Irondome".
EEng (
talk) 18:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC)reply
That was what finally persuaded me to get one!
Irondome (
talk) 20:28, 1 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks so much for that joke,
Domey, I could see your intent. It reminded me of Christmas about 10 years ago. A real cracker.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:42, 1 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I tell you I get no respect! I go to the doctor I say "Hey doc! I never have sex so how will I ever manage to have a three some!?" The doc says "use both hands!"...budda bum. I tell you I get no respect!--
MONGO 17:55, 1 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I tell you I get no respect! I look at
William Burges, do you see what I see/saw? What kind of consensus is
that? Revealing, --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 20:21, 1 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Remember Dr. Young? And the DYK Hook to End All DYK Hooks --
... that Dr. Young's Ideal Rectal Dilators were abruptly withdrawn after the FDA clamped down on them?
--? Well, I think it's time we got working in that, don't you? I'm still unsure whether we can get past the notability threshold, but I take hope from this
[22] (left column, top) and
[23]. The major problem is that this
[24] is really a primary source -- we'll need something secondary if possible on the FDA action. In fact, these, um, devices were apparently sold through the 50s and maybe the 70s, so we may have to turn the hook around to "not withdrawn despite" etc. Why don't you see if you can come up with anything.
EEng (
talk) 05:13, 2 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I ask the doc, "Hey doc....what's the difference between a rectal thermometer and an oral one? Doc says "The taste".....booo! Lousy joke!--
MONGO 20:27, 3 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Doctor, Doctor I keep getting pains in the eye when I drink coffee.
Sorry, no idea. Not even looking at Main Page! Sticky mouse? But I saw nothing and got no confirmation pop-up. Please disregard.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC) /... just tried to self-revert, but you beat me to it. Many thanks.reply
No worries, I did that myself once; Luckily I knew I did that myself and self reverted.
MadGuy7023 (
talk) 19:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I've done maybe twice in 6 years. But this time no indications that anything had happened. Thanks for telling me, anyway.
For You
The Butterfly AwardBarnstar
Because you are the Butterfly of Wikipedia
Hafspajen (
talk) 18:00, 10 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha yes, how very appropriate. I'm sure
Mr Hamilton would approve. What is the
BBC coming too these days? You'd have thought Jezza could have afforded
20 quid!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:57, 14 March 2015 (UTC)reply
You cannot walk into a hotel at any time of day and demand a meal of your choice, as the Waldorf Salad episode shows. Hollywood stars would get round this problem by having their own catering trucks on location, but whether the BBC licence fee stretches to this is another matter.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 13:07, 14 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Well, when JC (not Jesus Christ, the other one) loses his job and goes over to ITV or Sky, he can have it written into his contract that he has his own catering truck. It's an ill wind...--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 13:41, 14 March 2015 (UTC)reply
When a hotel guest behaves like this, the traditional response is for the staff to pee in the soup and w@nk in the mayonnaise. Needless to say, the staff at the hotel in question are far too cultured to do this sort of thing.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 14:22, 14 March 2015 (UTC)reply
JC (allegedly) wanted a steak. The
Brasserie Menu would have offered this for £21.95 (quite reasonable for a hotel meal IMHO), but it closes at 8:45 PM. JC (allegedly) arrived at 10 PM.
[28]C'est la vie, I suppose.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 15:17, 14 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I'm surprised that none of the mainstream media has pointed this out, as it is only a few mouse clicks away. My local pub chain offers steak meals any time that it is open, and 10 PM would not be a huge problem (mind you, the frozen chips are a bit crap). It is surprising that the brasserie closes at 8:45 PM.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 16:51, 14 March 2015 (UTC)reply
And
here is a steak meal from the pub in question. It was OK but might not have satisfied Jeremy Clarkson, who (allegedly) wanted an "8 oz sirloin with fondant potatoes, pan-fried wild mushrooms, grilled cherry tomatoes and peppercorn sauce."--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 17:04, 14 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I noticed your revert. I hope you don't think I created that mess on
Frankenstein (disambiguation). In fact it was done by
User:173.17.0.226 who has made only one edit as you can see
here and
here. I had corrected a simple spelling error and after a second thought was in the process of fixing the garbage when you jumped in. :)
Jodosma(talk) 21:08, 14 March 2015 (UTC)reply
No worries. Sorry for jumping in. I often do. I could see you were doing batch of corrections to "label".
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:41, 14 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Don't worry - you won't run out with me around!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:01, 15 March 2015 (UTC)reply
A golf girl for you!
Well I'm glad to see there's one other person on here who has heard of In The Land Of Grey And Pink ... I used to play "Golf Girl" at open mics a long time ago, it just fits my voice and the words are quite silly and surreal, and hence easy to remember.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 21:31, 15 March 2015 (UTC)reply
One my favourite albums ever. Just so impeccably English (now this is VERY high praise coming from a Welsh
man!) I have yet to hear "the 5.1 thingy" for this album, but if it's anything like what's been done with
Talking Heads, it's probably a revelation.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC) p.s. can
Morgan Pressel sue for that?reply
ALSO, there's that really distinctive organ sound (hard to believe it's a Hammond, but I guess it must be) that goes thorough all the Canterbury stuff - Hatfield and the North, Robert Wyatt, Soft Machine, etc, etc. - if you know what I mean. Just magic.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:18, 15 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I heard this album in my formative years and I thought, "wow, so you can have rock that's not got huge pounding guitar riffs, but has some kind of enchanted woodland feel to it!" (... and then I heard Pink Floyd and realised you can actually have both). But I've always been very partial to that organ sound.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:38, 15 March 2015 (UTC) ... "Instrumentally, David Sinclair's fuzztone Hammond organ sound is a key ingredient of the early Caravan albums and his playing is the dominant instrument on them." apparently ... reply
Given that the band comes from round these parts, there something of local heroes I guess. I saved
Jim Leverton from AfD (or was it just a rejected AfC?) who's played with them, and I've met a few of
Rocky and the Natives, a local band that
Geoff Richardson plays in when he's not Caravanning. PS: The 2001 CD reissue sleeve notes say the first date of recording was 14 September 1970. If that's an unreliable source then ik ben een Neelander. Umm....
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 23:23, 15 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I think maybe Dave Grinstead and his cannon deserve a mention in the text??
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:11, 16 March 2015 (UTC)reply
IIRC the CD sleeve notes don't say anything other than his mention in the credits, so what's there is cited almost verbatim. However, my notes for If I Could Do It All Over Again... credit Pye Hastings with "impersonation of a friendly gorilla", so when I get round expanding that, it should definitely go in!
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 21:37, 16 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Not too far off GA, this now, I think. Just a reliable source citing the trombone and a few other citations and I think we're there.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 22:19, 18 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I always felt a bit uncomfortable with the line "illuminates the breasts of four young girls" in "Winter Wine", and post
Yewtree, it just sounds plain perverse.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 16:33, 19 March 2015 (UTC)reply
That reminds me of a bad joke, a bloke goes onto a beach with Jimmy Savile and Gary Glitter. His mate looks at him and says, "you idiot, I said bring a pair of _s_peedos!
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 17:36, 19 March 2015 (UTC)reply
What did Margaret Thatcher and Jimmy Savile have in common?
They both shafted miners in the 1980s.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:43, 19 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Cervantes
"Britannica fairy-dust" – good one!
Sca (
talk) 14:54, 18 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Should be using "Enciclopedia Iberica", of course.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:02, 18 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Or, I understand pre-1990 copies of
this one are going cheap these days.
Sca (
talk) 15:48, 18 March 2015 (UTC)reply
"Whatever happened to Leon Trotsky? ... dear old Lenny? ... the great Elmyra, and Sancho Panza?"
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:30, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
[29]reply
And talking of
strangling someone, I'm not going to bother at ITN any more, since the Encyclopedia Britannica is apparently just a "
lame mirror of Wikipedia" (how and when did that happen??) that can't be used too many times in the same article section. And no-one can explain objectively (let alone write down somewhere) how good an article has to be to be linked from
the Main Page. So now we have a lovely Cervantes
patchwork quilt. Apparently it's "the very antithesis of a "quality article"". So hardly worth pissing on, even if it were on fire.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:56, 19 March 2015 (UTC)reply
This just in to the ITN newsroom: Miguel de Cervantes is
still dead.Sca (
talk) 16:00, 19 March 2015 (UTC)reply
And exactly what are you implying, Mr Anon!?? How very dare you! As if I have ever been seen in a multicoloured tricorn hat
with bells on!!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:27, 20 March 2015 (UTC)reply
What did you miss in: joy in the effort of "awakening"? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 13:20, 20 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Well, I'm partly of
Swabian descent. Does that explain it?
Sca (
talk) 13:57, 20 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, it does. Would now somebody bold see what I tried to awake, and perhaps do it? There should now be no serious objection, just I can't do it myself, --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 14:04, 20 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Ich bin verwirrt.
Sca (
talk) 14:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Faulpelz seem to be strictly for men, no idea what a lazy woman would be called. He (Siegfried) has not seen a woman before, his mother died when giving birth, and he was raised only by a male dwarf. Nonetheless, he will kiss this woman and then she wakes up for "Everything you can sing I can sing louder" and "Love on the rocks" (see
Anna Russell). - Anyway, look at
Don Giovanni, back to Mozart, --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 15:24, 20 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Why
Gerda, a Faulpelzin, of course!
Sca (
talk) 17:57, 20 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I'd certainly never wish to "chain men to machine-readable data", I can assure you.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:38, 20 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Dear
Dr. Young as if I would ever dignify such mindless twaddle outrageous threats with any response.... D'oh!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:33, 20 March 2015 (UTC)reply
By "mindless twaddle," did you perhaps mean
cruft?Sca (
talk) 12:46, 21 March 2015 (UTC)reply
THat terrible woman in yellow shorts is still there.
Anti-Yellow shorts (
talk) 18:28, 26 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, sorry about that, might be a while before she "takes off" .... nice
club though, don't you think?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:44, 26 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I would have said more of a "
plain Jane". How grumpy can you get! But I'd have thought any post that begins i am women ought to be treated with more than a little caution.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:15, 27 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Um, did you persist to the second bit of the diff?
EEng (
talk) 13:19, 27 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Hello, Martinevans123. You have new messages at
Hafspajen's talk page. You can
remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
As if I'd ever be taken in by this "old chestnut", Hafs ....
D'oh!!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:02, 1 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Oh, Really? What were you doing on my page then?
--
Hafspajen (
talk) 20:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Baking shop in Scottsdale
Hi. See my last note on the revision. Doesn't belong in the same list of major corporations. It's a small baking shop. You could put it at the beginning of the Culture section, mentioning it in the same way as the MTV episode is mentioned. Where you currently put it is
WP:UNDUE.
Onel5969 (
talk) 13:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Fine. Deleting something wholesale, because it's deemed to be "non-notable", is not quite the same as simply re-locating it because it's
WP:UNDUE. Does everything else in that sectiom have a supporting source?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:29, 1 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Deleting something because it's non-notable is perfectly acceptable. And where you were inserting it, it was clearly not notable. In it's current location, you could add a citation, but since their is a wikilink to the article, which clearly shows it was a tv episode, you might not even need a citation.
Onel5969 (
talk) 13:48, 1 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Your edit summary told me categorically that it was non-notable and unsourced. Might have been easier to just put it in the right place? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:51, 1 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, it would have been easier for you to put it in the right place. I don't think it belongs in the article at all. I think references like that (in this and other articles) make the subject seem less important. By putting trivial stuff in articles, it makes the subject seem desperate to be noticed, which in my opinion, this article does not need. Take it easy.
Onel5969 (
talk) 13:59, 1 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah, right. Teaching me a lesson. I can assure you that I would never have heard of Scottsdale if it had not been for dear
Gordon Ramsay. Now I wish I hadn't.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:04, 1 April 2015 (UTC)reply
What, only the
7th?? I'll sit this one out, I think.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:37, 1 April 2015 (UTC)reply
All the fun of the fair
Thank you for your 'subtle' thanks to me. I like to think I have a long tether, but some days it does get stretched beyond reality. Cheers and regards,
I'm sure I would have responded in the same, or possible more "colourful", way. Now run along and be a little more careful with your use of capital letters, would you? Thanks, so much.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:56, 2 April 2015 (UTC)reply
....................
Postal code..............not sacred cod and whatnot.
Hafspajen (
talk) 04:07, 7 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Then there's always the Spanish word for "year" for those of us without a tilded n on our keyboards and who can't be arsed to type unicode. Works well when asking someone how old they are in Spanish.
Softlavender (
talk) 04:12, 7 April 2015 (UTC)reply
In other news
One of ME's easter-eggs above reminded me of an ambition I've had for some time: to bring
Hell, Norway to GA, thus qualifying it for DYK. The mind boggles at the orgy of potential hooks e.g. "Temperatures in Hell can reach −25 °C (−13 °F) during winter", "There are just over 1300 people in Hell", "The road to Hell is paved with...", "There are frequent daily tours of Hell", "Miss Universe 1990 was from Hell", that kind of thing. Who wants to help?
EEng (
talk) 04:36, 7 April 2015 (UTC)reply
OK; we try. More people can go to hell, I knew one personally, who is dead now. Hope this can be the way. Though, my skills are on the illustrative side.
Hafspajen (
talk) 12:10, 7 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Happy Easter
Happy Easter
Happy Easter.... long time. Atgyfododd Crist! Atgyfododd yn wir!
Hafspajen (
talk) 19:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC)reply
I am curious about this statement, simply because I haven't heard that phrase before in reference to airliner accidents: "I think there may be a 'control gradient' in the final moments of an aircraft crash."
If you can spare the time, I would greatly appreciate your explaining what that sentence means. Thanks,
EditorASC (
talk) 01:19, 6 April 2015 (UTC)reply
It's simply the idea that the aircraft is not wholly "under control" until the moment it's "out of control". Rather that the pilot's inputs are still having an effect, but are having less and less of an effect, until there is catastrophic failure (or collision). It's a bit simplistic, I'm afraid. And in the era of fly-by-wire, this may be rather brief and may not be easy to see. If the aircraft is aerodynamically unstable, it may be very brief indeed. That's all.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks much for the prompt reply. Now that I understand what you meant, my next question (again, if you can spare the time -- if not, then I won't be offended if you do not reply further) is if you are aware of any official accident report, or other documents from the FAA, or equivalent regulatory authorities, that discuss that "control gradient" concept. It would be an important report to add to my library, if I can find it.
EditorASC (
talk) 18:09, 6 April 2015 (UTC)reply
P.S. As to an airliner being "aerodynamically unstable," right now I can think of only two: The MD-11 and the B-727 at higher altitudes (dutch roll problem). If you know of others, I would appreciate that kind of info too. Cheers.
LOL! Well thanks for your help. I'll give it a go with those names combined with human factors research. I might find some real interesting stuff, enjoying the search in the process, because human factors in the airline industry has been a subject I have been deeply interested in for many years. Cheers.
EditorASC (
talk) 22:19, 6 April 2015 (UTC)reply
In the Land of Grey and Pink has been nominated for Did You Know
Hello, Martinevans123.
In the Land of Grey and Pink, an article you either created or significantly contributed to, has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's
Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you.
APersonBot (
talk!) 17:13, 7 April 2015 (UTC)reply
You're one of the few whose comment actually make me LOL.
