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Women in Red May 2022, Vol 8, Issue 5, Nos 214, 217, 227, 229, 230
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apologies, there are some examples of truly eccentric referencing at the lady lee steere and I have lost them all (the corrections) after the edit conflict, not sure I am going to try again tonight, but there is a major problem with identifying places against Australia when there are more than one... Needless to say I have a very distant and indirect and complex connection (in no way coi) with the subject, and was hoping to clean up a bit... It seems if I understand trove there were two lady lee steere's - but it might be time of night and my misreading...
try for size: - {cite news |url= http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article147732169 |title=LADY LEE STEERE. |newspaper= The South-western News |volume=XX, |issue=971 |location=Western Australia |date=10 November 1922 |accessdate=3 May 2022 |page=3 |via=National Library of Australia}}
Thank you for your understanding and explanation, much appreciated - I have a deep ingrained dislike of things like 'perth australia', but that's a long unnecessary story at this point - Thanks for cleaning up things, the story of lee steere family is an interesting mine of western australian history, and its good that there is some venturing into... Thanks again, I do hope I didnt seem too complaining, it has been, an interesting day. JarrahTree 16:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
I saw The First Academy coming up short and with natural instinct I marked it as a stub. I wonder how that wasn't? (not mad just curious as to how stubs are marked) GreenGrenier ( talk) 11:56, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for dialling back my axe swinging PamD, i'm actually fairly inclusionist (you have to be at WP India) but it was very late and those sources had already worn me down from a recent encounter. Not entirely sure what i was thinking about the church and school, i've seen the likes a thousand times in village articles, but in this instance they just felt a bit fancrufty.
I've restored three of the changes i made, such as directly citing the Cameroon Tribune (rather than the aggregate All-Africa), removing lede overcite re Fako (the cite is unnecessary as the Fako article i linked to (verified content) supports that Buea is a sub-division of Fako) and removing the Bakweri statement. That specific statement about the tribal majority is imo OR, based on more general information, and anything relating to group identity (tribes, caste etc) and a location has the potential to be contentious.
The excessive stub category was my bad, i got a bit mixed up between specific stub categories and the sitewide maintenance one which iirc previously had to be populated separately.
I hope the current revision of Lysoka Moliwe is agreeable and that you can see there was at least some reason behind the apparent madness. All the best, Zindor ( talk) 14:22, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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@ PamD: You don't think it is bare urls on this article. There is no publishing information on these sources. Its is 2022. scope_creep Talk 14:20, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Women in Red June 2022, Vol 8, Issue 6, Nos 214, 217, 227, 231, 232, 233
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Automessage deleted. Sorry - I've done the same as Alexandermcnabb above. Please disregard. (I thought there was enough sourcing to justify the article, but have asked for it to be moved to the commoner spelling over the redirect). Ingratis ( talk) 08:28, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for your edits to that article, I sensed I had something imperfect about it and it was that I did not catch the second edition, or I confused the 2nd and 3rd editions. I have the first edition here and think it is a fantastic book. I appreciate your edits. CT55555 ( talk) 18:40, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
" The first sentence should usually state:... Dates of birth and death, if found in secondary sources.... The opening paragraph should usually have dates of birth and (when applicable) death. These dates (specific day–month–year) are important information about the subject...". The caveat that follows is irrelevant in this case - the default position is to include them in the opening sentence, and your different personal preference is irrelevant. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 16:39, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
These dates (specific day–month–year) are important information about the subject, but if they are also mentioned in the body, the vital year range (in brackets after the person's full name) may be sufficient to provide context.) Pam D 16:46, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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In case you didn't spot the mention of it in a recent Signpost, I can highly recommend " Redactle" as a fascinating daily puzzle (changes at 5pm UK time). Guess a Wikipedia article with most of its text redacted. Simple. Those of us familiar with Wiki articles have something of a head start: I cracked "War and Peace" in 4 guesses by noticing that in the lead the "and" in "XXX and XXXXX" was italicised. Have fun.
