but I like it ;) - I had an idea yesterday, to create an article, and found that it existed, and was created - yesterday!
Stonecrop Gardens, pics by me. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 23:30, 3 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you so much. I asked Menerke bloem who has flower in his user name. There are a few more on the commons, feel free to look there, too. Also at
my calendar pics. I know many flowers by German name, but neither Latin nor English, - all help appreciated. I also need help for the translation of today's topic
Spiel nicht mit den Schmuddelkindern.
[3] --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 12:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)reply
yes, and
his sister-in-law is on the Main page, so now to the song and album, and a translation of just the title, or rather "Schmuddelkinder", - the rest is fairly common stuff. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 14:42, 4 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you, took grubby. Do you have access to the whole article? Could you check if it has some more useful for the article? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:40, 11 January 2021 (UTC)reply
On 4 January 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gerry Marsden, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the
candidates page.
Stephen 20:35, 4 January 2021 (UTC)reply
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your
edit summary or on
the article's talk page.
Seems a shame in terms of complete discography coverage. When this was issued, in 1989, he's already issued 10 different albums.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:29, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Good Job the others are safe.reply
Nice ...
... to have you
back. Now, have you got my back? –
Sca (
talk) 17:59, 13 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Regarding your
edit summary question, your edits were right: all aircraft designations are hyphens, not dashes and not mdashes or ndashes, either. -
Ahunt (
talk) 20:40, 13 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Funky. I thought you'd be into something more upbeat – something you can move your
shoes to. –
Sca (
talk) 17:37, 15 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Ooh,
nice mix there! But if I had to choose one live performance, that's pretty much
inch perfect all round.... I guess I'd have to choose this one from
Montreux 1969.
Benny Bailey's two trumpet breaks are just off the scale.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:48, 15 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Truth be told, YT is not a big fan of the horn, though with some exceptions (from Handel to, say, Jan Garbarek). And there's something about the word Trumpet that just bothers me. Do you know about a word game called Lexulous? Don't bother with Wiki's lousy article about it. I'll send an email. –
Sca (
talk) 18:40, 16 January 2021 (UTC)reply
(
talk page stalker) Er, ahem, excuse me. Speaking from a totally dispassionate and professional position of No-COI-What-Me-Guv-Nah I wish to say that there is nothing bothersome about the word Trumpet as such. Indeed 99% of all rational, reasonable people would agree that it is among the most beautiful words in the language. When you start knocking letters off the far end, sure, there is a problem starting to develop. But
trumpet? Nah, lovely
DBaK (
talk) 23:51, 16 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Guilty. I admit everything.
DBaK (
talk) 20:44, 17 January 2021 (UTC)reply
How do we feel about the word
Trumpery, then? –
Sca (
talk) 00:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Our level of negativity about the similarity between Certain Words and Certain Other Words is off the scale. It's as if the world has carefully dreamt up a PR disaster for the trumpet-playing community, from which it could take decades to recover ... sigh ...
DBaK (
talk) 17:20, 18 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Although speaking as a detached and wholly unbiased professional, I was most gratified to see trumpets featuring quite heavily in the detrumpification, including a
moment by a mate, to whom, now he's even famouser, I shall shortly start sending begging letters, requests for endorsements etc etc ...
DBaK (
talk) 17:50, 20 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Happy Wikipedia 20, - proud of a little bit on the Main page today, and 5 years ago, and 10 years ago,
look: create a new style - revive - complete! I sang in the revival mentioned. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 17:55, 15 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Back to Ellis, should we try ITNN, or would you want to expand? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 15:27, 16 January 2021 (UTC)reply
He now shares the Main page with
a pic I took - thank you for the personal touch that you added to his article! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 20:49, 19 January 2021 (UTC)reply
An interesting video about him
here. Copyright status unclear.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:54, 19 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Admin
Ever thought about running for admin? I have looked at your block log and the one about sockpuppetry is a little concerning, but I'm willing to hear your explanation before rejecting you as a candidate. You've been around more than long enough to have a clue, and making mistakes along the way is fine as long as they are learnt from.
Mjroots (
talk) 09:17, 16 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, he is known to support this proposal. He loves BIG projects but is yet to complete one. What gets me, is that he never answers a question. Gareth Griffith-Jones (
contribs) (
talk) 12:06, 16 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Your edit to
Church of St Thomas a Becket, Shirenewton has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added
copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of
permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read
Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be
blocked from editing. See
Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. —
Diannaa (
talk) 14:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)reply
If only I could remember what I wrote. What did Earwig say? Thanks so much for the threat of a block.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:08, 16 January 2021 (UTC)reply
On 16 January 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gerry Cottle, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the
candidates page.
Dumelow (
talk) 15:34, 16 January 2021 (UTC)reply
On 16 January 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Osian Ellis, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the
candidates page. SpencerT•C 23:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Many thanks, Spencer. Denbigh County School football team's loss was
our gain, it seems.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:26, 17 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Couldn't believe he had no article in German. Now he does. Could you link that on Wikidata, please. It doesn't let me sign on. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 17:32, 17 January 2021 (UTC)reply
... nor Adeney (my article #4), Aronowitz (#5) and Weil (#6)! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 17:34, 17 January 2021 (UTC)reply
today see blue Vision pictured (not by me), with
Arik Brauer in the news, so art in Vienna twice --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 15:05, 27 January 2021 (UTC)reply
We urgently need a Wikipedia article on the famous neuorscientist, Mikhail Lebedev. Can you please finish the article on Mikhail Lebedev this weekend? It needs to be nominated as a good or featured article within 30 days. I Already started. Please see
Draft:Mikhail Lebedev (neuorscientist). — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
LotteryGeek (
talk •
contribs) 01:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)reply
I was going to reply to you but thought maybe I'd upset the more uptight editor-types putting a personal note on a bio talk page... :-) You are one of my fave Wikipedians and I always know the voice of reason is around when you're editing... Cheers! --
gobears87 (
talk) 23:53, 27 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah, gobears, that's very nice to know, thanks so much. Yes, I know
the type.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:59, 28 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Quick question: you might check my recent edit on a certain talk page... is there a place to complain somewhere about overly aggressive editing? I've been editing 12 years and it seems to get worse and worse, so many people who are trying to find some source of self-worth from aggressive comments and/or edits. I wish it was easier to nip in the bud - things used to be more courteous around here! Cheers :-) --
gobears87 (
talk) 21:52, 28 January 2021 (UTC)reply
FWIW after the editor left a personal attack on my talk page I just bailed out. Not worth the angst... sadly. --
gobears87 (
talk) 04:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)reply
p.s. oh geeez, seen the [facepalm] IP address comment & had to look and I see I am not the only one facing issues, though yours seem far more benign (lucky you!) --
gobears87 (
talk) 04:31, 24 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Wow. "Now, I don't know who pissed in your Wheaties..." ... "...you need to spank your inner child..." What a charming individual. That looks a little
over the top to me.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:38, 24 February 2021 (UTC)reply
(
talk page stalker) I'm just a bit troubled by this Wheaties thing. I hope you didn't eat them afterwards, Martin? It all sounds a bit unhygienic. I don't know what you Young People get up to these days, I really don't. Yours in bafflement,
DBaK (
talk) 21:05, 24 February 2021 (UTC)reply
I have now changed the ariticle using the old photos--
Lexprofi (
talk) 09:28, 29 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi
Lexprofi. Thanks for expanding the article. Your additions have more than doubled its size. As I wrote in my edit summary of 27 January, however, your re-write contravenes WP:MOS, in terms of layout of the lead section. Also, you've made no edit summaries to explain what you've done, so other editors may be a bit confused. I'd urge you to open a new section at
Talk:Jim Dine to briefly explain what you've done. Many thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:54, 29 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Sounds like you want them to dine-out. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 19:40, 29 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Trypto, you can dine out on
that joke for years to come. Well yeah, you know, dine out, or maybe, um
butt out!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:22, 29 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi there - just wanted to quickly thank you for cleaning up my additional anecdote about Hugh Dennis' name-changing debacle. I went and forth between about two or three different ways of wording the sentence and ended up getting mixed up between them all and ended up with something near-incomprehensible (as you know full well!) - thank you for clearing up my mess. Greatly appreciated.
Afreoleidddra (
talk) 09:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)reply
No worries. Glad we have got it sorted.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Dear Mr. Evans,
you have deleted my mention about the group “Musicbox” cover version of “My Boy Lollipop”.
Because I never published anything before on Wikipedia I am not fully aware of their rules and regulations. Maybe you are so kind to help me edit my contribution that it becomes “eligible” for you to be published.
The background: During my late thirties ( I am now 71) and always interested in music, I co-produced the German group Musicbox.
Their album: ‘The First Project’ was recorded at Music Park Studios in Bad Homburg, Germany with the help of notable musicians Harry Baierl (Boney M, Milli Vanilli) Michael Wyn (Nosferatu) and mixed by Frank Fahrian's Sound Engineer R. Tammy Grohe.
After listening to our demos in London, Virgin A&R Manager Muff Winwood (Spencer Davies Group) told me that he would like, but could not publish the song because they had just purchased the original rights. He recommended Canadian record company DINO Music which during Midem 1997 accepted to produce and publish an LP, a single and one of the first Cd’s ever for the German-speaking market. They also produced two Music videos and organized several radio and television appearances of Musicbox. Their version of the song was particularly successful because of the “Mickey Mouse” voice of singer Kali(mero). The LP sold about 20.000 units, CD sales have been marginal. The German Music publication “Der Musikmarkt” featured Musicbox with a story.
Thank you for your attention and consideration.
Respectfully
Thomas Martin — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
217.61.224.100 (
talk) 16:39, 10 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi Thomas. Thanks very much for your note and all that background information. The answer is quite simple, to be generally notable at Wikipedia we'd expect to have an article called "
Musicbox (German band)", or something similar. I looked but could not find one, even at German Wikipedia. Would you care to write one (for English Wikipedia)? But even if you did, I have to warn you that their version of "
My Boy Lollipop” might not be deemed "notable enough" to be mentioned at the song article, unless it has been mentioned in numerous reliable sources, e.g. magazine reviews or books on German pop music, etc. Does that make the situation clearer for you? Regards.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Dear Martin,I apreciate your fast answer and advice. I will think about writing an article about the group but for me, the songs had much more importance than the group. I grew up in the sixties and I think we produced very decent covers- in comparison to a lot of others. Would you like to receive a voice file? It's very difficult to get material from 1987, the internet was not developed. Anyhow, nice talking to you. I learned something today! Thanks — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
217.61.224.100 (
talk) 17:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)reply
You are very welcome. It's a bit of an odd situation to have a song that's more notable that the group, although I suppose this does happen for unknown bands that record the first version of a song, or for those that are "
one-hit wonders". In this case, of course, the original by Millie is certainly the best known one in the UK. Please feel free to send me a voice file if you wish.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:47, 11 February 2021 (UTC) p.s. the best place any new article or first mention might be over at de.wiki? They do at least have
de:My Boy Lollipop already.reply
Thanks for fixing that, I wasn't paying attention and did not realized I only removed the source, not the content!
Beach drifter (
talk) 19:40, 10 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Did you know that I do my daily exercise now of converting refs for Stockhausen's works - today
Adieu of all titles - in memory of
Jerome Kohl? Another one who died on the Main page today,
Vera Wülfing-Leckie, - a red link in the Deaths list, imagine. I went to the garden some great day in October 1996, remembered. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:37, 11 February 2021 (UTC)reply
pic not by me, but I made contact to the one who took it today - DYK that I took one of the scene - small, on paper - in 1996, enjoying a day there with friends and kids, the kids now married ... --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 23:00, 11 February 2021 (UTC)reply
That's
very interesting.... "Glittereyed, his rufous skull close to his greencapped desklamp sought the face bearded amid darkgreener shadow, an ollav, holyeyed. He laughed low: a sizar's laugh of Trinity: unanswered." ... as old JJ might say.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)reply
He composed some JJ, DYK? (Bulbulone (Finnegans Wake) - Arise (Chamber Music # 14) - Buzzard (Finnegans Wake)) - Today: two people on the Main page,
Arik Brauer and
Andréa Guiot. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Haha, I did not DYK that! How very ironic. Thanks for telling me.
"Sláinte!"Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:17, 17 February 2021 (UTC)reply
I have popped back into clarify the Keats/Harrow question. I wondered if you might be able to archive the
Keats talk page from start to around 2010. Most of the earlier chat isn't very relevant to the current article, and the page has never had sections archived before. I've been away too long to remember how to do it. If it's a faff, no worries. It's hardly vital.
About the Plath stamp question, opening up a 'popular influence' section etc seems to me to be an open invitation for it to be filled with all sorts of tosh. Not sure the stamp is that significant. I would tend to go for lean articles, but happy to defer to your judgement. I hope you are doing well and enjoying the WP life. Stay safe and well. Anna (
talk) 03:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi Anna,
I hope you are well. Thanks for popping back. Have done a manual archive. Do you think that's enough? Re
postage stamps:
"I love people. Everybody. I love them, I think, as a stamp collector loves his collection." — Sylvia Plath, The Unabridged Journals of Sylvia Plath Haha.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:45, 17 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Perfect. Thanks. I've tried to add a bit of clarity to the Keats legacy conversion question. Do you know the source for the historical currency gizmo? I don't think that was around when I was a lass. There is large discrepancy (£100 000) between the gimzo figure for the legacy and the National Archive estimate.
I have to say that when I pop back, I am amazed how close these original articles are to 12 years ago. I always assume they will have got trashed (esp the referencing), not no, not much. With big names, like Keats, they are generally improved. The WP system seems to me nuts, these days - incredibly time-intensive, so it's heartening to see a lot of personal work improved and remaining as it was referenced in the Keats article (2009-2012 ish, me surrounded by stacks of biographies from the library). Something is working somewhere. I suspect it is you. Lol.
Since I stopped editing at WP my eye problems are much better. It's a shame to have moved on, as I loved the writing of new articles in particular but the coding is just a killer - trying to spot a missing bracket. I now run a large neighbourhood network, and the experience of watching the WP community battle itself has been invaluable; if only for the toughening of skin. When you have been attacked for years on WP as a Romanian fascist, a Russian spy, a Grammar Nazi, a Mosad agent, British govt minister, homophobic ring leader etc etc, not much can touch you. It has stood me in good stead to understand the ways of the fearful (online) heart. It's also helped me greatly improve my writing skills and source analysis. Though I still can't spell.
