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Just for the record, I reverted Winkelvi's user page simply because the description is not true. Yes, I blocked him indefinitely, and yes he has been suspected of sockpuppetry ... but the latter did not cause the former. If the block is commuted to a checkuser one or otherwise definitively proven, we can update then, but I don't think we should tag based on purely circumstantial evidence.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 08:28, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
You should have just removed the 'blocked' parameter
Ritchie333. I have added {{sockpuppeteer|spipage=Winkelvi}} to the talk page. Could someone please move it to the user page? -
MrX 🖋 11:27, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Sure, done. Incidentally, I had no idea the user page was full-protected until I made this change just now.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 11:32, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Ritchie333. -
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ThatMontrealIP, handled (passed it to the friendly neighborhood oversight team). In the future, best to contact
WP:OVERSIGHT for outing issues.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 01:37, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Unblocking of User:ActuallyElordi
Hello! You have deleted the message left at User_talk:ActuallyElordi. The person blocked for impersonation is himself. -
Theklan (
talk) 17:04, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Theklan, I saw. I removed the message because you are not permitted to file an unblock request on behalf of another user.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 17:12, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Thant's weird. How is the procedure to appeal the decision if I see that it is an error? -
Theklan (
talk) 17:24, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Theklan, if the user wants to appeal they may appeal it and admins will handle the appeal. If they don't appeal, then they presumably don't care enough to get unblocked. Regardless, you may not file an appeal on behalf of someone else.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 19:05, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
I am not sure many users with 3 edits who violated no policies relevant to the block can figure out how to apply for appeal. Are you sure it is the case where following the letter of the policy makes sense? --
Base (
talk) 02:04, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Base, hold it right there please. You say the user violated no policies relevant to the block. That is incorrect.
enwiki's username policies specifically prohibit people from having a username which implies that they are a specific well-known person (right up until they have verified that they are that person). That policy is there for a very good reason, too; it is intended to prevent impersonation of real people. In this case, someone with the username "ActuallyElordi" was editing
Jacob Elordi. That looks like a pretty clear-cut violation of the aforementioned "well known person" part of the username policy.
As for whether or not it makes sense to follow the rules: the unblock directions are right there on their talk page. They are not complicated. I have seen people with just a single edit manage to request an unblock.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 02:25, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
The policy you mention says "unless it is your real name". It does mention that the block might happen, but it says "until proof of identity is provided". In this case it is provided. The policy does not require for the proof to be provided by the user themselves. The next paragraph does mention info-en, but it does not say that it is the only way it can be done. The block looks justified from what information was available at the moment it was done, but at this point it does not seem to make sense. As to "I have seen people with just a single edit manage to request an unblock", it is a clear case of
Survivorship bias. You haven't seen those people with 1 edit that did not manage to request an unblock. --
Base (
talk) 03:24, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Base, you're right, the policy does not explicitly require the evidence to be provided by the user, probably because nobody expected another user to be able to provide that proof. Similarly, I actually went back and re-read
WP:BLOCK and
WP:UNBLOCK, and neither explicitly prohibits other users from placing unblock requests on someone else's behalf (so that was my mistake acting as if it were explicitly disallowed), but I believe that this is because nobody expected one person to place an unblock request for another person.
You're probably correct about survivorship bias, but frankly, if someone cannot follow the fairly straightforward directions on the block notice (or even just post on their talk page saying "I really am Elordi, please unblock me" - I watch the talk pages of editors I block), then I have to question whether they have any business editing an encyclopedia.
Regardless, this is entirely a moot point -
barkeep49 saw this whole discussion and chose to unblock based on the youtube video. If you still have concerns about my actions, you are of course welcome to raise them at the noticeboard of your choice.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 13:17, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Just noting that
WP:UNBLOCK does prohibit 3rd party appeals Appeals of blocks may be made only by the editor under a currently active block. in the section
Appeals by third party so GN was correct in reverting the unblock request made there. This was an unusual situation in several regards so it's unsurprising that there were different ways of upholding our policies and guidelines. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 15:05, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #427
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
SQID allows you to analyse, browse and query Wikidata. SQID is inspired by Magnus Manske's Reasonator, but focuses on prominently featuring information about Wikidata classes and properties.
a
graph of MPs and parties in the Swedish Parliament and with whom they worked together with to create motions 2018
SPOILER: >95% is just with people in the same party
The last week was our quarterly prototyping week. We worked on the following projects. None of them are ready for prime-time yet but we'll continue with them.