EEng (
talk) 12:55, 15 April 2015 (UTC)reply
That is very gratifying and, of course, all I ever aim for. I wish more editors had a sense of homour like yours (or even a just sense of humour at all.) I guess if one's ego gets so big, there's simply no room for one. I've been enjoying your image gallery lately. Some real gems there.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:38, 15 April 2015 (UTC) p.s. I would certainly never claim to have "diverged from chimps." reply
Ah yes, I must have missed all those "tell-tale signs of someone trying to use constructions and language that he doesn't really understand." Probably because I didn't understand them.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:13, 17 April 2015 (UTC) reply
Aghast! "Not ending a sentence with a preposition is a bit of arrant pedantry up with which I will not
put!"
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:23, 17 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Said the boy (tired of the same bedtime stories about Australia all the time) to his father: "What did you bring that book, which I do not wish to be read to from about Down Under, up for?"
EEng (
talk) 22:26, 17 April 2015 (UTC)reply
I think of my user page as being for the select few. BTW, it never occurred to me that "they" would actually let this stay, but it has.
[36]EEng (
talk) 15:42, 15 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, a beautiful choice. He opened this thread.Hope he comes back when he's ready.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:02, 17 April 2015 (UTC)reply
my choice of the options under
Traum... including your moorish, and don't miss the lead image and the cat, --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:41, 17 April 2015 (UTC)reply
I've just figured out who you remind me of, with your quirky and funny sense of humour:
Paul Merton, from Have I Got News for You. Please stick (and keep your jokes around too), you're one of my favourite editors. Thank you!
1Potato2Potato3Potato4 (
talk) 16:50, 18 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha, lol. And you have one of the most inspiring user names I have ever seen! But thanks so much. I was listening to Paul
on the radio only this morning. He's a witty guy.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:16, 18 April 2015 (UTC)reply
I loved how he tried to defuse Hislop and Prescott on HIGNfY yesterday, but I find your humour so similar! All the best,
1Potato2Potato3Potato4 (
talk) 17:19, 18 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Not in the slightest, as far as I know. But one could easily imagine he is, I think.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:55, 18 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Soldier at a Game of Chess
Hello Martinevans123, I just thought I would let you know that I've nominated Soldier at a Game of Chess for DYK. Let me know what you think of the hook, if you have the time. Thanks in advance. :-)
Coldcreation (
talk) 15:08, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
I'd probably be tempted to put "while he was mobilized during WWI...". And of course the hook begs the question of having an article on
Crystal Cubism itself!. All in good time, I guess.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:16, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Perhaps some editors might object that the hook is too strong, as the article says only: "It has been suggested that this work was painted during his mobilization, or shortly thereafter."
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:26, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Excellent points. I'll see what I can do. Thanks.
Coldcreation (
talk) 19:48, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
It's a wonderful article and I can see you've put a lot of work into it. Very well done.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:52, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Accidental rollback
I'm sorry, I just accidentally used the rollback function on one of your comments at ITN/C. Please accept my sincere apologies.
AtHomeIn神戸 (
talk) 15:21, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
I'm actually quite grateful, as you prompted me to correct my spelling. Thanks for the note.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:22, 21 April 2015 (UTC) ... it's a shame that the "Notification" flag could not self-cancel if it saw that a revert had been reverted!reply
Request for mediation rejected
The
request for formal mediation concerning Honorific nicknames in popular music, to which you were listed as a party, has been
declined. To read an explanation by the Mediation Committee for the rejection of this request, see the
mediation request page, which will be deleted by an administrator after a reasonable time. Please direct questions relating to this request to the
Chairman of the Committee, or to the
mailing list. For more information on forms of dispute resolution, other than formal mediation, that are available, see
Wikipedia:Dispute resolution.
Thanks for telling me. If only I knew what it was about.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:54, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Edit warring
What you are doing on
Talk:April 2015 Mediterranean Sea migrant shipwrecks is an edit war. While I agree that your reverts on the article proper were justified, there is no reason to revert the talk page comment, and certainly no reason to do it repeatedly. Just refute what he says and be done with it. --
ThaddeusB (
talk) 21:03, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
The "contributor" you are defending is a vandal and has now been blocked. So you may have to wait a while to get a reply at the Talk Page. I don't particularly enjoy being called a "fucker", even in Italian.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:15, 21 April 2015 (UTC) ... care to translate this quaint edit summary "hai rotto i coglioni brutto stronzo". Hmmm.reply
Gosh, you have a response almost immediately! Whatever can that mean?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:19, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Um, I didn't defend anyone. Take a step back and relax - his crappy behaviour does not justify repeatedly removing his talk page comment. Just explain the way things work on Wikipedia and move on. Simple. Edit warring accomplishes nothing. --
ThaddeusB (
talk) 21:24, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah yes, simple. And you want me to "move on", yeah? I think that multiple sock should have been blocked after his third edit. But what do I know. Did you enjoy the translation?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:29, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
First of all, it's a
dynamic IP, which is rather different than intentional sock puppetry. Second, of course he deserved to be blocked. Finally, you are free to ignore my advice all you want. I am just saying you accomplish nothing by working yourself up about what some idiot on the internet wrote, and you accomplish nothing by repeatedly reverting him, especially on a talk page. You'll save yourself a lot of stress by reverting a couple time, requesting a block or page protection if that doesn't work, and then moving on. --
ThaddeusB (
talk) 21:39, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Shucks, and I thought it was my Talk Page. I didn't see anyone else keen to revert what I thought was mindless persistent vandalism (partly in Italian). But who's "worked up"? I just don't particularly want comments like "Hai rotto il cazzo loro erano e sono clandestini non sono migranti" at the top of my Talk Page. But thanks for your concern.
Martinevans123 (
talk)
I was referring to the reasonable comment (minus the edit summaries) left at article talk page, not anything on your talk page. --
ThaddeusB (
talk) 21:57, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah yes, all so simple. Not
connected in any way.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:58, 21 April 2015 (UTC) Why not give me warning and haul me off to
WP:AN/I while you're at it?reply
You quite clearly violated 3RR. The IP insulting you on your talk page does not give you the liberty to repeatedly revert an attempt to express his opinion about article content at the article talk page. If I wanted to block you, I wouldn't need to take it to ANI, but go on thinking I was unreasonable for even daring to point out your obvious policy violation if you like. --
ThaddeusB (
talk) 01:27, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Too kind. So that was all good content added to the article as well, was it? And of course not "intentional sockpuppetting", just a nasty coincidence caused by a dynamic ip. Perhaps you'd prefer me just to retire? -- Ever yours,
Disgusted of Monza and Brianza (
talk) 08:46, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Only in Martin's LSD world do personal attacks arrive in Italian.
EEng (
talk) 23:26, 21 April 2015 (UTC)reply
While one might argue that being serious on Martin's page is an exercise in futility, if an IP were to arrive in a conversation I was involved in and make obscene comments about my parentage, my scatological habits and alleged claims of masturbatory behaviour, I would think "well it takes one to know one", laugh, and
ignore it.
Works every time.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 11:45, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
ThaddeusB, the first edit that the Italian blocked IP editor made to the migrant ships article was
this one, in which they wrote, "the motherfucker rotto in culo Matteo Renzi said "F**k y'all italian, i don't give a f**k of y'alls". Subsequent edits - all of which were reverted by Martin - were similar, reinstating lines that included "if they want to migrate in my f**kin' country they must enter legally", with edit summaries such as "don't touch my shit"
[37] and "you are a fucker"
[38] directed towards Martin. It would be peculiar for any editor to conclude anything other than that this is a vandal who will be blocked, and as I understand it, all contributions by blocked editors can be removed, so it doesn't seem to me that Martin has done anything against policy. However even if you believe that, strictly and technically speaking, Martin has broken some rule, it seems to me that for him to do so in this context is wholly reasonable, whereas for you to come to his talkpage to lecture him seems rather unreasonable, not to mention unfeeling. Did you think to thank him for trying to keep the article clean of all that "fuckers" etc.? Or would you have preferred he went through the lengthier processes of page protection etc., and let the "fuckers" etc. remain? I suggest that rather than picking on valued and productive editors like Martin, you instead concentrate on just blocking the vandals. Comments such as "If I wanted to block you, I wouldn't need to take it to ANI" are crass and belittling; if that's the kind of 'reward' Martin gets for tackling vandals, I'm not surprised that he has removed himself from the project (hopefully only temporarily).
PaleCloudedWhite (
talk) 12:29, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Besides, if anyone's going to block Martin, they need to get in the orderly queue, right behind me.
The Rambling Man (
talk) 12:34, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
No, me first.
EEng (
talk) 12:50, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Look, nobody is to block anyone until I blow this whistle! Even, and I want to make this absolutely clear, even if they do say "Jimbo"!
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 13:50, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Martin's wikibreak notice refers to vandals
[39] but he's being too gentle. The real reason we may lose this valuable contributor is another high-handed lecture from an admin more concerned with form than substance. Good going.
EEng (
talk) 13:02, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Alright, shall I jump in? I just had coffee and a piece of chocolate cake so I'm ready for anything. All of you are right, though some are maybe less wrong than others. I agree with Thaddeus's comment ("let it go"--and let the admins handle it), while I understand Martin's response perfectly. I read Thaddeus's comment not as a warning but as advice; it seems obvious to me, though, that the spirit in which the comment was intended was not the spirit in which it was received, and that's understandable considering what Martin was called by the Italian IP. As an admin, I have to say that the many reverts weren't a good choice, since the content itself wasn't so bad, even if the edit summaries were unacceptable--which points at blocking, yes, as Thaddeus says, but doesn't necessitate reverting, since the edit summaries aren't "on" the talk page, so to speak. So sure, it was a violation of policy, technically, and I would have let it slide just like Thaddeus did, and I would probably have left a similar note as well, though I think it's always a good idea to include a beer or a piece of chocolate-covered bacon with such a note. (This sentence is not a run-on.)
I hope Martin will come back soon, that the anger will subside, and that both editors understand they're the good guys. And let's not lose track of what really matters. None of us are drowned, and none of us (I suppose, I hope) had to flee our homes in the way these folks did, for the reasons that they did. Our job at Wikipedia is to report the facts, all the facts, and do it properly. Can I sidetrack? A few years ago I had the good fortune to attend a reading by
James Zwerg (look him up for context), who was asked if he saw progress since the Civil Rights movement. He was quite adamant that it was ongoing and focused on "illegal immigration" immediately, saying emphatically, "there are no illegal immigrants" (a statement no doubt inspired by his own life, his particular brand of Christianity, and his blatant disregard for bureaucratic, political language that denies basic human rights and decency: a higher law). Martin, we could use your help. Thanks,
Drmies (
talk) 14:52, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
My comment was indeed intended as advice, not a warning, and I only responded further to clarify. Obviously I failed... Like everyone else, I hope Martin returns after he has a chance to cool off. However, I think some of you are completely missing my point here. When established editors are treated with immunity to the point where someone even commenting on their policy violations is viewed with contempt, then there is something wrong with Wikipedia. When edits like
[40][41] are reverted because of the editor's article edits, that is quite clearly not proper. Yes, the article edits were bad, but taking it to the talk page is exactly what someone is supposed to do. Only after Martin chose to remove the (legitimate) talk page comment did the insults here & at the article talk page start. If he had just responded to the comment instead of deleting it (or ignored it if he didn't want to respond), things probably would have never escalated as far as they did. --
ThaddeusB (
talk) 16:36, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
"The troll here are you. I'm not a xenophobic or racist, so someone ban this troll." Some might see that as a
little inappropriate for a talk page discussion? But it seems you don't, as you've not challenged it in any way. Perhaps because it's not grammatically correct? And of course, it's still unclear if that was all one person, enjoying their personal journey of abuse and disruption, or several different persons all located in Milan. I guess we'll never know. But I'm just off to the shops for some early
lo shopping di Natale.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:00, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Obviously I can't link to
this, since that would be a copyvio, wouldn't it? That's two fucking heroes, right there, of the kind that seems to be in short supply.
Drmies (
talk) 14:55, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
A good one, thank you. SG?
Emma Ayres, Bratschistin und spätere Hörfunkmoderatorin, radelte allein von England nach Hongkong. (German Main page today and tomorrow), translated in memory of
GFHandel, who - as a consequence of a certain discussion on Bach - phrased a little more explicitly what you compared to the freezing of hell. (DYK that
another editor said "would be a cold day in hell" about arbcom apologizing to a victim?) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 08:22, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, I'm thinking of "doing an Eric" and not editing on any day of the week that ends in a "y".
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:04, 22 April 2015 (UTC)reply
DYK ... that a church's 1510 spiral of justice(pictured) declares: "Justice suffered in great need. Truth is slain dead. Faith has lost the battle"? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 12:49, 23 April 2015 (UTC)reply
You've marked this file as free with the rationale "the copyright holder has granted permission for this image to be used in Wikipedia". Unless you can prove that Decca / Universal really have submitted an OTRS ticket for the sample, this is not the case. See
File:Firth of Fifth.ogg for an acceptable fair use rationale.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 10:31, 24 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks. I should probably be blocked for such a transgression. I had thought the wizard always added a fair use rationale (and I'm not sure why it doesn't.) Can anyone add that or only the uploader?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Anyone can edit the file and put a valid FUR in. I don't know why the wizard doesn't do that. File copyrights are probably the most confusing thing on Wikipedia and the easiest way to bite newbies, as anything that doesn't comply with copyrights has to be nuked ASAP, no questions asked.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 10:59, 24 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Oh dear. I think I may need revisit all of my audio sample uploads in the near future.... I've reverted it from the article for now - you might wish to tweak it a bit and re-add it, if you think it's good enough. I must say your description for the "Firth of Fifth" sample looks like a Masters thesis compared with my hasty back-of-fag-packet scrawl. As per my edit summary, I'd be happy to construct any alternate/others from Land of Grey and Pink, if you have strong suggestions.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:10, 24 April 2015 (UTC)reply
I should be able to cobble something together for a sample of "Nigel Blows A Tune" from "Nine Feet Underground" showing the Hammond going at full blast. Oh, a while back I mentioned I had a gig that had a Hammond at the venue ... turns it out it was a C-3 with a Leslie 147 (?) and at times it sounded just like David Sinclair's solos. Uncanny. Somebody had a camera so hopefully pictures will leak out.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 11:18, 24 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, I'm sure we'll all be eagerly thumbing through copies of Hello! and Harper's Bazaar, while we're down at the salon, hoping for a glimpse, dearie. Meanwhile I'd appreciate any corrections you could make to the ogg file, to show me clearly where I am going wrong. I always try and target tracks that are at least 5 minutes long, as anything less than a 30-second sample always seems a bit futile.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:09, 24 April 2015 (UTC)reply
The FUR is okay now, but personally I think you might be better off with a composite of the track - 10 seconds of Richard's singing with acoustic, cross-faded into the start of a stereotypical David Hammond solo. I'm afraid my Mac has died so I've lost all my mp3s, so I'll have to work out where exactly the CDs are buried, so that might be an easier task for you to do as things currently stand.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 11:53, 27 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Goodness me, that sounds like a bit of a
complicated game! I'd be happy to upload another - just give me the track and the times. Is there a limit on the number of samples one should add for a single album article?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:12, 27 April 2015 (UTC)reply
There's no hard limit, but for an album like this you're probably better off with one. Always remember that non-free content is against
one of the principles of Wikipedia so using it is very much a privilege, and if people think the audio can be represented equally well as text, that'll take priority.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 12:29, 27 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Personally, I've never understood how music can be equally represented by text as by audio. Even 30 seconds is usually a severe challenge to me. Oh well, at least we've got a basic sample for now, at least until you find your CDs!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:38, 27 April 2015 (UTC)reply
I really don't know. Now you mention it, I've not seen him for quite a while. I hope all is well.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:59, 27 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Just wanted to appreciate his efforts, including yours and the way you both looked EEng after. You may want to read
WP:ARC#Admin tool misuse: Bgwhite, I have mentioned both incidents of his first 2 blocks. We might have solved a lot of problems if we had taken some serious action then. Still never too late.