Of the hundreds of poetry articles I overhauled, wrote or rewrote, I think John is closest to my heart. So, thank you for your care of him. He lived a few doors up from the house where I grew up (so to speak), so I think of him as eccentric neighbour in need of TLC and good cake. x Anna (
talk) 07:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi Anna. Thanks for your note and your valuable copy edits over at
John Keats. I have no idea of the source for the historical currency gizmo! There's more info at
Template:Inflation. That's quite a collection of
accusations you have there! I'm now wondering where that Keats residence was, haha.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:14, 18 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi God Save. I may consider it. Although I have already made a suitably agricultural comment.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:40, 17 February 2021 (UTC)reply
I saw the section header and had a moment of concern for you. But I trust your head is still OK. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 19:49, 17 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Oh good. But we have a limited-time discount for
ECT if you should need it. (Or
plumbing if it's that other kind of "head".) --
Tryptofish (
talk) 20:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks for telling me. I thought we had manged to avert this. But maybe time to take the
bull by the horns.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:38, 17 February 2021 (UTC)reply
I didn't see it when it first happened, because it had already been reverted, but... yikes. I would have (figuratively!) kicked that person's effing head in. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 22:18, 17 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Local library's money-saving "community event" (*social distancing not strictly enforced)
Hi Martin, if you have a UK public library membership, your card number might give you access to many interesting Oxford publications, including Who's Who. --
DeFacto (
talk). 14:08, 18 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi
De Factory. Thanks for the note. Yes, I think I did try that with my local library card number. It does work for ODNB, although not for Who's Who. But I'll double check. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:19, 18 February 2021 (UTC)reply
You are very welcome. I enjoyed the link too. I'm glad the author of my
previous misnomer here didn't also provide an illustrative link. --
DeFacto (
talk). 14:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Oxford recognises my library number, but access to the bio for "Captain Sir Thomas Moore", which is featured as the "What's New" on the front page, is not allowed. The FEATURED person is
Lord Cashman and access to his bio is free.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:07, 18 February 2021 (UTC)reply
You'll have to lobby your local council to give more of your money that they are saving by having the libraries closed to
Oxford Reference. --
DeFacto (
talk). 16:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Isaac is an honest Jewish man, but he recently found out his son converted to Christianity. This is no good, for Isaac is a devout observant Jew. This shouldn’t happen to a proud Jew like he.
So Isaac visits his friend
Albert and says "Albert, Albert, my son has become a Christian, what am I going to do?"
"Funny you should say that’ says Albert, "My son has also become a Christian, this should not happen to a proud, devout Jew like me. So they talk with each other and say "we'll talk to
the Rabbi, he'll know what to do."
So the two Jews visit the Rabbi and say "Rabbi, Rabbi, our sons have become Christian, what are we going to do?"
"Funny you should say that," says the Rabbi, "My son has also become a Christian, this should not happen to a proud, devout Jew of my status." So the three men talk with each other and say "we'll ask
God, he'll know what to do!"
So the Rabbi calls out "God, God, our sons have become Christian, what are we going to do?"
Suddenly a bright celestial light shines through the clouds and the thunderous voice of God rings out:
Regarding
your edit at WT:ITN, typically you should follow
WP:REDACT when modifying your comments if someone has already replied to them. No big, I just deleted my reply. In other cases, it might not be so elegant. Cheers.—
Bagumba (
talk) 09:57, 22 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, I had considered that. I wasn't convinced it was worth the effort, sorry. I guess if folks are interested they will just click on the link anyway. I took your comment as a clarification rather than a "reply". Many thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:08, 22 February 2021 (UTC)reply
February flowers
Today, we have a DYK about
Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, -
see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 19:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)reply
The
Greens in
Germany was a great idea. Well done Wilhelm. I have a great deal of respect for
Our Greens, and particularly for
Caroline Lucas, who is one of the few British politicians who seems to have a working brain.Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks for uploading File:Amateur Hour.ogg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a
claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see
our policy for non-free media).
watch today
Skylla and Charybdis (Waterhouse), please, see talk - if you want to listen: link on my talk, together with my first DYK, and one for the composer's 50th birthday --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 11:49, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
I listened live, and can still call it,
[7] - with one piece dedicated to the memory of a Welsh composer,
Dafydd Llywelyn, I think I mentioned that, --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:28, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
today (IWD):
MMMM with a reference to Carmen again --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 15:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Hattie: you probably talk to the Master. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 11:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)reply
All very mysterious. It seems I didn't realise that "adding unsourced material" actually means "Are readers considered so dense they need the same information repeating two paragraphs later?"
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Not mysterious at all. El C, archive 20. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 13:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Hmm. The sources look good: [1][2][3][4]Irving Kirsch has an article. So, it's well-thought-out and not vandalism. But it does look like spamming and editing against consensus. Best to discuss at one of the article Talk pages, to which the IP can be invited, but not sure which one.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:43, 4 March 2021 (UTC)reply
References
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
John Lee Hooker is indeed awesome. I watched the video of his song, that you linked to, and I'm particularly impressed with how he sang without moving his lips. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 20:32, 4 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Hmmm, yes,
Billy and Dusty not exactly leaping about either were they. Mr. Hooker obviously missed
his vocation.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:40, 4 March 2021 (UTC) Very glad you enjoyed that video. Really not sure why
Frosty the Snowman gets a copyright credit in the "SHOW MORE" section!?reply
Regarding Malaysian Airlines 370 Article
I have seen you twice reverted by changes to the article,
/info/en/?search=Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370_disappearance_theories, could you please explain whats wrong with it. While I am new to Wikipedia, so if I am talking to you at wrong place please let me know that too. I tried to add value to the MH370 article. Today Mh370 completed 7 years of disappearance, and I found this great article so considered it good to mention this article. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Adityamilyin (
talk •
contribs) 14:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi,
Adityamilyin. Thanks for your note. The best place to discuss your addition is over at
Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappearance theories. I had to repair the article as you had tried to added an unnecessary subsection heading at the top. But I also have doubts about the source you used and the claims it makes. Other editors may wish to discuss it. Regards.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi, well everything is misinformation considering the fact that the MH370 investigation never gave a conclusion, on to the point of me not mentioning sources, well I am new to Wikipedia, please advice how to properly do that, first of all I clearly mentioned that Ministry of Malaysia was still investigating the prospect of a possible atempt to make a call, and it is true that Co-Pilot's cell phone briefly connected to a tower. Secondly you mentioned the subsection, okay may be I should have added it as a part of some other section itself rather than creating a new section, it is clearly in the ATC records that Ho Chi Minh called after 18 minutes, while the internation rule is to do it within 5 minutes. And internation rules also say that a fighter jet should be close to the aircraft within 20 minutes, in case of a potential threat and loss communications. This is standard rule, it has happened with Helios Flight 522 too. The standard rule was not followed, and that too is in government records. The url I mentioned was just because I found the explanation of that URL really good and precise, else I have mentioned that the 18 minute delay was from ATC, and it is genreally known that no fighter jet was known, and the Wikipedia article had already mentioned that the inital searches werre in South China sea, but that information further just explained that if INMARSAT was used early possible debris could be found. Weather reports of same time also show that 2 cyclones happened in its approx crash location. Also, we do not have direct link for the government records, it is public but not directly available on internet, and weather report if you want I can add, by finding it from internet, nothing has been cooked up by me, and I mentioned that site, because the text I added in wikipedia was a direct copy paste from that site,
https://mily in.com/mh370-update-2021-what-happened-to-mh370-mystery/#11 the heading that says "Was the MH370 Shot down? Or was there any country that wanted to revenge?" has the exact text used in the wikipedia edit of mine, while it isnt a source, it definitely is a great explanation, also there is no need for worrying about plaigarism, I have the permission from the owner of that site to use the text here. Please suggest what I can do to get my edit back. Looking forward to your reply. Will Weather report, and removing subheading be enough?
Adityamilyin (
talk) 18:04, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
I came across
this when I noticed the editor disruptively editing some women's health articles. They are
not as new as they seem. Thought you may want to know.
CUPIDICAE💕 17:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah. Thanks for that. The same tiny, gnomic and seemingly pointless edits, supported by nearly incomprehensible rambling and overly-complicated explanations?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Pretty much. Yep. I told him if they were going to sock they should probably
work on being more coherent. Why they've chosen to mess up articles related to women's health with their nonsense, I haven't got a clue.
CUPIDICAE💕 17:46, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
No, not "lol". You know these are not acceptable sources.
This does not confirm "Some tedders have the rotating tines enclosed inside a solid structure to increase the force applied to the hay" or that the two you mentioned are similar to...similar to what? The YouTube videos don't confirm the text (and there are no words, and it's YouTube videos, etc), and so even if they were somehow reliable they don't source the text. Come on--this is silly.
Drmies (
talk) 19:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
I think the videos not only provide ample evidence that these machines exist, but also do a very good job of showing how they work. I'm also pretty sure that acceptable textual sources will be available somewhere. I expect, just like me, you're already busy looking for them. Until they can be located, I guess small adjustments to the text and/or adding back in {{cn}} tags would be perfectly acceptable. I'd have to agree with you that
that source is not a very useful one, so I've removed it.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Martin, that they exist doesn't mean anything, you know that. No I'm not looking for stuff. I already wrote the article, and dedicated it to
User:tedder, and I think I did a pretty good job. I see on the talk page that you showed an interest in this in 2010 already--surely ten years of research should suffice for finding acceptable sources.
Drmies (
talk) 22:07, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Dr. Mies, Very sorry I've scored such low marks after a full ten ten years. I must have got distracted. So, you "already wrote the article"? My hearty congratulations. Please dispense with any links to problematic videos that might mess up your dedication.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Uhh oh, what am I trouble for now? And can I use my username as a citation?
tedder (
talk) 03:56, 14 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes indeed. Rees-Zammit is joint leading try-scorer.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:12, 18 March 2021 (UTC)reply
About the F-16 WIKI page
The current wiki page about F-16's climb rate is completely wrong: It says the F-16C block50 has only 254m/s climb rate at sea level, and the source is its flight manual. However, I am not seeing any "254m/s" from its flight manual. However the manual proves that it sustains a 1200ft/sec (370m/s) climb rate even in a 4.2G ascending turn, which means it can sustain even higher rate in straight line climb!
https://i.postimg.cc/hthftrg7/Figure-B8-37-F-16-C-block50-supplement-manual.png Please let me correct this, otherwise it's misleading and will cause under-estimation of F-16's performance. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Oldtimesake (
talk •
contribs) 00:40, 16 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Very sorry to hear of the loss of
Yoninah, who always seemed to me to be the essence of good sense and friendly collaboration. I'm posting this tune, from
Luca Sestak, in her memory:
[9]Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:07, 17 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you, great music. I posted
Psalm 84, pictured on my talk. How lovely is your dwelling place. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:47, 17 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, the guy's a genius. He's 26! He was playing perfect
boogie-woogie to millions at the age of 11. He now shows that he also has amazing musical imagination. A lot like
that other jazz piano genius.
Yoninah was a great editor.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:54, 17 March 2021 (UTC)reply
She was. We wrote the psalm article together, made hundreds of DYKs together (often not agreeing), - my name is 40 times on
her present (truncated) talk, DYK? Look for "touching the world of angels". --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 23:01, 17 March 2021 (UTC)reply
"Touching the World of Angels is not a book about death, but about life – the precious, oh-so-elusive vision we all seek, consciously or subconsciously, to make sense of our existence." --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 23:04, 17 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Profound words. And let's not forget the rest of us
fallen angels (I assume this must be from the 2007 "Remastered & Expanded",
Max Bennett on wonderful bass) ...
footnotes.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 23:17, 17 March 2021 (UTC)reply
After nobody did, I wrote for the Signpost. - Today: Bach's cantata composed for today, - perhaps
listen. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 10:52, 25 March 2021 (UTC)reply
@Martinevans123, I'd like to expand upon James Watt's work on factious airs. There are several important contributions in the carbon monoxide space that should be mentioned on Watt's page. The page is protected, but it appears you have previous administered revisions. What is the best way to go about this? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
SloppyTots (
talk •
contribs) 02:07, 21 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Hello
Elahrairah. I can try and find one. Or you may be able to? I was basing my addition on the numerous radio, television and YouTube pieces on Rees-Zammit that I have heard over the past 12 months. The BBC commentary on the Grand Slam decider yesterday, would be a case in point. Do you know of anything different? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:36, 21 March 2021 (UTC)reply
The permutations are fairly straightforward, but for clarity:
If France win by less than 20 points, Wales are Champions, and England 5th.
If France win by over 20 points and score at least 4 tries, France are Champions and England 5th.
If Scotland win, Wales are Champions and England 5th.
If it’s a draw, Wales are Champions and England 5th.
If France win by 20 and score 5 tries, the championship is shared and England are 5th.
Woooo, 23–27. What a final match. Excellent refereeing from
Wayne Barnes. A great effort from both sides. Another win in the final gruelling moments.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:11, 26 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Wedgie
I just can't believe that
that article exists – and it's been around for 15 years. Inanity triumphs again. (Not that I'm opposed to inanity per se.) –
Sca (
talk) 18:23, 25 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, comforting isn't it. I see you have your own
wedge over in the colonies. Meanwhile, here's another
nice wedge for you. Might even be a
monkey there!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:35, 25 March 2021 (UTC)reply
now the music even made it to FA --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 13:42, 26 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Radio fun post
I deleted it because it was by a banned user. --
Viennese Waltz 13:12, 26 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah I see. Your edit summary was a very successful trap, it seems! And your last one is a
bit cryptic too!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:15, 26 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Sorry, I guess I'm guilty of assuming everyone knows what I'm talking about. VXFC stands for Vote (X) For Change, which is the username of the permanently banned user. --
Viennese Waltz 13:19, 26 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Hello Martin-- please check the talk page of the satellite image of the ship in the Suez. I have some concerns about it. (I will be away from my computer and won't be available for a few hours to discuss.) Regards,
Kablammo (
talk) 18:38, 27 March 2021 (UTC)reply
That's the same question the captain of the ship asked. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 18:51, 27 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Indeed. Yes, mercifully, the captain has not been named. Poor guy.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:56, 27 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the note,
Kablammo. It seems that image is currently coyvio. It has been taken from Twitter. It's clearly marked "MAXAR" and is credited to
Maxar Technologieshere. So I best take it out.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Hope the expansion pleases. The lead needs work, to fully summarise it, and I should lift more from the Pevsner, but it passed a pleasant Easter in lockdown. All the best.
KJP1 (
talk) 11:39, 5 April 2021 (UTC)reply
A great improvement, KJP. Well done! What's the general view on Galleries these days? Many garden photos to choose from in Commons. I visited about 10 years ago while staying in
Llangollen.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:48, 5 April 2021 (UTC)reply
The view now on Architecture articles is that galleries are very acceptable. I was slightly disappointed by the range, there don’t appear to be any Good Pictures in the set, and the few of the interiors are poor. I believe the NT doesn’t allow interior photography. But there are some very nice ones. Add with gusto!
p.s. To my shame, I’ve never been!
KJP1 (
talk) 12:17, 5 April 2021 (UTC)reply
The clipped yew is quite amazing. Like something out of Middle Earth.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:24, 5 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Looks like it might have been designed by
Čiurlionis. –
Sca (
talk) 14:34, 10 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I once had curly hair. Now I just have old hair. Unexpectedly, I've developed a fondness for
hats.
