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Hiding, I've been cleaning up references to "Epic" and came across the November 28th entry. Do you know what the sentence about the NYT is supposed to mean? I can't figure out what to change the link to without understanding! John (Jwy) 02:33, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for assuming good faith. I wasn't trying to close down debate, I only wanted to encourage people to centralise their discussion on userboxes.-- God of War 21:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
_ _ I wrote on Template talk:Marvel-Comics-stub
and
and also referred to
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics/templates (which i had written before reading the Marvel-tmplt tk, but saved abt a minute later than the edit i just mentioned).
_ _ Almost a half an hour later, you responded on that tmplt-tk page, AFAICS about stub-policy matters only.
_ _ As i said, i'd by then already posted at almost the same time my first post in
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics/templates#Second Independent Thread (then the only content in section "W-Proj refs in Stub tags"), including:
You indicated reading this 4 minutes after your previous comment, in saying
_ _ 8 minutes later, on my talk page, you wrote (my emphasis added, to focus on the civility aspect w/o omitting its context)
_ _ I was thoro in organizing that chronology, trying to be as clear as i can what comments you are referring to when, but i end just vaguely puzzled; never mind.
_ _ I've also taken the opportunity to read the civility policy that you politely & IMO wisely lk'd; i've never, i think, had it directly cited to me, and probably have always read the term on WP as "forgoing of personal attacks", while i find its counsel usefully far broader. I consciously considered, as i was writing, that it was important to stick to the characterization of the text, and not of the editors responsible for it, and implicitly counted -- contrary to the civility standard -- on others taking the responsibility to distinguish such characterizations from personal ones. (I told myself more or less that
But that was still not what the civility standard is about!)
_ _ I agree that i fell short of what
WP:CIV urges; in particular, i did indeed throw around "self-centered and rude", and "suck" and for that matter "spam". And even tho i didn't "tell people they suck", i probably have myself to blame for eliciting that intimation.
_ _ There's a limit to how seriously i'll take this "official policy": it seems to need that status primarily to keep people from unilaterally removing
from it, as they might to turn it into an uncivil club that they'd like to wield. But nevertheless, your reference to it has been valuable for me. Thanks.
--
Jerzy•
t 01:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
At the least, sure, i can pursue it in other cases without dragging you back into it. But are you asking me to think thru whether i can drop the issue completely where it stands now? (That'd be a lot easier to do, if it turns out to be very hard to find the instances elsewhere! [grin])
--
Jerzy•
t 23:00, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Hey there, just wanted to say I read your comments over at her rfc, and they made a lot of sense. I've not had the time to read the full dicussion(s) yet, but though I am opposed entirely to her actions, I am mindful of the fact that such a legitimate position as is held by many (if not the majority of) users, can quickly become lost and degraded in value in what is seen from the exterior as a 'mad mob rabble thirsting for blood' as I believe was mentioned on the corresponding rfa. It was a welcome sight to see a clear mind amongst the throng. - Hayter 18:03, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Oops. Fixed, thanks. I seem to have some sort of discussion closing disease lately. Anyway, thanks!-- Sean| Bla ck 20:58, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Has the template any demonstrable consensus behind it? I notice we have {{ Not verified}}, would that not also, and perhaps better, suit your purpose? No and no. Please feel very welcome to bring it to TfD so those who delete nn articles all the time can comment. The rationale for {{ Notability}} is in its first edit summary. Thank you for your note. -- Perfecto 11:44, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Already had the edit window open for comments! I've heaped a little praise on you there, but i won't be afraid to gush on you a bit here: please, oh please, have my wikibabies. You have done the work of twelve editors, and should be roundly applauded. - brenneman (t) (c) 12:17, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
And thank you for the work you've done with the guidelines. I, too, look forward to working with you on other articles. -- Dragonfiend 01:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you closed the sheep vote MFD as delete, but you didn't actually delete it. Cheers, Talrias ( t | e | c) 01:27, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Generally, I delete articles asap after closing the debate, just to avoid the possible confusion. But you left a note on AN, so you did at least alert people, even if noone listened. It is something of a tricky debate to close. Obviously ignoring Carnildo, I'm also inclined to give little time to Sebastian who states a refusal to even entertain the debate properly (including after the provision of a link he should have found for himself). Extreme Unction writes a very persuasive comment which at least one other editor adopts (and this is, after all, a discussion, not a vote), although the reasoned keepers are not completely without merit. Xoloz's comment, whilst possibly true is quite effectively rebutted by Cryptic, whose comment also harks back to the previous VfD. The previous VfD was not handled as well as it might have been, and from reading that, I think there is little support to retain the page, at least on the English Wikipedia (there were transwiki to Meta suggestions which have some merit). Taken altogether, I think that finding a rough consensus to delete is reasonable and certainly within admin discretion. I must confess to being unsure of why you userfied it, though, but that's up to you.