Yesterday I had to cheat (well, seek help): I got that he was a German philosopher in 28 guesses, found that he was alive during World War I, then spent far too long filling in other odd words here and there before resorting to Category:20th-century German philosophers - and even then might have struggled but that he shared a forename with someone better known (one of those with an eponymous category). Other recent targets have included Skirt, Literary genre, William the Conqueror (got it in 3 having used a guess on "c" to confirm that that explained the format of the birth date!), Cannibalism, Lisbon, Plasma (physics) (which for a while had me looking for a country or region divided into four states...), Monosaccharide (took a l-o-n-g time), Shaktism (once I found it was a denomination of Hinduism, as knew I didn't know any so had a look at Denominations of Hinduism). Pam D 17:39, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size. [b]
In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).
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In regards to your statement: "Undid revision 1095091106 by 97.113.61.155 (talk) no, that single mention in a quote is not enough to need a hatnote- no-one will be looking for that article at that title"
The average price of a movie ticket in 1979 was $4.59. "Chairman of the Board" grossed a total of $181,233. So a little under 40,000 people saw Chairman of the Board. Meanwhile, the Norm clip in which he refers to said movie as "Box Office Poison" is sitting at somewhere north of 3 million views - and that's just for the latest upload. So it is inarguable that far more people have seen the Norm clip than the Carrot Top film, and thus may get confused as to what its title is. Thus, it is perfectly reasonable to have that hatnote, and I have the numbers to back me up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.113.46.235 ( talk) 09:28, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Women in Red July 2022, Vol 8, Issue 7, Nos 214, 217, 234, 235
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Hi, can politics.co.uk be cited for their year of birth? [1] [2]-- Mike Rohsopht ( talk) 05:54, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
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I saw your article for the Red Dress sadly too late to get it to DYK but its a great project.... and then the bike laser lady. Another intriguing article but maybe needs a pic for DYK but another fine contribution. (I have asked for some pics of the lights to be released on Flickr but I usually get a low success rate.) However I can always just give you a barnstar to recognise the great ideas you are highlighting. Thanks Pam Victuallers ( talk) 09:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC) |
Hi Pam,
The problem being fixed here is that the article is about a seafaring people, and the lead sentence as currently written makes it about the name. This is addressed in WP:UMD, with the closest example of misuse being either "is the name of" or "is a term for". This is also covered in WP:ISAWORDFOR.
If left as-is, then MOS:WAW would apply, and it should be styled:
Vikings is the modern name given to seafaring people...
But I think the more correct fix is to have the lead sentence address the primary topic (the seafaring people) and leave the etymology of the term to its own section -- or, a brief mention in the lead might say something as an aside, such as "(Vikings is a modern term, not used contemporaneously.)"
Regards, NapoliRoma ( talk) 17:50, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Pam, can you give me a Wikipedia reference for your statement in your edit to Are You Havin' Any Fun? that song titles are in quotes not italics. Now that you have brought it to my attention is see that is the standard but I cannot find a reference to it in WP:music. Thanks BuffaloBob ( talk) 16:49, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the review and update. Noted! I added the misconduct area to the article - Sarah Ejiama because the investigation was on the whole Molecular Oncology team lab in 2019 which Richard Marais led and I thought it will look otherwise if its not mentioned. Appreciate the correction :) Oceanview1590 ( talk) 15:38, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi Pam,
Do you still see a need for that warning template on the top of the article? It seems fairly balanced and well sourced now, thanks in large to your efforts.