OccultZone (
Talk •
Contributions •
Log) 23:20, 27 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Martin, have you forgotten?
[43]EEng (
talk) 00:06, 28 April 2015 (UTC)reply
I do hope he's ok and that he will be back soon. He should take as long he needs, of course.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:31, 28 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Rode Hall, Mow Cop
The source I used gave 1812, but you're right, the
Mow Cop Castle and
Primitive Methodism articles both give 1807. Both seem to be cited using more authoritative sources, so I'll update it to 1807 and change the source.
Sotakeit (
talk) 09:31, 29 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Many thanks. I'm intrigued as to where they got the year 1812.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:39, 29 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Sacks
Doing it
this way is still copyvio, since the sentence structure (with a minor quote) was exact ... the author needs his own article anyway, so I shortened the whole thing. We don't need that much detail on Hayes in Sacks' article. Bst,
SandyGeorgia (
Talk) 12:39, 4 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Poor old Ollie, eh? He waits 75 years before he "allows himself to fall in love" and then even that subtlety is swept away here in the cause of avoiding copyvio. I'd never have thought I'd be giving credit to Vanity Fair for the delicacy of their writing, but your ruthlessly efficient tidy-up has proved me wrong. I'd agree we wouldn't want so much detail about Hayes, if he had an article. But he doesn't. And until he does, I would have thought a mere 12 words would be at least instructive. Still, I guess if the article is, as you say, "still dreadful", then no-one will really notice. Not least poor Oliver.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:40, 4 May 2015 (UTC)reply
The Vanity Fair article gave the fellow a sentence. And didn't even tell us where that relationship ended, so to me, the whole thing is undue sensationalism, until/unless someone reads the book and figures out if there is more worth saying. If someone cares that much, they could write his article! Vanity Fair writes a whole article on Sacks, but Wikipedia-- true to form-- cherrypicks one sensational tidbit.
SandyGeorgia (
Talk) 20:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)reply
I'm not sure it's "sensational". I found it rather touching. But maybe that was the best bit. I guess we'll see.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:33, 4 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Maybe you are interested in getting the book? I don't like the "teaser" aspect of the writeup-- it may get you to buy the book, and that's what that edit did :)
SandyGeorgia (
Talk) 20:57, 4 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha, now I understand! A tasty little bit of (very subtle) Vanity FairKnopf promo work, eh? You lucky thing, I'm very envious. I would get the book, but I'm too busy reading up about Jeremy Vine's
basketball career break. But feel free to send me one of your free copies.
B. Twaddle123 (
talk) 21:02, 4 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Seriously! Glad you see it now. They hint at a relationship, but tell us nothing ... was there even a relationship? Or just an infatuation? Does this guy even belong in Sacks' article? For that matter, is it a BLP vio? We have to buy the book to found out! Only on Wikipedia ... so better for someone who cares to write an article on the fellow. (That would not be me :) Bst,
SandyGeorgia (
Talk) 21:07, 4 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah, you never know... maybe VF will do a feature on Billy Hayes and you'll be tempted to buy his autobiography. I'm sure there's a lot more material in that Sacks article that could be used to expand the article, without the need to buy the book at all.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:31, 4 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Is it ego?
Hi Martinevans123, what is the reason you resist my attempt to simplify and combine your edit into the previous paragraph? As you can imagine, new information has appeared dozens of times for this event. Every time it does, we haven't been adding it to the article into a new paragraph with the date, that would be too laborious to read. (I am not new to this article; I have been one of the primary editors of this article from the beginning.)
Prhartcom (
talk) 13:04, 6 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Whose ego are we discussing here? Lubitz's? I must be "new to the article", or perhaps not "one of the primary editors"?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC)reply
I think it's delightful. What article?
EEng (
talk) 20:16, 11 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Just some very dodgy piece of fancrufted-synthetic-blog-rambling I stumbled across the other day. Don't worry about it - it's bound to get RfD-ed!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:31, 11 May 2015 (UTC) ... but I agree, a great video and very inventive lyric!reply
Hahahahahaha. Thanks so much. A very plausible alternative explanation of course, although I couldn't say definitively that the guy in the toilet was actually the captain.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:21, 6 May 2015 (UTC) But, wow - you get so much legroom and such a generous aisle width! Is that club class or business, I wonder? Almost as tempting as those foxy
Air Dorisesreply
For your arrival at heated discussions where you inject much needed humour. I have found myself chuckling at some of your recent comments to do with UKIP and the Moors Murders; especially
here and
here. Cheers! CassiantoTalk 19:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks so much. Ah, I love
UK General Elections, don't you? They always seem to bring out the
best in people.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:29, 6 May 2015 (UTC) (... hoping you might find audio Python more acceptable.) reply
It's the loonies who stand as independents who I like. When I was a kid living in
a small village in Essex, there was a woman who walked her pet duck every morning around the roads. She lived off the land and made nettle soup, wild berry pie and, on the odd occasion, ate fresh(ish) road kill as a treat. She ended up standing for the
Greens where she just dipped the majority vote. I still think the votes she received were people taking the piss out of her without her actually knowing it. Also, it's good to see a certain, recent editor who cropped up at the Moors Murder talk page,
turn up after 35 seconds and offer his opinion on Farage. We suspected it all along of course. CassiantoTalk 19:49, 6 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Better translation in the circumstances, I agree. But if you haven't yet encountered marc, sip with caution … great caution.
Awien (
talk) 18:18, 8 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Talking about ballet: not without irony that now
"my Romeo" is in DYK position 1, matching the dancer on my talk (great woman, RIP). Found an excellent image of him today, look for Cranko Era. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:57, 8 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Just the 2015 one by the look of it. Referring to UK elections by their number appears to be rather unique to Wikipedia; we probably shouldn't be doing it.
Alakzi (
talk) 21:44, 10 May 2015 (UTC)reply
lol, u gotta love
Krishnan Guru-Murthy - "he ain't cool 'cos he ain't got no hat". Pharrell's very articulate isn't he, (apart from that
sheep reference, of course). If you think moving the article back makes it all fine again - by all means, go ahead. I'm stepping back from this one!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:46, 10 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Relax
Don't like my wording? Well then fix it to your liking. Don't like a source? Well then find ones that satisfy you. You can help out you know.
Cadencool 22:03, 11 May 2015 (UTC)reply
I did fix it. Even if you like something, it's sometimes possible to improve it? That's how Wikipedia works, isn't it? Any my edit summary "needs better source" applied to
my own addition - previously there was no source at all. On second thoughts, I've taken that link out, as copyright is not clear. Now that you're here, what else would you like to scold me for?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:40, 12 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes it's always possible to improve edits and yes that is how it works around this madhouse. Thanks for fixing it, it's much better than the way I wrote it, that's for sure. As for your edit summary, I read it wrong I must admit. Apologies for that.
Cadencool 20:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)reply
How on earth is adding "<ref>[WW2 Langham training dome restoration complete]</ref> a reference/citation?
Wikipedia:Citing sources states "A full citation fully identifies a reliable source and, where applicable, the place in that source (such as a page number) where the information in question can be found. For example: Rawls, John. A Theory of Justice. Harvard University Press, 1971, p. 1. This type of citation is usually given as a footnote, and is the most commonly used citation method in Wikipedia articles."
Also above where your "reference" is, the article says "The concrete structure has been restored and a museum has been installed" so you're just repeating something already said in the article.
Do you want the reference details or not (it's easily done by a
User:Dispenser/Reflinks)? You think all references have to have a page number? You think that adding sources which match the material in an article is " just repeating something already said in the article"?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:05, 17 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Saying "<ref>[WW2 Langham training dome restoration complete]</ref>" is not a reference.
If you are trying to reference some part of the following section in the article "Langham Dome, which sits on the edge of the former base, is one of only six remaining training domes in the country and was built in 1942. Film of enemy planes was projected onto its walls for target practise. The concrete structure has been restored and a museum has been installed, following grants from English Heritage and the Heritage Lottery Fund", you need to say where you got the information from such as a book, website or anything else that is reliable like a plaque from an appropriate group/company.
The book reference was just an example from a Wikipedia policy.
Gavbadger (
talk) 17:16, 17 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Do you ever make mistakes? I've now corrected it.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:18, 17 May 2015 (UTC)reply
George Ewart Evans
Hi, I'm a bit puzzled that you've thrown out the image of
George Ewart Evans that I've loaded with an NFUR - obviously it'll soon be deleted if we don't restore it. I think it a strong, characterful portrait of the man. Is he one of your relatives? If so, perhaps that would explain why you have marked the 'new' image as "own work" despite its also being "from an exhibition at the Museum of East Anglian Life, Stowmarket, Suffolk"? If you don't own the copyright, it'll be a candidate for speedy deletion! If it were my choice, I'd at once restore the old image; otherwise, I'd have thought an NFUR would be needed for the new one. Your thoughts?
Chiswick Chap (
talk) 21:12, 22 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Have self reverted. Just wishful thinking. Any family connection would count for nothing, wouldn't it.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:15, 22 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Unfortunate that the NFUR image is of such low quality. You'd think an unmarked image in a permanent public exhibition stand might be amenable to release into the public domain. I added "own work" as I took the photo. Perhaps it's worth formally contacting Evans' estate. The very helpful guides at Abbot's Hall did not seem too bothered.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:23, 22 May 2015 (UTC)reply
For what it's worth, I was pleasantly surprised, and enjoyed listening to him talking so easily with Kirsty Young, although I only enjoyed his first record and the Bach. — |
Gareth Griffith-Jones |
The WelshBuzzard| — 10:18, 25 May 2015 (UTC)reply
I'm distraught that you found my reaction to your suggestion regarding the entry on that nice Mr Wales discouraging. That was not my intention. My intention was to be encouraging to you and my hope was that others would join in the discussion. I did once add something myself to the entry on JW, and when last I looked it was still there. Nevertheless, it (the page) seems to be on an awful lot of peoples' watchlists, which in turn invites a certain .... caution, when adding stuff. I STILL haven't listened to the Desert Island Discs episode you commended (still haven't really recovered from the death of
Roy Plomley). Still might. But if you yourself are even halfway serious about improving the JW Page, I'm pretty sure that there are things you could take from the Young/Wales exchange that could be added as sources for things that currently appear as unsourced assertions in the article itself. Though worded like that, I appreciate it might feel a tad low profile. Anyhow, please don't feel discouraged. There are plenty of wikipedia contributors who should feel more discouraged than they do, but - in my opinion which is the only one to which I have access on the subject - you are not, and never were, one of these. Regards
Charles01 (
talk) 10:33, 25 May 2015 (UTC)reply
One has got to admit though, that they were cleverly linked. You really have inspired me. Thank you for providing the entertaining laugh though, much appreciated. Wes Mouse | T@lk 13:44, 31 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Wittgenstein
You reverted my removal of
Wittgenstein's cause of death from the infobox. Please explain why. I'm a newbie, so I looked at the
Manual of Style for Infoboxes and it says that infoboxes should summarize only key facts. Most biographical infoboxes on Wikipedia do not include cause of death. Was Wittgenstein's cause of death especially notable? It merits only a single sentence in the entire article and I see no citation that would indicate that his prostate cancer was especially notable. We wouldn't want to clutter up the infobox with favorite color, shoe size, names of pets, etc., so why cause of death? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Plantagenarian (
talk •
contribs) 22:44, 3 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Just so you know, there's nothing to say an infobox on a biography is required at all
Plantagenarian. I'm sure Martin (and others) will disagree with me, however ;) CassiantoTalk 22:53, 3 June 2015 (UTC)reply
I have no very strong feelings. It's just that your removal did not seem, to my mind, justified by your edit summary. Personally I don't regard "cause of death" as comparable with "favorite color, shoe size, names of pets". But I agree that it has little bearing on his work or his notability, perhaps none whatsoever. I will not revert you again. But I would much prefer you to open a discussion thread at the Talk Page. Thanks for looking at
MoS Infoboxes. And thanks for taking the time to post here. (Please try and remember to sign your posts).
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:56, 3 June 2015 (UTC) p.s. umm, a newbie yes, you've made a total of 12 edits 13 edits in 4 years?reply
Sorry I wasn't clearer- It's only a little thing, but as the page is at GAC, it's something which should be sorted.
WP:SAMPLE partly explains how we should interpret
WP:NFCC#3 in the case of music samples. Namely, they generally should be no more than 10% of the song's length or 30 seconds (whichever is shorter), and they generally should be no more than 64kbps. This particular sample is fine with regards to length, but its quality is, currently, too high. This can be fixed using Audacity, as explained on the MOS page just linked.
Josh Milburn (
talk) 18:16, 7 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks. Yes, I'm sure those massed bootleggers and pirate samplers will be queuing up to rob this sample off Commons. I'll upload a new one as soon as I can.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:03, 7 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Sorry, I'm not very technical - how does 22.05KHz compare with 64kbps? Should all samples have rates labelled in kbps instead of Khz? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:13, 7 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Currently, the sample is 154 kbps. You can see it right underneath the player (where the actual image would be shown if this was an image upload). I don't know if/how KHz compares to kbps, but I'm not sure why it matters?
Josh Milburn (
talk) 23:13, 7 June 2015 (UTC)reply
I was suggesting the template ought to express the limit in kbps. That might be clearer?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 06:47, 8 June 2015 (UTC)reply
And why is this "generally should be no more than 64kbps"? What are the exceptions? If it were a hard limit, then uploading above that limit ought to be disabled by the upload wizard, with an appropriate error message?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:46, 22 June 2015 (UTC)reply
I might give it a go when I have worked out what the hook means.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:50, 12 June 2015 (UTC) Does that credit come with
PPI? reply
... now you see what happens if you put DYK review requests on my Talk page!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)reply
DYK preps/queues
It's probably escaped your attention but I think it's safe to say that I've worked on the content and presentation of the linked articles in just about every DYK hook for the past I-don't-know-how-long. But of course that's irrelevant to some. And who said being mediocre was bad? It's better than fucking crap. It's better than just about half of things after all...
The Rambling Man (
talk) 16:11, 13 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Goodness me, after all these long months, Rambler! Talk of the devil and all that..... Yes, my attention span is
rather low, as you probably know. And no, I-don't-know-how-long either, I'm afraid. But almost every DYK hook does sound incredibly impressive. You have my every sympathy. I'm hoping, one day, to raise the standard of my own pathetic contributions from "
fucking crap" to the heady heights of "
mediocre". In fact, I'm hoping there's a "Barnstar of Mediocrity" on offer (hint, hint). But thanks for dropping by and lightening the tone so. Gosh Rambler, you are
a card! Tee-hee.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:02, 13 June 2015 (UTC) ... and if you do come again, make sure you don't bring that moron EEng with you.reply
I didn't expect anything more, but sometimes presenting just a very select part of the story as some kind of de facto evidence of non-participation in a process is clearly disingenuous. Have a great day, glad to see the Belgians took one hell of a beating.
The Rambling Man (
talk) 17:08, 13 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, it was a knockout, I have high hopes to see three home nations at Euro 2016 right now. There is only one Yorkshire,
our Geoff can testify to that.
The Rambling Man (
talk) 17:20, 13 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Wow, another one already! I have skimmed over it, but I am loath to make any detailed input. Your analysis seems perfectly fair. It's a bit like max speed all over again.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:18, 15 June 2015 (UTC)reply
On Kay Burley
My most recent edit wasn't correcting NPOV persay, but I just added it into the edit summary anyway - fast paced edit. I believe that my edit was more neutral anyway, as the nature of her interview has already been established in the section, so it makes sense to move onto the next topic without lingering on the aggression in the interview. Wondering about your thoughts.
