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Hi there! Just wanted to drop a line and tell you how much I appreciate your use of the edit summary field. Cheers!
NekoKatsun (
nyaa) 15:26, 7 January 2019 (UTC)reply
This is a poorly conceived
WP:SYNTH type of article, deeply flawed, and difficult to see how it can be rescued. It fails on choice and definitions of main headings; on the overall time period chosen; on the mismatch between figures cited (e.g. for 2010) against the alleged scope (C20 & C21).
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Tagishsimon (
talk) 21:40, 20 April 2019 (UTC)reply
@
Tagishsimon and
Andrew Davidson: I suppose I should state justf--koff, to one or both of you, but instead I send you this
justgetflux, which perhaps looks like I'm experiencing confusion, but actually is because it is a good for stress caused by screen light during the night and I found it helpful. Hope the situation resolves well, but actually I really am committed to the subject of human-cause deaths, and am motivated to write the article, because I think it is important that people are able to see the information and appreciate the significance of the data with regards to global events and motivations for human behaviour.
I have to retire now (to sleep) and won't be able to continue with the discussion till about midday tomorrow. I really urge you Tagishsimon to consider the validity of the article with regards to
/info/en/?search=User:Jimbo_Wales/Statement_of_principles, which doesn't contain anything especially which proves my position contrary to anyone elses, but is something which shows the encyclopedia was created for a purpose, and criticisms of articles should be directed against the validity of the subject not the quality of the article.
@
RoySmith:I was making additions in the article when you closed the article with a Rcat shell, so I had to retrieve the contents from the differences page instead of simply copying the contents from the article editorial screen prior to use of the shell. At the time of the shell I had sent a save, which resulted in a screen notification "Editorial conflict"; retrieving the contents was unnecessary time-consuming, to copy from the differences page because the text was including additional marks for use on the differences page, not found on the article editorial screen, so that I had to delete all these. Is not a criticism of yourself, just a courtesy, that you might check the History screen to see if there is an editor active in the article prior to shelling and to send them a message before using the shell. Not just for my benefit, but for the future benefit of any other editor in addition to myself.
Man, open
this page and tell me if you see a cat, tell me if you see the cat on the page, it could take a few times of returning to the page maybe, if you see the cat, hit me up man. If you see the cat, I want to tell you, I'm not that cat.
Sederecarinae (
talk) 16:55, 23 April 2019 (UTC)reply
April 2019
Please do not add or change content, as you did at
Health food, without citing a
reliable source. Please review the guidelines at
Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. See the talk page.Zefr (
talk) 18:25, 23 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Multiple article talk page forum shopping
Please stop adding
WP:FORUMSHOP comments to article talk pages. It is not how consensus is built. (
Hohum@) 18:21, 25 April 2019 (UTC)reply
thanks for your help User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång
Sederecarinae (
talk) 21:25, 25 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Talk page conduct
Your continued posting to
User talk:Iridescent despite being clearly requested not to is disruptive and bordering harassment. If you continue to revert their removal of your post, which they have every right to remove according to
WP:BLANKING, you will likely find yourself blocked. --
Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:16, 25 April 2019 (UTC)reply
oh okay I didn't see
WP:BLANKING, thought there was some scope for discussion on a subject at the talk page is all, thanks.
Sederecarinae (
talk) 21:19, 25 April 2019 (UTC)reply
you could help me if you're not too busy ? I have to go off-line in any case, but the discussion I wanted to have is concerning a deleted article, is there someone who could give me some guidance because I'm a relatively new wikipedia user, perhaps there are editors who could help me to understand wikipedia, like guides or something?
Sederecarinae (
talk) 21:22, 25 April 2019 (UTC)reply
The
Teahouse is full of patient and helpful editors, assuming you're prepared to listen to their advice.--
Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:25, 25 April 2019 (UTC)reply
I'd like to gain access to the deleted version, but it is unaccessible on my contributions
Sederecarinae (
talk) 21:24, 25 April 2019 (UTC)reply
I'll go and ask there, I'm not a troll, I just don't agree with policy, you could see for yourself on the meta: troll page > is not a troll > critics of wikipedia policy
Sederecarinae (
talk) 21:27, 25 April 2019 (UTC)reply
You're entirely free to disagree with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines on a philosophical level, but you must abide by them if you wish to edit here as they represent the consensus of the community. Continuing to make the same requests in multiple venues and displaying an
I didn't hear that attitute will quickly wear on editors' patience.--
Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:37, 25 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Category:A letter articles, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the
categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the
categories for discussion page. Thank you.
ReykYO! 10:33, 26 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Category:Unnatural death, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the
categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the
categories for discussion page. Thank you. — Bilorv (he/him) (talk) 12:40, 26 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Ending of activity for today
@
Beland: I'm closing my additions for today, and won't be opening to any additions again until the 27th. Since I made an error at the addition at 26 april 2019 at 18:23, deleted by Beland at 26 april 2019 at 20:01 = 1hrs 38 minutes, to
Manner of death. Thanks
Sederecarinae (
talk) 21:20, 26 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Editors can edit whenever they please; I don't need a personal update when you go to sleep. We're in lots of different time zones so there's not even any universal meaning to "today". --
Beland (
talk) 01:57, 27 April 2019 (UTC)reply
General communication on the subject
@
Beland and
Doc James: I was looking through Belands recent contributions to articles connected to "Manner of death", and found the existence of the
Cause of death article, was thinking about adding a merger to
Manner of death - in any case I found this
National Museum of Crime & Punishment > "When a death occurs, a physician or medical examiner must fill out a death certificate. In order to properly complete this document, they must determine three things: the cause, the mechanism, and the manner of death. There is often confusion about which is which. The cause of death is the disease or injury that produces the physiological disruption inside the body resulting in death, for example, a gunshot wound to the chest. The mechanism of death is the physiological derangement that results in the death. An example of a mechanism of death due to the gunshot wound described above is exsanguination (extreme blood loss).