Thanks, Crum375 ( talk) 22:22, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Sorry about the spelling issue, I actually switched it myself a couple of times back and forth while working on that paragraph, and somehow ended up leaving it in the US style (Victoria is actually just a few miles across the bay from Seattle, where the reverse spelling would be used :) ). Anyway, thanks for catching and correcting it. Crum375 ( talk) 22:36, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
PamD, I place high value on keeping a collegial environment on talk pages-- especially in what could become a highly viewed and contentious BLP. The "mild" allegation of ownership does not further that; all you had to do was ask, and I reverted. I strive to keep the article up to snuff while it is being intensely viewed. You may find that my editing experience has much more to do what I have seen in thousands of FAs (albeit with an aging memory) than it does with ownership. It's a desire to not appear to be a hypocrite if "my own" articles (eg where I have a high edit count) contain things that would not be accepted in an FA. I'd much rather we found some solid grounds upon which to make this decision, but as Alexbrn says, "not a biggie". Please let's not make it one; we have bigger fish to fry there :). Best regards, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:06, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
Women in Red August 2022, Vol 8, Issue 8, Nos 214, 217, 236, 237, 238, 239
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I've got into the habit of spending too much time on Wikipedia and plan to try to stop editing for the rest of August. I've contributed to all four of Women in Red's editathons for the month; the Wainwright Prize shortlists are online and the winner not announced till September; the Lakeland Book of the Year has been announced; there aren't any upcoming by-elections (I enjoy helping the Friday-morning-after-the-by-election scrabble to create a solidly sourced start article on a new MP); there are a couple of simmering discussions I ought to contribute to but they can wait. If anything gets onto my talk page I'll be alerted by an email. If something very interesting gets into the news (mostly BBC Radio4 Today) and isn't yet in Wikipedia I may not be able to resist the temptation to add it (as here, here and here). I have a house in need of a lot of work (but first, a lot of decision-making as to what to do), and a rampant garden, and piles of pending paperwork: I'm hoping that a month off Wiki might be productive. I'm going to log off, and move the "Watch list" and "Stub category" tabs in my browser's toolbar so that they aren't immediately visible. See you in September. Pam D 09:47, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Hello PamD,
After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.
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Well that got me curious. The Balkans and Cherokees I can understand, but could you clue me in on how rodeos got contentious. No rush...I see you are on a break. Best, WomenArtistUpdates ( talk) 00:33, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
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Well, I didn't manage to stay away completely in August but kept bobbing back in for the odd edit ... will try and stay away mostly for a another few weeks, having today created a nice little stub who ticks both the boxes for this month's WP:Women in Red editathons (being a writer with initial "E"). See you later. Pam D 10:38, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
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Thanks for creating and expanding the Wikipedia article on Olena Netetska. And welcome to the world of Ukrainian electoral systems... . Unfortunately because you are not familiar with the Ukrainian election systems over the years you did insert an error in Netetska's article. You assumed (I assume) that because she was elected in 2012 for Ukraine's 3rd electoral district in the 2012 Ukrainian parliamentary election she was also a representative for this district in the 2006 Ukrainian parliamentary election and 2007 Ukrainian parliamentary election. But the 2006 and 2007 elections were held according to the party-list proportional election system—that is, in a single nationwide electoral district. It is very common for electoral systems to change in Ukraine, the next Ukrainian parliamentary election will be again without constituencies, you might want to check out the Wikipedia articles on Ukrainian elections before editing about a Ukrainian politician. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 13:14, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
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We are now at 375 which is 10 away from a critical number-365. Critical because of there being 365 days in 2023 so if you're suggestion is passed of me being allowed to create 1 parish article a day it could be completed in 2023. Perhaps give or take a few, such as maybe a few I missed or new ones later formed but on the other hand some may be created by others or not need articles. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 16:51, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
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This article now exists, this means all parishes in Cumbria that are completely missing have been created (apart from the lands common one) though 5 are only redirects. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 20:05, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
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Best wishes for the festive season however you celebrate it, to all my talk page watchers. Have a happy and healthy 2023! And may you avoid the current upsurge in Covid: I've just got it for the first time, despite five jabs. Pam D 22:35, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
I see you were a librarian at U of Leeds so maybe you've searched stuff about kittiwakes in the last 3 weeks? Cornwall is at the SW edge of the birds breeding. So the species is not RDB but it's in Cornwall's BAP. We've had colonies at Land's End, at St Agnes Head ...and at Porthmissen Bridge (near Trevone just out from the Camel Estuary).... and other places. As you've no doubt found out kittiwakes up sticks and move - it's not a big job! The other species in these sea-bird colonies are not so significant. So my deletion of the reference to that coast path book was considered. Calc-flinta ( talk) 22:25, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
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I've submitted a new request at WP:ARCA, hopefully we can get closer to eliminating the missing parishes. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 17:54, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
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You tagged a reference towards Forbes in the article, mentioning that it fails to provide evidence for the claim made. The claim made in the preceding sentence is that Singh appeared on Cover pages of business magazines. The citation you tagged was introduced to provide evidence for this. The Forbes website cited shows the cover page of the hard copy magazine with Singh beinng the top left lady.