~NottNott ( ✉ -
☺) 15:26, 15 June 2015 (UTC)reply
That
HuffPo source is pretty unforgiving. It says ".. cringe-inducing interview ... grilled by the Sky News anchor ... Burley gave Varney short shrift as he attempted to answer". Maybe other sources are kinder? In which case they could be used. I chose the word "assertive" thinking that was actually toning down from "aggressive".
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:33, 15 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Check out my most recent edit - I've added a more toned-down source. Tell me what you think.
~NottNott ( ✉ -
☺) 15:57, 15 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Fine by me. Personally, I'd see no harm in re-adding the Huff Po source in support. Thanks for taking the time to discuss.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:03, 15 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Top Gear
Re
your question, it's the BBC. Is there any question? Personally I think Top Gear will end up like
Brainiac: Science Abuse after Vic Reeves (who told him he was funny?) replaced Richard Hammond. I'm not sure it will last as long though. --
AussieLegend (
✉) 18:58, 16 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Are they really aiming for an audience of seven year-olds? In my view
Dale Winton would have been a
better choice. Those trolleys are quite tough, you know!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:09, 16 June 2015 (UTC)reply
I'm from Australia so I really don't know who Dale Winton is. I've seen Chris Evans though and he's clearly not right for the job. Personally, I think
this bloke is the only one right for the job. --
AussieLegend (
✉) 19:17, 16 June 2015 (UTC)reply
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Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:18, 26 June 2015 (UTC)reply
We shall see...I will be easing into my new role over the next few days. I don't see any reason why I wouldn't be able to continue at least some of my larger-scale editing, as it's fairly easy to fit into the cracks of my day. Regardless, as of now I'm planning on a fixed-term adminship myself...I don't see myself spending longer than two years in the role, tops, honestly. But again...we shall see. I'm in complete terra incognita now. Just waiting for
the dragons to show up. :-) --
Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:23, 26 June 2015 (UTC)reply
I hope you can enjoy the
crack, while it lasts, and I hope we don't see too many
cracks appearing.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:33, 26 June 2015 (UTC)reply
... or even a plumber butt or plumber's crack (Canadian, Australian and American English) and builder's bum (British English). Wishing
you the best of good luck over/with the next "two years". — |
Gareth Griffith-Jones |
The WelshBuzzard| — 08:41, 27 June 2015 (UTC)reply
This was a very stupid edit summary. Passers-by are likely to misconstrue it as racist. For myself, as I have already said, I think Indonesian schoolchildren are as bright as any others.
DuncanHill (
talk) 23:14, 27 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks so much for your warm note of appreciation. I look forward to your non-racist edit summaries. I expect those
highly intelligent Indonesian and Korean school kids, who are just
passing by, are ripping up their
Cornish primers in disgust, even as we speak.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:22, 27 June 2015 (UTC) I'm always careful to use an edit summary in case you think "what I'm saying is crap."
[46]reply
How kind. I was really hoping to save someone "from really terrible trouble, I think you know what sort I mean." Oh well.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:24, 3 July 2015 (UTC)reply
I liked
yoursigh. "And do you see its long nose and chin? At least, they look exactly like a nose and chin, that is don't they? But they really are two of its legs. You know a Caterpillar has got quantities of legs: you can see more of them, further down." Carroll, Lewis. The Nursery "Alice". Dover Publications (1966), p 27. — |
Gareth Griffith-Jones |
The WelshBuzzard| — 06:58, 5 July 2015 (UTC)reply
You have continued with this far too long; I appreciate your feelings have been ruffled, for which I am sorry. But I didn't get where I am today by waffling on about
caterpillars. Take the afternoon
off!
"CJ" (
talk) 08:57, 5 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi Martinevans123,
When I watched the movie Independence Day this week, the line adapted from Dylan Thomas' poem jumped out at me. I felt it was clear. Jan Mair saw it that way and wrote about it. I think that the text in the article is clear that this is not a lengthy quotation, and it says "adapting Thomas' line", so readers should understand that it is derived. The Wikipedia standard for documentation does not require that the documentation be easily accessible. If you object, I will go gentle into that good night.
Pete unseth (
talk) 18:00, 8 July 2015 (UTC)reply
You're lucky that I'm a
trivia junkie. But others may not be. At least that one has support from a reputable journal. So let's just see.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:12, 8 July 2015 (UTC)reply
As with most other technical stuff, I must have copied and pasted from some other (much better) article! Very likely one of those by the pre-eminent
User:Peter I. Vardy.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:31, 8 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, I'm equally inept to all things technical. Having said that, I've never been one for stealing from a church, but in this case, I'm sure his reverence won't mind. I'll leave some money for the church roof fund or sweep the nave out or something. CassiantoTalk 18:43, 8 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Sadly it was added to the MoS without discussion in 2013, but only to make the reference to Bill Clinton match his article, not as an intimation that this was correct style. This shouldn't be used to mandate the ludicrous addition of obvious nicknames and diminutives to full names in the lead. It has sadly become very common recently, but it makes the encyclopaedia look amateurish in the extreme. This is currently being discussed at
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 11:59, 10 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Many thanks, Necrothesp. I had no idea. That's a very useful piece of information. I'm not sure if that's necessarily "amateurish" or merely "disdainfully pompous", but I'll await an outcome from that discussion. I see
some have escaped. Maybe we'll be able to trim off a bit of the "
lede fat" here and there, or will that be a
red light for some?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:15, 10 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Sadly Blair didn't escape until earlier today! --
Necrothesp (
talk) 13:12, 10 July 2015 (UTC)reply
And some have words which
mean nothing to most. After all, it's always worth remembering the advice of the hugely talented
Joe Dolce. ;)
The Rambling Man (
talk) 20:19, 12 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Sca, whatever can you mean??! This is the new cuddly and approachableRambling Man that we've all grown to love and respect so quickly.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Same old Martin, same old Sca though, God bless you both!
The Rambling Man (
talk) 16:40, 13 July 2015 (UTC)reply
No, I don't think just because he has a beard, that I think he's Scottish (he wears a Cowboy hat, rather than a Tam o' shanter); one would think, judging from his name 'McHenry', that he's Scottish.
Ofcdeadbeat (
talk) 15:54, 11 July 2015 (UTC)Ofcdeadbeatreply
Ah, yes the traditional Irish
cowboy hat. I always thought Dylan was
Scottish. Mr McHenry doesn't sound very Scottish, does he, even with those rather odd bagpipes?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:41, 11 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks
I did not realize that confederate was a common term in experiments. Thanks for correcting me.
Chillum 21:44, 12 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, in
social psychology experiments anyway. Although it's not clear what an
ethics committee would allow these days. I'm sure that your edit wasn't necessarily wrong, it does make it simpler for a non-specialist to understand, So I wasn't sure whether I should
flag it up, or not! Hope you are well, Chillum.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:14, 12 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Idiom
The long pole in the tent?
Sca (
talk) 21:18, 13 July 2015 (UTC)reply
You reinserted a section in Alan Titchmarsh entitled 'Controversy'. Are you aware that the BLP policy specifically states that section headers should be neutral? I am well aware that as an IP my edit would be flagged as section blanking. I just hoped that people wouldn't blindly undo. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
81.97.198.80 (
talk) 21:03, 18 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Had you considered trimming that section instead of deleting it wholsale? Or even of opening a thread to discuss at the article Talk Page? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:13, 18 July 2015 (UTC)reply
No, because it seemed a storm in a teacup which didn't fit anywhere else in the article. Did you consider that you are reinserting something which is specifically warned against by the BLP policy? If you believe it is important then by all means try and work it into the article properly. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
81.97.198.80 (
talk) 21:24, 18 July 2015 (UTC)reply
So you think it can be "worked into the article properly"? Perhaps the material, which concerns his comments about older women in the media, could be integrated into the chronological section on his career in television. Except that it's not really related to that, but arose from an Observer interview. But even that might be better than just deleting it wholesale. Your own view, that it was "a storm in a teacup", is not really relevant, but the public reaction, by such people as
Miriam O'Reilly, is. And that passage is supported by three
WP:RSs, so I don't see that it's really contentious.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:49, 18 July 2015 (UTC)reply
You have not explained how having a section entitled "Controversy" meets BLP. And just because something is in reliable sources doesn't mean it isn't undue weight (comments which provoked a riposte at the time but nothing since?) I'll go ahead and delete it again. Like I say, if you think it can be worked into the overall narrative and comply with BLP then fine. But at the moment it doesn't accord with policy. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
81.97.198.80 (
talk) 22:02, 18 July 2015 (UTC)reply
If you think it could be worked into the article, I'd be very happy to see you do that, instead of mechanistically deleting it again just to prove a point. You can then accord it the weight you think it deserves. As you will see, it's no longer called "Controversy". I wonder had you ever considered creating a named account - that way your edits might attract less unwanted attention.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:09, 18 July 2015 (UTC)reply
A cup of tea for you!
Enjoy your break from this asylum!
MONGO 07:25, 20 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Possibly the pinnacle of Hannon's career, in my opinion.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:25, 27 July 2015 (UTC) ... the old
Bavarian cabaret song at 36:40 a particular highlight for me.reply
(ec) Can't believe it: this minute I responded to a post by you (Martin), mentioning
a composer who wrote a Requiem in 40 languages (or was it 14?), and an opera Gogol, - article needs improvement, - keyword fearless[47]. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Gerda you said you were from or you have been in Norway? Have you been in Borgund and seen the
Borgund Stave Church?
Hafspajen (
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where did all that go?
Hello Hafs! Great to see you back, and up to your usual
tricks!! I would respond with a message but, as you can see, I am
not here.
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Martinevans123 received your thanks for their edit.
Submarine (
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I'm truly amazed that a big game hunter should have his own dental practice. Maybe he gets a lot of trouble with his teeth? Or perhaps hunting is his "mane job" and he's just "filling in" for the dentist?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:48, 1 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Dentist work must be a real bore.
Hafspajen (
talk) 11:15, 1 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks for telling me about my signature leading to the wrong talk page.
Iady391 |
Talk to me here 15:11, 1 August 2015 (UTC)reply
How very lovely. You're very welcome! I hope it wasn't too
monstrous of me.
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Mark Marathon (
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I removed your {{cn}} twice in the space of 8 days. I'm not sure that constitutes "edit warring". You opened a thread to discuss this at the Talk Page just five hours ago, threatening that I will be "reported for edit warring". And all because I suggest that the description of the synopsis of the song is supported by a common version of the lyrics already linked at the bottom of the article. I don't think you're being very reasonable. So your wish that I "have a nice day" rings rather hollow.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:48, 4 August 2015 (UTC)reply
I almost admitted that you were my "mate", Gareth. But I don't think we are allowed to have those here. Maybe you can on Twitter? Removing "cn" tags twice has never been quite as painful in my 8 years here.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:34, 5 August 2015 (UTC) ... but only 8 years - that's hardly "a marathon", is it? Seems I don't have a
leg to stand on.reply
"What have I, what have I, what have I done to
deserve this??" Sing it
Dusty, me old 'derro bushie. (... I've always loved
Pat Butcher, me)
Ice cream and sheep droppings
Bore da. You might be interested in
this DYK. First ever road I drove on without L plates the day after passing my test; I can recall my mum in the passenger seat scared that I was going to drive off the edge.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 09:22, 5 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Bore da. Su'dych chi, Mr bws-arolygydd? What a lovely combination. My mother still reacts that way, wherever I'm driving....
Heads-of-the-Valleys-Hywell (
talk) 09:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)reply
It's a shame no source covers it, but the persistence of the ice cream van is pretty legendary, I've been up that way in mid January and seen it. As all my relatives who lived in the Rhondda have either died or moved away, I haven't been there in ages but do take a nostalgic trip up there when I can. The sheep randomly roaming about the van is absolutely true!
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 13:13, 5 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Maybe not, but thanks to the generosity and community spirit of Caroline Parkin (God bless 'er!), it is still possible to
spend a penny...
PaleCloudedWhite (
talk) 22:06, 13 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Well you know what they say, "in for a penny, in for £100,000"...."At a hotly contested auction the owner of Leakers Bakery snapped up the old public toilets in the East Street car park from under the noses of developers." But not sure "noses" is quite the right word there.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:09, 13 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Somehow I'm sure "Vince" would find the right word
[48]....
PaleCloudedWhite (
talk) 22:37, 13 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah, yes. The perils of
politics, eh? But good to see he's got a worthwhile job at last.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:34, 14 August 2015 (UTC)reply
The answer is no: Anyone caught wearing a watch will be executed with a 14.5mm ZPU-4 anti-aircraft gun, and the offending timepiece will be donated to the personal collection of Kim Jong-un.
Sca (
talk) 21:39, 14 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Q.
Where do you find them? A. "I was on my way to college this morning on the bus, and happened to notice a young man enjoying his music thuroughly, I then proceeded to film him." — |
Gareth Griffith-Jones |
The WelshBuzzard| — 12:16, 15 August 2015 (UTC)reply
"I 'ate you
Butler! I 'ate cha!" ... RIP
Inspector Cyril "Blakey" Blake - with that Hitlerian moustache, ridiculously glum attitude and gormless grimace, he was a true classic sitcom character:
[49]Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:33, 15 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Yarn bombed pole
Yarn bombed pole
Yarn bombed pole by "Your Friendly Neighborhood Yarnbomber" in Ypsilanti, Michigan. 2014
Hafspajen (
talk) 23:43, 18 August 2015 (UTC)reply
"most hated"
It appears our names aren't horrible, or even stupid
[50] - phew, that's a relief!.......
PaleCloudedWhite (
talk) 20:57, 20 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Shucks, fame at last, eh. I must have missed that. How very
grand. Still, much better than "most
hatted", I guess. And if I ever find out who that Teddyevans123 is, he's going to get a right "
stringing up".
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:05, 20 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Feel free to nominate an article for improvement at the project's
Article nomination board. If interested in joining, please add your name to the list of
members. Thanks for your consideration. North America1000 09:24, 27 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Oliver Sacks' nationality
Don't you just love (some) Americans - keen to claim Oliver Sacks as 'one of theirs', but equally happy to deny that their own President is... :)
JezGrove (
talk) 21:08, 30 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Quite
bizarre. I don't recall a big discussion over Sacks' nationality while he was still alive.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:10, 30 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Greetings, just your friendly, neighborhood IP popping by!. I understand my own comments may of caused a stir (I am, well was, that IP in the thread - who has now withdrawn)...or perhaps even some "offence". Seriously, if my cousin ever rose above the ranks of a lowly graduate geologist working for BHP (well actually lowly sounds kinda insulting to describe someone who is Ba, Ma and PhD) and become notable enough to have his own wikipedia article - then I dare say there would be arguments over his nationality. Assuming of course his hypothetical rise to fame took place in another country - let us say the US...because that's where he's lived for the past 15 years. Perhaps there would even be an argument over his "Englishness"?! As he was born in Devon but raised in Cornwall. "XXXX is an English-born Cornish-American geologist". My god, what a laugh. Thankfully he is above such nonsense, but I thought it was fun anyhow. And the Obama stuff - That nonsense about his nationality is still as funny as it ever was - especially considering how many still like to doubt it. --
109.149.122.179 (
talk) 22:47, 31 August 2015 (UTC)reply
How encouraging to get a genuine ip editor at my page. As we all know, Barack is actually
Welsh. Some people as so easily offended, thank goodness.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:07, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Something tells me you folks are Welsh. Well, riddle me this - I was on the North Cornish Coast this Sunday gone, climbing the dramatic heights of
Dintagel, when I spotted on the horizon an island shimmering in the distance. Could this of been a Welsh Island? It seemed pretty far off the coast, but I have some doubts as my position was rather far west. Anyhow, I'm honored to be considered a genuine IP editor - is it a fad to be one? "no account, but I'm alright!". Ha. FYI, to make it clear I am a neutral, I made an edit to a little-known South Korean "born"
girl group...--
109.149.122.179 (
talk) 15:06, 2 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Hey
Plymouth IP stranger (or can I get real intimate and call you “179”?!) We in the “Taffia” are sworn to secrecy, alas. If it was due north, on a very clear day, I guess it might have been
Ynys Wair, but that’s not really Welsh, at the moment. It’s just owned by
pâl and
bilidowcar. Oh, so that’s how you prove neutrality is it?? ... I think you ought to try a good
North Korean boy band...