Slices: We've had a lot of requests for accessing dumps of a smaller part of Wikidata's data since rarely anyone needs the complete data in Wikidata. The tricky part is figuring out which part is needed and if any of that can be generalized. We looked into for example how to make dump generation faster so we could potentially produce more smaller dumps that only cover a part of Wikidata's data, either thematically (e.g. humans) or by type of data (e.g. only statements and English labels and aliases but not sitelinks or descriptions).
REST API: As part of our effort to make it easier to access Wikidata's data for programmers we looked into a REST API. We tried to see if we could cover the existing action API modules in a REST API. We could. We'll take this as input for our ongoing API work now.
Improving quality ratings through ORES: ORES can judge the quality of an Item automatically. It is currently not very good at it however. We tried a few things to make it more accurate and found some easy wins we'll probably make happen in the next weeks.
Query manipulator: One of the ways we could potentially improve the load situation of the Wikidata Query Service is by automatically analyzing and then redirecting a bunch of queries to other systems that are more suitable for that particular type of query. The nice thing about that would be that the person/program sending the query wouldn't have to care about it but it'd be done automagically for them. We tried to build such a system and the results look very promising but more work/experimenting is needed, especially together with the WMF Search team.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
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Problems
All queries to the
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Interlanguage links were ordered incorrectly for the past few weeks. This problem was also mentioned in
Tech News two weeks ago. The problem is now fixed.
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There is a problem with the
global preferences for the "Use Legacy Vector" option. Developers are working on fixing it.
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A bug in the Wikibase extension had disabled the "move" and "create" types of protection in the main (Gallery) namespace on Wikimedia Commons. New protections could not be added, and existing protections were not enforced, allowing some page moves and page creations that should not have been possible. This has now been fixed.
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The
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Users' global.js and global.css pages will now also be loaded on the mobile site. You can read
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T255953. This was previously mentioned in
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Bot operators can use Pywikibot to regularly archive discussions. The behavior when the bot uses counter to prevent large archives was changed.
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The
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Thank you for being patient with my question at SPI. This is a part of WP I am happy to be a customer of, so to speak, but do not fancy trying to work inside!
FiddleFaddle 20:19, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Timtrent, sure, I'm glad to be of service. And please, don't hesitate to ask questions if you think we didn't do something we needed to (or did something we shouldn't have) - it wouldn't be the first time I've missed something!
GeneralNotability (
talk) 20:24, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
AFC seems to throw up a goodly number of socks, copyvios, UPE and all sorts of stuff. I seem to be reporting more violations than reviewing drafts!
FiddleFaddle 20:28, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
Shooting of Greg Gunn you nominated for
GA-status according to the
criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period.
AtsmeTalk📧 15:57, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply. I didn't know much about filters, and
your prompt reply was quite helpful. I spent some time looking at half a dozen of the readable filters with nearby numbers, and at the documentation. I have a pretty good handle on parsing regular expressions, so it was interesting.
Thanks for the help.