Haha. "Along for the ride are Little Cats A, B and C, who discover there’s wonder in nature once their electronic devices are powered off!"
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:03, 10 April 2021 (UTC) p.s. did
Martin Short really sing in that??reply
Labai gražu. And I haven't seen those dreamy sailboats before. I've always been partial to
"In the Forest." –
Sca (
talk) 19:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Heya.
The Bourgeois Blues is a magnet for people to add trivia related to "X artist covered the song". It seems that the Ry Cooder version was added to the lead by a drive-by IP. I have been trying for the past few years to trim the trivia but I missed this one. --
In actu (Guerillero)Parlez Moi 15:36, 6 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I see. Perhaps a better (secondary) source could be found that would establish notability of the Cooder version.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:43, 6 April 2021 (UTC)reply
The Telegraph / The Daily Telegraph
Hi there, just a quick note according the wiki article and the online version its self the publication seems to simply be called The Telegraph when in reference to its online version. The Daily Telegraph seems to be its in-print name. The "London" bit is just to disambiguate it from the other publications called The Telegraph (not too fussed just wanted to note/explain). Thanks for helping update/maintain the article regardless.
Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 22:13, 8 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I get confused over website=/ work=/ publisher=, and the format appropriate for each. I had never seen "[[The Telegraph (London)|The Telegraph]]" used before. I assume all of the news sources at that article are to web articles, so I guess we need to be consistent across all. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:19, 8 April 2021 (UTC)reply
p.s. that DAB page suggest it should be
Telegraph.co.uk (although why the upper case "T", I don't know).
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:44, 8 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Per
Template:Cite web Website and work I believe are identical and are aliases of each other. Publisher is company, organization or other legal entity that publishes the work being cited very often the owner. For example website=[[IGN]]|publisher=[[Ziff Davis]] Though often redundant when they have similiar names like: website=[[The New York Times]]|publisher=[[The New York Times Company]]. So is it okay if I change it back to The Telegraph for the website parameter as that is the name of the online website/work.
Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 15:20, 9 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Many thanks for that. I guess in the internet age newspapers want to shed the
"daily" straight-jacket. This is why the Daily Mail transforms into the "Mail Online". But the same old rubbish (only worse).
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:21, 9 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Great, no problem. Yeah that makes sense, I sadly do not get the reference though :/.
Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 18:11, 9 April 2021 (UTC)reply
If anyone deserves to attend the funeral, it might be these guys. But I'm pretty sure 30 members of family could easily be found.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:19, 9 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Oh, don't start on that jet aircraft business (
doo-oo-oo-oo-oo, etc) – it's clearly a De Havilland balsa-wood model!
JG66 (
talk) 17:59, 12 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you too for those. Yes William Lovelady was really most intriguing. For me the Parratt was unsurpassed and the most moving part of the entire service.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:48, 17 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi Martin, I have the colours for 1, 3 & 4 finishers yesterday (
see my sandbox)- the 2nd place was owned by a new syndicate "Racehorse Club" with crazy colours
[13] I don't see on commons, do you know anyone smart enough to make these kind of things. Thanks for updating (and defending the posting of) this article
JW 1961Talk 12:32, 11 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi
User:Joseywales1961, any relation to
Clint?? I wish I did know someone. After seeing that there are a total of 11,179 media images listed at
Commons Cat:Racing silks, I decided I didn't know how to search them efficiently or create any new ones if required. I guess our best bet would be to locate the editor(s) who created/ added the same at
2019 Grand National. As for the ITN nom, yes I know it's best to have a "prose description" (which is essential a summary of the entire radio/TV commentary) but the essential bits are which horses and jockeys ran and which horses and jockeys won?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC)reply
No relation, ha (just one of my favourite films). I went through the cat on commons so I'll try and contact some from previous years (or maybe a file uploader in that cat) Thanks
JW 1961Talk 13:10, 11 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Well,
Non nobis says "There are surviving copies of the Non nobis Domine canon in the hands of both Mozart and Beethoven." No WAM mentioned at
John Owen (Owain Alaw). But beyond that, I have no idea!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:24, 11 April 2021 (UTC)reply
We don't look for the canon but a Psalm setting in Welsh, and I can't do that. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 20:18, 11 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I now opened the other book (IMSLP). The piece in question is on p. 140, which is p. 144 of the pdf, and it's music in B-flat major labeled Mozart, but I don't know the piece. I guess he translated some psalm words to Welsh to match the music. Doesn't look like 18 verses to me. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:32, 11 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Oh well done, Gerda! Wherever did "Mozart" come from? I wonder if there is a Mozart scholar here who might know.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:36, 11 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Eric Corbett helped with the singer, DYK? Over which
he contemplated to use his real name. Why do we despise such exquisite editors? Hillbilly, Poeticbent, PumpkinSky, now RexxS ... --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 14:06, 13 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Gosh, a polite conversation. Yes, he was right, it was foolish. I'm sure people must have written essays about the social psychology of wiki usernames(?) A nice article though.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:11, 13 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Further down same page, and by then Eric, he told me "chin up", and Hillbilly gave me a poem and a tree, and I felt much less despised.
listen perhaps? - I found the recording by Scholl also, but it's awfully soft. DYK that I took the lead image and some of the others? Once - shortly before the Messiah performance - I chatted with
his wife during intermission of a concert standing in line for the loo ;) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 14:54, 13 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Now should I take that to my blushing corner? Or just reply with the
Weizenkorn? My first (of two) concert singing with Scholl (and then
his sister also) was the
Matthew Passion, when I stood almost next to him. Unforgettable. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 19:39, 13 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you for taking care early - from 2013 - of an article about music significant in my life,
Bach's motet Jesu, mein Freude! From the start to the Main page in 15 years ;) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 17:53, 15 April 2021 (UTC)reply
more memories
on the Main page today,
Psalm 115 thinking of Yoninah,
Christa Ludwig and
Milva, - voices that made the Earth a better place. Sad that the psalm hook didn't appear on Earth Day as planned, but better pictured and late than going unnoticed ;) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 13:08, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
A great Psalm. And talking of
profound passages, I guess
PTG and
David Conner have cornered the market in "Consider the rainbow, and bless the One who made it" for a while. But of course, it's not
Ecclesiastes (which only goes up to Chapter 12, not 43). It's
Ecclesiasticus, which doesn't even appear in my
RSV! Am surprised this unconventional choice drew such little comment. Or indeed
any.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:30, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
«Это Москва говорит, все радиопередатчики в СССР работают. мы получили новости от государственного информационного агентства ТАСС о первом в мире полете человека в космос.»
Glad you're back, v 2.o
Because Argumentum ad baculum just cracked me up and I truly needed the laugh this morning.
JSFarman (
talk) 18:14, 13 April 2021 (UTC)reply
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"Everybody's got a thing, B-bot. But some don't know how to handle it." Don't you worry B-bot 'bout a thing.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:56, 14 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Indo sub
Perhaps it was floundering around before it foundered? –
Sca (
talk) 13:59, 24 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Finding "parts of the torpedo tube straightener, cover for coolant pipings..", and its disappearance just after a live torpedo firing, does not sound too good.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:36, 24 April 2021 (UTC)reply
That's the way things go with a 40-year-old Unterseeboot, I guess. They probably got a deal on it. –
Sca (
talk) 15:06, 24 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Or should it be "found sunken" – you be the judge. –
Sca (
talk) 22:29, 24 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Have you seen the
video, shot on board weeks before the loss? –
Sca (
talk) 18:12, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I had not seen that. That's very poignant indeed.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:28, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
They were just guys, like guys everywhere. –
Sca (
talk) 01:03, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Indeed. But unfortunate there were 53 guys, not just the designed-for 34.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:44, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Yacht rock as a genre
Mr. Evans, I'm puzzled by your behavior. Is it possible for you to explain it? What do you hope to accomplish by using one of Wikipedia's more fascistic tactics, hiding the interaction between two people because you dislike it? You have this pretty picture of an angel on your Talk page and some sweet nothings about peace. Are you hoping the lion and lamb will lie down together in this world? I see little evidence of that, Father Evans, in this world, in this life, the one we interact with using our five senses.. If you had taken the time and effort to analyze the situation, rather than lazily dismissing it as "bickering" and a pox on both your houses, you would know whom to point your judgemental finger at. Dan is a net minus, not a net plus, to Wikipedia, and he has been that far way for a very long time. In your attempt to place some kind of arbitrary blame on both of us, you have ignored Dan's form of communication, which includes:
"Forgiveness and compassion don't seem to be too American either"
"Dude, go out and get laid"
"Or find a real job where you can actually make a difference. It's not the end of the world, or your world (i.e. America)"
"I don't care. No one cares. No one cares about what you think because you're belittling anyone who disagrees with your point of view"
"All your doing with comments like that one are creeping me out and embarrassing yourself"
"Those are false equivalencies, and a puritanical outlook"
"It's not a personal attack. And your response is still puritanical. Your point is irrelevant"
"It is more of an observation than an insult or a compliment, unlike your reasoning, which insults my intelligence"
"Another observation: being patronizing, or projecting your insecurities about content discussion onto me, will not expedite your desired change. Your comments are way too long, complicated
You're the only one giving speeches and personal essays"
"It's too late to make nice; he has completely turned me off with his incessant, myopic bloviating, anal rigidity and condescending, hypocritical remarks from the get-go, all of which I suspect are products of his obsession with removing a superficial project banner (that seems incredibly precious to him) and have blinded him from comprehending the basics of guidelines and policy-based arguments; one simply should not argue in the manner he has; it is unreadable and off-putting. I'm glad I'm not alone anymore to be driven crazy by his behavior, but I have no more patience for him on this matter."
If you really wanted to help, you would take the initiative and get this creature removed from Wikipedia. Vmavanti (
talk) 11:10, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi Mr Vanti. I make no pretence at divinity. I thought, and continue to think, that the "exchange" at
Talk:Aja (album) has no place at a Wikipedia article Talk page. Very sorry if you feel hurt in some way. I honestly think your "discussion" there and/or your grievances against another editor, need to be taken to a different venue. Rest assured I won't be editing that thread again. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:17, 26 April 2021 (UTC) p.s. but thanks for pointing out I'm lazy.reply
I like to fancy myself a god of sorts, and solemnly declare, anything that rocketh upon the land shall indeed rock on a yacht. But so too shall ye lose the verily low end to the heavens, rocking open-air on any deck, so lo, no! Now is not the time to play outside. Now excuse me. I must judge this creature you speak of, accordingly, per mine own great whims and mysteriously lazy pace.
InedibleHulk (
talk) 12:36, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Why are you butting in? You think you're funny, but you're not. Vmavanti (
talk) 12:51, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Excuse me. Are you retrospectively
butting in before me? Or is it after? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:08, 26 April 2021 (UTC) reply
"Very sorry if you feel hurt" is dismissive rather than analytical. It isn't about my feelings or anyone else's. I don't care if you contribute to the thread. It isn't the discussion that is a problem. It's Dan's behavior. You could make a difference—if you wanted to. I have seen no comments, other than my inchoate analysis, about why it's acceptable to use this offensive, false term "yacht rock" all across Wikipedia. The point of Wikipedia is to provide facts, not to put down the subjects of articles. People who use this term think they are being cute, but it's dumb. The same kind of thing in other contexts stirs paroxysms of fake moral outrage and selective indignation. Nope, not here. If it's the old red herring about protocol and location ("How dare you to talk to me on my Talk page!"), then where should this subject be addressed? Vmavanti (
talk) 12:51, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Oi, Inedible... take that, limey yacht lover
I absolve that beautiful creature you hated, not even kidding.
InedibleHulk (
talk) 12:54, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Seems you're not a huge fan of yachting, then. Do you see yourself as "the lamb" or "the lion" in this particular exchange? Thanks.
"Father" Evans 123 (
talk) 12:56, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
British periphrasis and circumlocution are my favorite forms of stupidity, avoidance, and cowardice. Vmavanti (
talk) 13:05, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Perhaps we can agree that The Sound of Music wasn't yacht rock. Am tending towards lion, but happy to take a second opinion.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
If I had a yacht,
this would be heard loud and clear. ---
Sluzzelintalk 21:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC)reply
(just in case) ... I mean, yeah, John Coltrane, but goodness, McCoy Tyner. Full blast on my yacht! ---
Sluzzelintalk 23:12, 2 May 2021 (UTC)reply
I don't know about the ranty-vanti stuff, Martin, but I have to take issue with your comment "I make no pretence at divinity". I mean: It is He! –
Jai Sri Martin!! (or Martini perhaps, yacht rocking and all).
JG66 (
talk) 13:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Well, I know you are, Father Bon-Mots, I know – just as I gather the Lord loves the one
that loves the yacht!
Out of interest, is that Wings album London Town yacht rock? It was partly recorded on a yacht, by a rock band, and waterways appear in the cover art. Problem is, the album's often described as
soft rock ... so: "Soft yacht rock"? – perhaps the genre's developed and widened in scope? This just seemed the place to raise the point, here at YR Central, that's all. I don't know, I don't know ...
JG66 (
talk) 14:20, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
At least there's a
cafe on the left bank, apparently. It's a shame that InedibleHulk set sail with
HMS Aja. a) I thought they were funny too; b) they might've been able to shed some light on this confounded yachtie rock thing. Perhaps I'm just wearing the wrong shoes.
JG66 (
talk) 15:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Well, I was thinking about going a-yachtin' – and indeed, a-yacht-rockin' – in
this sort of get-up ... no? See, I'll never get the hang of this genre.
JG66 (
talk) 15:54, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
"We never had a cup. We used to drink out of a rolled up newspaper." A great mix there - Brian would be
thrilled.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm really offended that this guy keeps calling me Dan. That wasn't even my real name.
isento (
talk) 15:19, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Wow @ all those quotes at the top 😂 ... I must not be a "net-minus". Might be why I haven't been site-banned. At least
one of the reasons ...
isento (
talk) 04:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
JG66, I'll try to be clear. First, I'm not "them", just one man/child/deity. Second, I can't define yacht rock precisely, but it's somewhere between
wuss rock (as heard in department stores) and
butt rock (formerly headlining cruise ships). Third, I didn't so much set sail as fall asleep; if you've heard "Sail Away" from Fraggle Rock, though, you know moon shoes, deck shoes and fuzzy bunny slippers fit about the same.
InedibleHulk (
talk) 03:24, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
And before anyone files a hate speech complaint, I love quite a bit of butt rock and wuss rock! It's the fusion hits I deem "weak-ass noise". Some streams were never meant to cross over.
InedibleHulk (
talk) 07:29, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Not here, I see "Video unavailable" (and "Captain of Yo").
InedibleHulk (
talk) 08:10, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah, ok then....