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:29, 2 September 2015 (UTC) p.s.
Dintagel? - you ought to try
Dismaland.reply
I would take IPs more seriously if they understood the difference between "have" and "of".
Softlavender (
talk) 09:01, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Good morning
Soft Lavender, Yes, one of my pet grouses too. It is all down to not understanding grammar, poor diction and imitating what they think they have heard. — |
Gareth Griffith-Jones |
The WelshBuzzard| — 09:17, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
In a modern context, the term bugbear serves as a
metaphor for something which is annoying or irritating,[1] as does hobgoblin, often with a
connotation that the fear or loathing it inspires is disproportionate to its small importance. It may also mean
pet peeve.[2]— |
Gareth Griffith-Jones |
The WelshBuzzard| — 09:36, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, ... coming over here, with their chewing gum and hideous checked trousers, taking over our encyclopedias ... and talking in those irritatingly
LOUD VOICES!!! ... do they know nothing about
traditional British culture??
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:54, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the 'Thanks' you sent - the whole Sacks-nationality thing certainly requires a sense of humour at times... (I seem to recall there was a very similar spat about the exact proportion of
Liam Neeson's Irish/British/American-ness though oddly the US contingent lost interest after his remarks on gun control led to the arms industry threatening not to lend him any more of their toys for his next Taken sequel!)
JezGrove (
talk) 13:36, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha, you're very welcome. Maybe we need all BLP infoboxes to employ a mandatory drop-down
pie chart showing ancestors' nationalities for six generations back.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:58, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Given that David Cameron's
related to Kim Kardashian maybe we should go back right to the beginning of the human race and say everyone's African?!
JezGrove (
talk) 14:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Whoaah!! scary link - particularly that
JezCorbyn photomontage! Yes, looks like Winston Hubert McIntosh was
right...
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:26, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Yikes - hadn't scrolled down far enough to see 'The Man of Steel (Renationalisation)'! Guess there are some in Labour that would be happy for the Yanks to claim him... (Well, it worked for Ed and his big brother! Though
Andy Burnham would have been a better fit for the outfit David left to work for in New York).
JezGrove (
talk) 14:40, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
We could even throw in a couple of
class acts from the
red (faced) benches too, while we were at it - if we could bear to part with them…
JezGrove (
talk) 15:13, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha. Great to see you with your sturdy British
crook.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:23, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks for your help in herding over there. Just spotted my unintended juxtaposition of 'sheep' and 'herding' in my contributions to this page – but as the woolly creatures heading for the Welsh uplands say to the hill-farmers, "please don’t take a fence". (God, that’s
dire even by my standards.)
JezGrove (
talk) 22:22, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Don't worry, my uncle used to keep mountain goats. But then, he was from
Cwmaman.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:29, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
We need a persistent creature like that on patrol on the talk page.
JezGrove (
talk) 22:40, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Yup, we definitely need one with some balls - and contrary to what our PE teachers said, a long history of mastering the art of playing with your
odd-shaped balls needn’t be
detrimental.
JezGrove (
talk) 22:56, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Great! Sadly, I
Hondootedly spoke too soon about
Neesom's nationality though...! It had been quiet for months, I hope it wasn't something I said...
JezGrove (
talk) 23:10, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Lord, I never knew that Welsh soldiers were such ineffectual wussies. The
Black Watch could certainly show those pansies a thing or two.
Softlavender (
talk) 01:42, 4 September 2015 (UTC)reply
How very dare you. I'l have you know that the Welsh Guards are drilled to within a inch of their trouser creases on a
regular basis.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:26, 4 September 2015 (UTC)reply
References
^Cite error: The named reference OED was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).
What is it with today? Nothing but vandal reverts all day.... The sooner we get them all back in class, heads down and working hard to pass their exams, the better. I blame the parents.
Mr. Hankey =
Ghmyrtle (
talk) 16:31, 1 September 2015 (UTC)reply
hello. Sorry we seem to have been tripping over each other editing the page. I noticed you inserted an inflation adjusted valuation for the manor supposedly converting the then valuation of £11 to £10,000 now. I would suggest that this number is wrong! I am extraordinarily skeptical that the equivalent of what is now the annual wage for a poorly paid person would have been enough to buy this manor at that time.
Incidentally, the figure of £11 is that quoted by wessex archaeology in their writeup and is no doubt what the original document said. I was concerned, however, whether this was the sale value, or might possibly be an annual income valuation.
Sandpiper (
talk) 23:26, 4 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi,
Sandpiper thanks for your message. Apologies for the edit conflicts. Yes, that value looked a bit low to me as well, so I've taken it out. Thanks for adding all that new material. I'm not sure that SM 27145 is really needed in the lede section. Maybe we could work it in later on, as the lede is meant to be a summary of the whole article?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:45, 5 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Good morning Martin and
Sandpiper, I have just edited the Info' box to reflect its address. Although Chenies is in Buckinghamshire, Chenies village is in the WD3 postcode area, which is centered on
Rickmansworth. Therefore its postal address is Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire. — |
Gareth Griffith-Jones |
The WelshBuzzard| — 08:52, 5 September 2015 (UTC)08:54, 5 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Cheers. I knew it was near the border of the two counties.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:55, 5 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Dont have a problem about moving the reference number. There is more material to add yet and obviously the lead summarises the article contents, so rather has to be written last. I have changed it a bit because the information I added has rather contradicted what it used to say, about the current manner being built by the Cheyne family, whereas it is looking to be 'new' tudor work. From what I have read, this is not absolutley certain, but that would seem to be where the wessex archaeology/time team detective work has led. There is more to write up about phases of construction of the demolished north block, but it looks like this was the old house. I expect there will be a home for the ref number somewhere later, and it might have been nice if there was something more which might have been said in the lead about the earliest part of the house. Unfortunately it looks like all that is left is a basement.
Sandpiper (
talk) 09:07, 6 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi
Sandpiper. I'm sure your diligent research will be of great benefit to the article.
Martinevans123 (
talk)
Section blanking
Hi Martin, a couple of sections I added to the page
Brian Anderson (boxer) have been blanked twice this morning by editor Banderson1961 – this is the only page this user has edited, and the account wasn’t used before today. I know your Wikipedia experience is much greater than mine – would you mind taking a look at the page when you get the chance to see what you think? Very many thanks!
JezGrove (
talk) 09:44, 7 September 2015 (UTC)reply
I'll try and have a look. That does seem a bit odd and maybe bordering on disruptive editing.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:50, 7 September 2015 (UTC)reply
How do I speak with you?
Hi I would like to discuss recent revisions to Brian Anderson (Boxer).
Banderson1961 (
talk) 03:46, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
As you are involved please find below a copy of the message I have sent to JezGrove:
Hi JezGrove - I'm sorry for the unauthorized editing yesterday. I really have little idea how to use this site. However the additional information you have added to Brian Anderson (boxer) is biased and without context. I don't know if it is your intention to be misleading but I just wanted to add some balance to the biography because I'm hoping that is the point of Wikipedia. I don't know if I have breached some convention as I am the subject of the page but if you are interested in writing a factual biography I would be more than happy to speak with you!Banderson1961 (talk) 03:55, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Martin, Thanks for your help - and apologies for dragging you into it in the first place! I've replied to
Banderson1961 on my (rather
dusty) talk page.
JezGrove (
talk) 08:59, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi again, Martin - thanks for your comment on the BA (boxer) talk page. I'm REALLY
confused - am I dealing with two separate people both claiming to be BA now? Is there a way of checking?
JezGrove (
talk) 16:25, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
I think we need to ask Mr Anderson if he's created a second account by mistake, or out of newbie ignorance. He's said a number of times that he has "no idea how Wikipedia works", so I'm guessing it's an oversight on his part.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:06, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Maybe, but one of them has been responding to my posts on my talk page (you're very welcome to take a look, though it's a social desert over there)
JezGrove (
talk) 18:15, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
And just when I thought that I'd finally deleted any such suggestions from my WP page...
JezGrove (
talk) 20:29, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
We may all need to
take shelter from such a prickly specimen. I just don't like to see another editor getting
boxed in.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:42, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
If, after B(G)A’s eventual response, I’m left feeling a little
mistreated is there anywhere I can take the issue? (I should have restricted my edits to saying that in the bad old days everything in prison was
‘orrible but that now it’s all
‘cushty’ – sadly, I just couldn’t find a reliable source!)
I could suggest a possible venue, but you might find it a little
arduous.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:32, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
That's fine, provided it's better than facing a
lifetime of unwarranted abuse!
JezGrove (
talk) 21:36, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
For once I’m totally
serious (ouch!) – I really don’t want to be on the receiving end of accusations of bias when I’ve been polite and open to suggested revisions. (At least in my eyes - I appreciate that these things are subjective, but then that cuts both ways). I’m not going to be online much tomorrow (some new work has just come in, and I need to do the week’s shopping in the morning before I make a start on it –ah! the joys of ‘working from home’) but if B(G)A accuses me of bias again is there anywhere I can go to defend my (albeit unremarkable) reputation?
JezGrove (
talk) 22:20, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
You could go to
AN/I. But that would be a bit like a snowball expecting to get a fair hearing somewhere
on the West Coast. It's really just a content dispute. Believe me, it's rather obvious that you have nothing to answer in the
bias department. BGA appears to be just a new editor who is keen to expunge anything from the article about himself that looks a little negative.
User:Michig is the editor who created the article. I wonder what he has to say.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:36, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
I suspect he might be a fan (probably unfairly, but not overflowing with good faith right now). So I guess I’ll just have to fake it and
let it go then!
JezGrove (
talk) 22:45, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Just as I was in danger of forgetting it, good faith is always required - even when in short supply. I've now looked at
User:Michig’s (very numerous) useful contributions and realised how totally unfair my last comment was – no disrespect was intended, and my apologies if any was taken.
JezGrove (
talk) 23:06, 8 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Dear both I dont understand much of what is written here between you both it appears to be in some sort of code! Yes I am a new editor but Im not sure what the relevance is!.. Just for the record I have not requested that anything be removed from the page. I attempted to delete it originally only because I didn't know what else I could do. My requests have only ever been that more content should be added to provide more balance. I know I can't win this argument you have all the power. I find it interesting that someone who writes anonymously about others (JezGrove) is so easily offended. I wish you could experience, just for a day, what it feels like for me.
My best wishes to you both JezGrove and Martinevans123
Thanks for your message, Brian. Apologies, you're not the only one who has trouble understanding my rather convoluted
Talk Page. It tends to be a small oasis on nonsense amidst the stark deserts of verifiable facts. I'm sure most of us never have to worry about article content reflecting poorly on us personally. And I see at the Talk Page that the editor who originally created the article,
User:Michig, shares some of your concerns about balance. In my experience, Private Eye is happy to dig up whatever dirt it can on someone just to fill its columns. That doesn't mean it's not all true, but it may not all be appropriate for inclusion in a wikipedia article. Prisons only tend to get in the news when there is a problem. But I can assure that any "power" that JezGrove or I may seem to have here derives wholly from the application of wikipedia policies. There is no reason why you can't also soon become familiar with these and feel equally empowered. You might even want to edit other articles.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:46, 9 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Dear Martnevans123 - I'm Grateful for your time and advice
Kind Regards
A few people around this place (WP, not your entertaining Talk Page) act like
Miracle Mike – I dare say I’m occasionally one of them, though…. Have a good day!
JezGrove (
talk) 09:19, 10 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Apologies - point taken!
JezGrove (
talk) 23:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Jez, you have nothing to apologise for. You are always welcome at my Talk Page.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:04, 11 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks Martin. I see that Liz II has become the Queen with the longest reign, but it could be a while before she becomes
the Queen with the longest snow! Sincere apologies to you and CS Lewis (and Liz herself, of course!) for that royally dire attempt at humour
JezGrove (
talk)
I noticed the link you added to
Dunnockshaw and Clowbridge, and while you have linked to the correct Whalley, that article doesn't mention the ancient parish so I'm going to revert. Quite a long time ago I started this
User:Trappedinburnley/Whalley (ancient parish), but as I didn't know much about it I got a bit stuck. Since then (time permitting), I've been working through the relevant articles adding info on the related townships, with a view to eventually completing the new article. Any contributions you could make would be welcome.--
Trappedinburnley (
talk) 17:45, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
PS Are you aware of this?
Wikipedia:GLAM/Clitheroe Castle Museumreply
Hi Trapped. Thanks so much for your friendly note. I'm must admit that I left that edit summary question mark just for you. I can see you've been very busy in your sandbox there and it looks very promising. I'll try and have a look. Thanks also for the castle link. I've been to Clitheroe a few times, but never to the castle.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:14, 11 September 2015 (UTC)reply
WP
Anyhow, WP seems to be back up.
Sca (
talk) 21:41, 12 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Linking to
Richard Hearne? Are you showing your age, I wonder, or did your parents tell you how wonderful Mr Pastry was:
see here. I adored him when I was a little boy in the 1950s and I can still see why. Tim riley talk 21:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, a gem. Long before my time in fact, can only just remember seeing clips of him on TV. I'm pretty sure my father thought him a bumbling idiot, but I recall that my grandparents thought him "quite a card".
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:19, 14 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Oh, grandparents is it? Right! That's all-out war. Tim riley talk 21:23, 14 September 2015 (UTC)reply
The article you mentioned is about the general style of the folk idiom called the Hoedown. Many composers have drawn on this basic fiddle-based dance music for inspiration. One that comes to mind is
Don Gillis, who I studied with in the 1970s.
Having lived with both the Nelson and the Copland for more that fifty years I can assure you that they are completely different pieces of music.
JaneOlds (
talk) 20:44, 15 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Your place must be quite crowded. But do say hello to
Oliver for me.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:56, 15 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Elvis Costello & The (Visitor) Attractions
Hi Martin! I know in his early recordings Mr Costello / MacManus had a rather mumbled vocal delivery, but nevertheless I’m sure he expressed his feelings very clearly in his excellent song (I Don’t Want to Go To) Caersws! Having had a look at the page’s troubled editing history, I humbly suggest that if the locals REALLY want to stake their village’s claim to fame they’d be better doing so with: "It has one of the biggest clusters of IP editors of Wikipedia in Wales, or indeed the world"… (actually, maybe "one of the
densest clusters" would be a more accurate description, on second thoughts!
JezGrove (
talk) 09:07, 19 September 2015 (UTC)reply
I hadn’t realised that waiting for the pubs in Wales to open was like waiting for the end of the world. And there I was thinking that you were living in paradise! (Although I note that they repealed the law in ’61, which was a good year – and not just for the roses!)
JezGrove (
talk) 21:58, 22 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, some parts are a bit
dry. But
this one was in the world top ten, apparently!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:06, 22 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Looks fantastic - I didn't spot that one in my battered out-of-date Rough Guide to Wales! Oops, forgotten my wallet (again!) - you couldn't get them in, could you?