Geo Swan (
talk) 01:53, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
Majavah, mistake, thanks for catching that. I'll fix it shortly.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 12:35, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Cross-wiki spam
Hello, General! :D
I'm an administrator in Persian Wikipedia, I noticed you removed a section from the article
fa:ویکی پدیای فارسی, Can you provide me with more info on that? Also, can you provide me with some information on how you chase cross-wiki spam and if you guys could use a few more hands? Cheers! Mohammad 17:27, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Mohammad, hello! I actually had to explain this at dewiki a little while ago, so I'll just copy what I said there:
I removed them because that paper has been the subject of a massive sockpuppetry campaign (I believe over 200 accounts have been connected to this so far, many confirmed by checkuser) to insert it into articles in many different languages. If it had been one or two accounts adding this article to several wikis, I might not have removed it, but because there are over 200 there is no way that this is a good faith misunderstanding. If you look at the articles I changed, each article had a different user add the section I deleted (but they all added similar text), and all of those accounts have been globally locked because of their involvement with this campaign. The link to the article has been blacklisted across all languages and several people are working to find and remove all of this spam. This was originally found at the English Wikipedia, please see
w:en:Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Refspam_across_many_articles for further details.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 17:34, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Thank you both for your time and answer! Mohammad 17:42, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
p.s: I granted you Autopatrol over there for a week, this should prevent the Abuse Filter from messing with your job. let me know if you need anything else. Mohammad 17:49, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Must've done that at the exact same moment as oddly didn't get a notification you'd already blocked. As they say great minds... Glen (
talk) 17:15, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
Glen, hah, no worries, revoking TPA was probably the right thing to do anyway.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 17:29, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
Feedback request: Engineering and technology Good Article nomination
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Hello, I'm a patroller from Turkish Wikipedia. I just saw
this revision in recent changes and wanted to ask you for a bit more detailed reason about this removal. Could you have deleted something wrong, or was this change made intentionally? I'll be waiting for your response, and then mark the revision as patrolled. Have a nice day.--evrifaessa❯❯❯talk 18:48, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Evrifaessa, thank you for the message. That was indeed an intentional change. Last week, we discovered on enwiki that a number of papers by that author (Lewoniewski) have been spammed by a complex spam farm, and the paragraph I deleted matches the characteristics of spam from that group (cited the paper "Multilingual Ranking of Wikipedia Articles with Quality and Popularity Assessment in Different Topics " and reported . I am currently working on a report about this, you can see
meta:User:GeneralNotability/Paper_sockfarm_AAR for what I have so far, and
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Lomtikov and
Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Refspam_across_many_articles for the discussions which led to the discovery of this group.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 18:58, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation, I marked the revision as patrolled. I wish you success in your work on sockpuppets, have a nice day :)--evrifaessa❯❯❯talk 19:04, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
What's the best practice for SPI
Hi, thanks for helping look into the SPI I opened. For future cases, what's the best practice if I notice additional socks for an SPI I've previouslyopened and already closed (blocked). Can I ping that same thread again with additional accounts and info? Or is it best to open a new one with a reference to the first/closed thread? Thank you. —
Infogapp1 (
talk) 21:34, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Infogapp1, there isn't a firm policy, but my general preference is that if the report is closed, you open a new report, but if the thread is not closed, you add it to the existing report. If the report is marked as "checked" you should ping a clerk or the checkuser who performed the check to let them know that you've added another possible sock.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 15:44, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
GeneralNotability When you say closed, do you mean once it has reached the archive stage? Or when the socks have already been blocked? Thank you very much for clarifying. —
Infogapp1 (
talk) 16:05, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Infogapp1, each section has a "case status" display. I'm referring to when it says "this investigation has been closed and will be archived shortly by a clerk or checkuser" (or something like that). Usually the case is set to that state at the same time as the socks are blocked. Once it's actually been archived, of course, you should always start a new section (don't modify the archives).
GeneralNotability (
talk) 16:15, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Armenian genocide (in Azerbaijani language) Semi-protection request
Then how can I request a protection for that? I can't seem to find any protection request pages in Azerbaijani wikipedia. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Sweetkind (
talk •
contribs)
Sweetkind, I'm sorry, but I do not know the process to request page protection on the Azerbaijani Wikipedia.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 20:34, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Thank you!
Thank you very much for the assistance and help guides!
Hello @
GeneralNotability: you have declined my rollback request on July 15
Special:PermaLink/968279859#User:C1K98V. And I was thinking if you could review my edits. I had enrolled in CVUA but was unable to find and report to AIV, but I'm willing to complete it as soon I find some edit which I can report. Meanwhile if you can suggest me that would be great. Thanks, stay safe.
C1K98V(
💬✒️📂) 13:17, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
C1K98V, I've reviewed your recent edits, and I'm willing to grant rollback on a trial basis for one month. I will grant the permission shortly. Remember, rollback should only be used in cases of unambiguous vandalism - when in doubt, use Twinkle's rollback and leave an edit summary.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 13:29, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for sparing few moment to review. I will keep in mind your valuable suggestions. Stay safe.
C1K98V(
💬✒️📂) 13:33, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #429
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
Video: Editing Wikidata with information from Son jarocho (in Spanish).