You probably do not know her, so you are questioning if any of the ladys shown is actually Ms. Singh. Well, her name is mentioned on the photograph of the title page itself. The text block on the left bottom corner: Vineetha Singh is written as the second name from top. I admit that due to resolution, it is difficult to see in the Forbes link that I added to the article. However, you have a better resolution, e.g. here: [5]. If you scroll down, you have a higher resolution photograph with the name clearly readable.
I hope this explains. Any suggestions from your side? Tomeasy T C 16:34, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hi. You are aware that the Locus coverage is of the Edgar Awards, not this particular award? In other areas, we require multiple in-depth coverage to show that the award is notable. There was an AfD just recently regarding a newly created Emmy award, which resulted in a redirect to the main topic for just this reason. Do not get me wrong, I sit here in my library of some 3000+ SF/Fantasy/Mystery books (the other 2000 are reference and non-fiction), so I am familiar with the Edgar Award, but one might postulate that the Emmy's are slightly more well-known. Right now there are only simple mentions and primary sources. But you know I have the utmost respect for you, so will respect your decision. Onel5969 TT me 22:22, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
As you are the expert on disamb and redirect pages for WiR, I have a problem. Gloria's legal name is Florence, i.e. newspaper articles about her appointments and the trial are found in that name, although Gloria is how she is typically reported. When I went to make a redirect for Florence Cameron, it goes to this page, which is unlike any redirect I've ever seen before, as it has specific categories to David Cameron. I don't want to screw anything up, but I think reserving the space for a 13 year old who may or may not be notable is an issue, when we have someone who is demonstrably notable and also has that as a legal name. I don't know if it is best to create a dismb page or how to proceed. Can you help? SusunW ( talk) 15:06, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Pam. Struggling to understand the intricacies of Wikipedia due to work commitments. I created a page on Milner Field a few months ago, that seemed to have been rejected and I kind of lost the will to live. I notice it is now live, with your name against lots of the activity. No problem with that, but I would love to chat to you (if only I knew how) to ask for a couple of edits. The first being you seem to have linked THOMAS HARRIS in my article to an incorrect THOMAS HARRISON - who was a different person completely. Would be happy to edit myself, but don't want to break whatever work you have done to make my page live. Thanks Andy Mac
(apologies, I also don't see a 'New Section' you reference when instructing people to contact you) Thanks again. Andymac1965 ( talk) 10:52, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for sorting that out. I'll add some bits later from my books. A very strange situation with that dab page! I went there about 12 years ago when it still had a vaguely regular bus service; while not exactly a metropolis, there's enough of interest there to pass an hour or two. Sadly the former Congregational chapel was demolished in the late 20th century. Hassocks 5489 (Floreat Hova!) 12:08, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
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Sorry on Laslo Djere|Laslo Đere redirect. As I looked at MOS, per MOS example shouldn't the item under Dere actually be written as "Laslo Đere or Laslo Djere (born 1995), Serbian tennis player"? The Jim Carry footnote seems to fit this example perfectly. Thanks. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 18:21, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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Hello Pam! I wonder if you have (access to) a British style guide? I only have the Chicago, which is US obviously, though actually very good at pointing out obvious BrE differences. I was watching an episode of Only Connect the other day, in which one of the clues was "Sinking of the Titanic", the natural way to say it to my knowledge. But on the WP page, allegedly "in BrE", this is written without the article "... of Titanic". To me this sounds simply wrong, or more precisely American. There was some discussion about it, but crucially in discussion of style editors are not required to have native competence of the language (version) in question. I imagine that to Americans "of the Titanic" sounds at least a bit unnatural. (They do tend generally to drop articles: "May fourth", "play piano" etc.) Anyway, ideally a UK style guide might give guidance on this (or might not, of course, since it's simply perfectly ordinary English). Current the MOS says something like "the [Titanic]" is "not technically wrong", which probably means "not US style". And I think that generally the description of British English that the template generates is totally US-centric, sounding like "Hey, you know the Brits use some odd terms, but well..." Actually BrE and AmE have different teminology (obviously), and different syntax (the AmE "if you would have" for "if you had"), morphology ("dove" and "dived"), different article use and so on and so on. And if you want a simply horrendous set of articles, there's "Grade n" for n from 1 to (not "through", which is "technically wrong") 9 at least. Mustn't ramble. Brian Imaginatorium ( talk) 06:19, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