JezGrove (
talk) 22:14, 22 September 2015 (UTC)reply
A editor has added an info-box which I have deleted as pointless (basically duplication of stuff in the lead). I am a fan of useful info-boxes (cricketers, politicians etc) but I think those that just duplicate the lead make Wikipedia look rather amateurish, and are unnecessary clutter. But if you disagree, I shall not object if you restore the IB. Pray ponder. Tim riley talk 12:09, 22 September 2015 (UTC)reply
(
talk page stalker) My view is that many articles look incomplete and amateurish without an infobox. I know opinions differ, but there seemed absolutely nothing wrong (or pointless) in that case.
Ghmyrtle (
talk) 12:21, 22 September 2015 (UTC)reply
What a rebel, attacking an innocuous primetime TV presenter – do these people not realise that it’s all been done before? Of course, the earliest known example is of Aristophanes dissing a
popular light entertainment act of his own day… (He beat Ben Elton to quite a few fart gags, too!)
JezGrove (
talk) 22:20, 25 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Who's not from Worcester, that's what I'd like to know? Could it be that the IP who geolocates to Worcester isn't from Worcester, or that the
named editor who the IP claims not to be isn't from Worcester - but then how would they know? Ooh, it's a riddle!
PaleCloudedWhite (
talk) 21:22, 30 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Hahahahahaha. Well it beats having ip editors (who have been here for less than two years) nailed to the school walls, I guess. Our mysterious friend not-from Worcester is a bit of a
Crowded House fan, it seems.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:26, 30 September 2015 (UTC)reply
"OMFG". Not seen you for a while, Dot! I thought you'd been
sent down for at least 30 years for giving
Nasty Nick his last ever
WP:GAR. But what a lovely musical gift! Hours of
Manchester fun. lol.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:32, 26 September 2015 (UTC)reply
We invent all these sports - you can't expect us to play them well, too! (Dragon's protruding tongue duly noted - but doubtless no more than we deserve.)
JezGrove (
talk) 22:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)reply
So THAT'S the secret - centuries of sneaky practice before we even stole the game from you, you scoundrels! I've often enjoyed a pint or two (I know, I know... but then I'm not a Rugby fan) of that particular brewery's wares but inevitably woken up the next morning "feeling (insert chicken-based cliché here!)" Anyway, congratulations on your victory - and good luck for the rest of the tournament.
JezGrove (
talk) 23:08, 26 September 2015 (UTC)reply
I'm sure the England side will wake up 'over the moon' with
Samuel L Jackson's words of wisdom ringing in their ears. (And my apologies, that should have been 'clichéd chicken-based homophone' above, shouldn't it - my standards are slipping, which is worrying considering how low they started out...)
JezGrove (
talk) 08:41, 27 September 2015 (UTC)reply
We might need him - we've got a mountain to climb and our hopes of
clinging on in there are looking slim.
JezGrove (
talk) 10:38, 27 September 2015 (UTC)reply
I certainly do. (Whilst trying to forget about passing under
sleep's dark and silent gate.) I saw
Clyde perform For a Dancer as a tribute to
James Honeyman-Scott (who had died the day before) at a very wet Glastonbury in '82 - from one pretender to another, I guess. The weekend tickets cost a shocking £8 - they were gouging us even back then! BTW, my own rendition of Here Come Those Tears Again usually lives up to the name (but not in a good way, unfortunately)
JezGrove (
talk) 11:54, 27 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Did you intend to restore Caipinheger? Normally if something goes unsourced, with source requested, for four years, it would be removed.
WP:V says "All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material." This has been challenged, and there is no inline citation that directly supports the material.
Kendall-K1 (
talk) 21:48, 28 September 2015 (UTC)reply
If there is a
WP:RS, it should be restored. Who knows if that's four years of searching, or three years and 364 days of ignoring the tag? I guess you'll have formed a list of possible web candidates that fail
WP:RS? Or have you just been thumbing through printed Portuguese cocktail recipe books?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:53, 28 September 2015 (UTC)reply
But Caipinheger is still there? No-one's deleted it? It just needs a source?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:57, 28 September 2015 (UTC)reply
I deleted it. You restored it. I'm asking why, since that seems to violate WP policy.
Kendall-K1 (
talk) 22:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Apologies. I intended to restore it with a source. (I also mistook the tense of your question to be conditional future, instead of past). I've now added two sources, although I have to admit they don't look very impressive. Do you have an interest in Caipirinha, or are you just deleting claims that have been tagged for a long time? I don't see that these claims are particularly contentious or problematic, not that policy makes any distinction?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:30, 29 September 2015 (UTC)reply
There are 19
WP:RSs listed at
Cocktail, so I guess if someone was keen to improve the Caipirinha article they could try and check some, or all, of those. "Cheers".
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)reply
World (Cup) domination?
Hi Martin - set on
world domination, I see! Give the rest of us a chance, will you?
JezGrove (
talk) 10:54, 1 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Well done against the FeeGees – I wonder how we’ll do against
the Australians? (Not a comment on the selection criteria for ‘British’
sportsmen and
women, just a feeble stretch on my part – though they did first become notable Down Under, so the Aussies can have them if the Yanks don’t claim them first!) I guess we’ll just have to wait and see whether (falsetto mandatory) it’s a
tragedy or whether we can
scrape through to the next round.
JezGrove (
talk) 07:13, 2 October 2015 (UTC)reply
It's a shame that Owen "
Vinnie" Farrell, who had played so well, got carried away with
Old Git. At least one of the replays showed that the ball was actually nearby (even if it was in mid-air) when that shoulder came in. And Australia were not without a few of their own "wild tackles". I guess that's why we have the
TMO. Even if the yellow card wasn't cast-iron, the penalty certainly was. And his departure did not really affect the outcome, I guess.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:58, 4 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Fair enough - though 'World Series' is a bit of a misnomer. Strange how our cousins across the Atlantic specialize in games only they play competitively. (Totally unfair of me - I believe they play baseball in Japan, too...)
JezGrove (
talk) 20:19, 6 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah yes, I think that's one of the reasons why
WP:ITN is a constant battleground. Oh, and probably
this one.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:39, 6 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Fools! It's clear that we should never have opened the floodgates by allowing
Guy A. Sautter to compete in 1911!
JezGrove (
talk) 21:46, 6 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes - you live and learn, and then you die and forget it all as they kept on reminding us on Radio 4 a while back.
JezGrove (
talk) 21:57, 6 October 2015 (UTC)reply
It wasn't a red link when I reverted. I didn't quite see why [[non serviam|non serviam]] was an improvement on [[non serviam]]. I must have assumed that the re-direct was already in place - because that's how it looked when I clicked on it. Very sorry if I have put you to any trouble. It's great that even Latin phrases, that would not normally be given an initial capital letter, have to have articles that use one, isn't it?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:37, 1 October 2015 (UTC)reply
(
edit conflict) That's odd,
non-serviam (with a hyphen) was a redlink when I looked, so the IP's pipe [[non serviam|non-serviam]] seemed an improvement. Oh well. It's all working now and the redirect is usable elsewhere. All those
numerous places where we use that Latin expression, I mean. Best, --
RexxS (
talk) 21:49, 1 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah yes, I forgot. There was a hyphen. Which I evidently didn't even see. And we can't ever check if it was red, before you created the re-direct, can we, as now the re-direct exists, and means the red link is never there, when we look at past versions.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:02, 1 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Much better, I think, Gerda. As we already have three articles for books called Non serviam, I think lower case might indeed be preferable. Upper case letters can be so
common ,I find. Did
Lucifer ever use it with a capital letter, I wonder?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:55, 1 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Your recent edit
Your edit at Auden I have had to undo since you are attributing Harold Bloom's words to me. Though flattering, this is not any credit that I can take, so I need to do a friendly undo to restore proper attribution to Bloom. If you have any questions about the edit please bring them up here and I'll try to get make. Cheers.
MusicAngels (
talk) 20:18, 6 October 2015 (UTC)reply
But there is no need to revert the links I added, is there? I've restored the quote, although it's still very unclear to me who's quoting whom, and why. Poems, like songs, are generally given in quotes, not in italics, unless published as books in their own right. A better place for discussion might be at the article Talk Page. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:36, 6 October 2015 (UTC)reply
You are again attributing the Bloom material to me which I have quoted correctly and which you are attributing as my words. Please return the quotes where I put them to properly attribute what Bloom has written. Regarding your comment about poems in Italic that is true in general, but that is not how Bloom wrote it in his quote, and the Bloom version is how he wanted it written.
Occassionally, a poem's name will also appear as the name of a book of poems, and in those cases when the book of poems is being referred to, then the Italic version is to be preferred. Please return the quote to the way Bloom wrote since that was and is his preference. Your added link are a benefit and you can certainly return them, I did the undo because your edit was not attributing Bloom's words to Bloom. Please return the quote marks, etc, as I requested, thanks.
MusicAngels (
talk) 20:43, 6 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Glad to see you keeping an eye on the Britten article. (It does attract the vandals and loonies doesn't it!) I wonder if your interest in 20th British music might extend to looking it at
the peer review of Sir Arnold's article, which I'm hoping to take to FAC in due course. Quite understand if he doesn't appeal, naturally. Tim riley talk 20:28, 7 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Tim, I have skimmed through that article, and I must say it's a privilege to even be asked to review it, So thank you very much. Alas, am a bit tied for time at the moment with stuff in the "real world" (yes, I think it still exists), so any review I offer will probably be for very tiny spelling mistakes and missing links (if there are even any at all, of course)! I know so little about Bax, that reading it will be a complete education.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:22, 7 October 2015 (UTC) peer review? you're more likely to get an
end of-the-pier revue from me.reply
What a pleasing message to read! You are very kind. Perfectly understand that RL has a way of muscling in from time to time, naturally. Best, Tim riley talk 08:05, 8 October 2015 (UTC)reply
You found the reference
The Diligent Librarian Barnstar
For exemplary service at the
Resource Exchange, tirelessly delivering the reliable sources on which this encyclopedia depends, please accept this award. :) You noticed the Harold Bloom book with the two separate years, the one was for the hardback version and the other was for the paperback version.
MusicAngels (
talk) 20:59, 8 October 2015 (UTC)reply
How very kind. Those trusty old hardbacks - much more reliable than those troublesome
on-line sources.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:07, 8 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Cecil (Again)
I see Cecil the lion has raised his head again - quite an achievement under the circumstances! (My own - rather smaller - rescue cat has no teeth and probably now has a fear of dentists, and I'm with him on that one!) 21:26, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
JezGrove (
talk) 21:26, 14 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Isn't there some dental version of the Hippocratic oath that means they have to tell the
whole truth? Actually, on second thoughts, let's not start them thinking about hippos now that the lions are out-of-bounds...
JezGrove (
talk) 21:42, 14 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Jezza, mate,
it's a jungle sometimes out there. I had a
spell of almost intelligent Talk Page discussion, but then someone said they had nothing more to say to me which, judging by past contributions, will be a
real bonus.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:51, 14 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Texas Lottery? You should be seriously considering your long-term investments in conjunction with an independent financial advisor or you'll be left with just
25p!
JezGrove (
talk) 22:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC)reply
I've a feeling that you're overlooking the non-negotiable £100 fee for my original investment advice, though!
JezGrove (
talk) 22:11, 14 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Minus the £4.04 - not sure what happened there! Should have been
this, which looks the same to me....
JezGrove (
talk) 22:16, 14 October 2015 (UTC)reply
I'm glad to have intrigued you! Well, it might be that I'm just playing with words, but I know a lot of wiki people so it can always happen that some edit of mine be paid back in smiles, hugs, kisses or even hospitality. I don't keep track of those, while I have a couple separate accounts for actual wiki jobs, see
Wikipedia:GLAM/BEIC and
User:Federico Leva (WMIT).
Nemo 15:31, 20 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Do you know how to sign your posts yet? And can you please explain this wonderfully enlightening
?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:02, 20 October 2015 (UTC)reply
And
this completely apolitical, not ideological, neutral statement.
LizRead!Talk! 22:04, 20 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, doesn't it? Do you think it is an allusion to
Dickens? Have you read that?
Hafspajen (
talk) 15:06, 23 October 2015 (UTC)reply
It's so long since I read that book, I can only remember one of the cities. I think it was some terribly
bleak place. But this looks like the sort of
funereal landscape that would probably suit
Jerry Cruncher. Sage is not a million miles away from
Wolfgang Paalen, is she? And like him she ended up committing suicide. But if I had to describe the painting, I'd probably say something like ... "Like other works by American Surrealist Kay Sage, "I Saw Three Cities" is at once realistic and mysterious. Presiding over the haunting, abandoned landscape seen here is a guardian whose fluid drapery and sinuous curves recall those of the ancient Greek statue Nike of Samothrace. Sage’s sentinel lacks the Nike’s effervescence, however. Its drapery is animated, but its core remains rigid and static. This uncanny presence — neither dead nor alive, neither man nor woman — reflects the Surrealists’ fascination with robots and other forms of mechanization. Sage, whose husband was the French Surrealist Yves Tanguy, helped several French artists reach the United States after the outbreak of World War II."
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:45, 23 October 2015 (UTC)reply
HM; from
Wolfgang Paalen, that's new for me ... interesting guy. Though, surrealism doesn't seems to be to healthy, now, for artists. Any thoughts on an article? You look like found some stuff on it.
Hafspajen (
talk) 16:19, 23 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Such a
bleak painting, I'd be surprisied if there was much more to say about it! But I'll keep looking.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:22, 23 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Hehe -
Bleak ... well, maybe bleak, but rather suggestive.
Hafspajen (
talk) 16:30, 23 October 2015 (UTC)reply
But maybe it could be a good look for you? (Just don't let Mail Online get a snap of you "looking all grown up"!)
JezGrove (
talk) 19:09, 21 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Here's one they took
earlier.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:13, 21 October 2015 (UTC) I think this is Haf's cute way of getting me to "
saddle up and do some editing"... reply
Appropriately hilarious! I've avoided Facebook so far, but then I didn't realize they offered to arrange free bunion tending, so
who knows what the future might hold!JezGrove (
talk) 19:26, 21 October 2015 (UTC)reply
John Wayne gacy: he was executed. He death wasn't homicide unless you are trying to say bullshit like the DEATH penalty is legal murder which it isn't. I suggest elimating bias and just say facts. We are wikipedia we don't take sides we report facts
"
Homicide" means: "The killing of one person by another, whether premeditated or unintentional; killing another person." That's a fact. The death penalty is legal, in some places. It doesn't count as "murder", to most people.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:21, 22 October 2015 (UTC)reply
I say! That was quick: about thirty nanoseconds after I deposited my re-write in main space there you were, tweaking to excellent effect. You can't possibly wriggle out of clocking in at the peer review now, and giving my text a serious once-over. Ever thine, Tim - Tim riley talk 18:02, 24 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Don't mention The Poisoned Kiss: it is my secret sorrow in re the Vaughan Williams article. When the Hickox recording came out, one critic wrote that it was like Gilbert and Sullivan – if Gilbert had written the music and Sullivan the words, but I have tried and tried, unsuccessfully to track down the quote for this article. Tim riley talk 18:46, 24 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha, that's very funny. Is that the only
Richard Hickox connection? Maybe you can still sneak him in somewhere?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:54, 24 October 2015 (UTC)reply
It seems our efforts towards equality are just a drop in
the ocean (well, perhaps in its circulation, anyway...)
