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Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).
Disclosure is the most important, and first, step. While I am not asking you to disclose your identity (anonymity is strictly protecting by our WP:OUTING policy) would you please disclose if you have some connection with Mulholland? You can answer how ever you wish (giving personally identifying information or not), but if there is a connection, please disclose it. After you respond (and you can just reply below), perhaps we can talk a bit about editing Wikipedia, to give you some more orientation to how this place works. Please reply here - I am watching this page. Thanks! Jytdog ( talk) 17:21, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Through email only. Have never met him. He contacted me a couple of years ago about something I had added to his page, asking that I not post material about his sexuality. Was familiar with his documentaries, he is a good director. Months will go by and don't hear. I have deleted material at his request, I admit it. He is protective of his personal life. More than once, he thought seriously about simply deleting his page. Wasn't worth the hassle he felt. I get alert notices when his page changes. just got one that someone added a personal life section with -- Mulholland is gay. Last night, someone added an external link to something he wrote for sage. this is what he hates. I don't blame him. first the external link and then quickly follows that he is gay, on his page. why should he have to put up with this? sorry about violating guidelines, did not mean to. Would like to delete the personal life and mulholland is gay, but am I violating guidelines? Mulholland didn't ask me.
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- Thanks for replying so nicely! OK, that makes sense. In general we don't base WP articles on what subjects want or don't want. We follow sources. We do of course do what we can to accommodate what subjects want, but Wikipedia's own policies and guidelines govern what we do at the end of the day (BLP articles would be garbage if they were dictated by their subjects). If you are not familiar with it, please do read WP:BLP. In the future, please don't make changes based only on what subjects of articles desires.... In any case, I am now watching the article about him, and removed the "personal life" section as it is was unsourced, per WP:VERIFY. I added the external link. Please see the article's talk page.
- That's all I have to say about the initial inquiry here - you do not appear to have an external relationship with him that constitutes a conflict of interest in Wikipedia. If you have any questions for me about any of this,I would be happy to answer. thanks again! Jytdog ( talk) 16:26, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks for the heads up, appreciated. Not sure I understand why it's unconstructive? Elaborates on reasons for rejecting the gay label. There is something of a movement among some gays in entertainment, publishing, fashion, etc., to reject being labeled gay. John Mulholland is a prominent example. It is a subject which is becoming more openly discussed within the gay arena. Collier09 ( talk)
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- I commented on the matter. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 05:33, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining your concerns. For me, the example is elaborating on the increasing complexity of the terminology of gay; gay as an adjective. What is happening with an ever-widening group of those who identify as gay is their reluctance to be tagged as a "gay" writer/athlete/actor/politician. Gay is gathering extra baggage as a term, especially when used as an adjective. Many gays feel it limits and marginalizes them. It's like Zadie Smith rejecting being labeled a "female" writer, pointing out that people don't call Hemingway or Stephen King "male" writers. Seems important that this be addressed at this juncture within the Gay page. Collier09 ( talk) 21:31, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
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