Full steam ahead !! (I'm sure you'll be able to find your own copyvio version on YachT-watch). Was never a hit over on your side, I think. But great "foghorn, ship's bell and Morse code" and "psychedelic treatments including electric sitar, backwards piano, filtered vocals and phasing"!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:51, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I found the band on Spotify. Under 3,000 monthly listeners, nice! Can't find that song, but "I Can Hear The Rain" and "I Can Tell" this ain't rock at all, it's a ballroom blitz. Catchy, this next one, she kissed him on Thursday. Don't strike your link, though, other limeys can probably watch it!
InedibleHulk (
talk) 09:08, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I haven't tried my Tube yet, could have a copy or two. If your link was from the legit owners, it could be a licensing deal. They like to regionalize us on Earth, for some reason.
InedibleHulk (
talk) 10:10, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
It's just uploaded under "Reparata and the Delrons - Topic", but clearly states "Provided to YouTube by Sony Music CG". I'm currently having a discussion about this with Ojorojo at
Talk:Wang Dang Doodle, if you are interested.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
That makes sense; Sony Music is big over here, but there's simply no such thing as Sony Music CG. Google indicates it's very Euro, if anything.
InedibleHulk (
talk) 11:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Well, that's interesting. Regardless of copyright, adding YT links that just don't work in some countries will be a bit of a waste of time and just a source of frustration.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Sadly, yes, for some niche songs. Go global or go home! You could add them with a fair warning for some readers, though, parenthetical or whatnot (your Wang Dang Doodle is showing from here).
InedibleHulk (
talk) 12:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Put that wang dang doodle away right now, and zip up your pants! --
Tryptofish (
talk) 15:46, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Else have a central location where proposed YT links could be vetted both for copyvio and global access? Of course some folks don't really want a pristine encyclopaedia sullied with "social meejah".
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:25, 27 April 2021 (UTC) ... as long as it's not
My Ding-a-Ling that's showing, I don't care. reply
Any right granted from plain old UMG or BMG is probably good everywhere we're "sold", but our own copyright rules can be confusing, even then.
InedibleHulk (
talk) 12:33, 27 April 2021 (UTC)reply
We at
BIG ED should warmly welcome other sectors' worldwide monopolies, as long as we're not driving traffic to stuffy academic videos or free trials for pills said to treat or prevent "
brain fag".
InedibleHulk (
talk) 05:17, 28 April 2021 (UTC)reply
We at
BIG FAG warmly welcome other sectors' worldwide drug monopolies, as long as they're not trying to make an encyclopaedia
SO DULL that everyone has a
BIG SLEEP. --
"Pile M. High" 123 (
talk) 06:46, 28 April 2021 (UTC)reply
John Keats
I trust you, Martin! Go ahead and write it as you feel it's best. Brian
Bmcln1 (
talk) 11:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm amazed at how
that turned out. A soft answer turneth away wrath? –
Sca (
talk) 13:14, 29 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes indeed. That was a real breath of fresh air. Very good of him. If only more editors could be like that, the encyclopaedia would be much
happier place.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:24, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
[20]reply
Hey, I've been meaning to ask: Have you climbed
Yr Wyddfa lately? –
Sca (
talk) 12:49, 29 April 2021 (UTC)reply
It's been a few years! But I'm sure that story will not have escaped the attention of
User:Hogyn Lleol.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:53, 29 April 2021 (UTC)reply
And on that subject, Everest isn't known by its Tibetan name, Chomolungma, meaning goddess mother of the world. Its name comes from Colonel Sir George Everest, a surveyor-general of India He was born in
Crickhowell. Gareth Griffith-Jones (
contribs) (
talk) 14:23, 29 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Maybe it will be
Denali-ized? –
Sca (
talk) 14:46, 29 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I can safely say I've managed to scale the main bar of
Bear Hotel, Crickhowell without oxygen or crampons. (But ok, yes, I did need three sherpas to bring me down).
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:51, 29 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi Martin, I hope that you're well - it's been a while since I've been in touch. Any idea about how to respond here - other than by promising to replace every single personal pronoun used in the Wikipedia project prior to, say, 2018?
Talk:Lunch_atop_a_Skyscraper#Gender_identity_of_the_people_in_the_photo Best wishes, Jez
JezGrove (
talk) 20:00, 10 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi Jez, great to hear from you. Also hope all's well with you. I would have thought that, in 1932, men were allowed to express their true gender identity... by becoming construction workers on the
30 Rockefeller Plaza skyscraper. But who knows. I also think it's unlikely there'll ever be "sources that prove how they gender identified". Even if there were, I'm not sure how that might be relevant to their job as
ironworkers. We could probably assume Gusti Popovič was a real
post-card writing married man (he was after all, a
lumberjack). But who knows about Joseph Eckner, Joe Curtis, Natxo Moneta, or cigar-smoking Matty O'Shaughnessy... or the six others who's names we don't seem to even know.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:58, 11 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks, Sca. That May 1998 San Jose clip quite excellent. And after 35 years, not quite so
freewheeling.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:23, 14 June 2021 (UTC)reply
See
my talk today, - it's rare that a person is pictured when a dream comes true, and that the picture is shown on the Main page on a meaningful day. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 10:33, 30 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Do not change Latin to English
Do not change the Latin word mansio to the English word mansion. They have different meanings and link to different articles.
173.18.56.34 (
talk) 04:03, 8 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you, Gerda. Some lovely images. I found this excerpt from the Vivaldi No.6 Bb, with Silva Manfrè at the organ of the Piaristenkirche St. Thekla in
Vienna (2010):
[25] There's a beautifully light and airy "L’Ange gardien" by
César Franck, from just last Christmastide, at her Facebook site which I think you might enjoy:
[26].
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you, - friend cellist (and subject of my first article) and friend organist picked the same first movement (and the second), - new to me. Will add YT to sonatas article which was sadly undeveloped. Sad job: update article of another
soprano who died (possibly I heard her but don't remember), then write about orchestra of
conductor who died (sure I went to concerts with him). --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 07:42, 21 June 2021 (UTC)reply
sorry, don't find the guardian angel --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 07:44, 21 June 2021 (UTC)reply
I can se this facebook page and the other, but no "ange". --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 10:44, 21 June 2021 (UTC)reply
She posted it on 16 December 2020.You can search for "Franck" on that page. It's also in her "Latest videos" list. 😃
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:56, 21 June 2021 (UTC)reply
finally ;) - thanks for your patience, and beautiful --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 11:28, 21 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Couldn't you have worked vainglorious in there somewhere? But perhaps verisimilitude would be the real challenge in his case. –
Sca (
talk) 19:50, 24 June 2021 (UTC)reply
I had
toyed with "volatile and vexatious valetudinarian self-vanquishing veteran". But thought it was a bit too
verbose. Not to say frightfully
vulgar.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:33, 24 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Matt Hancock
"It's red hot, mate. I hate to think of this sort of encyclopaedia getting in the wrong hands. As soon as I've finished this, I shall recommend they ban it."
[1]
Please keep your opinions to yourself when editing articles.
The policy on biographies of living people applies to edit summaries as much as it applies anywhere else across Wikipedia. Your co-operation in this matter will be appreciated.
Mjroots (
talk) 13:02, 26 June 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm very sorry that you feel the need to blank an edit summary and make such a blunt request here. I don't make a habit of such political comments. I'm not sure you'd be able to find another in my 177,265 edits. My opinion of Hancock has dropped far lower than I even thought possible. Yes, I think he's a hypocrite.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:36, 26 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Martin, you were reported an
WP:AN. Whatever we feel about certain people (don't get me started on the
Milk Snatcher)), if they are living or recently deceased then BLP applies and we need to keep our emotions in check. As you are an experienced editor generally in good standing, I considered the above reminder would be sufficient without then need to take it any further. FWIW, I think that Hancock should resign, and I hope he will be gone by the end of June.
Mjroots (
talk) 15:13, 26 June 2021 (UTC)reply
"Mj", I applaud your diligence in an administrative capacity. Looking forward to my notice of the AN posting ("lol"). I do hope you won't think I'm procrastinating, but unlike all other edits, of course, edit summaries can't be adjusted later, only rev-del'ed, and then only by an Admin? Ah right, "generally in good standing"; it may be time I
sat down. You think you need to "take it any further"? I suspect none of this band of incompetent half-wits will be gone
for years yet (Government MP's I mean, not Wikipedia Admins). Now, if you'll
excuse me, I have a prior engagement
in Amsterdam. Kind regards.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:49, 26 June 2021 (UTC)reply
My word. That is frightfully amusing. Did someone say
glove puppet? "Verily, verily,
Dominic, thy Cummings Cup runneth over."
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:28, 26 June 2021 (UTC)reply
FTR, I didn't notice because I didn't think action against the editor was necessary (if I did I would've tried ANI); people make occasional off-hand comments. I just felt that the summary needed to be revdelled. Usually I'd
request offwiki but IRC is usually a ghost-town at that time.
ProcrastinatingReader (
talk) 18:46, 26 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah cheers,
Crasty. It seems my slagging off has brought
all the boys to the yard. I love
wrestling as much as the next man and I might well have done just the same as you
in your shoes. Thanks to
Speedy Rootzales over there, my opinion of Hancock "didn't reflect particularly well" on Wikipedia only for 2 hours and 11 minutes. A quick null edit would have knocked it off the top of page history immediately, of course. As that
Andrew Neil of
GB News said, "In the future, everyone will be a hopeless Tory politician for
30 minutes."
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:21, 26 June 2021 (UTC) p.s. did someone mention a
ghost town??reply
It's a bit like England going out to Scotland.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:51, 28 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Filtering usernames
I've asked about this before when I've tried to avoid seeing the anti-Daily Mail crusaders who just leave a trail of shite behind them. There are some tweaks you can do to your monobook (fnar fnar) but nothing inherent in the Wikipedia interface. With the "tagging" user doing around 20 pages per minute, and with 10,000 pages on my watchlist, I've fallen foul of being overwhelmed by their edits.... Good luck finding that filter, if you work it out, let me know.
The Rambling Man (
Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:03, 30 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Lardy? –
Sca (
talk) 12:34, 1 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, I know. Rather draws unfortunate comparison with the "
Princess of Pork" (who shall remain nameless, of course), doesn't it. I think it's to do with the Germans indulging in too many
umlauts?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:43, 1 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Grandma used to make umlauts with cheese and sauerkraut, seasoned with caraway and dill, that just couldn't be beat – unless you had a
shtick, that is. –
Sca (
talk) 18:53, 1 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Errrmm, you're probably thinking of something that happens after dinner at many of Britain's finest
public schools.
Also, continuing from some of
above, one can see what spotted dick looks like at our page on Chancroid. (I deliberately did not blue-link that, because it is not a link for polite society, nor for the faint of heart.) --
Tryptofish (
talk) 20:33, 1 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Eeeeewww. Fortunately (for all of us) I think it was only Hancock's hand that
was spotted.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Truth be told, ever since I heard of spotted dick, I can't get it out of my mouth. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 20:39, 1 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Actually, caraway, dill – and black pepper – are the flavoring agents I use in making my own
Akvavit, using a good grade of
Polish rye vodka. Helps beat the heat (or the cold). —
Sca (
talk) 22:12, 1 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Archive 15
Anyone got any ideas as to why Archive 15 for 2021 won't appear in the Archive box?? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:21, 1 July 2021 (UTC)reply
I think it's because the archive page 15 does not yet exist. When I search for it, it shows as a red link. I guess you can either: (1) create the page manually (leaving it blank and waiting for the bot to fill it in, (2) just wait for the bot to create the page, or (3) do whatever makes the bot run now. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 22:07, 1 July 2021 (UTC)reply
No worries, some people think that I am brainless. But I just created the archive manually, and it now displays above! But all the archive page says is "test", so you'll have to change that to an actual archive. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 22:17, 1 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Did you have to choose a church with quite so many listed memorials!
KJP1 (
talk) 13:48, 3 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Hah! Wow, you've been busy!! I had no idea. Have visited only once. And then it was locked! I see from this
1834 source that the village was also spelled in 1821 as Llangarran?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:53, 3 July 2021 (UTC)reply
... well, I might prefer it. But all I see is "Video unavailable: This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." lol
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:47, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
reply
It's the song titled "Best One Around," from the '68 musical Hair, that includes the lyrics "crazy for the red, white and blue." –
Sca (
talk) 18:44, 5 July 2021 (UTC)reply
June continued ... last year's flowers match the image on
the user page nicely,
see? - DYK that her last reply to me was in a thread
Green for hope? - The DYK set in honour of
Yoninah appeared yesterday, including
Psalm 85, with the kiss of justice and peace - we wrote that together.
More music:
2 songs, the morning song - about rising from being down, in more than one sense - is a GA, - there should be more given my initials, but I also want to care for articles of
those who recently died (now
Esther Béjarano), and
psalms in memory of Yoninah, - more missing than there. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 16:52, 16 July 2021 (UTC)reply
– How many schoolgirls can there be in Nigeria? —
Sca (
talk) 18:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Quite a lot, I imagine.
This report, from 2014, said "Over 5.5 million girls are out-of-school (UNESCO, 2014)"!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:41, 6 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Jan Broberg Felt was kidnapped twice in deepest, darkest Idaho. First by a relatively young man. Then, two years later, by the same older man.
InedibleHulk (
talk) 11:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC)reply
There's whitebread ratings potential in Ali: The Ali Story, but creative has nothing for the other 275, send them home.
InedibleHulk (
talk) 12:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah, yes. For a moment there I thought it was this Ali Story, about the bad old days in the
1970s "lol".
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:20, 10 July 2021 (UTC)reply
The LP/early CD version on Speaking in Tongues shows 4:22. Is 4:22 not the length to use since Speaking in Tongues came out before Stop Making Sense?
73.167.238.120 (
talk) 22:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, I thought that too. But then I read: "The song's single version was a live version from the soundtrack of their 1984 concert film Stop Making Sense, named for a lyric from the song." Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:02, 6 July 2021 (UTC)reply
p.s. curiously, watching the clip from the film uploaded to YouTube by "Lucaas", I see it lasts 5:11.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:38, 6 July 2021 (UTC)reply
There is crowd noise in the clip, which adds to the length of the video. Thank you for clarifying about the single!
73.167.238.120 (
talk) 09:24, 6 July 2021 (UTC)reply
No worries. Stop Making Sense is a great film. Electrifying. I went to see it three times (in a real cinema, lol).
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)reply
I agree, Stop Making Sense is unbelievable!
73.167.238.120 (
talk) 23:01, 6 July 2021 (UTC)reply
...but an interesting choice of a replacement for Raheem
on Sunday.
Please, please tell me you didn't really say "cum on"! (Although I'll admit to being a bit of a
sea squirt myself.) --
Tryptofish (
talk) 22:50, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"... was kept secret until its unveiling as if it might be wildly provocative. Looking through the artist’s previous oeuvre, I noticed he has a taste for the nude and created a statue for the late
Felix Dennis called Lord Rochester, His Whore and a Monkey. That raised the fascinating prospect of a naked Diana for everyone to get furious about." --
Jonathan Jones, The Guardian. "... a spiritless hunk of nonsense"?