However, if this were to come up on Deletion Review, there is a chance it would be overturned since it is below the numerics of two-thirds, and no reasoning is given. When closing a debate that is borderline or one in which your discretion is used, a few sentences explaining why you did what you did is an effective way of making your decision stick, and demonstrating that you were, indeed, within your discretion. It also doesn't leave people wondering why you did what you did. It's both permissible, and encouraged. - Splash talk 15:04, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm. Probably ask the user to who's space you moved it if they actually want it there bearing in mind the transwiki and delete or not as they say. It's an editorial decision to transwiki, though (apart from getting hold of the deleted history, but that's available upon request).- Splash talk 13:40, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
I like the intent, but its sheer length and amount of footnotes make the page somewhat impractical imho. R adiant _>|< 22:25, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
On the other hand, you've done to it what I've wanted to do, but not had the time to do, for some while. (I came to it to cross check something just now, and was greatly surprised.) Uncle G 04:26, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, the thing is that it really isn't a proposal. Tagging it as such leads to the misunderstanding that decisions cannot (and are not) be based on the concept of notability, when in fact such decisions occur daily. Of course the exact definition is up to debate and subjective, but that in concept is very wiki, and applies to many of our other guidelines (e.g. Wikipedia:Consensus, Wikipedia:Attack page and Wikipedia:Reliable sources all fail to give an exact definition of the term they're describing, nor should they be required to). R adiant _>|< 18:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi Hiding, I think people are getting way too worked up about these lists. They are useful for those anyone who is researching or is interested in Secular Jewish culture as User:Smerus is doing (a PhD on Jewry in music), therefore it is no way an indiscriminate colllection of information, Regards Arniep 15:12, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for misunderstanding. I did not imply any bad faith on your part. However, I do believe that the discussion should be on that page should indeed stop, as it raises too much tension and blood pressure.-- Pecher 15:29, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Re: your adding a reference to the Patrick Alexander (cartoonist). I have seen a bunch of your edits on comics articles over the past months and have been really impressed, 'specially on your contributions to Eddie Campbell's wikipedia page. So, thanks a whole lot! You rule. DollyD 00:07, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi Hiding, Are you going to follow up with the developers about this (perhaps send mail to mail:wikitech-l or enter an enhancement request on Wikipedia:MediaZilla)? I'm not sure if my response at WP:VPT reads like it, but I think this is an excellent idea. -- Rick Block ( talk) 14:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, thanks for the supportive comment. I guess I just needed a little break. I am outraged by the conduct of User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow; he is insulting, and further, his edits are horrendous. His obsession with his very few subject matters (mainly Batman related) has been an annoyance to most other editors of those pages. Now I am being wikistalked, in that he has moved into the whole limited series debate simply because I had begun editing this area. I will not be leaving wikipedia, and I will strictly edit T-Man's foolinshness. Further, I will ignore his rude comments towards me completely. Thanks again for your support. Dyslexic agnostic 16:27, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
...BTW. I got the pages in my contribution list first and then hw wikistalked me. (I read above these words after answering you below). I even call him a stalker and harasser firts. We agreed in the past to leave insults, but since he won't stop calling me moron I guess he likes to be called names. History pages don't lie. Anyways, that's not important, since I started fighting fire with fire now, my only rule is never to delete info and rather copyedit. Other thing... he ignores all about DC and yet, he edits deleting stuff in several DC pages; as you can verify in the middle of this page and here.-- T-man, the worst "vandal" ever 19:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Well... that's because I suck... I'm not that sure about that "be bold" advise anomore. hah, hah. I dind't even finish to read your message, I'm gonna. But I was really expecting somebody with your reaction. The only thing I can say is I'm very sorry. I apologise.
