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Hello. Just wondering if you would mind taking a look at a collaborative effort I'm trying to start. Any feedback or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! DxNate 13:26, 1 May 2024 User- Talk- Contribs
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Kathleen Battle. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. -- Ave Caesar ( talk) 00:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank your for your email. It's difficult for me to see what's been happening on this page, but edit warring is bad. Anyway I will write something on the Kathleen Battle talk page. Best regards. -- Klein zach 00:33, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Well I'm not sure exactly what you would like to happen. Were you wanting everything restored to the talk page? Did you want to fix your comment on the archive? Once I understand clearly what you would like to happen I can best answer your question. Thanks. Nrswanson ( talk) 21:52, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I guess we can talk this out here. My personal preference would be to keep the conversation archived for several reasons:
I am of course willing to hear your side of things and counter reasons why the discussion should remain open. For the record, nothing has been altered or removed but directly copy pasted from the talk page. Nrswanson ( talk) 22:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok. But now we have some problems here. We have two open discussions and that is not good. Nrswanson ( talk) 23:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
An un-archived discussion on the talk page means that the discussion is still open. This is why we archive on talk pages, to keep a record of concluded discussions. Nothing ever gets deleted. All converations are saved. However, if a discussion is not archived it is assumed that the conversation is still open for further comment. Basically editors will now feel free to continue to talk on the Kathleen Battle talk page, interjecting comments anywhere that they please.This in my view will hinder dialogue at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard because everyone will have to keep track of what's being said in two places instead of just one. Understand? Common practice when moving a conversation to another page is to archive the old discussion with handy links to the archive at the new discussion. This way everything remains on one page. Make sense? Nrswanson ( talk) 23:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
An interesting idea but I am afraid that is a violation of wikipedia policy. Talk pages are public forum pages and must remain open for editing. Editors may also choose to bring up issues about this page un-related to the firing and need a place to do it. Archiving is the standard practice here. If you like we can take this to Kleinzach but I think he would agree with me. Also we can simply add a link to the archives at the new discussion page so they can read them easily for comment. Everyone there will understand because most wikipedia editors are used to archives and how they work. Nobody will accuse you of lying or anything like that because the record will be there. Nrswanson ( talk) 23:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
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I am concerned that someone has breeched civility here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Kathleen_Battle&diff=231579325&oldid=231579086; I also believe someone has untimely archived relevant discussions we were in the midst of would like to know what to do. I await responding directly to person or taking action until I get assistance. Thanks in advance for your help.
Hrannar (
talk) 13:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Hrannar}}
Thanks, TenPoundHammer! Hrannar ( talk) 21:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Hrannar
Hrannar I have chosen to not participate in this conversation anymore, so please just leave me alone. I archived it because you and I were the only significant participants beyond two mediators who now have nothing to mediate. The conversation is now over and the best place for it is to archive, for the health of the talk page if nothing else. Members can still puruse the archives as they please. I do not take back what I said because I believe it to be true. I will ,however, archive my last statement with the past discussion if you prefer. It really serves no purpose sense the conversation is now over. Go ahead and do what you want with the article. I will not revert or contest anything you do on the talk page or otherwise. I have given up trying to work with you for several reasons. One, you have never for one minute even acknowledged an ounce of validity in any arguement I have made in the last several weeks. 2. You seem to have a vendeta to destroy my credibility in the wiki community by airing my past mistakes, even after I have admitted to them (a long time ago I might add). Repeated attempts to ask you not to do this failed. 3. You have also fought me on several very minor and practical points to the point of high frustration. In short I think you just like to disagree with me now out of spite and I can't work with someone like that. Nrswanson ( talk) 19:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
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I was advised to contact an administrator about breech in civility. I tried looking around, but I simply don't know where to begin. How do I contact an administrator in this case.
Hrannar (
talk) 21:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Hrannar
I have reported you to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring for your recent edits at the article on Kathleen Battle. I was simply going to warn you at first until I noticed that this is not a new thing for you (see warning above on this talk page). Inmysolitude ( talk) 22:33, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
{{
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below, but you should read our
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Tiptoety
talk 22:44, 2 April 2009 (UTC){{
unblock|My being blocked does not necessarily prevent damage or disruption. I actually asked that an adminsitrator get involved, but I didn't know how to do it. May I please ask that you look at the discussion page of this and see what has happened? The user who has invoked, requested the block, seems a little suspect. In fact, if you look at the archives of his talk page, in just a short amount of time, he has already gotten himself blocked for "disruptive edits." Secondly, it is a little suspicious that this newly registered member (since mid march around the time that I began editing the Kathleen Battle page again) is acting like a seasoned wikipedia contributor, warning another member of edit warring, when they have only been a member since around March 16? Their chastising me seems extremely random. Didn't they see nrswanson changing my changes. Perhaps nrswanson didn't use the "undo" key, but essentially, the action was identical. Or Eudemis not responding to my calls to discussion his addition first on the discussion page, like wikipedia protocol suggestions. I am doing my earnest to follow protocol and would ask the same of other contributors. I am only editing out a single sentence that is clearly questionable. Again, please see the current discussion, and even archives to see my civility and cooperativeness official wikipedia moderators, whereas other contributors seem angry and uncooperative. Thanks so much for you assistance with this. I am wondering if the person who reported me might be the same individual as nrswanson. Thanks for your consideration.}}
I am willing to unblock you under these conditions:
Oh. Ok. I do. Tiptoety. Did you happen to see the discussion page. It was actually Eudemis who introduced the controversial change, and I asked that if he would agree to first discuss, but he has not responded. I am unsure what to do, since he doesn't respond. Hrannar ( talk) 23:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)Hrannar
Thanks you very much. I understand. Hrannar ( talk) 23:55, 2 April 2009 (UTC)Hrannar
Hrannar, as I commented above, you have been warned about editing on this page in the past. (a fact I am only aware of by looking at your talk page) This is why I reported you. Second, you did edit war by making five reverts. Third, I have no vested interest in the Kathleen Battle page which I have never contributed to. Fourth, I have also warned the anon IP and user:nrswanson for their behavior. Since neither of them technically broke the 3RR rule I did not report them. Finally, I don't appriciate being accused of something by an editor I have absolutely no history with. Inmysolitude ( talk) 23:22, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
At one of the sockpuppet investigations you asked "this was an revert, but doesn't use the undo, since Nrswanson would be highly familiar with the edit rule, given his level of knowledge. Is this not, on some level, gaming the system?" - how the article was returned to a previous state, whether by the "undo" or by manual adding/subtracting of material, is irrel. What matters is the actual state of the article. So the answer to your stated question is, "No, not using the 'undo' function is not considered "gaming the system"" but the answer to what you really wanted to know is "Yes, whatever method of editing changed one content version to a previous version is used to calculate whether 3RR has been violated." -- The Red Pen of Doom 20:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Can you confirm that you sometimes forget to sign in and edit from this IP? [5] Thank you! -- The Red Pen of Doom 19:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
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