Don't worry!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:52, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
The
lollypop also available in glittery sliver, I hear. But you know
what they say... so Paul Francis Gadd is off the hook. Ian, great to see your editor
credibility, as Wikipedia nonce expert, taking a
nose-dive here.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:20, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
[33]reply
This can be yours for only £11.99! So many photos like this in the archive, but since nobody is allowed to see them on television nowadays, there is a tendency for young people to wonder what all the fuss is about with Savile.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 12:34, 13 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, it's official: "Kevin is the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel"
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Greetings. The passage you restored on this article blatantly violates
WP:PEACOCK. It isn't necessary to claim he is widely regarded as anything, or that he is often described as anything. The first paragraph of the article already establishes that he is one of the better players by way of presenting pure fact. This is how articles are supposed to be written. Adding the peacock passage does nothing to improve the article, and detracts from the real facts of the player. It isn't necessary, it's redundant, and potentially misleading. I am removing it again. Please do not restore it without providing a
reliable source that supports he is "widely" or "often described" as anything. Further, the way in which you attempted to add sources to the passage, by way of "[157]" for example, is not the way we add sources to an article. In particular, if you want to use a source that is already used in the article, you should read through
Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Repeated_citations on how to do this. If you have questions about this, let me know. But, again, please don't add this
WP:PEACOCK passage again. Thanks, --
Hammersoft (
talk) 15:02, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Hello Hammersoft. I didn't "restore" anything you had removed. I added two different statements that are already in the body of the article? I actually agreed with your removal (as I explained at the Talk page). I added fully sourced material. The "facts" of De Bruyne's career are why he is "widely regarded as one of the best players in the world and he has often been described as a "complete" footballer." But the making of those statement are also facts in themselves. As far as I can see, all of those existing sources, which are given in the text, are
WP:RS. I have no intention of edit warring, so there's really no need for you to request I don't restore. I am well aware of how to add sources properly, thanks: the "[157][158][159][160][161]" was a cut-and-paste error that I evidently did not have time to fix (and I thought that might have been obvious). This is a content discussion that is best discussed at
Talk:Kevin De Bruyne. That's why I specifically opened a new thread and requested, in my edit summary, that we do that? Thanks so much.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:19, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
I just don't see the point in adding it. The article is already gushing about his accomplishments (and well deserved). We don't need to add the peacock terms. Its redundant and meaningless in the context of so many other superlatives. --
Hammersoft (
talk) 17:18, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
I see. Then we'll have to agree to disagree. You have your opinion. I have mine. If someone is considered to "the best" at something, I think he deserves to be described just like that. Compare with
Ronnie O'Sullivan, for example, which open with ".. is an English professional snooker player who is widely recognised as one of the most accomplished and talented players in the history of the sport." That's in the very first sentence! I think it's a matter of choice, not not a matter of "we don't write articles like this" policy. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:31, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Then we disagree. There's a reason we have
WP:PEACOCK to guide us. --
Hammersoft (
talk) 00:55, 9 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, it's "guidance", isn't it. As far as I can see, my addition was simply "imparting or plainly summarizing verifiable information." If it's a question of prominence, it could neatly be added at the end of the lead section. If it really is "peacockery", you'll also need to remove to from the main body of the article, together with those eight sources that support it.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:00, 9 July 2021 (UTC)reply
File:Aleksis Kivi statue.jpg listed for discussion
A file that you uploaded or altered,
File:Aleksis Kivi statue.jpg, has been listed at
Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the
discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you.
✗plicit 13:03, 10 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks for uploading File:Rocky Mountain Way.ogg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a
claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see
our policy for non-free media).
B-bot-a-Lula, you're my baby. Thanks for that. It's not really an image, but never mind. It looks like that sneaky old
Binky removed it from
Rocky Mountain Way (song)here three days ago with the rationale "(removing non-free audio listening example per
WP:NFCCP... no "contextual significance" has been supplied)". And I thought the file had all the necessary justification. It does seem to me to be "contextually significant" to an article about that song. Perhaps we ought to just add
this 8 minute live version from Joe's VEVO?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:50, 17 July 2021 (UTC)reply
I have been removing a bunch of non-free audio files from articles, ones that don't have any description of the audio heard in the file. Such a description is needed per
WP:NFCCP number 8. To make this file comply with the requirement, a description can be attached alerting the reader to any part of the listening experience, for instance lyrics, instrumentation, production techniques, etc. Specifically on this file, which doesn't have any talk box sounds, one might focus on the vocals that are equalized to be thin like a telephone call, or the slow pounding rhythm, or you could tell about the words "couldn't get much higher" based on
the Rolling Stone piece. The Jake Brown book Behind the Boards II has something from
Bill Szymczyk about how Walsh first came up with an instrumental "blues-shuffle" recorded at Criteria, then stripped down to drums alone at Caribou and rebuilt from there, adding lyrics to make the final version we all know. Walsh is described as having layered about "six or seven" guitars on the recording, playing through a small amp with one
Shure SM57 microphone aimed at it. Szymczyk says the thick guitar sound is from Joe himself, not from studio trickery.
See chapter 1 of Brown's book. There's a lot of stuff there.
A second but minor problem with the audio file is that it shows up as 31 seconds. The maximum allowed by
Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music samples is 30 seconds. Perhaps it needs a touch of trimming.
Binksternet (
talk) 18:18, 17 July 2021 (UTC)reply
There certainly is a lot of stuff. That's practically a whole new article section right there...! I can easily add something to the upload justification. I might even have a go at chopping off
a whole second. Or maybe I'll re-do to include a bit with the
talk box. But then, as I said, if we've got the whole thing available via VEVO/YouTube... why bother??
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:25, 17 July 2021 (UTC)reply
So I've uploaded a new version, trimmed to exactly 30 seconds, and I've added "contextual significance" to the upload rationale. I've also started a "Production" section at the article. However,
this upload at YouTube, at the Joe Walsh - Topic channel, is marked "Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group", so I'd suggest adding that complete track as the official audio instead. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:21, 18 July 2021 (UTC)reply
But this all begs the much more fundamental
epistemological question: "can music ever be fully described in written words?", to which most people would almost certainly answer "No."
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:58, 19 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi, yes this particular single is a bit tricky, though the site is the official Dutch charts database, it usually cites US and UK release dates. when I checked the label, it was not a US release, so I removed the '6'. though it's safe to assume the single was released around that time, as it charted on March 14 on Billboard — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Ray1983a (
talk •
contribs) 19:55, 17 July 2021 (UTC)reply
after checking the catalogue number for the source, 'Reelin in the years' turns out to be the German single, so altough it was the official release date in that country, I don't know if it would have a place on wikipedia as The release date, probably better to use US dates when available. this was the reason I checked these dates again — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Ray1983a (
talk •
contribs) 21:49, 17 July 2021 (UTC)reply
See the details for the released parameter at
Template:Infobox song. I assume for a single by a US band we would generally use the date of release in USA. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:11, 17 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Why have you removed the fact that Bill Gates invested in an Israeli "security" company headed by Isabel Maxwell? Please explain that. --
CarlPhilippTrump.me (
talk) 16:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Hmm, well, overlooking the grammar issues that I mentioned in my edit summary: "deleting last para which looks like
WP:SYNTH and also has grammar issues", I guess it was because the item said that Isabel was "the sister of
Ghislaine Maxwell, which is accused of being Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirator in trafficking child sex slaves", and you're topic banned from editing about
Jeffrey Epstein? But this subject is probably best discussed, with the other three interested editors, over at
Talk:Bill Gates#Multiple paragraphs connecting Gates to Jeffrey Epstein? By all means ask over there. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:16, 23 July 2021 (UTC)reply
July 2021
Your edit to
Ulting Wick has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added
copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of
permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read
Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be
blocked from editing. See
Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. The material should be rewordable; please let me know if that is not the case.Yeeno (
talk) 🍁 21:07, 23 July 2021 (UTC)reply
(
talk page watcher) Looks to me like templating the regulators. But I did look at the page history and talk page discussion, and it does look to me like it should have been paraphrased more than it was. Happy gardening, everyone! --
Tryptofish (
talk) 22:24, 23 July 2021 (UTC)reply
By all means show us how it's done over there. Perhaps we should paraphrase the names of the magazines? But good on Yeeno for watching that article so closely (?) Must be a
keen gardener, I guess.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:51, 24 July 2021 (UTC)reply
A quick personal note saying "maybe try adjusting that paragraph because it looks too much like the original, thanks" might have a more positive effect.
I used to make the effort of reporting possible copyvio to those editors who spend most of their time fighting it. But a few too many bare templates threatening a block saw my retirement from the copyvio Stassi.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:36, 24 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"S'no biggie, dude" (as those young tearaway Millennial snowflake kids would have it, no doubt). But I have asked about those two sources on the Talk page. Cheers.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:38, 24 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Did Richard Feynman use post-nominals?
You reverted my
to the Richard Feynman page. Is there any evidence that Feynman cared about and used post-nominals? I doubt that he did. Also, his name is unique enough that the post-nominals aren't needed as a disambiguation tool either. I checked that the ForMemRS (as well as any other) post-nominals are missing from the article about Albert Einstein. I think that Richard Feynman deserves the same treatment.
Leon.Manukyan (
talk) 17:29, 24 July 2021 (UTC)reply
On 29 July 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Dusty Hill, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the
candidates page. SpencerT•C 16:49, 29 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"Just let me know if you wanna go, To that home out on
the range."
He sang lead on
this one. Tejas was their career highlight for me. Not a remix or a remaster or a synthesizer in sight!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:12, 29 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you for caring about him! Had
the tree person, and two Polish musicians lined up ... but today is my 12th, DYK? (So: only fun work, a song of thanks, and expand
a great woman.) I
decorated, also for a birthday of that clan. Songs invite to more music, places, food and flowers. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 19:59, 2 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Interesting articles, Gerda. Many thanks for sharing.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:10, 2 August 2021 (UTC)reply
moar
YT - composer/speaker pictured in August songs --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:40, 4 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you! -
Today: 2 interesting DYK (I think), sadly 2 who died (on top of 2 from Poland yesterday), and a concert in which
Daniel Barenboim just played piano, - and afterwards he and the orchestra received last year's prize (pictured). --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:07, 7 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Today:
3 DYK, including that the author dedicated a summer story to a license plate number ;) -
Five rows of images added, sunflowers and butterflies continued, four rows of 15 August alone, - a rich Monteverdi day, - enjoy! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 20:20, 18 August 2021 (UTC)reply
... as what I got restricted for. That was over in 2015, but some
still don't let go of a conspiracy theory. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:01, 28 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm happy to help out, and can do so again if you have other similar requests. I do a lot of translation (English to French and French to English) in my spare time.
Xuxl (
talk) 12:02, 5 August 2021 (UTC)reply
That's very good of you. Thankyou very much.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:15, 5 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Hello, just wanted to touch base with you regarding Mo Farah's lead. I noticed you accepted the inclusion of his birthplace prior to the nationality in the first sentence of the lead by another user, and was wondering what your thoughts were regarding this. I appreciate your participation on the talk page and just wanted to know your perspective.
Apoorva Iyer (
talk) 12:58, 6 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi
Apoorva Iyer. Thanks for your note. I think that addition by
User:Emily19911991here was acceptable. I have just tweaked it in line with the Categories already listed for Farah. But I have no strong view - his place of birth is very clearly describe and linked at the star of the third paragraph of the lead. So it may be somewhat superfluous.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:04, 6 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Hey
Apoorva Iyer. I'm very sorry to see you have retired. I can only imagine it's because of the aggressive attitude of certain other editors. I do hope you might reconsider.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:21, 7 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah yes, Ravel! Heavenly. King of the
Kazoo!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:29, 6 August 2021 (UTC) I lasted 2 minutes 30...reply
Gosh. How lovely. I'm very impressed that you made it to 150 seconds. Strangely, it says that Comments are turned off. Why on earth would anyone do that? Sheeeeeeesh.
DBaK (
talk) 20:16, 6 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Just discovered this yesterday.
[36]. While I always liked his 80s kitsch stuff, may have to rethink my long held Rod in the 70s was evil stance. Its as good as the stones. Those drums/high hats!
Ceoil (
talk) 12:40, 7 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Also, do you speak multiple languages?
Hælþ (
talk) 10:43, 10 August 2021 (UTC)Hælþreply
It's much easier than
over 4 million? Most of my 181,049 are probably spelling mistakes corrections. I can read some other languages (very poorly) but can't really speak them very well.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:49, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Come to think of it, I should do more with speeling misteaks. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 16:37, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I recently achieved my 600th deleted edit. What a wretched waste of time those mistakes must have been! The other 99.3% of lifebar I'll never regenerate was worth it, though, because 00.7% looks like 007 to drunk women in dark bars. Or, as the cool kids say, knackered birds in gloomy pubs. Or, and let's be honest here, to a hosed hoser hosily stroking his "withered and useless" ego in front of a couple of strange men on the Internet, before hosing himself off at home. In any case, cheers to one of you for being slightly over twice my size where it counts, and to the other for abstaining from this depraved lifestyle for so long!
InedibleHulk (
talk) 04:50, 14 August 2021 (UTC)reply
When I said YouTube was nasty and left its poodles in charge, I was only half-kidding. I'll check out the clearly-titled links later, on the app, as God intended. "
In The Meantime", I have no doubt those are all very clever allusions, and I shall ponder them deeply at the appropriate juncture, but for now, I'll give serious thought to this mass self-reversion scheme. If I pretend to be sorry for "fixing" just under 4,000 things, I can strut around wearing nothing but a Grandmaster badge. That'll show 'em I mean business!
InedibleHulk (
talk) 05:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)reply
To whom is your slang jibe directed? Or are you're suggesting this is something practised by most Afghan men, who thus deserve all they get from the Taliban?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:36, 15 August 2021 (UTC)reply
The Fall
Some of us actually remember
this. –
Sca (
talk) 12:38, 15 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you for promoting my footnote to an independent article for
Tregrug Castle – I'm honoured
Thank you for doing me the honour of promoting my footnote to a full article. Especially spiffy is that the new article replaces the former-redirect, giving
Tregrug / Llangibi Castle its own, separate article. Why didn't I think of that?
(Yeah, it's an "anonymous edit", I find it keeps down the noise from editors hacked-off by my redacting BC / AD to BCE / CE, when I think I might get away with it.)
No worries. Thanks for your efforts.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:35, 17 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I've started tidying it up. Sorry, but it was a bit of a mess.
Ghmyrtle (
talk) 07:43, 17 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Have stuck some sources on the Talkpage. As an aside, I'm not at all sure that any of them agree with the Time Team conclusion that the building was primarily a pleasance. Another interesting point for me is the continuing dominance of the
Williams family. When I lived about a mile from the castle in the 80s, Mrs Adams-Williams still owned a very great deal of Llangybi and the surrounding estate, as her forbears had done 400 years before.