If a series wasn't limited i wouldn't be called maxiseries. But I don't remember how are maxiseries call when they are within an ongoing series? And that got me confused: I guess my lesson here is never to "be Bold" when I'm confused. Sorry I got in your nerves on the process. -- T-man, the worst "vandal" ever 18:56, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Did I insulted anyone? I agree with the no insults policy, but maybe I sliped. Particularly on talk pages. I'm sorry if I did... I moved "list of maxiseries" to list of "list of limited maxiseries". Then I did a bigger mistake by trying to fix things: Istead of moving back the info, erasing the redirect on "list of maxiseries", I tried to fix things by moving "list of maxiseries" to "list of l maxiseries", to then (having no page named list of maxiseries") move "list of limited maxiseries" to "list of maxiseries"... Then I learned the discussion page was named "Talk list of l maxiseries", and moved that to "Talk list of maxiseries". Everything seemed ok after that, but I guess there are going to be some functional errors if nobody with better skills than mine checks it.-- T-man, the worst "vandal" ever 19:45, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Why don't you just erase list of limited series? its existence is just a mistake of mine that even I won't defend.--
T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 20:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Oops, I ment to say the "list of l maxiseries". hahaha--
T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 21:46, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Sorry. I always move talk pages with the article. Some of the page moves by T-Man he did by creating new pages and shifting the contents. I won't be making further moves, as we have only two pages now, limited series (comics) and list of limited series. Dyslexic agnostic 19:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
I there a list of limited series?? that's a good idea there can be all the maxiseries, miniseries and regular limited series and even tie-ins... (Sorry, I overread again after editing)-- T-man, the worst "vandal" ever 19:19, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
So you moved the list of maxiseries to "list of limited series" I've got only one thought before you go any further... you are man, Hiding!! great idea!! keep it real!!... You are the coolest. You are like the Solomon King of wikipedia. BTW, do you think the "Tie-in series" term is ok? Those limited series have been called that for sure, but I dunno if that's the most apropiated term-- T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 21:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Yes. Brian K. Vaughn has made clear on several occasions that Y and Ex Machina will only run for 60 and 50 issues respectively [1] [2]. Thus by any reasonable definition they are limited series. If this does not comply with the current definition of a limited series, then I suggest that definition be changed. Iron Ghost 21:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for responding so promptly. I'm afraid I can not agree. If Ex Machina and Y are not limited series then what are they? I understand that they do not meet with the current definition of a limited series which is why I suggested that the definition is in error. I suggest a Straw Poll be set up on the limited series list talk page to resolve this issue. I trust you will have no objections to this? With regard to the article where Vaughn refers to the series as ongoing I think that if you read the article more carefully you will find that you have taken his words out of context. Iron Ghost 22:54, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, the fact that you mentioned that Vaughan refered to Y as an ongoing series without also noting that he also said that the series would end at around 60 issues led me to conclude that you had misread the article. My apologies.
Clearly we have a difference of opinion and this current discussion is creating more heat than light. Therefore I've removed Y and Ex Machina from the list to comply with the definition as it stands and have suggested a change of criteria on the talk page. Hopefully this will settle the matter one way or the other. Iron Ghost 00:10, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Dyslexic Agnostic. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Dyslexic Agnostic/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Dyslexic Agnostic/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Kelly Martin ( talk) 02:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I'm trying to clear out the backlog at the requested templates page and wanted to ask you about Wikipedia:Requested_templates#Comic_art_citation_templates. It looks like you created Template:Comic strip reference for this. Is the request closed or are you still looking for a hand on getting things working? -- CBD ☎ ✉ 02:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Dyslexic's user page has been vandalized. Could you look into it? Thanks (I'm not really sure what the procedure is, I'm sure a revert's in order, but I was wondering about leaving that pleasant vandalism note on the anon user's talk page.) Thanks.-- Gillespee 05:26, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Alan Moore has been selected as the comics collab of the month. Please stop by and see what you can contribute! ike9898 02:34, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Hiding, you voted oppose on the requests for rollback privileges consensus poll, suggesting that people who would like rollback should just become admins instead - that being an admin is "no big deal". While I think that in an "ideal" Wikipedia, this would indeed be the case, I believe that over time standards for becoming an administrator have clearly risen. This is apparent by looking at the RFA system throughout Wikipedia's existence - intially, all one had to do to become an admin was just ask nicely, now we have a complicated procedure. A recent proposal on the RFA talk page for requiring at least 30 minimum support votes and a significant number of existing contributions was given some serious consideration. There is frequent talk of "bad admins slipping through the RFA net", and while you may not agree with that philosophy of adminship it is undeniable that the standards have risen.