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Hi I'm just letting you know that at /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#@PamD:_and_I'm_feeling_intentionally_stalked
I've opened a case about your recent comments and the way your constantly stalking me and finding faults I saw also your comment on South Parade and Witney on Wye on my talk page admitting you were looking to see what I was up to and sarcasm with the whole "hope your editing carefully", as if I'm gonna break the wiki.
I don't appreciate any of your comments and as a result. I've opened a case with the incident notices. If you wish to discuss further. Do so please on the link in this post.
Not on my talk page and I won't be replying on yours. I'm tired of being made to feel like a naughty editor all the time by yourself who is the only one to find faults then positives with me.
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@ GabberFlasted Please look again at your words: "
please be honest as I've no choice but to take you at your word". That reads, to me, as suggesting that I may not be trustworthy (you'll have to take me at my word, for want of any other choice ... meaning, for want of something more trustworthy than what I say), and that I might not be honest unless specifically asked to be. What else can it mean? Perhaps it was a careless choice of words, but it seemed offensive. Pam D 21:04, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
I thought I was unfair on my page, I was irritated by his characterisation of me. I have ignored him but I looked in on your page earlier. I checked one of his creations and conclude I don't think anybody actually reads what he's written and it will continue to go unchecked. If that's what editors want so be it, I am walking away. I really do hope you're ok. Esemgee ( talk) 22:59, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Pam. I've just spotted your note on the talk page of the above article. The note says that a year or so ago, you wanted more pictures of the hoard. However, the article and its commonscat now appear to have quite a few pictures.
The exhibition of the hoard appears to be continuing at Jorvik until the coming autumn, so I could go there and photograph it if you still feel that it's necessary. I'm guessing that what you want is closeups so that we can see its detail and work out how it was made, and that's the sort of photography that I like to do (like this one: File:Roman Museum 103.jpg). i'm willing to have a go, if you still feel that it's important. Storye book ( talk) 17:59, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
I'm really sorry, PamD, that you feel so upset about the discussions in connection with the editathon banners on the WIR talk page and on the the WiR template's entry. In particular, I hope my suggestions about more limited use of the existing banners is not the reason why you are considering leaving the project. As you have no doubt seen, I have been trying to oppose any changes in the hope we can continue using individual editathon banners as before. In my opinion, they have represented a strong attraction for so many of our contributors. Although I am no expert on technical issues, it seems to me the proposal from MSGJ is very sensible and could be a solution to keep everyone happy. To the best of my knowledge, we have not made wide use of the recognition feature which Headbomb is so keen to maintain. I am nevertheless reluctant to comment on his views as he has done so much to structure the entire system of our WiR talk page templates. On the basis of the most recent discussions, it seems as if we may be able to develop something similar to what MSGJ has suggested. I just thought I ought to drop a line here as I have followed with interest all the useful contributions you have made to WiR over the years and hope very much they will continue. Within the next few days we should be able to see whether the merge proposal has been accepted or rejected. And while I am here, perhaps you would be interested to see that The Nookster, one of our most recent members, comes from your part of the country. As she seems to share some of your interests, you might be able to help her along.-- Ipigott ( talk) 14:33, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
I am dropping by here to encourage you to take a wikibreak and deal with the other stuff. We will all still be here, being as lunatic a group as ever! I usually stop logging on for a couple of days when Wiki is more trouble than it is worth. Best. WomenArtistUpdates ( talk) 20:24, 28 June 2023 (UTC) PS - I have absolutely no idea what is going on with the templates, so am staying out of the fray. As someone (you?) noted in the comments, the issue is being called a big deal and not a big deal, so which is it???