KJP1 (
talk) 08:56, 17 August 2021 (UTC)reply
You'll be glad to know the Dynastic Duo have issued a statement saying they have been left
speechless over the situation in Afnamistan. –
Sca (
talk) 12:32, 18 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah yes. They also "... released a joint statement through their Archewell Foundation about the situation in Afghanistan, the earthquake and tropical storm in Haiti, and the continued COVID-19 pandemic." I guess they get all their best ideas from ITN on WP main page.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Seems they don't care about the situation in Zambia, though. How crass.
Sca (
talk) 12:44, 18 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks for noticing Fleischmann, overdue. 3 DYK today, some record I believe, including the novel dedicated to a license plate, - found that better than the erotic scene of three (1931). --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 12:57, 18 August 2021 (UTC)reply
On 18 August 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Una Stubbs, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the
candidates page. —
Amakuru (
talk) 16:11, 18 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Can the
leopard change his spots? –
Sca (
talk) 22:08, 19 August 2021 (UTC)reply
"The Taliban so far have offered no specifics on how they will lead, other than to say they will be guided by Shariah, or Islamic, law. ... Beyond the difficulties of bringing food into the landlocked nation dependent on imports, she said that over 40% of the country’s crop has been lost to drought." Most of the country's money is, apparently, tied up in the US.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:16, 19 August 2021 (UTC)reply
All Souls
An editor has accused me of hounding them, but their edits exert a grim fascination as they seem to misunderstand quite a lot and the encyclopedia needs defending from some of their well-intentioned editing!
PamD 16:10, 23 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah, not good. That's a shame. Editors do sometimes make the same mistakes on multiple articles. And other editors sometimes make an effort to "check and correct" these. But that's hardly
hounding. Maybe they're a
noob?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:26, 23 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Alas: "Video unavailable: This video contains content from Lasso Group, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds".
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:31, 25 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Sorry. It was
"The Commitments" with, alas, inexpungeable French subs. –
Sca (
talk) 12:46, 26 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Our vast (5,600 words) article says the film has "gained cult status." Perhaps you could join up, bringing to the occult table your vast compendium of
obscure knowledge. –
Sca (
talk) 14:13, 26 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Have you seen it? It's a great hilarious flick. –
Sca (
talk) 22:16, 26 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Jimbo speaks...
... to
Al. –
Sca (
talk) 12:33, 27 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah bless. "Transparency in online spaces will empower internet users to have open, civil debates where we can embrace our differences and be clear about our own personal biases. This creates more productive conversations and will build communities instead of promoting conflict." I've never seen any conflict at Wikipedia. And if I ever do, I will be sure to
stamp down on it like a ton of bricks!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I hereby declare that I have a conflict with you.FBDB --
Tryptofish (
talk) 22:17, 27 August 2021 (UTC)reply
When you hover over the link on wikipedia, or you're on the mobile version, the first picture in the article will pop up. That's why i put the lazrus bird. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Dontuseurrealname (
talk •
contribs) 15:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
My questions at
Ornithophobia (on 19 August) were "why a larus? not even mentioned in the article?". Would you like to answer my questions? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:48, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you, Liza! No article yet for
Berry Bibbs. "Everyone But Me" (Beulah Facyson) / "Enough For Everybody" (Beulah Facyson). A
Jimmy McCracklin production.
Kent:
K 496:
[37] Rockin. (Beulah Facyson was Jimmy McCracklin's wife, it seems). What IS that second guitar??
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:22, 4 September 2021 (UTC)reply
The Germany-related DYK I am remembering, ist es nicht. lol
Martinevans123 (
talk) 17:17, 9 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Which one? -
Rich Main page today: the first TFA by a promising author, the pictured DYK by my friend LouisAlain who is discouraged by an AN discussion, and one of the Recent deaths. Enjoy! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 18:02, 9 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Gosh yes, an embarrassment of German riches. And yes, Louis must be punished for his continued reckless misdemeanours. Am surprised he's not been indefinitely blocked for wilful
unsourcing. How about we chain him in a dungeon and allow him to dictate his articles
by semaphore on alternate Thursdays? Sounds fair to me.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:24, 9 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Blame the German articles which often hide their sources well ;) - Pic of today's menu later, perhaps, first there's
an article that would be best on Sunday, but is not ready, by LouisAlain of course. Sauces need to be added. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 18:33, 9 September 2021 (UTC)reply
... and what torture do you think TFA writer HAL333 deserves for this? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 18:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Who cares? We go by number of FAs, and good has only 1, and bad has 58, so he must be not so bad after all. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:18, 9 September 2021 (UTC)reply
... but at least said article has now 12 sauces! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:21, 9 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Also, some
Septober songs: "Take away everything that we own We can even live without a home Have all the money if that is your goal But you'll never touch our
soul."
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:50, 9 September 2021 (UTC)reply
This one is very nice!
today:
the day of bold red and black, for Dante who died 700 years ago, and Peter Fleischmann who died recently, leaving us films full of vision. Dante: just heard
Inferno, imagined by a woman, the main character both speaking and singing with an inner 4-part voice! - Tickets bought for three operas, none of them ever heard yet, also at
Oper Frankfurt. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 18:55, 14 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Gerda, you'll be erstaunt to know that yesterday I scored some genuine
Paulaner Oktoberfest beer right here in Bozo, I-duh-ho. Sehr schmeckhaft, und 6% dazu. –
Sca (
talk) 17:38, 19 September 2021 (UTC)reply
I guess Paulaner had to sell it somewhere, as there's no Oktoberfest in Munich this year due to
Death Invader. –
Sca (
talk) 22:22, 19 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Today:
a woman in red (back to the beginning of the thread), two who died under "in memoriam" and LouisAlain missed - my first editnotice read: "Every editor is a human being" which is quoted from a comment by Geometry guy in a 2012 discussion on
WP:AN. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 14:53, 27 September 2021 (UTC)reply
There's this loooong thread on AN I stopped reading. I didn't make the world kinder, but improved one article (I said: Help wanted). The edit summary for the block was that he lied. It may have been a misunderstanding of question and/or answer. And should an admin block who was offended? After the discussion was for a topic ban? - I don't think LouisAlain is in any mood to want to work in such company. Perhaps talk to him? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 15:50, 27 September 2021 (UTC)reply
That sounds like a bad block and very unfair.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:52, 27 September 2021 (UTC)reply
There's a post-block "discussion", above "Help wanted" - wrong in time sort of, at least I didn't know of the block when I posted, only afterwards when I ran my watchlist. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 15:57, 27 September 2021 (UTC)reply
I wish Louis Allain all the best, and success in his unblock request, if he chooses to make one. As you will probably have seen, I tried to ask a few questions about the block at AN, and was accused by Fram of being a troll: "I probably should simply ignore the above trolling by Martinevans123 (or how else should one call such utterly ridiculous requirements from someone who apparently hasn't bothered researching the facts of the case for themselves, but insinuates that if not all 6000+ articles are checked and demonstrably machine-translated, somehow this would influence the block for some reason)." And by Berig. Levivich kindly confirmed he'd checked three, but clarified that yes, he thinks all 6000+ should be deleted "except any that have been substantially edited by other editors." The thread was closed by Ymblanter.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:23, 28 September 2021 (UTC)reply
I was invited today to contribute "forward" but said it stills hurts too much. I didn't watch, trying to nominate 3 DYK. Managed 2, too late for the other. Feel sorry for the time you spent. 4 users died this year, - do we really have to drive more away? I don't think LouisAlain is interested in this company. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:53, 28 September 2021 (UTC)reply
I had assumed he had been blocked for using using machine translation (Levivich summarised how there was consensus that prohibits a non-speaker from using machine translation to translate articles). Or perhaps for insulting other editors by comparing them to dead Nazis. But no, it seems he was
blocked for lying. Or at least "lying by omission". He was asked if he'd ever used GoogleTranslate and he said he never had. In fact, he had been using DeepL instead (and this is very easy to prove, apparently). He admitted that he had used DeepL. But this was still "lying by omission" to the Goggle question. So he was indef blocked.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:08, 28 September 2021 (UTC)reply
We better be careful if lying by omission is a reason to be blocked, and questioning that is trolling, and otherwise respected admins endorse the block. I said in 2012 I never want to be one.
WP:Great Dismal Swamp. You made my day by trying. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:18, 28 September 2021 (UTC)reply
I'll go to bed now and hope for sweet dreams of freedom of speech. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:29, 28 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Shucks. He must have changed his name when he joined
Roxy. Sounds much cooler than
Brian.... (but not as cool as
Zebulon, of course).
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC)reply
It's great if you have a tired head,
Once again the pigs rest in front of the fireplace.
Everything will be good if you are satisfied with the day,
And you can close the table tired of work.
When a warm cozy flame makes the evening even more beautiful,
Then the day, the tiring day is far from still barely remembering,
And your thought travels far from here, takes you to the blue country of your desires,
Hello there Martin, I am
Gonebyreddust, I have read that you have reversed Miss India’s edit, actually I am going to provide a new content edit about her wedding today via
The Telegraph, but as soon as I finished edit, the page has already been reversed by you, so it made an edit conflict, should I moved it again after I have finished edit her Personal Life Columns? Thanks.
Hi Gonebyreddust. The last edit I made to that article was on 20 September 2018. But I have started a thread at
Talk:India Flint Wood to discuss sourcing issues. It's probably best if you contribute there. Many thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:24, 10 September 2021 (UTC)reply
I really must be getting old, as I made a talk comment without realizing I'd already made essentially the same comment about a month ago. The recent news story had reminded me of what had bothered me, and I didn't remember I'd actually already asked about it. You found the phrase that was worrying me, and I shortened my comments on the talk page. Personally I think Andrew should have been honourable and confessed to contact, rather than lawyering up -- Roberts actually runs a charity about this stuff and she expected him to be a helpful witness, initially, which he should have been. Anyway, it really bothered me the illogic of that Times journalist saying in effect "Joe says he can't hear the TV because of that TNT explosion during the war, but we checked with experts and TNT is very loud and easy to hear." In that case summarizing the journalist as saying "experts disbelieve this explanation" would be ambiguous because the 'this explanation' that they disbelieve would be that everything was quiet including the TNT, but the "this explanation" that Joe gives they might have believed.
Maybe it doesn't matter much....Wikipedia is good about representing what people say and when it is stupid, it is seen as prima facie stupid. There is no need to comment on it. One can hope that there is an elite who realizes Andrew screwed up by not cooperating with Virginia Roberts and the journalist screwed up in his refutation of the sweating defense.
But I'd rather that someone who still has non-paywall access to the Times article can find some way of rewording that sentence not to be ambiguous.
Createangelos (
talk) 12:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)reply
I notice the 'verification needed' tag now...also your joke and link to sweatshop took me a half-hour to realize, I thought, hmm weird thing to say, must not be a native English speaker, then started laughing.
Createangelos (
talk) 15:02, 11 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Well, my Welsh is
not that good. But sincere apologies for the habitual wiki
pun surge.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)reply
I was wondering if you could help me with finding a precise date of birth for one Amy Stuart, born in Sunderland in 1893? She later changed her name (unofficially) to Mamie c. 1910-12 during her dance troupe performing days. I know she was born in the final quarter of 1893, but I cannot find her precise date of birth. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, --
Kieronoldham (
talk) 11:54, 16 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi Kieron. I guess this is her at
FreeBMD. I will try and ask some people who have access to genealogy sites.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:01, 16 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Yep. That's her, Martin. She was killed in November or December 1919. Thanks for your help. Regards, --
Kieronoldham (
talk) 12:07, 16 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Sure. Various archive newspapers state she was either 25 or 26 when she died. Most say 26; some 25 Precise date of birth may help pinpoint her age when she died. Thanks again. Best regards, --
Kieronoldham (
talk) 12:19, 16 September 2021 (UTC)reply
The birth date I have found - from unreliable sources, unfortunately (see my talk page) - is 24 November 1893. So, they would not have known her exact age at death, even at the time.
Ghmyrtle (
talk) 17:20, 16 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Her date of birth has been discovered only recently, or at least after December 1919? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:40, 16 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Presumably her family knew, but it seems that she was 25 when she disappeared but may have died after her 26th birthday. There may have been some confusion in the press - I haven't looked at the story in detail.
Ghmyrtle (
talk) 19:39, 16 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Could I ask for assistance with another case, Martin? Is there any chance you or one of your contacts can find the full name of Gacy victim Michael M. Marino (Feb. 8, 1962 - Oct. 24, 1976?) He was identified in 1980 so some death records may log his date of death as 1980 instead of '76? I cannot find his middle name anywhere. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, --
Kieronoldham (
talk) 13:07, 11 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Hi Kieron. Hope you are well. I'm not sure anyone I know can help with American BMDs, but I will ask.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:38, 11 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks,
Martinevans123. All's well at the moment. Hope you're fine too. Appreciate your help here. Several websites I cannot access because, although they proclaim "our European visitors are important to us," we cannot access them.--
Kieronoldham (
talk) 14:38, 11 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Am very well, thanks. Oh, I see. Feel free to
paste them here. Or else just e-mail me (together with your $20 PayPal payment, lol).
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:44, 11 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Any updates with this, Martin? Thanks. :)--
Kieronoldham (
talk) 15:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Have you got those website addresses? I guess you have no idea where or when Marino was born?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:42, 14 February 2022 (UTC)reply
He was born February 8, 1962 and reported missing in October of 1976. Cook County medical examiners identified his body in March 1980.
Several sites either request a subscription fee or are off-limits to European visitors. This is
Marino's entry on ancestry.com; it is the
closest match I can find.--
Kieronoldham (
talk) 16:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Indeed I am, Martin. So many
barriers I gave up trying to search last year. Was hoping yourself or an individual you know may be able to access one of these sites to find his middle name? Thanks in advance.--
Kieronoldham (
talk) 16:33, 14 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Howdy, Martin - in my capacity as a member of
WP:VRT, I have received email notification from a family member confirming Mamie's birthdate as 24 November 1893. They also confirmed that she had a brother, James Smith Stuart born in 1897 – as well as her older sister, Edith Mary. I will get an OTRS ticket # assigned. Hope that helps.
Atsme💬📧 18:35, 16 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks Atsme, but we've done Mamie already! Kieron's now after a victim of the lovely
John Wayne Gacy, called Michael
M. Marino.....
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:47, 16 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Any updates here, Martin? Hope you don't mind me asking again. :)--
Kieronoldham (
talk) 00:09, 27 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks for uploading File:Clevor Trever.ogg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a
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Thanks for keeping on eye on the work. It'll probably need a number of eyes as it goes along, and if I can make sure that as many sources as possible are now verifiable online, that will help others too. I'll keep cleaning as I go along, though the next couple of days, I'll just have to let things hang. It'll be a good period anyway to let folk weigh in with any concerns regarding citations and the like.