YouTube
Tool of the week
Entity Explosion: a new multilingual Chrome browser extension. "Taking the power of Wikidata with me wherever I go across the web!". Uses API calls to the Wikidata Query Service to match the URL you are browsing on to a Wikidata item, and then displays data and links to other sites about the same entity. (
Video)
Fixed a bug where a length limit for strings seems to have reverted itself back from 1500 to its default 400 (
phabricator:T259440)
Fixed a bug that Wikibase is not always adding &redirect=no in situations when MediaWiki usually does (
phabricator:T255387)
Wrapping up the initial work on the design system so it is ready for use in the first new feature (Query Builder)
Fixed the serialization of statements on Forms and Senses not containing the datatype (
phabricator:T249206)
Wrapping up work on the first version of Federated Properties so that other Wikibase installations can use Wikidata's Properties instead of having to maintain their own
Worked on ensuring the data from the linked data interface at Special:EntityData is always up to date after an edit has been made (
phabricator:T128486)
Enabling clients to use Lua to request labels, descriptions and aliases in some (often minority) languages even when they are not content languages (
phabricator:T259340,
phabricator:T260118)
I thought I did revoke tpa, but I guess not — apparently I only wrote in the log that I was going to. Funny, though... I could have sworn I ticked the box. Anyway, thanks for taking care of it.
Bishonen |
tålk 20:02, 17 August 2020 (UTC).
Bishonen, yeah, and your block message says "TPA revoked" too...oh well. Happy to be of service anyway.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 20:25, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
ArmoryNYC
You username blocked this editor, but they're now clearly editing as Aaron at The Armory NYC.
Beyond My Ken (
talk) 20:36, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Beyond My Ken, that's allowed - I only softblocked ArmoryNYC, so they're permitted to create a new account instead of renaming. I've dropped a {{welcome-coi}} on their userpage.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 20:40, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes, of course you're right. I deleted an edit, but I'll restore.
Beyond My Ken (
talk) 20:43, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
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Recent changes
If you revert an edit using the undo link your edit is marked with an undo tag. This will now only happen if you don't change anything in the edit window before publishing the undo. This is to keep users from marking edits as undos when they actually do something else.
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The new
OOUI version will not work with
Internet Explorer 8. This means the wikis will look strange and not work well in Internet Explorer 8. This was reported in
Tech/News/2020/17. This is because keeping the wikis working with very old browsers creates other problems.
[15]
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 August. It will be on all wikis from 20 August (
calendar).
Future changes
All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 13:30 and 15:30 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis next week. This is a reminder. You can help by
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Hi I just read your message regarding being directly or indirectly paid for the article I submitted. I hereby provide a disclaimer that I am not in anyway being paid for the article. I happen to a media specialist and I added a missing wikipedia page for a very well known Pakistani Actor Fahad Sheikh. I have not received any sort of benefit or numeration for this article. — Preceding
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The article
Shooting of Greg Gunn you nominated as a
good article has passed ; see
Talk:Shooting of Greg Gunn for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can
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Removal of cross-wiki spam in Turkish Wikipedia
Hello, I saw
this removal, but couldn't really understand why you removed Alexa. I know that you're removing bestref and Lewoniewski for good purpose, but why did you remove Alexa? Would you like to explain?--evrifaessa❯❯❯talk 18:59, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Evrifaessa, I just removed it because it was added by the same user in the same edit (see
w:tr:Special:Diff/22885314), that's the only reason. I can stop removing the Alexa info if you think that those should stay.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 19:01, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
well, I removed it again afterwards. as per the archive date of the citation, that info belongs to 2009. but i don't know what other patrollers would do when they saw your revision, anyways, as you got your temporary global rollbacker rights, you can keep going i guess. best wishes :)--evrifaessa❯❯❯talk 19:08, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
A strict reading of
WP:CUBL would be that changing CheckUser blocks to remove {{Checkuserblock-account}} is forbidden. Keeping this in the block rationale is necessary because there is a bureaucracy around undoing these blocks. Contact a CheckUser if you think the block rationale needs to be changed.
