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I am deeply saddened that BrownHairedGirl and I were both unable to initially resolve our differences one-on-one at her talk page. I've re-read that exchange at least a dozen times to try and figure out where I could have defused things early on but I remain uncertain.
As far as the ArbComm case, my evidence is here and my analysis is here and I don’t have anything to add. Except that I remain surprised that BrownHairedGirl did not eventually submit at least some formal evidence because I'm convinced that would have led to a better and more nuanced outcome.
I have almost always appreciated BrownHairedGirl's substantive contributions and still proudly display a CFD-related barnstar from her on my user page. If you came here to congratulate me for her site ban or do any WP:GRAVEDANCING, you have badly misread me. Please take that junk elsewhere. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 13:06, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Please see the talk on Category:U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. I'm sure you are partial to the page you created, but I think it's less intutive than the one created for the FBI. I'm reviewing the law enforcement operation pages for the agencies to see if they exist and how they are named. My current knee jerk reaction is to use the naming as was for the FBI enforcement operations Category:Federal Bureau of Investigation operations.
That would mean going through and relinking each of the pages for ICE to the new category Category:U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. eximo ( talk) 17:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
I've looked at every page that is included in the Category:U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and there is a nuanced difference between that category and the type of pages it is included on and Category:Federal Bureau of Investigation operations. For example, Homeland Security Investigations, Basile Detention Center or any of the other detention centers, Death of Carlos Ernesto Escobar Mejía which are in the (ICE) category would not be included in the "ICE OPERATIONS" category. I think the category that is specific to the Operations for each of the Law enforcement Agency (LEA):
would be very beneficial. I found the category created for the FBI's operations most informative and desire to create one for each LEA.
So I'm less inclined to suggest a name change to your category. But there will be redundancy that is sure to draw the ire of a few purist. I'm apprehensive though if I go through with this, that somebody with more authority will invoke a speedy deletion on the project. What are your thoughts? eximo ( talk) 04:15, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Just saw the Hotcat update you made to the category, I'm not clear on what you did. What does the Pipe operator do in this category you added? Category:U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement|Operations. Any help to understand would be appreciated, so I can utilize the skill myself in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jiwhit01 ( talk • contribs) 09:16, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
@ Jiwhit01:
Sorry if my reply is too long; I get wordy sometimes! - RevelationDirect ( talk) 02:45, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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Hello, RevelationDirect. Thank you for your work on Kirkland Woman's Club. Cocobb8, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:
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The article List of mayors of Wilmington, Delaware has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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Hello, RevelationDirect. Thank you for your work on Coca-Cola Syrup Plant. SunDawn, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:
Good day! Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia by writing this article. I have marked the article as reviewed. Have a wonderful and blessed day for you and your family!
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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 03:43, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello, RevelationDirect. Thank you for your work on IBEW Building. SunDawn, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:
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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 02:44, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi RevelationDirect, thank you for your work on YMCA Sign. Another editor, SunDawn, has reviewed it as part of our new pages patrol and left the following comment:
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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 14:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi RevelationDirect, just wanted to let you know I've closed the requested move discussion on the talk page as successful and moved Metropolitan Club (New York City). You mentioned you would be interested in doing some of the cleanup associated with it, so this is a quick courtesy notice. The page Metropolitan Club is now a DAB page in the event the links don't get fixed. Cheers, microbiologyMarcus petri dish· growths 17:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi! My apologies for replying so late and on your talk page (my talk page got archived), but I am quite concerned by the destruction of a well though out category structure that mirrors the same categories for non-Sámi people and by the people doing it not having a clue as to what they are merging stuff into, even when it has been pointed out that the categories they are upmerging stuff into are not appropriate. If they spent half as much time looking for people to add to these categories as they do proposing them, there would be no need for a discussion. On the other hand, I am also annoyed by the fact that any attempts to discuss this on these proposals are ignored and usually sets off another round of deletion/merging requests for more Sámi categories to the point where I no longer want to participate in the "discussions" to save the few remaining categories that are left. - Yupik ( talk) 15:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
@ Yupik: You have Come to the right place! Not to brag but, after my foibles last year, I think I'm the best editor on Wikipedia to advise you on category drama.
We've both been on Wikipedia for a long time and remember when categories were important. But the Wikimedia Foundation chose not to display categories on the mobile view and, since most Wikipeda readers use phones and tablets, they never even see the categories let alone click on them. Instead, mobile readers see three auto-generated "Related Articles" at the bottom of the page.
That decision is frustrating to me, both because I've spent a lot of time on categories and because the what appears in "Related Articles" is so badly selected. The remaining editors at WP:CFD are caring and thoughtful but the process is less nuanced because there are so few of them as so many justifiably lost interest and weren't replaced. Just look at how much more well attended discussions were ten years ago!
I pulled up the oldest article and oldest category you created with the word "Sámi" in it:
I didn't look at the particular nomination you mentioned and don't have a substantive opinion, but I do recognize the level of frustration because I've been there. My advice is to deprioritize the categories and instead to focus your time on creating/improving Sámi articles, since that's what readers care about.
@ Callitropsis:, née SamX, gave me the same advice last year but I just wasn't ready for it. But maybe you want to invest time so CFD has a much needed additional voice, but just know it's a big effort. Either way, I wish you the best! - RevelationDirect ( talk) 11:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
{{bots|optout=all}}
on your talk page, it will block all bot notices. That would also include Women in Red and similar notices though. The tool being used for the automatic CFD notices is called Twinkle but I'm not sure if it calls some other bot to do that. You might try {{bots|optout=Twinkle}}
and see if that works. (Bots are way outside my area of expertise;
User:Pppery is a wiz with them though and is a helpful admin if you need more guidance there.)For me, when I'm having trouble with
WP:AGF with multiple editors, that's usually when it's time for me to take wikibreak, or at least to shift areas.
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