Thanks for the heads up on Davies! I've added him to the sources, so he'll be available to use to create verifiable links.
With respect to Joyce failing chemistry in Dublin. Please note that I didn't add the line; it was there before I came to the page. (Please see the
Septembrr 2021 version edited by you with the Ellmann citation). I just tried to find the nearest passage in the citation that aligned with the text. Please feel free to modify the text and citation anyway you see fit. Alternatively, I'll attempt to see what other sources say, and add as follows. I may reword in line with Ellmann, but again, feel free to reword in line with the text as you see ft. One of my major goals righ now is less about content and just ensuring verifiable text-source integrity! So please make whatever changes you think are right!
And again, just know I jumped on your talk page mainly to say I appreciate you are keeping an eye on ensuring the text-source integrity too, as I start trying to dig out verifiable texts. I appreciate it!
Wtfiv (
talk) 02:45, 25 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, of course. It wasn't you who added that. It's been there a while. The "real" reason Joyce gave up his studies, according to Davies, as mentioned by Ellman, was that he was asked to pay the fees upfront. Davies also says he spent more time in other anatomical investigations - visiting prostitutes. Thanks for your note.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:12, 25 September 2021 (UTC)reply
On 26 September 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article John Challis, which you updated and nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the
candidates page.
PFHLai (
talk) 23:08, 26 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Hello. You have recently contributed to this article or its talk page. Please see
this discussion on the talk page. You are welcome to take part if you are interested. Thanks.
No Great Shaker (
talk) 13:05, 2 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah yes, "tank-topped bum boys" and Muslim women who look like letter boxes. He hasn't even got
someone else to make him look slightly less stupid, any more. But thanks for the invite.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:13, 2 October 2021 (UTC)reply
LOL. Brilliant, Martin. Thanks and all the best.
No Great Shaker (
talk) 13:18, 2 October 2021 (UTC)reply
"We Conservatives will defend our history and cultural inheritance not because we are proud of everything, but because trying to edit it now is as dishonest as a celebrity trying furtively to change his entry in Wikipedia, and it’s a betrayal of our children’s education." --
Hereward the Woke, 6 October 2021. lol
I uploaded new pics (click on songs), including "our" concert (after exactly two years without) and a cow sunset --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 20:00, 5 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I miss the user who is pictured on
father. - Has it happened to you that someone said a red link would absolutely be better than the article you wrote? I'd take four-letter words better than that. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 11:07, 7 October 2021 (UTC)reply
That sounds particularly mean and vindictive. Unless you were some kind of newbie troll vandal, perhaps. But all kinds of editors get described as "trolling" these days, it seems.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:15, 7 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Still the same AN thread which you said you'd unwatch. Please don't. Opera now, watch
Amadigi please, - no more dangers from me for some hours. Tomorrow: DYK #1700, pictured! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 12:33, 7 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Holy Father: "If you keep looking at AN/I treads son, you'll go blind, so ya will."
Young Wikipedian: "It's alright Father. I'll just risk the one eye." --
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:10, 7 October 2021 (UTC)reply
As promised: today
#1700, and I uploaded more images, mostly blue and green, for hope. I agree about
WP:Great Dismal Swamp but we can't remain silent. Fr.B. aka
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 10:58, 8 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Well done!! And thanks to LouisAlain and Grimes2, it seems.
Give them their thanks, please. - You'd make a good member of the
cabal of the outcast ;) - with others being the one who coined the swamp redirect (#2, banned), and the one who wrote the swamp article (#1, blocked, article made GA while blocked, which was my first ever). Would you join, or should I make you an honorary member such as LouisAlain and RexxS? We seem to loose the honorary ones even faster than the others ... - but
I sing hope. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 12:21, 8 October 2021 (UTC)reply
the latest talk about "unwerte Artikel" (worse than a red link) really troubles me. Are we going to have to pass exams to deliver an article? The good old days, when
Jerome Kohl, a Stockhausen expert, helped me in a friendly and factual way with my second article, telling me that the RS quoted was wrong. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 16:13, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Reiss was sent to draft with a long edit summary about how unworthy - today, I translated from German myself, and realised how difficult it is, and how much time it takes -
our next conductor, we sang happy birthday to him
on concert day, - 30, imagine! He played the piano in one of the Rossini rehearsals, softly and exquisite, - no ref for that ;)--
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 16:30, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
"He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour, not calleth ones neighbour a troll, nor persisteth with trouble within the dark booths of AN/I."
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:40, 11 October 2021 (UTC)reply
love it - there's a little movement in the swamp, - were you pinged or do "trolls" not get pinged? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 15:57, 11 October 2021 (UTC)reply
[41]? ... or not. He's still upset that he was indef blocked for "lying by omission". Except that the blocking admin seems to agree he was blocked for far more. Perhaps that's all inconsequential administrative detail? Does he have access to his own Talk page or not? Not since 26 September? Again, it's not very clear.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:33, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
File:Five-leaved ivy, Ehrenbach.jpg is particularly vibrant, by the way.reply
I think one thing is clear, that it's over. And I profit, getting "my" articles translated into French. Au revoir LouisAlain, bienvenue endless IP numbers, - I'd prefer the other way round. Yes, vibrant where I live. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:42, 12 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Almost the opposite of stubs, and often working on command (
not without protest), informing us about the authors of sources and sufferers under the Nazis, - well, today I remember the banning of
Br'er Rabbit begun nine years ago OTD, and I had to celebrate a birthday in bright sunshine. Today, that same birthday, but I go sing in choir for a funeral, of a woman who was supposed to sing last Sunday but suddenly died. Two recent deaths on the Main page and one waiting. It's part of life. I
keep singing in defiance of the old dragon, death and fear. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 08:07, 13 October 2021 (UTC)reply
today: see yourself, read about a hymn praying to not be on earth in vain, about a comics artist whose characters have character (another collaboration of the "perennial gang", broken by one of us banned), and in memory of the last prima donna assoluta,
Edita Gruberová. I had to go to two grave sites last week, one who died now, one who died 10 years ago, so standing upright and in black seems appropriate. More colours - but subdued - can be had on hikes, - updated. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 14:05, 20 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I fear that deleting them will only encourage other editors to put them back. I assume that there was a decision somewhere to add descriptions of the bleeding obvious. ;O) Thanks for taking the trouble to edit the article, it's been quiet for a few years.
Keith-264 (
talk) 11:35, 12 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Cheers. My interest arises from
File:Nash-Oppy Wood.jpg. Yeah, I guess the best we might hope for is a marginal improvement on the Wikidata ones.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:41, 12 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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Thanks so much for the warning-that-isn't-a-warning. Seems I've been singled out for special attention. But I'm not sure why. From your comment at
Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Katie Pricehere: "The article is a huge BLP and NOT violation as it is.", it's pretty clear which side of the fence you'll come down on? I suggested at
Talk:Katie Price,
here, 8 days ago, that "... we return to the last "stable" consensus version, of three days ago, and then discuss possible edits one topic at a time." But my suggestion was ignored.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:21, 12 October 2021 (UTC)reply
You think it's just "idle gossip" that ""In September 2021, Price was taken to hospital after a car crash near Partridge Green, which is located close to her home in Horsham" and that "Later that month, Price pleaded guilty to driving drunk without insurance and while disqualified"? You think that somehow these facts are "BLP violations"?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:29, 12 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I quite agree. Like the two sentences above, for example.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 07:54, 13 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Oh, but hang on. Not completely singled out... I see that
Escape Orbit also gets one. And of course, there's the lengthy "welcome" you've added at
User talk:Cameron Dev, which also did not go down too well. Does User:EnPassant get a nice template too? Not so much.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 13:06, 13 October 2021 (UTC)reply
On 16 October 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Paddy Moloney, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the
candidates page.
PFHLai (
talk) 06:08, 16 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Tea for Two
Good to hear from you. Please read talk page on "Tea for Two". Thanks!
Tillywilly17 (
talk) 10:35, 17 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, I did thanks. Good work! Well spotted.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:37, 17 October 2021 (UTC) p.s. but beware of unintentional copyright violation (even on Talk pages). Thanks.reply
Copyvio
Hello there. I hate to 'template a regular', but do please take care not to copy/paste sentences that might breach our strict policies on copyright.
This recent edit you made to the
Chris Packham article appears to have directly lifted two sentences from
this BBC News source. I'm sure you appreciate how important it is that we always strive to add even the briefest of content in our own words. Many thanks,
Nick Moyes (
talk) 22:11, 17 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Many thanks for pointing that out, Nick. And thanks for fixing it. I have added "including foxes and badgers" directly from the BBC source, as I think that explains it further and is more graphic. I trust that's not a breach of copyright.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:18, 17 October 2021 (UTC)reply
S.L.U.G. Queen Pageant 2012 Queen Sadie Slimy Stitches and Queen Carmen Slugana
Well, I'm disappointed. No-one has said that
Elizabeth II is dead yet. It would undoubtedly have happened with Prince Philip by now.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 10:53, 22 October 2021 (UTC)reply
New Wikipedia Guideline Proposed which you might be interested in
Hello. I am letting editors know who participated in the recent discussions that decided whether the
Killing of David Amess should be called "killing, murder, or assassination", about a new Wikipedia essay being proposed for a new guideline. The essay,
Wikipedia:Assassination, explains how the common definition of "assassination" does not determine an article's title. Only reliable sources can determine whether it is murder/killing or assassination. Since you participated in those recent discussions, I wanted to drop a message to you about this new proposal. If you want to leave your opinion about it, you can do so
in this discussion. Have a good day and keep up the good editing!
Elijahandskip (
talk) 03:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks for telling me. "Assassination" is not much used these days in British English to describe the killing of British politicians.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:17, 25 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Murdered by a lone crank with a grudge is probably more accurate, but assassination has stuck.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 13:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes.
Assassination of Spencer Perceval tells us that "He petitioned the Prince Regent before resuming his efforts with the Privy Council, the Home Office and the Treasury, only to receive the same polite refusals as before. He then sent a copy of his petition to every member of Parliament, again to no avail." But even
John Bellingham starts ".. was an English
merchant and perpetrator of the 1812 murder of
Spencer Perceval, the only British prime minister to be assassinated."Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:03, 25 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah jeez, clowns, don't get me started. Folks these days are just
paranoid.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:33, 26 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Isn't his hit notable
Tony Steward's cover version has been made before David Parton's, and his charted. Your obsession with my description of who Tony is, made you overlook those wikiworthy facts. So this action
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1046989225 is wrong motivated and therefore abusive behaviour.
109.37.157.104 (
talk) 23:23, 25 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Tony Steward is not notable on en.wiki, so I'm not sure that his cover version of "
Isn't She Lovely" is necessarily notable. I'm also not sure that my one revert of your unexplained addition constitutes an "obsession". Which "wikiworthy facts" have I overlooked? The source you gave was
this one, but I don't see any mention of Steward's single, or even
David Parton's single, there. Perhaps Parton's single reaching No. 29 in the Dutch
Nationale Hitparade could be added, if a suitable source could be found. But I don't think my initial revert was "wrong motivated and therefore abusive behaviour." Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:00, 26 October 2021 (UTC) p.s. I've also reverted your addition to
Jimmy McCullochhere as it's unsourced.reply
Hello: not sure where to put this. We were discussing verifiable sources for the details of Edith Sitwell's death. I notice there are shedloads of biographies wsome of which give the information. All we need to do is to find someone who has read them all, who could surely give us chapter and verse. Problem is, how would we find such an expert? All the best
Foiled circuitous wanderer (
talk) 15:12, 28 October 2021 (UTC)reply
In November, I can offer some reading, - three feast days in a row, reformation followed by All Saints' and All Souls. On All Saints, we
sang in choir in a mass - a 2021 first - and rehearsed (with the other group) for the next such thing next Sunday. All Souls is
the birthday of the subject of my first article who will play a major concert on 14 November. Today we "celebrate" the first DYK for which LouisAlain laid the base in a German sandbox, - needlessly complicated but working. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:56, 3 November 2021 (UTC)reply
As you may have seen, that was also the last. - I thought of you seeing
this angel! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:34, 10 November 2021 (UTC)reply
perhaps - what do we do about
Wildes Holz? - The other day, I heard an opera conducted by
Titus Engel. Had missed creation of that article. Do you think improving it is permitted? We have a translation of Börsenblatt, but taking it would be proxy, no? So start it from scratch, probably only to arrive at a similar thing? Kafka wherever I look. But Verdi was great! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:54, 10 November 2021 (UTC)reply
I guess "we" have to search for sources. But you're probably better placed than most. Glad you enjoyed the Verdi... oooh
"Nice!"Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:13, 10 November 2021 (UTC)reply
update on St. Martin's Day --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:31, 11 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Don't call him a saint. It will go to his head. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 22:39, 11 November 2021 (UTC)reply
I found an article to match: a soprano nèe Martin who studied with some Martini, -
pictured on the Main page. How do you like his pinkish horse? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 22:46, 11 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks so much, Gerda. Yes, that's a great shame at the age of only 50. Tragic. Vier letzte Lieder is probably my favourite Strauss ever. That "Frühling" is just incredible (well they all are, of course).
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, a great loss. I would not have known about her without you-know-who. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 19:11, 14 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Then I have to thank him as well. And probably hundreds of others.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:29, 14 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes.
Today we received the annual arbcom message, which made me think. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 16:21, 23 November 2021 (UTC)reply
How about you nominate
Doug, putatively the world's
biggest potato, for an RD? At 7.8 kg., Doug, recently exhumed in NZ, looks to depose a 2011 Guinness-record spud from Britain that weighed just under 5 kg. He has a name, so he must meet our sacred ITN paremeters. (Since Doug currently resides in a freezer, he has indeed peeled off his mortal coil).. –
Sca (
talk) 18:26, 4 November 2021 (UTC)reply
I don't get how those Kiwis can even bring themselves to eat "...a couple of sacks of regular potatoes, or one small dog." And anyway, to me it looks a lot like
the Baby Jesus.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:07, 4 November 2021 (UTC) p.s. I do enjoy he occasional kiwi, but I always have to leave the feathers...reply
Full disclosure: This user is a resident of I-duh-ho, in which state the license-plate motto is
FAMOUS POTATOES –
Sca (
talk) 22:26, 4 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks. Just so you'll know, Doug is rapidly becoming an international
cause célèbre, if only posthumorously. Time to nominate! –
Sca (
talk) 12:27, 5 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Well, I think we might need an article like
Doug (giant potato) first, before we can nominate at IT Recent Deaths.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 12:35, 5 November 2021 (UTC)reply
That would be work – and on a Friday, too. –
Sca (
talk) 12:39, 5 November 2021 (UTC)reply
I don't think it's going to be a good month for Boris, if you know what I mean. Not sure how much longer the rotter is going to last at No. 10.
