TingMing ( talk · contribs) has been making global searching-and-unifying edits all following his own opinion (without proper discussion with other editors) and the Naming Conventions, which as I have pointed out in WP:ANI#Global search and replace and edit warring by User:TingMing the Political NPOV part has been tagged by not one but two POV-disputed tags. I'm positive that he is downright Nationalist himself, although 1) UserCheck only came out with the result possible and 2) he himself is denying it and translating the result of "possible" to be the proof of him not being a sockpuppet. As the reason I feel the need to bring this to your attention, although you may choose not to take any action concerning this issue of which you are already tired. Thanks, Vic 226 19:22, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Let's take the easy way; I'm rather tired of his consistent disruption in Wikipedia. I prefer to see what the ArbCom has to say about this first, since TingMing—assuming he's Nationalist—is the only known active sockpuppet for now. What I'm worried about is the lack of involvement from other people in the Arb. case. Vic 226 02:40, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
If TingMing ( talk · contribs) isn't the User:Nationalist, he sure is a nationalist, and one that seems to call the pre- Lee Teng-hui era home. I mean - wow. I respect the guy's fervor, but man... -- Folic Acid 13:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Weird - This guy showed up yesterday and immediately started making edits to Taiwan-related articles. It doesn't look as bad as Ting/Nationalist yet, but it is a little suspicious. -- Folic Acid 12:04, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Loren, I think we got our edits crossed somewhere and we protected the article at the same time - that's not a problem, but I protected for a bit longer than you. If you wish, you can undo my protection. Cheers, – Riana ऋ 05:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
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An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/TingMing. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/TingMing/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/TingMing/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 14:29, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Apparently there isn't enough involvement in the arbitration case, and the ArbCom might as well get bored and motion to close before anything is solved. I don't know. I know some people like User:Borgarde and User:Yankees76 who had records of activities against Nationalist and his socks, but they are pretty much detached from it by now. Since TingMing can be either a sockpuppet or not as the RFCU says, I don't feel that asking for their participation would help since their knowledge about TingMing may be very limited. Any ideas? Vic 226 說 06:11, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Stop trying to summon support from the most random people that I have never even dealt with. This is simply absurd. I have done nothing wrong and am pushing the mere current de facto status that the Republic of China is the government of Taiwan Province. What is so wrong about that? I dont give beans if it offends any TIer. They have to live with life. TingMing 00:40, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Loren36. I strongly agree with your explaination with regards of the article. No offence TingMing, but this article strongly needs other improvements other than just changing its location "on a political note". For a long time, I have seen nothing but no vaild improvements on the entire basis of the article. There are indeed, many areas in which others can do as a community. As you can see, I have tried to do some cleaning up especially on grammartical errors and etc. Now this is the kind of editing that I wish to see. Practically everybody knows that Taipei 101 is located in Taiwan, so in this sense, it doesn't have to be changed or re-done again and again. That's not the way it is. Believe me, you can possibly help in other aspects and areas of the article. There's more to be done in the areas of the article, it is in fact a great article for users who are in the areas, of; Architectural Studies and wish to use it for, rather than just adjusting its location alone. For me, my objection lies in what you did.
Someformofhuman 03:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for your effort to do that. I find it has been going on for ages and I know that is not the Wikipedia Way of editing. I find it slanderous to the public.
Also, I have been finding the Wiki code for page locking for a long time, ever since the argument has started. I guess the admins only have the ability to that I suppose? Anyway, I wanted to also do a Report Article to the admins about this dispute. Since it has been done by you, then I think its not needed. Somehow, I wish to help out adminstrative work someday in Wikipedia, or at least have a rank.
Try to write me back if you can on my Talk Page. I can see you're a pretty busy person, and that's fine.
Thanks.
Someformofhuman 06:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for your feedback! I like your explaination, neat and clear and at the same time humourous. I hope everything gets sorted out ASAP!
Someformofhuman 07:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that. I can appreciate that he has a different (and strongly-held) POV on Taiwan, but it seems that his POV comes across a little too strong in his edits. Let me know if I can help/add anything to the overall discussion about naming conventions. So far, I think you've got it right - keep up the good work. -- Folic Acid 02:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I notice you had some objections over the (*) on Mainlanders on the List of Taiwanese people page. I thought I would change it to a designation of place of birth, but I am getting some resistence. Feel free to expand on your earlier objection. Maowang 04:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks!
Maowang 07:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
You got to the vandalism this time around here before my slow computer could process it. Maybe it is because it is late, but your edit comment when you fixed it here actually made me crack up. Thanks for both your vigilence and humour. Komdori 04:38, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Loren, could you undo TingMing ( talk · contribs)'s (undiscussed) move of Nanking Massacre to Rape of Nanking? I can't seem to do it. Thanks! -- Folic Acid 12:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
About the comment you left on my talk page....You said that I labeled people as pro communist and pro green. You also linked me to a source where I supposedly did that. You should go read that source first. I never called any editor a Communist or pro-green in that source. I was talking about Mingshe which is a TV network if you did not know. I guess you arent familiar with ROC-Taiwan. Stop trying to accuse me of doing what I did not do. That seriously offends me and hurts me. You are not being civil at all by doing that. TingMing 02:31, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
You wrote it as though I had just called Jerry a pan-green. I called FTV a pan-green news channel, NOT jerry. TingMing 03:39, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
The memorial has been officially renamed, so could you please move Chiang Kai-shek Memorial Hall to "National Taiwan Democracy Memorial Hall"? I added a news source on the article if you need to see some evidence of the ceremony. John Smith's 11:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, correct me if I am wrong, but has any progress been made about the POV discussions of Taipei 101 location dispute? I went into the discussion page, and the last comment date was quite sometime back. Has the dispute been solved, or still going on? (If it was still on, then maybe it was in a different discussion page I guess) Since I didn't see any progress, I thought maybe the article can be unlocked?