Hello Pam. Gosh, you have a lot more perseverance than I do. I tend to get stuck in the mire of articles on bogus "uniquely Japanese" terms, like ikigai - actually I suppose Wikipedia is your ikigai...
Anyway, something that irritates me is that the article on The Titanic, despite the 'BrE' header, is written in US style, because the MOS says "ships do not get articles". Actually it says something funny like "the [BrE] usage with an article is not *techically wrong*", which often covers US ignorance, frankly. I thought perhaps the thing to do first is to change the style guide; I wonder about needing a reference. I have the Chicago Manual of Style, which is very good, and generally quite good a pointing out British usages, but can't find anything about ships. Have you got the Oxford or similar? Can you find anything to support it? Of course it has been in the news lately, and I keep reading the normal "The Titanic" version everywhere, but I'm not sure if that is enough for Wikilawyers. (I'll ping the other P @ Hoary:) Mustn't ramble... Brian Imaginatorium ( talk) 08:25, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
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I realised yesterday that I'd hit the qualifications to be a Vanguard Editor a while ago, so I updated my userbox accordingly.
Then today I noticed that my "total articles created in previous years" (excluding dab pages, surname pages, and redirects) at the start of 2023 was 967, and I've created a fair few articles this year. At a quick count, I reckon that Hilary Pole was my 1000th article creation: an amazing woman who didn't allow almost total paralysis to hold her back and who campaigned to raise funds for other people to get the life-changing POSSUM she used. (I see that's only a redirect to an article which mentions it in a caption: I think I need to work on at least a section, if not an article, on the POSSUM in Hilary's honour.) Pam D 13:33, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
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I'm quite honoured to be given honorary Sudanese identity :) (if I understood your comment correctly), but to avoid any concerns about cultural appropriation (which I think really should be called "cultural misappropriation" to distinguish it from the normal mingling of cultures), my only link with Sudan is through editing Wikipedia pages. In editing Ethiopia-related pages, I've also been awarded Tigrayan honorary identity, although in that case the intent was to assert my supposedly pro-Tigrayan bias. You could write "Sudanese-page editor" or "Sudanese-topic editor" or something like that if you want to bypass the identity question in a situation like this another time. :) Boud ( talk) 14:59, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Hi PamD! As you and I had good conversations about how to categorise Barum Woman and similar ancient/prehistoric women, I thought you might find this interesting news which you might want to write an article about: Caroline Davies (27 July 2023). "Isles of Scilly remains are iron age female warrior, scientists say". the Guardian. Retrieved 27 July 2023. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 10:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
The research findings are published today in 'The Journal of Archaeological Science Reports' and show the individual was female.Looks like this is it:
Bryher woman(lowercase "w") does show up 4 times in the paper itself, so I guess it would be a good article title. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 13:04, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
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For talk page watchers: See Audrey Fildes and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Audrey Fildes Pam D 14:14, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
Hello PamD, I am Paul, Audrey's son. I saw your "keep" recommendation and thought to send you a note. The lack of a Globe and Mail Obit noted by AB is down to me. I never submitted one and I would have been the one to do so. My mother died suddenly and it was a shock. I'm not sure if additional information is useful, but here are three recollections. 1. Audrey's Grandfather Sir William Goscombe-John did a bronze bust of her "Audrey, A Young Actress" which I believe to be in the Goscombe-John collection at Cardiff Castle. I have a photo in a box I could dig out. 2. Audrey was on the cover of British Vogue in the early 1950's. Sadly I don't have a copy. 3. Alec Guinness, with whom Audrey appeared in "Kind Hearts and Coronets" mentions her briefly in his autobiography "Blessings in Disguise." I realise Audrey is now a minor figure, but I would like to see her Wikipedia entry continue. Thanks for putting the time in to support keeping the entry. Paul SonsPaulandNicholas ( talk) 12:09, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