NinjaRobotPirate (
talk) 15:19, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
NinjaRobotPirate, sorry, that was a mistake on my part (I forgot to uncheck the already-CU-blocked accounts when performing the mass SPI blocks) - I know I'm not supposed to remove the checkuser block tag. My apologies, I'll try to be more vigilant about that in the future.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 15:32, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
(
talk page stalker) although I can't speak for GeneralNotability, I suspect this is due to leaving "Override any existing blocks" on. The tool overrides the block summary no matter what (regardless if it is a CU block) and I have fallen foul to this before. I'll suggest some modifications to the tool to help prevent accidental overwriting using the tool on the talk page for the tool.
Dreamy Jazztalk to me | my contributions 15:36, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Dreamy Jazz, yup, that's almost certainly what it was - maybe I should change that option to default off, or add in a safety check to not overwrite blocks with the cu block template in them.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 15:38, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Feedback request: Religion and philosophy request for comment
Thanks for catching the SPI network and this article that I'd been eyeing for a bit. I've gone through and excised much of the cruft from this article (I also moved it from "100.2 Fm Radio West" as the station has five total transmitters) and added additional sources. When/how should the UPE tag be removed?
Raymie (
t •
c) 18:12, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
Raymie, my expectation is basically this: if you've gone through the article, removed the cruft/questionable sourcing/promo, and are reasonably convinced that the topic is notable, you're free to remove the tag (recommend leaving a comment on the talk page when you do so).
GeneralNotability (
talk) 19:27, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
Feedback request: Engineering and technology Good Article nomination
Sarasua, Cristina, & Mietchen, Daniel. (2020, August). Multilingual Structured Climate Research Data in Wikidata - The Community Perspective. Zenodo.
http://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.3994272
Mietchen, Daniel, & Sarasua, Cristina. (2020, August). Multilingual Structured Climate Research Data in Wikidata - The Data Perspective. Zenodo.
http://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.3994266 (also
on YouTube)
Video: How to add missing descriptions to Wikidata using QuickStatments tool (in Arabic) -
YouTube
Video: Wikipedia Weekly Network - LIVE Wikidata editing #16
Facebook,
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Video: Introduction to Wikidata (in Malayalam) -
YouTube
Video: Wikidata editing basics (in Chinese) -
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Tool of the week
Sophox allows for SPARQL querying of Wikidata and OpenStreetMap in a single query
Other Noteworthy Stuff
Two new grant programs from
WikiCite, in support of open citations and linked bibliographic data.
Full documentation, eligibility requirements, selection criteria, program design principles, and contacts at the links. Apply by 1 October.
e-Scholarships [per-diem calculated on your city; 1-5 people (single, or as a 'remote group') for 2-4 days, for COVID-era "stay at home" projects. Paid in advance living allowance, no expense report required.]
Finished working on ensuring Labels of Items in some unusual, often minority, languages are still available on Wikipedia and other clients (
phabricator: T259340)
Fixed error messages for API modules that will not work with the first version of Federated Properties (
phabricator:T258558)
Working on improving how ORES judges the quality of an Item to make it more accurate
Started coding on Automated Configuration Discovery to make it easier for tool builders to make their tools work for other Wikibase instances as well
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The
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Welcome message, comment and /or warning from GeneralNotability to me
Hi!
Your message [Hello, MarieYolette, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.
I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was English as a second or foreign language, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason].
I am very familiar with the high level of editor sensitivity, as well as moderators, software programs, and bots. But I have no conflict interest in the field of English as a Second language. I neither work for, nor do I represent any entity in that area of work. I made some edits in the reference section, and added a document cataloged in ERIC (Educational Resource Information Center). I wrote that paper in 1989, but although a query for that article on Google pages led to a Wikipedia landing page, the article was missing from that page. Therefore, I simply added it.
If that is considered a conflict of interest, then, a different editor should add the title to free Encyclopedia: Fundamentally Speaking: A Focus on English as a Second Language (ESL)
Thanks,
MarieYolette, it is generally considered a conflict of interest to link to your own work. If you believe that it is worth including, I recommend making an edit request on the article's talk page to ask that someone else review it and add it if appropriate.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 15:14, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hi GeneralNotability,
I'm just putting together a short(very ish) summary of the interim case review committee from the charter, application page and the Q&A. Your question on process and the answer Maggie gave were quite key. I was just wondering if you had a couple of lines of reaction on it you wanted to add - it's not a "viewpoints discussion" but Smallbones felt it beneficial to ask for a couple of comments from those who significantly participated.