Let me know ASAP, Thanks!
Stefan Someformofhuman 00:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you, but would you mind taking a look at the article on Lee Huan? I've just written it, and I was hoping to have a bit of a peer review on it. Thanks very much! -- Folic Acid 16:41, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I have to say this: I should have recused from the case from the get go, being an editor originally born in Taiwan. (I didn't because I don't edit those articles, being pretty jaded by the current government located in Taiwan) If you want the ArbCom case to proceed, you need to flag them down (or add another workshop request), as I do not have any ability to make the case proceed itself. :P - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 03:47, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
The case is proceeding as quickly as might be expected, I think; see Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/TingMing/Proposed decision. Kirill Lokshin 15:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanxs for the message! I took a look at the guidelines and they look good to me. =) Jumping cheese Cont @ct 19:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Loren, since the new conventions have been established, can I make political edits now? (I promise I won't edit war.)-- Jerry 22:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey Loren, Thank you for the The Wiki Wiffle Bat. :D Nat Tang talk to me! | Check on me! | Email Me! 01:03, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the Cucumber award!-- Jerry 19:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Just went to checkuser and User:Navality is a confirmed sockpuppet of TingMing [2] Momusufan 15:15, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I think the usage of adposition before the term Republic of China or Taiwan should be standardized. I believe in should never be placed before ROC because ROC is not a geographical location, and should instead be placed before Taiwan. Of on the other hand should be used before either Taiwan or ROC depends on the usage. Due to my limited English-speaking ability, I would appreciate if you would reword the idea and add it to the conventions or address it on the talkpage. Thanks.-- Jerry 14:39, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
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I've undone your block of this user as he isn't a vandal only account but has good contributions in his list. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 09:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi Loren - I was wondering if you could give me a hand. Apparently there was approval for some Patriot-3 batteries and money for submarines in Taiwan's latest defence budget. But details on it in English are sketchy. Could you do me a favour and translate the following article? I think it has a lot of info but it's not in English:
Don't worry about the non-military bits - I just need to know what the situation is regarding the arms purchases. Thanks! John Smith's ( talk) 15:51, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
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CALL TO REFORM: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese), ---4--- Names of groups
My point is that the linguistics box should include the romanizations appliable to the correspondent chinese characters, both in simplified and traditional chinese... For instance, in the ROC, we can see IN THE LINGUISTICS BOX both the simplified and the traditional form, and the appliable transliterations: In the country infobox we only see the traditional variant, CAUSE THATS THE OFFICIAL ONE THERE... DPP has its own linguistics box and its own political party box, where we only see the traditional variant, the same applies to some newspapers, TV channels... and so on...
Im interested in such a move, cause there is no a clear standard.. just today another contributor suggested to undo my reform of the "KMT" page, cause i added a lingustics infobox, with wiktionary links, and erased the simplified fomr FROM THE POLITICAL INFOBOX, where it shouldn't be... If we add simplified to the political party infobox, we should add simplified too to the ROC country infobox, where its not the official script, and well, that makes no sense...
I dunno if I should ask for support, or just unilaterally declare it a new policy... If somebody created that infobox, well, y dont we use it? Gumuhua ( talk) 17:33, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
If we just use the appliable characters to inform, well, I dont understand why somebody decided to create the chinese characters wiktionary...
So, can I just go to the guidelines and add what I consider right? Cause I was expecting for something like an open debate... but urs is the 1st message regarding the question I receive, and I have sent at least 6 copies to other taiwan project contributors... it seems nobody cares...
U r an editor.. please, explain to me the difference between a regular or common contributor (me), and an editor... thx...
So, what should I do if ppl keep deleting the wiktionary links, or adding simplified characters in a non linguistics infobox of a taiwan related article, where simplified has no legal status? Gumuhua ( talk) 21:47, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello there again... just now I read ur answer... I appreciate that u try to give me the most inclusive answer possible... So, according to ur experience, how much time is it needed to reach a consensus? Gumuhua ( talk) 16:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello there (yes, me again):
Would u mind to help me to move the article "Cihu" to "Cihu Presidential Burial Place"?
I have tried, but the "Cihu Presidential Burial Place" page already exists (as a redirect), and it seems the discussion page has to move together with the article...
My grounds: Cihu is the village located nearby, and its not the same as the spot. The spot is located around Cihu, nothing in the "Cihu Presidential Burial Place" says much about the village (well, it says nothing). Should't the article be named after the official name of the spot? Cheers Gumuhua ( talk) 18:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Please, explain how can I do that... Gumuhua ( talk) 23:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)