https://www.crimemuseum.org/crime-library/forensic-investigation/cause-mechanism-and-manner-of-death/" There is no mechanism of death article
https://en.wikipedia.org/?search=Mechanism+of+death&title=Special:Search&go=Continuer&ns0=1,
Sederecarinae (
talk) 22:17, 27 April 2019 (UTC)reply
I actually just created the
manner of death article to clarify the cause/manner confusion, and I think we might want to wait a bit before merging them. It's unclear to me which jurisdictions make a cause/mechanism distinction, but it might be worth explaining on
cause of death. Some might just consider that the difference between proximal and ultimate causes. I'm not sure there's enough to say to warrant a separate article on
mechanism of death, since both cause and mechanism are medical in nature, whereas manner of death is a legal categorization.
Manner of death only mentions causes to explain the definitions of the categories; questions of epidemiology and biology are best left to
cause of death and
list of causes of death. --
Beland (
talk) 23:59, 27 April 2019 (UTC)reply
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the
guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Sandstein 11:34, 28 April 2019 (UTC)reply
I have read
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Non-natural death and your recent contributions to other pages and concluded that your conduct overall is so disruptive that it is a net negative to Wikipedia. You are only interested in pushing through your idiosyncratic views related to the coverage of human death at any cost, ignoring that literally everybody else tells you that this is not how Wikipedia works, either procedurally (cf.
WP:CONSENSUS,
WP:BLUDGEON,
WP:DEADHORSE), or on the merits of the content you add. Accordingly, you are indefinitely blocked. Sandstein 11:38, 28 April 2019 (UTC)reply
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an
administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the
blocking policy).
the nature of the reasoning made by Sandstein I'd like to know if it is possible for the blocking editor to show evidence of how the claim that my conduct as an editor is disruptive, that I'm "only interested in pushing through your idiosyncratic views related to the coverage of human death at any cost", "ignoring that literally everybody else tells you that this is not how Wikipedia works", on the subject of "the merits of the content you add" - the content I've added to
Manner of death of the seventeen edits made User: Beland after my contributions of 27 april 2019, none of the edits were reverted, this doesn't indicate to me that Beland considered my contributions were disruptive, who other than the blocking editor is claiming that my editorial behaviour is disruptive? please give the usernames of the other users to indicate support for your claim. Additionally if the blocking editor could elucidate this editor as to the indication of the meaning of the term "net negative" with repect to the conduct of this user. If I search on the internet I see on the first page "A condition in which a company's liabilities exceed its assets plus shareholders equity." vis-à-vis "and concluded that your conduct overall is so disruptive that it is a net negative to Wikipedia" Responses to these queries would be very much appreciated.
Sederecarinae (
talk) 17:05, 28 April 2019 (UTC)replythis users perception of this users editorial behaviour and conduct it is partially true my continuation of a position in contrary to a number of other editors, in the issue of argument for and against the existence of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Non-natural death, was an erroneously placed support for my own position - this I had already appreciated before the decision of Sandstein - by rights of my observation of an error in the introduction that "Unnatural death is not natural disasters" is not actually true, obviously I was in genuine error on that issue, and it is unacceptable to misinform readers (it was a choice I made in error, not by desire to misinform) ... incidentally before I continue to state my position on the issue of behaviour and conduct, please though refer to
Wikipedia:Overzealous deletion on support for my position on non-deletion. I consented to the decision of the article deletion and don't feel indignant towards the criticising editors involved, because the discussion benefited my understanding of the subject by the fact of the discussion being just that, a discussion. I felt it was unfair at the time, but after deletion I have sought to participate in an editorial process and accept the criticisms of other editors (specifically, only, Beland) in the hope of improving the encyclopedia.
Sederecarinae (
talk) 17:05, 28 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Decline reason:
I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that
the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
the block is no longer necessary because you
understand what you have been blocked for,
will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the
guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
(
talk page watcher)
[1]...over to
Iridescent perhaps. To my—limited—knowledge, only a few individuals have ever been banned from their talk page, and very few of whom were able to manage the feat within only a few months of joining the project as you have done. That alone should speak volumes.
——SerialNumber54129 16:48, 28 April 2019 (UTC)reply
The claim that I haven't reverted any of Sederecarinae's edits to
manner of death is untrue. In fact, I have removed a fair amount of off-topic content, restored good content that was (perhaps accidentally) erased, and cleaned up after a change that started making claims that were probably untrue. Here and there Sederecarinae has added some interesting sources and information, but also a lot of excessive detail (some in articles and categories that have had to be deleted, and some in articles I'm still pruning). Personally, I was also pondering requesting that they be banned for doing more harm than good, but I decided to wait and give them an opportunity to learn from the outcome of the deletion discussions and get more familiar with Wikipedia's editorial and social conventions through regular article editing and feedback. A lot of editors' responses during the article deletion debates seemed to
WP:BITE unnecessarily harshly, but then Sederecarinae also engaged in a lot of over-the-top argumentation, obtuse rambling, and childish foot stomping which is either really bad discussion skills or deliberate trolling. Despite more productive discussions on
Talk:Manner of death, the overly argumentative behavior continues above with what appears to be pretending to not understand the phrase "net negative", so I am disappointed. If this user remains blocked, it will honestly be a relief not to have to monitor their contributions. --
Beland (
talk) 17:46, 28 April 2019 (UTC)reply
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect
The effect of terror on the mind. Since you had some involvement with the The effect of terror on the mind redirect, you might want to participate in
the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. signed, Rosguilltalk 23:44, 25 May 2019 (UTC)reply