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)reply
The source given by Rodw does not support the claim that Alice attended Westbury C-of-E Primary (in fact it doesn't identify her primary school at all) so it doesn't support the information given in the article. Friends Reunited is therefore a better source for that fact.
Other editors have suggested that Friends Reunited is a problematic source. While not ideal, I contend that it is acceptable given that the information is not contentious. See the Alice Roberts Talk page for further discussion. Friends Reunited requires a login, not a subscription. A better source (perhaps you can find one) would be open access, not self-published, and would (unlike the edit I reverted) actually contain the information it purports to. Kind regards
2.221.46.231 (
talk) 12:29, 27 October 2015 (UTC)reply
So how many primary schools are there actually in
Westbury-on-Trym? I would have thought the phrase "went to school in Westbury-on-Trym" from the
Bristol Postdoes indeed support, if not entirely, a claim that Roberts attended Westbury C-of-E Primary. Yes Friends Reunited is indeed a problematic source and, for those who do not wish to "subscribe", is quite useless. One can't even judge the context in which the information is given? I actually opened that discussion thread in November last year (when I even defended the use of Friends Reunited as a source). Perhaps you'd care to add something there? It's hard to tell if you have contributed there before or not. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:47, 27 October 2015 (UTC)reply
I don't know how many primary schools are in Westbury-on-Trym, but Alice's secondary school is located there. That means that a statement that she attended school in Westbury doesn't necessarily imply that her primary school was also in Westbury. The Friends Reunited reference is unambiguous.
A reference to a paper textbook (if unavailable online) is only useful to somebody who owns the book, but such references are acceptable to Wikipedia, as are sites behind subscription paywalls. Friends Reunited is more accessible than either of those categories.
Thank you again for opening the discussion thread on
Talk:Alice_Roberts - I didn't recognize your user name initially. I have contributed to the discussion there previously, and may do so again.
I've reverted your edit on the basis that a poor reference - even one requiring a login - is better than none.
I think it might be better if
WP:SPS didn't also apply. One can claim whatever one likes on FR and, as far as I know, there is no editorial checking whatsoever. That said, I don't know why Alice herself would want to make an erroneous claim about a primary school like that. I hope you decide to create a user account, that would certainly make continuous collaboration easier.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:13, 27 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks, and thanks for clarifying the source access. Re:
WP:SPS regarding "Self-published or questionable sources as sources on themselves" it seems that all five criteria are met in this instance.
I may well create a user account at some point, but it's just so hard to find a good name that's not already taken!
Are you sure that's an error
Reffy-Bot? Or is it the parameter error whose name can never be spoken? It doesn't show up on the page?? C'mon now, don't be such a tease.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:40, 30 October 2015 (UTC)reply
I met Patrick Moore at a book signing and have got a signed copy of one of his books. Out of all of the people that I have written about on Wikipedia, he is the only one that I have actually met. Today's strange but true fact.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 20:39, 30 October 2015 (UTC)reply
How amazing! Shame you didn't have a camera handy (although that can be so embarrassing). Oh, I could
name names you know, old boy.... (but then I'd have to return all those lovely editing fees).
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:45, 30 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Considering all of the biographical articles that I have edited, it is remarkable that Patrick Moore is the only one that I have met. Then again, he did a lot of book signings. In the past, I have been accused of being pro or anti various people that I have never met.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 20:49, 30 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha! As if that would stop you (or me) being a pro or an anti! But, as you are begging me to tell you.... I have the same sort of signed books from
this landlord and
this explorer. I've also met a lot of psychos like
this one,
this one,
this one and many more! But I've actually shaken
this guy's magnificent hand and the
thrill of that moment has certainly not gone.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:06, 30 October 2015 (UTC) ... oh and I once served
Frank Bough a whisky and water. A man with a very loud voice, incidentally. oh, and I used to drink in the same pub as
this guy and
this guy, if that counts as "meeting".... reply
And
here is the signature inside the book. This was in 1993, which amazingly is now over 20 years ago.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 21:11, 30 October 2015 (UTC)reply
If that was mine I probably would have tried to add it to his info box by now!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:16, 30 October 2015 (UTC)reply
It could be added to the infobox, but I'm not sure how necessary this is for an average article. Biographical articles don't generally have the person's signature, although articles about
US Presidents regard them as a must-have.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 21:23, 30 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, a bit of a
strange thing, I think, if the person isn't a writer. Maybe an image of Moore's telescope xylophone would be more meaningful.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:28, 30 October 2015 (UTC)reply
I claim no knowledge of the English judicial system, but are you absolutely certain English High Court judges are called "Judge Mr/Mrs Justice"? From what I can tell, the
court document on for Sweeney's remarks on Rolf Harris and on
High Court judge (England and Wales), they just use "Mr/Mrs Justice", and don't have an extra "Judge" in front.
Cannolis (
talk) 17:59, 1 November 2015 (UTC)reply
That's how I've always seen it, at least on first usage. If it's already clear, by means of context or explanation, that he was the judge, maybe it could be omitted. That source looks pretty clear and official. I won't revert you again, but it might be better to raise the question at the article Talk Page? Cheers.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:04, 1 November 2015 (UTC)reply
I think it might be a combination of the
American title with the English one. This is the first mention of Sweeney in the article so I completely agree with you that it's helpful to clarify that he was the judge. Would you be okay with leaving it there but de-capitalizing judge so as to make it not sound like part of his title? Happy to go to the talk page of course, but this doesn't seem so controversial that two people can't just hash it out easily.
Cannolis (
talk) 18:15, 1 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi Cannolis. Sorry, I must have missed your reply here. Your change at the article looks fine to me. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:01, 1 November 2015 (UTC) I'm sure you can claim at least some knowledge of the
English judicial system?! reply
Great, thanks! I guess I can claim a tiny bit now after reading the the wiki article on English High Court judges. That show looks amazing, and now I will imagine all English judges to be this fantastic.
Cannolis (
talk) 13:55, 2 November 2015 (UTC)reply
That is better than I could have imagined.
Cannolis (
talk) 22:01, 2 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha. For most of us in the UK , it's worse. But then, the Daily Mail often outstrips one's imagination.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:04, 2 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Wow,
nice logo!! Shame we haven't got that one in the top corner of every page (or even if we saw a different one every time we refreshed...) But many thanks anyway! I guess we can all now look forward to
next year.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:16, 1 November 2015 (UTC)reply
I couldn't let that logo be not-used, so... Eman235/
talk 18:35, 1 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Well, knowing Billy as I do, that certainly makes me
smile. I actually thought that all the logos were really good and all deserved to be used!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:42, 1 November 2015 (UTC)reply
But have you lost your
touch? That, my dear people, is the main thing. The worrying thing.
Softlavender (
talk) 09:13, 4 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Allegra Versace
If you want to, you can take a look at the article about
Allegra Versace. That article is this weeks TAFI.--
BabbaQ (
talk) 22:23, 2 November 2015 (UTC)reply
How wonderfully generous of you. I've had quite a few friends who were notable
dressers.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:27, 2 November 2015 (UTC) A TAFI you say? I wouldn't want to
take out too much.reply
Could be a er... "cunning stunt" to attract publicity. (Though they may need to prepare for a 'pubic lice' outbreak if they're still using Google Translate...)
JezGrove (
talk) 11:06, 3 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Don't look at any of Pizzarelli's album articles. You'll say goodbye to the next week. Passion Guitars/Passionate Guitars anyone? Who created all these? Seriously great player though!
Gareth E Kegg (
talk) 23:21, 2 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes he is. And no I won't (possibly)!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:25, 2 November 2015 (UTC) .. and can also
sing a bit, you know. A wonderful musician.reply
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Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:10, 6 November 2015 (UTC)reply
PS, do you know the joke about the
Louis Agassiz statue pictured above? It seems that Agassiz was much better in the abstract than in the concrete. yuk, yuk.
Carptrash (
talk) 20:27, 6 November 2015 (UTC)reply
I recently ordered, and am starting to receive, box sets (very cheap, c. US$10 each) of the music of
Pomus, Shuman.
Mann, Weil,
Goffin, King (I already have a good Lieber, Stoller collection) - each is 3 CD, about 25 songs per, but there are no notes. So I am going through them all writing my own notes. Every now and then I get diverted into wikipedia to make some edits. Like now. so . . . ... welcome to my life.
Carptrash (
talk) 20:51, 6 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Hey that's so cool! Some great song-writing partnerships there. I'd love to know where that
stage name came from. The wiki redirect is a bit
unexpected!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:57, 6 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Hello, I'm Chris Peter. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your
recent contributions because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. --
Chris Peter
Mr Peter, is there some explanation for this high-handed, hideous and harassing intervention?? I'm "
all ears".
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC)reply
TAFI
If you want to, take a look at the article about
Marie Serneholt which is this weeks TAFI article. Regards.--
BabbaQ (
talk) 19:42, 9 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks, Martin, I've now sent you my reply to your reply. Please feel free to delete this when you've read it.
Tlhslobus (
talk) 21:55, 9 November 2015 (UTC)reply
"The crate of tinned peaches you sent were very much to Sir Henry's liking."
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:02, 9 November 2015 (UTC) ... will try and send you some of
Sister Dolly's upside-down cakes when I get the chance, (nudge nudge) reply
Eh-oh!
Hi Martin, a bit of a strange one... I’ve rather haphazardly come across
a page but happen to know its subject socially. (The circles I move in…!) We’re absolutely by no means 'besties' but she's a close friend-of-a-friend I'm still occasionally in touch with (and have known since infant school! - I'll be posting a birthday card later this week...) and I’d feel uncomfortable tagging the article myself (single reference, and perhaps on the promotional side of encyclopedic) but maybe you’d be able to give it the benefit of your much vaster experience? Or maybe I should just channel my inner child and
let it go?!
JezGrove (
talk) 22:53, 9 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Ahhh, how touching. That's
so sweet. Well, I'll try and have a look. Otherwise, I guess you could always
blackmail her?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:56, 9 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Bizarrely, I happen to live in
Royston Vasey - we even have a (very recently-opened) shop that says it's 'a local shop for local people', though I'm not sure how well they thought that marketing slogan through...! (And I knew the cartoonist Royston, who occasionally appears in Private Eye, at our mutual unprestigious university - in fact he's married to an ex-girlfriend of mine, so I guess it's official - I'm the least famous person I know!)
JezGrove (
talk) 23:25, 9 November 2015 (UTC)reply
In between kicking lumps out of each other chez Sibelius, I have
RVW at FAC, and any comments you might care to make would be welcome there. Also, having had productive dealings recently on Peggy Mount I wonder if I can interest you in Sybil Thorndike, who is my next candidate for an overhaul with FAC in mind? Pray ponder. Quite understand if you aren't interested, natch. Tim riley talk 21:17, 10 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Any comments?! I'm feeling a little
waspish right now, alas! If only I could somehow
escape the box wars...
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:24, 10 November 2015 (UTC)reply
I leave anything cube-shaped to your discretion, but a waspish view of any article at FAC is ideal. One wants the most rigorous scrutiny. But there is no hurry, and if you like to look in a day or so hence that will be excellent. Tim riley talk 21:31, 10 November 2015 (UTC)reply
p.s. if you have any ideas of how you'd like to be insulted, at this Talk Page or any other, please email usual PO box - "I carry a
xylophone and I'm not afraid to use it".
Precious again, your comment "it's a challenge to reach an intelligent compromise for the benefit of the reader"!
"Readers come first" is the secret slogan of my favourite candidate for arb, DYK? If not, see my user page, haven't campaigned since the (unsuccessful) RfA of
Mkativerata. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 10:35, 24 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, a novel idea, I feel. Many thanks, Gerda.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:58, 24 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, how different the Sibeliusing would be with that in mind, --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 11:21, 24 November 2015 (UTC)reply
I searched for "everyone is an expert" and I found
this. Says it all, I feel.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:27, 24 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha, what a challenge. I think we both know that, of all the meaningless statistics at Wikipedia, that one is one of the
most meaningless! (.. won't stop me trying, of course). Allen Toussaint a really nice guy. Notice to Appear with
John Mayall one of my favourite albums.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
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Hi P-123. Sincere apologies, it was a random error, so please ignore. I often get a late jump in my watchlist/ edit history at the moment I make a mouse insert. I put this down to slow rendering on my computer. Or maybe it's caused by a slow update from the database, I'm really not sure. Some of my unintended reverts are much more embarrassing - a partial bi-product of having a watchlist in dire need of pruning! So again, sorry about that. :) "
M-123" (
talk) 11:44, 12 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Whoops. We used to have a few
laughs. But not seen him for quite a while.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:03, 12 November 2015 (UTC)reply
...and there
they are below. Like that moment you're sitting at home wondering why so-and-so hasn't called, and then there goes the phone! CassiantoTalk 20:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)reply
I remember doing work with you before here and found you quite helpful.
What are your thoughts of the
Skyfall page saying the gross is 1,100 million instead of 1 billion?
Four editors claim for it that it was to avoid any confusion from people who use the old billion (million million) in the UK, instead 1,000 million like the US, which the UK adapted 40ish years ago?
There has been a little fight for a while to get it moved back to a billion, just like loads and loads of other pages have it. But currently at a mild standstill due to four editors on one side, and four on another.
I am for the change back to a billion in gross, would you be interested in helping to be a fifth? I for one, was taught 1,000 million to be a billion, and not a million million, which most of UK would have been also due to billion being adopted as 1,000 million 40 years ago.
Would be greatly helpful to move discussion from more than a 'talk' but to an actual finalised consensus which can be used, and let that be the end of it.
1,000 million and 40 years ago is a very long time, isn't it. So I'd certainly go with that. But I'm all for standardisation, so maybe a global conversion to
Indonesian rupiah would be the way to go - a much more impressive 15,099,221,156,740 IDR??
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:05, 12 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Hmm. As predicted, conditions still seem a little
stormy over there, don't they. I'll try and think of something
civil to say.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:33, 20 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi,
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talk) 16:35, 23 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, it's only me voting this year. So I'll be taking bribes. Please take a ticket from the counter, unless you have
cash. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:53, 23 November 2015 (UTC)reply
I gave you a gem (above) - before even reading this. Will that do? - I voted, no offers needed in return. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 11:20, 24 November 2015 (UTC)reply
I'm sure that will do
nicely, Gerda. Although I may be a bit
tied up for the next couple of weeks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:47, 24 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Fruit and Veg
I don't care whether the peaches were to Sir Henry's liking or not, as it's far more critical to know whether the consignment of cucumbers was to Lady Henrietta's satisfaction. This message will not self-destruct without assistance from the recipient.
Tlhslobus (
talk) 08:11, 25 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Lady H. was completely satisfied, I can assure you. Which is more than could be said for the
cats.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:50, 25 November 2015 (UTC)reply
After a rummage in the archive, I found
this photograph of Ghettopoly which I took at an open air market stall in 2005. It points out that the game was banned on eBay as it was considered to be racially offensive. It was £10 which I thought was a lot at the time, but today I wish I'd bought it, as mint condition examples are worth a lot of money. Don't expect to see it on Antiques Roadshow though.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 09:10, 29 November 2015 (UTC)reply
I hope we see that photo added to the article! Or perhaps WMF can buy the rights from you? Unless, of course, it's one of those
clever Chinese fakes.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:54, 29 November 2015 (UTC)reply
I was thinking about adding it. What do you think the licensing should be?--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 09:57, 29 November 2015 (UTC)reply
LIke
this one, I guess. With some kind of fair use rationale? Except it's hardly a commercial concern any longer, is it.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:02, 29 November 2015 (UTC)reply
DYK? In January 2010, eBay banned the sale of a Dad's Army board game because there were swastikas on the box.