Because of this, candidates who pass are already very experienced with Wikipedia. While this in itself is no bad thing, it means that for the month or so before they become admins they are not being given the tools an admin has which would help them to improve Wikipedia, by removing vandalism and performing administrative tasks such as moving pages. The qualities which make a good administrator are not determined by length of stay on Wikipedia or number of friends you have, but by personality and character. Time at Wikipedia only gives familiarity with the way things are done here. However, being at Wikipedia for an extra month doesn't grant any special insight into the ability to determine which edits are vandalism and which are not. This is why I believe that we should hand out rollback to contributors who are clearly here to improve Wikipedia but won't pass the RFA procedure because of their percieved lack of familiarity with policy by some Wikipedians. I think that adminship should be no big deal, like you, however I see just two ways to make sure Wikipedians can quickly and efficiently remove vandalism - either by all those who believe adminship should be no big deal involving themselves much more in RFA, or by supporting this proposal and giving out rollback to good contributors who have not yet been here long enough to become admins. We have to remember that our ultimate aim here is to produce an encyclopedia, and we should balance the idealism of "adminship should be no big deal" with the pragmatism of granting rollback to our best non-admin contributors. I would be very grateful if you would reconsider your viewpoint on this issue. Thanks, Talrias ( t | e | c) 13:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, it should have been noted on the AfD, and that was an oversight on my part. Sorry about that. Ambi 03:03, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Hiding, my rampage was out of place. I think I apologize and explain thngs to DA more apropiately now. There you can get a little better how come I outbursted in such inapropiate way. People doesn have to call you a bad word or attack you directly to offend you. I'm sure you can recall people on real life are likewise able to make you feel you like exploding in such indirect manner. You hit the blank when you remembered DA this, DA's words on my page, athough polite, coming from this person, come like knifes in the stomach.
Thanks for dealing with me.
-- T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 03:30, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
WP:SNOWBALL. Johnleemk | Talk 10:56, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
No, sorry , what comments. I just edited, I don't think I removed anything, there was no edit conflict. What's happened - I'll take a look. Giano | talk 22:42, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Well there's the diff [3] God knows how I acheived that - I didn't even see your comments - what do we do now - do you put them back or me? Giano | talk 22:45, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
I guess my big issue here is that no other wiki biography page would quote what others have said about someone, especially if it just an opinion. Would we say "John Doe states that George Bush is a weasel?" No, because John Doe's statements ae irrelevant; what is relevant is what George himself did or did not do. Then why do it here? If these comments are by someone who actually was the subject of newsworthy interaction with Byrne, then there eyewitness evidence may be relevant. But there opinions don't mean anything. I'm not a Byrne-nut (a fan of his earlier work though)... my complaint is not in the POV category, but the "encyclopedic" issue. There must be a better way to get the points across... unless the real reason that there is so much controversy over this is that it isn't really worth putting on the page anyways. Dyslexic agnostic 00:45, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying my comments on Talk:Mesh Computers. I think we were trying to say the same thing about how the AfD was going (I guess the terminology I would use to describe a discussion like that would be that if the discussion hasn't run its course yet, that there ipso facto isn't a consensus there but rather that it is developing, with that implying that the flow of the discussion could change). And in my (admittedly somewhat limited) experience with DRV, I would say that the article would most likely have been kept deleted if not for the new evidence, though it probably would have had to have been as sparse a discussion as the first AfD listing. It seems quite common practice to keep things deleted if no redeeming content is found, regardless of errors in process. -- Jonel | Speak 01:51, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the rewrite, it really did need it. I just came upon the article on dead-end pages, checked the history and saw nothing worthwhile there and for some reason didn't think to google that one before listing it :(. But the article looks good now so I'm happy enough. - Bobet 15:12, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Except for the later week on January on which I edited in good faith LODK and Limited Series, in a counter-offensive attitude, we both have claimed to be stalked, but I was the first and I've never admitted so. When ever he says so I feel he is mocking me. Never mind that, notice the dates of the edits. You will see that most of DA edits on my edits are mostly 1-2 hours after I edit and that. To make it easier to understand you can separate original edits (the ones in which a user makes a contrib. by adding material) from corrective edits (including blind reverts, counter-blind reverts, etc). Thanks.