I'm logging out for a while : too much to do outside Wikipedia. I'll be back. Pam D 09:55, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi @ PamD. Could you have a look at my comments for you here: Talk:MACIF (disambiguation)#MACIF insurance company as primary topic
PS: I never know if I should post on someone's page or directly in the talk page. simon ( talk) 20:48, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
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We have lost an intelligent, collegial, and hugely energetic editor with whom it was a pleasure to interact. The encyclopedia will be a poorer place, and less well categorised, without her. Pam D 03:40, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi PamD.
I saw your question.
I don't know if I can thread in there somewhere, so I thought I'd respond to your question here, if that's ok with you.
There are those who seem to really really want a set number to these things. And while I understand that want, it's never worked and - to my eye at least - trying to "count" some number, has seemingly continued to cause disruption over years at CfD.
I think the question of asking "how many", is in and of itself a flawed question. And has been pretty much ever since the text was added. It's been re-written many times, but it still remains contentious. I just don't think something like that is really a "guideline", as I just don't think it really has "consensus".
I think the one place that most may agree is that this is something that varies by topic and implementation. Which, I think, is the source of the wording "part of an overall tree" (or however it's phrased at this given moment). But the phrasing of "small" in "smallcat", just seems to get in the way of that.
I think things like this are why we have discussions at CfD, and that we should be looking at categories and category trees based upon their merits and not merely upon a "count". That was the idea when Radiant! added the word "handful", and I changed that to "a few" back in 2006. But it's never really worked.
So as of right now, while I would welcome discussion on a replacement (and there are several people looking at this, I think), but I'm thinking that, whether there is a replacement or not, the current guideline should go.
I tried to more fully explain in these comments here. So maybe those may help as well. I really am hoping that we can hear from people about this. Because how things are now, is - in my estimation - just going to perpetuate more problems. And I do not want to see that.
Anyway, I sincerely welcome your thoughts. - jc37 18:40, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
There is a proposal under consideration which would disallow the creation of new categories, even in existing hierarchies, unless they have at least "n" (perhaps 5) members. Personally I think this is a dreadful idea. Recent categories I have created include:
In each case fitting neatly into an existing hierarchy of similar categories for other countries, districts, or universities.
If we are not allowed to create such a category for its first member, I don't see when it will be created: am I expected to trawl through a list of all African architects to see if I can find five Nigeriens (not Nigerians) before creating the category? The discussion is at Wikipedia:Merge for now and the discussion at User_talk:Marcocapelle#A_question clarifies that the intention would indeed be to forbid the creation of those categories. Pam D 07:41, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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On 20 September 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Julia Masli, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that clown Julia Masli (pictured) found success by shaking hands with audience members using her feet? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Julia Masli. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Julia Masli), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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In response to this edit. Please read WP:ELMINOFFICIAL. The external link section is not for interesting links about a subject. Just the official link (or in rare cases where there is more than one official link but they do not link to eachother, links). We can use the interview as a reference tho! Polygnotus ( talk) 01:44, 21 September 2023 (UTC)