Softlavender (
talk) 00:37, 5 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Whatever are you saying?! If Boris needs to take a private jet to fly back to London from COP26 to have dinner with Daily Telegraph columnist
Charles Moore at the
Garrick Club, then he's perfectly entitled to do so! He probably had a very polite non-belching beef steak.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:27, 5 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Remember, Remember, we can throw the whole lot of them into the fire tonight. At least in effigy. Sizzle sizzle.
Softlavender (
talk) 11:41, 5 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah yes. Has
Paul not been given his left peerage yet?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 11:49, 5 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Curious what images "left peerage" brings up on a
Google image search. Especially if you click that "suppressed images" link down at the bottom.
Softlavender (
talk) 11:58, 5 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Lad, who needs the BVI when you've got the
world's most corrupt tax havens right in your own backyard (or back garden, as you lot so irrationally insist upon saying)?
Softlavender (
talk) 22:03, 11 November 2021 (UTC)reply
On 7 November 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Lionel Blair, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the
candidates page.
PFHLai (
talk) 06:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)reply
That does look quite odd. Many thanks for that and thanks for letting me know.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:59, 7 November 2021 (UTC)reply
In case you didn't see it
Thanks for the ping thanks M. Your mention of Miriam prompted me to leave
this in case you didn't see Eileen Atkins hilarious comparison of their memoirs. Have a fun week.
MarnetteD|
Talk 19:20, 7 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Hahaha. Charity work is so important, I feel. "100 pages shorter", lol. I had not seen that one actually! Thanks so much.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:05, 7 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Hopefully someone will have saved an archive version with that real star of the Stylophone still featured... £14.50 (not including batteries) was a lot of money in 1978!
[52]Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:37, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Lol. "Dubreq would like to pass on our very best regards to Rolf and congratulations on his incredible half-century career. Long may he continue to have his kangaroo restrained." That's not a euphemism, is it.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:59, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Flobbadob barnstar
Dear
Martinevans123 Thank you so much for the barnstar! I really appreciate it - have done a lot of very detailed writing for Wikipedia for seven years or so and your kind award is the first proper recognition I've had. You have really made my day 😺
Flobbadob (
talk) 18:44, 16 November 2021 (UTC)reply
You are very welcome. Patient and methodical editing. Well deserved!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:48, 16 November 2021 (UTC)reply
The Fable of the Village Vamp and the Higher Education
Click here for good honest fun! Now turn to Page 27 for what we're really after (or Page 29, as the Internet misremembers it). Something tells me you might Dig That Diction. If not, carry on merrily with Whatever presently commands your undivided attention. Curious lurkers, same deal to you!
InedibleHulk (
talk) 22:54, 18 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, I dug it (and might have dug it even deeper had I been imbibing). I was strongly reminded of
A Clockwork Orange. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 23:51, 18 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Up here, we spell "
Kizarny" with
A Similar Drawl. Not where I live, mind you, but where I've been. Not sure what Llandscape llull you've llinked afore, mein drugel, but their article seems "legit", so something similarly Spotified this way soon surely comes...thanks for reviewing!
InedibleHulk (
talk) 02:26, 20 November 2021 (UTC)reply
"The Doll House", "Eastern Girls" and "It's Not My Name" take the bronze, gold and silver (in no particular order), but nothing on that album totally sucked, just maybe some "sometimes songs"... a solid C.
InedibleHulk (
talk) 03:55, 20 November 2021 (UTC)reply
"From the Tea-rooms of Mars .... to the Hell-holes of Uranus"... much like so many Talk page threads, really.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:58, 20 November 2021 (UTC)reply
News Flash
BBC: Meghan says Harry is loving the California lifestyle
[54] Başlığı değiştirme hocam böyle bir film var kaydadeğer (There is such a movie, don't stop changing the title sir) --
46.106.233.103 (
talk) 17:48, 19 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, that 2020 film does seem to exist. But you added it, for the second time,
here, to the
No Future article. That's a
Disambiguation page, so the entry doesn't really belong there, as there is no article for the film, there seems to be no alternative target article where it is mentioned, and there are no external source(s) provided demonstrating its notability. IMDb is not considered
WP:RS as it is user-generated. If you think that the film, by
Andrew Irvine and
Mark Smoot, and staring
Catherine Keener,
Charlie Heaton and
Rosa Salazar, is notable, by all means go and create an article for it. I'm sorry, I'm not sure what "whilesmear" means. And my
Turkish is not very good. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 21:25, 19 November 2021 (UTC)reply
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MediaWiki message delivery (
talk) 00:13, 23 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi, I thought the para on boiled eggs was trivial stuff and a distraction.
Crystalshrub (
talk) 18:26, 24 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, I can see your thinking there. But I'd say it was a very vivid illustration of what a "big kid" Thomas was for most of his life. I'd be happy to keep it, but maybe a discussion on the Talk page might be best. Meanwhile, how about a few edit summaries? I count 69 edits you've made to that article all without a single edit summary? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:40, 24 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Don't forget to sign all your Talk page posts with four tildes: "~~~~" . Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:57, 25 November 2021 (UTC)reply
You actually have copies of Carmarthen Journal for March 27 and December 11 1908? I am guessing they have adverts for Jim Jones' farm sales. But I'm really not sure this is the level of detail needed for that article. We just need a good visible
WP:RS saying that he wasn't really farming any more, by the time Dylan visited as a child, in the 1920s.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 16:25, 25 November 2021 (UTC)reply
A good guess! They're online. I could replace the newspaper refs with a ref to an online essay that mentions the sales.
Crystalshrub (
talk) 17:17, 26 November 2021 (UTC)reply
That link shows an advert for the sale, on 22 September 1908, of Pentowin Farm. The Joneses sold that before moving to Fern Hill? But that really is too much detail. We just need a source that says that Jim Jones did no farming at Fern Hill.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:46, 26 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks for that footnote about Jim Jones. Looks just right to me.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 18:29, 27 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi, discussion at
this RfC seems to be over. I was wondering if you could maybe close the RfC, or suggest who should close it alternatively? I am just not sure how to proceed. Thank you.
Sansgloire (
talk) 21:00, 25 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks for reminding me. It's generally best if someone not involved in the discussion closes an RfC. And besides, I don't really like
closing stuff, I much prefer
opening! But I agree, after 20 days, discussion seems to have ended. I'd suggest waiting a couple of days and hoping that a passing non-involved editor will close. The result seems to point mostly one way, but it's not landslide.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Alright, let's wait a few more days. Should I make a closure request at
Wikipedia:Closure requests in case nobody shows up? Thanks. :)
Sansgloire (
talk) 22:34, 25 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Absolutely. A very good idea. Cheers.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 22:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)reply
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talk page watcher)
Sansgloire, since there is significant dissent, the RFC should run at least 30 days, as is the norm. If it is closed sooner than that, that will merely create further problems. As it is, I removed the ethnicity from the lead sentence for now, as an outlier construction.
Softlavender (
talk) 00:30, 27 November 2021 (UTC)reply
A good idea. As far as I can see, there are two valid !votes for "in first sentence" and a possible compromise of "somewhere in lead section," so I think you've probably solved the immediate issue.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:56, 27 November 2021 (UTC)reply
DYK that there are at least thirty different books by ghost writers Katie Price?
[56]--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 16:53, 29 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Well we list
42. And Rebecca Farnworth has only owned up to the first 14. £8.40 seems a bargain for a whole night's
chestnut roasting....
Martinevans123 (
talk)
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
This follows on
this reversion by you. I don't disagree with the reversion, but just thought I would mention
this from a source which
WP:RSP rates as no consensus on reliability. There's lots of other stuff out there on this -- nothing I saw from a solid RS, but it clear that there's been chatter about this.
Wtmitchell(talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 15:11, 30 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 20:48, 30 November 2021 (UTC)reply
thegenealogist.co.uk
Please see the warning left on
User talk:Wgc120. That user has an obvious
WP:COI with this commercial company, and has been spamming it for years. If the material is relevant to the article, the references can be replaced with direct references to the "Who Do You Think You Are?" epsisode, as I've done on a number of the affected articles. OhNoitsJamieTalk 14:44, 1 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm not
User:Wgc120. I don't have any COI, thanks. The references to thegenealogist.co.uk generally have far more information than the TV programme itself. Some of your edits just remove all mention of the WDYTYA programme wholesale?
Martinevans123 (
talk) 14:51, 1 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I don't believe that an appearance on WDYTYA? automatically merits a paragraph on every subject that appears; celebrities appear on hundreds of shows, we don't need to note every appearance. In cases where others have reworked the material into biolographical prose, I've replaced the reference with the BBC link, which is sufficient for
WP:V. OhNoitsJamieTalk 15:31, 1 December 2021 (UTC)reply
And I'm not suggesting blanket automatic addition to every bio article. I guess that's just appropriate for the Who Do You Think You Are? (British TV series) article. I think it rather depends on whether new biographical information (usually in terms of ancestry) about that person, is presented in the programme. It may have been already reported elsewhere, but overlooked. I am still a bit concerned that
User:Wgc120, through their COI spamming, has effectively spoiled thegenealogist.co.uk as a supplementary source for any of those articles. Press review articles, about a programme episode, are often forthcoming and at least allow a written alternative to BBC iPlayer. But these can be of variable quality. Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:55, 1 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm tempted to rejoin Disney+ for another half-day (my first half-day was to watch Hamilton and [against my better judgment because I avoid all comic-book movies] Black Panther) to watch Cruella. Saw a 30-second clip of Emma Thompson and Emma Stone, and it was hilarious (not sure how the rest of the film stacks up).
Softlavender (
talk) 04:59, 3 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I guess great minds think alike! I too briefly joined Disney+ just to watch Hamilton and Black Panther. (And I just got Hulu so I can watch Nomadland.) --
Tryptofish (
talk) 18:28, 3 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Apologies, I cut and pasted the wrong date (and contributor) entry reference to indicate when the original change was made. Fixing it now.
All the best,
Samhu (
talk) 04:20, 3 December 2021 (UTC)reply
No worries. Easily done. Thanks for your note.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:07, 3 December 2021 (UTC) p.s. the alternative is hardly surprising, given that's the actual lyric. There are quite a few YouTube examples. And here it is in
a book. But, strictly speaking, it's just a mistake.reply
mmmh baklava - translating Zeitmaße into German wasn't easy, and isn't complete - I didn't expect soup in the sun outside on a 2 December. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 16:52, 3 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I do! -
today, an Italian opera, my second ever, as the TFA written by two dear people, and a park where I went with dear people, as pictured DYK - I thought of Orff, because the Italian opera about a clever man was matched by his German opera about a clever woman,
Die Kluge, sung by
Teresa Żylis-Gara --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 18:07, 14 December 2021 (UTC)reply
today memories of singing Monteverdi, Handel, Rossini - a triple nod to Brian, an unsurpassed model of constant kindness and helpfulness coupled with competence! - sing-along Bach tonight --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 16:52, 17 December 2021 (UTC)reply
first little gift is up on my talk, something to listen --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 23:44, 23 December 2021 (UTC)reply
After today's foofaraw I wish we could add a speech bubble to the Krimpet/peek gif saying "Anyone want to buy a used computer" :-P Have a nice weekend.
MarnetteD|
Talk 19:51, 3 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi MarnetteD and all,
I am writing to let you know that I am doing an auction with
Krustie’s auction house, commencing
today and closing on
December 15th.
Great stuff M. Your post is like an advent calendar (just the right month for it) but we get to open the windows to fun items all at once :-)
MarnetteD|
Talk 22:45, 3 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm stocking up on cryptocurrencies and NFTs. I'm going to be a zillionaire before long.
Softlavender (
talk) 00:10, 4 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm also living 100% in the metaverse, because I trust
Mark Zuckerberg implicitly. I've never been happier in my life.
Softlavender (
talk) 01:33, 4 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Hey, what are you suggesting??!! You could make at least 10 first edits in 2 minutes! A
nice little earner!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 08:46, 5 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Mama Mia! That's quite
tempting. By the way, apropos des bottes, this article is kinda interesting:
Laconic phrase. --
Softlavender (
talk) 01:24, 9 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I mentioned you in
Talk:Gary Glitter, but the ping mechanism doesn't seem to have worked; please see my message justifying my change, and a request for comment. --
The Anome (
talk) 10:09, 7 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Wow, thanks MarnetteD. What a brilliant collection. Very enjoyable.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 09:35, 19 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm glad you enjoyed them M. I made a CD with those and several others to give to friends 11 or 12 years ago. Does anyone even burn a CD anymore? Gosh the tech changes so fast :-)
MarnetteD|
Talk 09:44, 19 December 2021 (UTC)reply
You are so right about that 1979 album. 3 Kings is great to sing along with while driving to see Xmas lights. Did you know that someone downloaded
[58] to the tube of you? Something to enjoy later this week :-)
MarnetteD|
Talk 19:17, 19 December 2021 (UTC)reply
You just took me on a memory trip to the apartment I rented in college where I played (and played and played) that album. Thank you so much!
MarnetteD|
Talk 19:41, 19 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Haha. I used to listen to it (over and over) on one of
these!
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:48, 19 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi Martin, I try to keep this page up to date. A few days ago another editor pointed out that the music section had no cited sources. If you know of a recognised one that lists all his releases (not just "Fish People") or at least all his singles, would you please add it for me. Thanks in advance.
Scrabble1968 (
talk) 15:16, 21 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I'll probably add it for me, haha, but sure.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:18, 21 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Unfortunately not.
WP:RSP says: "Rate Your Music was deprecated in the 2019 RfC. The content on Rate Your Music is user-generated, and is considered generally unreliable.".
Martinevans123 (
talk) 15:16, 24 December 2021 (UTC) Thanks anyway. Merry Christmas to you also!reply
Those endless years slogging away in college German classes have now paid off. Anyway, Santa said this stick was a lonely gift that hadn't been gifted to a single page in the entire global Wikisphere. He didn't have the heart to send it to the
Island of Misfit Toys.
[62] --
Softlavender (
talk) 13:48, 24 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Hello Martinevans123, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this
seasonal occasion. Spread the
WikiLove by wishing another user a
Merry Christmas and a
Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2022. Happy editing, Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 15:31, 24 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks. Am going through a Jaco Pastorius period atm
[63] mind is- really, suitably - bent, but meanwhile on earth and rock and roll land: here is some
Holger Czukay.
Ceoil (
talk) 08:34, 25 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Jeez. Your breath of knowledge never seaces to amaze, noting you were editing Shadows and Light just this April.
Ceoil (
talk) 05:49, 27 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Haha. There's not much music I don't like! Pastorius' premature death, at the age of 35, was a wholly avoidable tragedy. What a senseless loss.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:01, 27 December 2021 (UTC)reply
On 27 December 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Janice Long, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the
candidates page.
PFHLai (
talk) 12:21, 27 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Martinevans123, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable
New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (
talk) 13:57, 31 December 2021 (UTC)reply