I try moving the non-controversial discussions (including speedies) to the archive once a week. I won't archive any pages where there was any substantial discussion involved until 8 days + the time it takes me to look at the page and archive it. The way I understand it, a deletion subpage should not be removed from the daily log and deleted (mostly for AFD) if it was closed early, but if you think I archived something controversial, feel free to move it back. Tito xd( ?!? - help us) 22:25, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I only just found the page yesterday and saw it was on the deletion list. It doesn't seem to require too much effort to put a few headlines from various sources, so I'll see how it goes. The most work seems to be archiving old months. Kurando | ^_^ 10:19, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you rejected a manga/anime barnstar (actually quite a while ago, I didn't notice before) on the basis of copyvio. While I don't know whether you just put in your 2 cents because of Wikipedia policy, or because you actually care about anime/manga, you might be interested to know that I've created an image which doesn't use any fair use or copyrighted images. Go Wikipedia:Barnstar_and_award_proposals#Proposal_-_Manga_and_Anime_Barnstar for the discussion. -- Y Ynhockey || Talk Y 20:14, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I am under TOTAL PERSONAL ATTACK by T-Man, here and here and here. Despite the 48-hour ban, he continues to use his own page to attack me, now attacking my credibility and professionalism!!! I ask for someone to intervene and stop it, and remove the attacks from history! Please! Dyslexic agnostic 02:26, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Is it okay if I take a day or two to think about it? - SoM 02:20, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
As far as I know, he's not responded to any attempts to communicate with him, and he's also not stopped his pattern of behavior of repeatedly linking on hundreds of pages to a site that seems to be controlled by him. This is disruptive behavior, difficult to reverse, and I don't think a short temporary block is out of the question at all. If after the short block JamieHari continues his behavior, longer blocks can then be tried. — Lowellian ( reply) 11:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I was wondering if maybe I could ask if people who agree with part of it(such as yourself), can just sign under part of it -- do you think that could be a good idea? Perhaps there could be a graph such as this
User | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Rick Block | x | ||||
Karmafist | x | x | x | x | x |
Whoever | x | x | x |
And so on...
Also, I'm thinking of simplifying #4, the sub-arbcom thing is beginning to seem unnecessary, I put some ideas above yours, thank you for adding your ideas, please let me know if I can help out at all. Karm a fist 20:02, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I've already hit DrBat once with a 3RR block. I wouldn't oppose hitting him again with another one (even for 48 hours) especially considering I specifically asked him NOT to engage in edit warring [4]. AriGold OTOH ... sure, hit him too. Time outs for both of them. howch e ng { chat} 23:34, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you very diplomatically refrained from archiving my comments when you created the PROD talk page archive. I appreciate it, but it's not necessary - feel free to archive any comment of mine along with the rest of the cruft. ;)
- ikkyu2 ( talk) 07:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I revert something back to what THREE MODERATORS said was the better use, and remove an image that had been deleted 2 or 3 times in a week and you block me? Good one. AriGold 13:12, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm trying to fix links to three-dimensional. For some pages it makes sense to link directly to space (mathematics). I noticed you were involved in a discussion at Talk:Space about removing this redirect, but didn't get any input from the folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics. Any reason i shouldn't just go ahead and remove this redirect? EricR 16:14, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
If you're still happy to nominate to nominate me, please go ahead (honestly, I don't see myself passing, but what the hey, I'm sure I'll benefit from the experience :)) - SoM 17:35, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm a guy :). And thanks. - SoM 23:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Anarchism#Anarcho-capitalism: Opponents argue that such relationships are not fully consensual, but coercive in nature (for example wage slavery) [5]
The source is being used as a primary source to give evidence for the above claim, that "opponents of a-capitalism think... etc", since Infoshop.org are "opponents of a-capitalism". Infinity0 talk 22:04, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
3 people (4 including an IP user) including me support the addition of this source; RJII is the only one so far who doesn't. He is basically disputing the legitimacy of Infoshop.org's claims to be anarchist, which I think is absurd. Infinity0 talk 22:26, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
There are four people who support the inclusion of the source, but RJII hasn't had a chance to reply yet. Infinity0 talk 16:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
The above is my response. Or did you mean a direct one to your question, which would be "yes, since it's already being used as one". Infinity0 talk 18:05, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, you're right. RJII is just grasping at smoke on that point. Infinity0 talk 20:29, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Hey, you may need to lock the article again. Infinity refuses to allow the article to state that the FAQ was authored by self-described "social anarchists" that oppose individualist anarchism. The reader needs to know that it's coming from a communist perspective. Infinity wants to hide that for some reason. This is a very partisan source that openly says it's out to discredit anarcho-capitalism. It really needs to be noted where they're coming from. Thanks. RJII 17:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
"Having reread the first request it appears there are doubts over POV pushing and personal attacks".