[59] All together now, "Who do you think you are kidding, Mr. Hitler?"--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 09:19, 29 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha, how wonderful. "He said ______* was “run by a system, by robots, with no brain who probably just vet the content without looking into anything properly”, adding: ”It's moronic." (...* please fill in encyclopedia name of your choice.)
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:50, 29 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Here is a more detailed look at the Dad's Army board game from 1974. The triangular flags are clearly based on the
opening sequence of the show. Even the ultra-politically correct BBC has not banned the opening sequence of Dad's Army and still shows it in its original form. The only Dad's Army episode to be banned (sort of) was Absent Friends from 1970, which sat on the shelf until 2012 because it featured a member of the IRA as a character. It Ain't Half Hot Mum has been less lucky, as the BBC has declined to show it for years, much to
Jimmy Perry's annoyance.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 18:04, 29 November 2015 (UTC)reply
What do we do? Airbrush all swastikas out of the history books? Sweep the
Afrikaner Broederbond under the ANC carpet? Pretend there's no such thing as the
KKK? But I see It Ain't Half Hot Mum hasn't even got a section on "controversy". Maybe it's just old fashioned?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:13, 29 November 2015 (UTC)reply
The article It Ain't Half Hot Mum should point out that the BBC has refused to broadcast any episodes for years, and that this has annoyed Jimmy Perry.
[60] However, in November 2015, the BBC said that it would be available for download.
[61]--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 18:21, 29 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Murder in the Red Barn - Please explain why you have removed my edit. Peter Maggs Peter Maggs 15:49, 3 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Peter Maggs (
talk •
contribs)
No, but I did not understand it; as a very occasional Wikipedia editor, obviously I have missed something. What do you mean by a secondary source? Peter Maggs 16:55, 3 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Peter Maggs (
talk •
contribs)
My edit summary said this: "don't you need a secondary source, especially with a user name like that?" So I had two points. 1. With a new book I think it's usual to use a
secondary source, not just the book itself, to establish its notability. 2. As you have the same name as the author I was guessing there might be some kind of
conflict of interest, in terms of promoting your own book. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:09, 3 December 2015 (UTC) p.s. I see you have been editing here for ten years - did you know you should sign your posts using four tildes? Cheers. reply
Thanks, useful comments. Actually I always sign my post with four tildas and I always, nevertheless, seem to get the message 'unsigned'. I don't understand what I am doing wrong...Peter Maggs 22:13, 3 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding
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Peter Maggs (
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contribs)
I only ever eat Basmatti rice... Here's an idea: clearly you have an interest in the Red Barn murder. Why don't you check out my website www.mirlibooks.com where there are some extracts from my new book; if you think it merits it, link it to the Wikipedia page. I believe my research significantly adds to the knowledge we have on the murder of Maria Martin. Peter Maggs 17:28, 5 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Peter Maggs (
talk •
contribs)
Ah yes, that explains it, but you always forgetting to sign is
quite sad. But thanks for the message. What's all this about
Donald McCormick manufacturing evidence in his 1967 book?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:32, 5 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Hello again Peter, old chap. Charmed, I'm sure. That all looks very intriguing. I think it would only be fair to open a discussion thread at the Red Barn Murder Talk Page, where any interested editors could discuss the merits of including your new book. If not, they might always consider buying a copy as useful last-minute
silk stocking-fillers. I don't know about you, but I could murder a
good burger.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:50, 6 December 2015 (UTC) p.s. I must say how dapper you look in that blazer - didn't we see you on that recent Essex edition of Antiques Road Trip?? reply
Note to Peter Maggs: With Martin you have to look past a good deal of whimsy to see the wisdom.
EEng (
talk) 15:01, 6 December 2015 (UTC)reply
I can do whimsy; I was never sure about that jacket though ... an impulse buy in Southwold. --Peter Maggs 17:59, 6 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding
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Peter Maggs (
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contribs)
From Southwold, you say? Well I hope you don't feel too
bitter about it. I'm sure it's just the thing to impress the
ladies when eating your
Southwold fish and chips. But I think you've put an excellent post on the Red Barn Talk Page and I do hope it attracts some positive response.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:43, 6 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks for your help on this; much appreciated. Peter Maggs 07:08, 7 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding
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Hilary Benn
Hi Martin, thanks for the thanks. I see you just added the 'however' that I was thinking of including! Another (!) old girlfriend of mine lived next door to Hilary in Chiswick in the '80s when she was a student (there was even a connecting door upstairs, and she used to babysit his kids). Though she didn't get the use of the garden, because it had been amalgamated with Hilary's - we often saw Tony playing football in it with his grandchildren (yup, and smoking his pipe at the same time).
JezGrove (
talk) 00:23, 4 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Haha, I've gone to bed so I won't reply! As you know, I have been a firm fan of
the pipe and still think it should appear in his article! Blimey, these
old girlfriends of yours are a force to be reckoned with, aren't they. I thought Hilary's speech was one of the best I've heard in years - word perfect and delivered at exactly the right pace, sincere, thoughtful, candid. A slight echo of his inspired father. I found it quite moving. After hearing that, I honestly think he might be the next Labour Leader.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 00:31, 4 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, Eddie Mair played it in full on PM yesterday and it was excellent - Tony would have disagreed with the viewpoint, but been very proud nonetheless. I was with the girlfriend for about five years, and she was Hilary's tenant in the house next door to his own for the last three of them when she was at college in London - I probably stayed there almost every other weekend until she dumped me during her final year. She actually broke up with me in the living room there - almost thirty years on and I can still remember the record that was playing on the stereo!
JezGrove (
talk) 09:28, 4 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Sadly, it was side 2 of Bat out of Hell - not my choice, though I don’t think that was the reason for the break-up! I think the turntable must have been set to repeat play but it’s possible that neither of us had the emotional energy to turn it off, or even turn the disc over – either way, every twenty minutes or so Meatloaf was singing,
"And she kept on telling me, she kept on telling me, SHE KEPT ON TELLING ME…". Haven’t thought about that evening for an extremely long time – and this is the first time it’s occurred to me that maybe it was deliberate. (I catch on v-e-r-y slowly, if so!)
JezGrove (
talk) 12:35, 4 December 2015 (UTC)reply
We need John McDonnell to throw the book at
this guy !
JezGrove (
talk) 16:21, 4 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Apparently he harnessed the incredible power of the invisible mind-controlling
Jackie to his own evil ends:
[62]. Not to be trifled with, obviously.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:27, 4 December 2015 (UTC) I always found that
magazine a fab fun read... But I never realized it could blow your head off!reply
I hope you'd be willing to assist in scaring up sources.
[63]EEng (
talk) 06:31, 6 December 2015 (UTC)reply
As a Japanese Scouser myself, I can assure you that to help fit in with the locals it is advisable that one chooses a suitable name. --
Nick Yamōta
Hell's kittens, EEngie! Have you fully taken leave of your senses?? I suspect you've been overcome with a
fit of the vapors.
Dai Saiko, (
Ystalyfera) 15:24, 6 December 2015 (UTC) ... or maybe you are just decidely
"unhinged".reply
…some people have high opinions of their opinions
Xanthomelanoussprog (
talk) 13:21, 11 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks. But it's a little depressing when you used to respect those people and their opinions.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:00, 11 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Made my day. What a year, starting with
Geh aus und suche Freud, written in joyless circumstances (see DYK), - you need to seek! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:47, 11 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Goodness me, how beautiful is that Vaughan Williams.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:48, 12 December 2015 (UTC)reply
I said I won't pass individual Christmas greetings, but as the cantata was mentioned on the Main page today, one moar dose of laughter for you - details on my talk -and thanks for your lovely composition!
Accidental revert
Martinevens123, I accidentally reverted one of your edits to
Tyson Fury. Sorry about that! I restored the edits back to page (i am editing wp on a really crummy android tablet and I hit the revert button for you instead of the vandal above you in the recent changes feed).
BlAcKhAt9(9 (
talk) 17:17, 13 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi Martin, I'm just after a bit of advice. I've added my suspicions about copyright violation (looks like it's been there for a while...) to an
article's talk page - is there anything else I should do?! Thanks in advance - BTW I see England are in the same group as you in the Euro 2016 football finals - will we never learn...?
JezGrove (
talk) 00:01, 14 December 2015 (UTC)reply
laser
The gene subject is posion by chickenfears, but have fun, it is a lie your/media will perhaps enjoy.
what is to dificult for you. To understand.
The gene subject is posion by chickenfears < "the shalow inheritance" search for liberman etc, scientific wishful crocery
but have fun - they will have fun - we are serious.
the stupid will have fun based on lie
your/media will perhaps enjoy. <those who propagate the lie will maybe ejoy it.
To understand more you newed to know more about each part of the sentence. Start form paleontropolgy ... if you like realy understand, ask., If not do not expect we will lower to your understanding. most coherent is laser. if you look at it you will be blind.
70.214.34.97 (
talk) 00:24, 15 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Better not look, then. Not even sure I newed to know.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:48, 15 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Don't believe the lie, Martin! Don't drink the Kool-Aid!
Softlavender (
talk) 10:26, 15 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Well, if you don't trust it, that's enough for me! You're the real
acid test.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:22, 15 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Can we lure you, I wonder, to comment on the development of
William Sterndale Bennett and
Albert Ketèlbey, both of which are up for peer review? I am just carrying the bags for both reviews, with others taking the lead, but I hope I can do a bit of judicious whipping-in. Not in the least compulsory, natch. Tim riley talk 16:42, 18 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks Tim, I will try and take a look.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:52, 18 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Make sure to click on both pictures to see them full size Martinevans123 as they will give you a chuckle. May your 2016 be full of joy and special times.
MarnetteD|
Talk 04:12, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Season's Greetings (Cyfarchion y Tymor)
.
Pick and choose according to taste: Have a Wassailing Winter Solstice (Gwasaela Heuldro'r Gaeaf), Merry Christmas (Nadolig Llawen), Grey Mare (
Mari Lwyd) walkabout, or Happy New Year (Blwyddyn Newydd Dda).
May your celebration go with you.
Robevans123 (
talk) 08:54, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Merry Christmas!
A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!
May 2016 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals!
What's a soltice?
EEng (
talk) 13:49, 21 December 2015 (UTC)reply
"In 2009, a crowd wearing traditional costume, met at Stonehenge on December 21st morning to mark the rising of the sun on the shortest day of the year. But unfortunately their calculations were slightly out meaning they had in fact arrived 24 hours prematurely."
Martinevans123 (
talk) p.s. a seasonal poultice is fine by me, thanks.
Have a happy holiday season. May the year ahead be productive and happy.
John (
talk) 17:38, 24 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Many thanks, John. What a very colourful and charming tableau that is!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:09, 24 December 2015 (UTC)reply
And now for 2016
A view of Lake Bondhus in Norway, and in the background of the Bondhus Glacier, part of the Folgefonna Glacier. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. — |
Gareth Griffith-Jones |
The WelshBuzzard| — 16:12, 25 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Wow, 2016 looks pretty interesting, doesn't it. Or are we all just
hallucinating? I must have missed that fjord on my trip to Norway earlier this year. Or maybe I just didn't sample enough of the
local produce??
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:50, 27 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Best wishes for the holidays... III
Season's Greetings - Gott Nytt År!!!!
Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Bring on the Champagne!
Hafspajen (
talk) 09:26, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Sending my servants! ... only ... Hope nobody will steal the stuff! on the road, it's a bit
showy...
Hafspajen (
talk) 13:49, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
I think Slemmy-Lemmy have stolen your beer.
Hafspajen (
talk) 16:13, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Oh Hafs, you're such a
sweetie, but I'd probably go for something a little more dry and
smokey.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:28, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi, you have added a link for
lactose intolerance to the early life section on
Gavin Esler. Had you found a source that named his illness, or had you inferred this? The references that I had seen didn't put a name to the condition, hence the vague wording that I had used. (For example a condition such as
pyloric stenosis would commonly present at such an age and could lead to surgery).
Drchriswilliams (
talk) 20:52, 28 December 2015 (UTC)reply
My inference and I expected a revert. The source is a paper one and I have never read it. I didn't see any direct mention of milk at
pyloric stenosis, but I had assumed that lactose intolerance was a generic term. I will self-revert if we can't find an online source. But not sure about "thought he might die".
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:01, 28 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, it looks like I omitted to include the url to that Guardian reference, I agree that it should be added. I liked your change to the wording that described the episode in terms of his parents' fears, I thought that it fitted in the article a bit better than the way I had put things.
Drchriswilliams (
talk) 21:16, 28 December 2015 (UTC)reply
I've now added the url. For some reason I had assumed no url meant no web source, and that a medical link was better than what appeared to be somewhat lazy reporting. But it was Esler's own account and it's not explained. So I have now reverted. I've not been able to find any better source on-line. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:20, 28 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Gaining the trust of the community
Hi Martinevans123, I just wanted to let you know that I have
added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on
new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see
Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing!
Mjroots (
talk) 22:52, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Mjroots (
talk) 22:52, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
"Gained the trust of the community"?? Ffs! how much did that cost you?? What a shame. I always looked forward to those "article has been auto-patrolled" messages, as it proved at least one person had read the article! (only joking). Thanks for telling me.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:05, 29 December 2015 (UTC) p.s. didn't you ask other more senior
editors if I can be "trusted"?? reply
As
Henry Crun once said "Thank you for your support, I shall wear it always."
You announce these and then silently make others, right? - Help, I need a DYK review for
BWV 171, for New Year, quite soon, - it's a GA, shouldn't be too hard to do, --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 23:40, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Wow, that naming of movement sections looks a bit
minimal! I'll try and have a closer look but am travelling tomorrow.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:43, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
It is minimal on purpose, - you can reach any movement from anywhere without having to deal with German spelling. Tomorrow --- will be too late, --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 23:47, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
5 times expanded (within last seven days) is quite a lot, isn't it. Is that a strict criterion? I can see that you've some some excellent work improving that article. And it would be a shame if it missed out on DYK just because that technicality. But I don't know how to get round it?!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:57, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Just add numerous "and", "if", "but" and commas? Just a thought from MONGOland.--
MONGO 20:57, 30 December 2015 (UTC)reply
15K worth of and", "if", "but" and commas might be pushing it? Fortunately the relevant criterion is "Promoted to good article status" so size is irrelevant. And I'm glad to see that
Montanabw has now reviewed and found it to be fine.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:02, 30 December 2015 (UTC)reply
(GA status is the criterion, easy. - Still needs an admin with a soul, who dares to push it into a full set...) Thank you for your support, also musical Welch wishes, returned with
my review, and the peace bell by
Yunshui! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 10:53, 31 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Now on the Main page, - Casliber had the soul! (The alleged owner of all horse articles couldn't promote as she had reviewed.) Click on bell for the soft sound of peace (and jest) ;) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 12:05, 2 January 2016 (UTC)reply
You realized that I have a soul! OMG! Don't let THAT get out, it will totally destroy my street cred as a "Serial defender of assholes, serial holder of grudges, serial accuser of socks, serial owner of horsey articles, and serial denier of Wikipedia's chronic issues with retaining sane, normal, humans as editors" and "a thin skinned dictator who OWNs all horse articles." LOL!
Montanabw(talk) 19:23, 31 December 2015 (UTC)reply
CAme like surprize no? Montana, could you leave Marion as it is? I have PLANS for him.
Hafspajen (
talk) 19:25, 31 December 2015 (UTC)reply
This barnstar is awarded to recognize particularly fine contributions to Wikipedia, to let people know that their hard work is seen and appreciated.
Hafspajen (
talk) 18:31, 30 December 2015 (UTC)reply