Nosebagbear (
talk) 17:47, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Nosebagbear, sure, but I don't have a ton to say. I thought Maggie's response was clear and helpful, but I was a bit surprised that the process was not officially defined at the time of the discussion.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 19:15, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Do you think this protection needs to be bumped? I'm looking at the disruption and thinking maybe?
—valereee (
talk) 01:20, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Valereee, I haven't been watching too closely, but from a skim of the recent contribs I'm guessing you're thinking about full protection since I don't see much disruption that EC would stop (aside from Jack Klee420, whose contribution history suggests they might need a NOTHERE). If you think it's necessary to go to full, I'm not going to object. I do see a few points of contention which are getting argued via edit summaries, but I'm a little iffy myself on whether this is so disruptive that full protection is needed.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 01:32, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
That was where I was, too. I'm waffling.
—valereee (
talk) 01:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Valereee, all right, let's leave it for now - I think if both of us are unsure then it's probably better to leave it.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 01:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Blocked for me
Why blocked for me I am not a Policy violation
MK0750 (
talk) 02:45, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
MK0750, you are not able to edit the main article space because you repeatedly moved a draft to the main space after being asked to submit it through the
articles for creation process.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 12:59, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
I Request to you unblock ID please
MK0750 (
talk) 14:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
MK0750, you may follow the directions in the block message to request an unblock.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 14:52, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=I have not a any policy violation}
MK0750 (
talk) 15:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
I see the user has decided to communicate shortly after having their draft declined. The question here is: Do you want to be unblocked from the mainspace so you can move this draft to the mainspace again? You have not made any improvements — first you submit it, then removed duplicate AFC submission tag, and then moved the intro text to above the infobox which is not where it goes, even though I said this twice in the edit history.
Steven (Editor) (
talk) 22:43, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Since you are the only active editor involved in this, I intended to move those articles into the mainspace, but there appears to some form of COI. I am not seeing it in the most current revision do you have an objections to mainspacing those articles?
Valoemtalkcontrib 22:23, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Do you disagree with my main spacing here? You have not responded nor thanked me for this, I've noticed you have responded to every comment on your talk page besides this.
Valoemtalkcontrib 23:29, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Valoem, given that you waited two hours between asking me and mainspacing it, I didn't think a response would matter. For what it's worth, I don't remember either of those pages after looking at their history, so no objection from me.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 23:57, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for getting back to me, I just wanted to make sure no COI was involved. I didn't think much of it first, but the current AfD I am involved in made me think twice about everything as the overwhelming consensus for deletion seems abnormal. If you are interested in what I am involved in you can review my history. Please do not engage in the current AfD as it appears to be pointless, but I intend to open a DRV regarding this (this has nothing to do with School's Out or Luàna Bajrami) if you would like me to ping you into the DRV, please let me know.
Valoemtalkcontrib 00:30, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Bedriczwaleta SPI
Hello. Since my filing of the
Bedriczwaleta SPI in August 26, there is some updates down the road. 186.111.128.0/20 IP range is now blocked by
Drmies and i believe 185.66.250.0/20 has done good faith edits recently, so i believe there is no action against them are needed. Could you consider checking the case again? If possible, i want to see this SPI closed soon with some actions taken mentioned in the SPI. I want to sleep, so i'm sorry if i have a hard time formulating my arguments. Thanks! SMB99thxmy edits 13:09, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Could you change the protection from Extended confirmed protection to Semi-protection?
Bob K31416 (
talk) 16:57, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Bob K31416, I only set the protection level to semi-protection a week ago,
El C is the one who bumped it up to extended confirmed
here. I am not in a position to unilaterally change the protection level, as I understand things - this was an arbitration enforcement action, and
the arbitration enforcement policy says No administrator may modify or remove a sanction placed by another administrator without: 1. the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or 2. prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a)
AE or (b)
AN or (c)
ARCA. This is as much help as I can give you - I have never tried to modify another admin's enforcement action, so I can't give you any advice besides "talk to El C".
GeneralNotability (
talk) 01:07, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
I was misled by an apparent Wikipedia software bug that indicates Extended confirmed protection on pages after you semi-protected the article.
Bob K31416 (
talk) 02:29, 31 August 2020 (UTC)