Hiding, we've worked really hard in the last month to make the Batman article NOT just 'list all your favorite Batman stories.' There's plenty of stuff in there that IS a critical part of Batman history. Before putting this in, I'd need to hear some kind of a reason why a not-yet-published (out of continuity, right? It's in all-star?) Batman story rates. This isn't 'press-releas-opedia'. :-) Simnel 19:42, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for helping improve the article on WonderCon. To answer your question, I used the program book from this year's convention for the history.
I noticed your comment at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship#Rogerthat: I think it might behoove those people who seem to invest so much stock in edit summaries to mention it on people's talk pages when they stumble across users not using edit summaries, I know I've done that in the past. A gentle prod early on might stop the issue being a contentious obstacle when they get here..
Well, I bug people all the time about that :) I even have a bot now in testing, which goes to the recent changes, fishes a scoop of edits, checks the edit summary usage of people, and bugs those having under 50%. :) Soon will run that regularly.
The only problem is that there are just so many users, can't educate all of them, you know. :) By the way, I think that opposing per lack of edit summaries is indeed a bit silly, but it does serve as a good preemtive measure. Plenty of users stumble onto the RfA page, so they will know that edit summaries are important indeed. :)
You can reply here if you have comments. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov ( talk) 03:27, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that you're expanding the MBV article. I started a draft ( User:ShaneCavanaugh/My_Bloody_Valentine) but haven't had time to complete it. Take a look for any ideas if you like. I tried to keep track of my references as best I could. If you're already finished, that's even better as I can just fill in details you might have missed. — ShaneCavanaugh 00:19, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
There is a website out there somewhere that lists all the events in pop-music history (prominently births) through time. I don't remember the site address, and I'm in no position to find it now, but I can get it to you on Monday. I think I just typed "Colm O'Ciosoig" +"born in" into Google and it popped up. Remove it for now and I'll source it on Monday, if thats ok? Jdcooper 00:01, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes. Johnleemk | Talk 14:50, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Ta, but I'm not incredibly surprised. What surprised me was that it was a guy who apparently held a grudge from an incident I didn't even remember that was a large part of what did for me.
Thanks for the thought tho. - SoM 18:07, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I have some acquaintance with fair use law, but I'm unfamiliar with the "no better image" aspect (per the Typhoid Mary debate). Can you fill me in what that's about? Nareek 20:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
RJII is consistently removing the consensus version from anarchism, without any coherent reason. The consensus was agree to by 3 other editors (CJames, me and AaronS). Infinity0 talk 17:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Infinity is wrong. No one agrees with what he is saying. Can you lock the page, so this can be sorted out? Thanks. RJII 18:04, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
A final decision has been made in this case and it has been closed. -- Tony Sidaway 14:51, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
The site is vanity. Let me look into the creator a bit more. Phil Sandifer 19:38, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
You probably saved some poor guy named Jake Rahn at least a few moments of discomfort by making the call to delete. Thanks for doing the right thing :) — Adrian~enwiki ( talk) 21:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh right. Thank you. - Splash talk 23:22, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Please comment on my rfc Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jersey Devil-- Jersey Devil 21:46, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Apparently WP suffered a few database failures which caused the bot to incorrectly read and misclasify some pages, the bot has been stopped in the meantime while we look at the code to figure out how to solve this problem. Sorry about that -- Tawker 19:20, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm touched and grateful both for your help and your example these many months, and your patience as I navigate the labyrinth of Wiki policies, templates and short-cuts. Recognition from one's peers, from a "nice work, laddie" to a symbol for others to see on one's page, well, it all helps make the volunteerism worthwhile. Thank you again — Tenebrae 20:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Hiding. Thank you for the welcome back. Hope you are doing well also. Maurreen 07:47, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi there. Just a note that the template you want for the above article is {{ Delrev}}, not {{ Drv}}. The latter is meant to be placed on the (last) AFD page of the article under discussion at the Review. The talk pages of the templates bear more information. Very kind regards — Encephalon 17:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Kill them both - Darius has self-published nine books, has one academic publication, which is an article in a bound collection. Nothing he has done has reached any significant level of notability or attention in the field, and his website contains numerous claims that wander from the merely self-aggrandizing to the actually misleading. Maybe when he puts out a real book, but for now, no. Phil Sandifer 19:51, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
You have accused me of needlessly reverting edits, without bothering to document where I may have done this; and you have suggested that a comment made on a talk page is an "edit." Presumably, this is in response to Midgley's recent hobby of complaining about me to every admin he could find. Please retract your accusations and apologize immediately. -- Leifern 23:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
All right. You're right. I guess that I do have a few copyright violations on my site. The Yukon Song was originally posted as simply text, but I just happened to find the picture on another website, and thought it would look nicer. I'm sorry for contesting you so much, and for any rudeness. Please understand that I do not have any bad intentions, and that I am not attempting to violate copyright. If you would be so kind, would you let me know how to make my site legal? I really want to keep the interviews on, but I can add a link to the official site for one of them. Thank you. -
Mike
(talk)
02:46, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I forgot to mention. To my knowledge, the Honk magazine interview is public domain, as it as conducted over twety years ago, and the periodical itself ceased publication in the late 1980's. I'm not sure about the one from Comics Journal though, since the magazine is still being published, but it was printed 17 years ago. -
Mike
(talk)
20:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I see. If I had a disclaimer for the interviews, would I then be okay, or would it still be a problem? Also, is a text version of The Yukon Song allowed, as that is how it was originally on that page? -
Mike
(talk)
20:38, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the link to my site from the article. The main reason I am asking for copyright advice is not to necessarily get a link from WP, but also so that I do not run into trouble if the copyright holders happen to come accross my site. Maybe someday, I'll add it back, but for now, I'll let it be. I acctually cleaned out the links section, and the only fan sites there now are Calvin and Hobbes Hideout, Magic on Paper, and the Jumpstation. Does that sound good to you? Thanks. -
Mike
(talk)
21:05, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Maybe this is where the confusion is coming from. In the United States they are a little bit more lenient on this kind of stuff. I'm almost positive that old magazine interviews are allowed to be used, on the grounds that the magazine isn't selling anymore. In fact, I have seen on another C&H site that they aquired it through a public domain office. Posting a small amount comics (@5-10) is, I believe legal too, as long as you don't go overboard, and you use it for discussion purposes. However, having a large collection on your site in without a doubt violation. Sorry for all the ranting. -
Mike
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21:17, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh, my sencre apologies. I did not realize that it was vandalism to remove a finished discussion from a talk page. I just did not want to waste space. -
Mike
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22:02, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
hi, why have you deleted me? -- Blisz 12:49, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Hiding, this question is about the above person. There was a question about this author/artist raised on her talk page a while back. Since you said there that you'd get back with the answer in a few days, and it's been about 3 months, I'd like to at least ask you if you were able to find the answer or not.
If you weren't, I'll go and look for it myself.
To clarify, the question was, "Was Tove Jansson clearly homosexual or not?"
Much appreciated, -- Zaorish 04:13, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks so much for this minor bit of help. ^_^ -- Zaorish 11:25, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
THis person has blanked the
Secondary characters in Calvin and Hobbes page five times within a short period of time. The IP is 204.108.121.129. -
Mike
(talk)
23:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey thanks for taking care of the archiving there on MfD. Perhaps you can help me be clearer on the instructions on the page, which read "After 8 days please remove a day's closed discussions from this page and place it in the relevant archive, creating a dated section if necessary." My understanding was that that it was saying that discussions should be closed after 8 days, then moved to the closed section for 8 more days. I've been sitting here staring at that this week trying to figure out if I was mis-reading that or not, and if all it was saying was that stuff could be archived after just the 8 days of being an active discussion. I'm a little new to maintaining MfD so I wasn't really sure. Second, I didn't intend the dating notices as instruction creep, it was mainly just something I'd added to help myself to not have to mentally add out 16 days from a given date all the time (unless it turns out I was wrong on that to begin with). Ëvilphoenix Burn! 01:34, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
That took me a little by surprise. I haven't given it any particular thought (before getting your message, anyway) because it can be so hard to gauge where the community is leaning on this at any given time. I've also only 10 months editing and 7 months adminning and I'd have to defend what might appear as overeagerness. (I imagine I've upset some people on the way, too.) Perhaps I could think about it if I let a little more time drift by. I'm pleasantly surprised that someone should enquire of me on the topic, though. It might be interesting to see how Zscout370's RfB goes...there are fewer than usual "too many" comments and people do seem more willing than before to think more widely. - Splash talk 17:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
FYI, I DID NOT ADD the link to my SD site! It's been up for months, and I simply updated it when it moved to a new URL. I added it back because I felt your removal of it was unjustified. Policy allows linking to a major fan site. -
Mike
(talk)
21:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I always thought that edit summaries were not important for talk pages, but I guess I was wrong. Andries 21:33, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Hiding - When I compare the tenor of my last two comments
[6]
[7] with that of your last two
[8]
[9] I see I have much to learn. The incredible stability of the
website guidelines following your re-write speaks to what an excellent editor you are far better I'm able to. So thanks.
brenneman
{L} 00:04, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Hiding,
I'm honored by the offer from an admin I highly respect, but I have no wish to be an admin. I have always seen myself as the perfect lackey, providing "support staff" for you fine folks who make the hard choices around here. :) I don't have the time to give the site my best efforts, so I consider myself unworthy of the shiny buttons. Besides, I have had polite but firm disagreements in the past with several vocal members of the community, and I have no wish to incite the inevitable drama that I foresee such an occasion would produce. I'll always remember your kindness in asking, but I'm happy as a user. :) One the other hand, if you ever have a task fit for a lackey, this admiring one is available. Best wishes, Xoloz 18:46, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I have a favour to ask. Me and one or two other editors are having some trouble with User:RJII over on An Anarchist FAQ. He keeps inserting POV into the article. Could you come and mediate as a neutral party?
I don't know what else to do. I tried to report him at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#RJII_disruptive_and_POV_editing but then I foudn out that he had already reported me at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:infinity0, including making personal attacks and lying about what I have done and the current consensus. I think his behaviour is completely out of order, but so far it has been an hour and no admin has responded. Thanks. :( -- infinity 0 23:20, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
I understand your point about this category being vague, so I propose a compromise: Including a list of qualities in a fictional character that conform with the definition of an antihero put out in wikipedia's own article on the subject. Sound good? -- Treybien 22:20, June 11 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I want to thank you for having faith and helping me over the past day. I'm indebted, and appreciate it a lot. Again, thanks! -- infinity 0 20:23, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Measles&curid=58994&diff=46812423&oldid=46748456
Given the behaviour of that clacque, this may turn into a job ... I wonder if you would care to take note of User:Whaleto's behaviour immediately after returning from a 24 hour block for inivility?. Midgley 21:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I think you might have been a bit hasty tagging this historical; but I agree the tide is against it. For what it's worth I'm on your side here. It rankles that notability is not a strict criterion for inclusion.
I think for one, you need to use the word "notability"; it's accepted as the word that points to the concept, whatever quibble you might be able to raise in favor of "significance". For two, you need to realize that this is a hot-button issue; it doesn't take a genius to interpret any notability proposal as an attack against his beloved cruft. For three, I suggest you gather together a small working group and draft the proposal with plenty of group input: make sure it's really ready to roll out with significant support.
If you want to put in some effort here, let me know. John Reid 05:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
copied from User talk:John Reid:
I'm not sure that a move is enough/wise at this point. Perhaps you need to recruit the working party first, then write the proposal, then throw it out for general comment. John Reid 22:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
No, it's your ball; run with it. Please accept my comment in the helpful spirit in which it's intended: You may get more done if you're more open to wider input. It's always tempting to take any criticism as a signal to pass the ball but I think it's better to hang on with one hand while putting the other to an ear. In this case (to beat the analogy for all it's worth) you might like to retreat to the locker room after a tough first half and discuss your playbook while the band is killing Sousa. Second half could be a turnaround.
By the way, I'd really appreciate it if I didn't have to copy your comments back to this page. After all, if we split the conversation between two pages then nobody else can understand what's going on without making an extra effort. John Reid 17:51, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm in a bit of a bind and as a newbie, I've no idea what to do. Perhaps you can help.
I created a Wikipedia account as "OldSkoolGeek" (previously did edits as anonymously) and now not only did I forget my password, I didn't have the opportunity to put in an e-mail address for my profile so I can't e-mail a reminder to myself!
Is there any way to salvage the situation? I rather like my chosen nom de Wiki and am quite loath to give it up. If you like, you can e-mail mail me at xSASHAx (at) hotmail (dot) com.
Thank you!
Hi; I'd like to start an RfC on RJII based on his refusal to respond to criticism. I am the only editor currently engaged in conflict with him, though, so that doesn't meet the two-person requirement. What are the other options? -- infinity 0 15:45, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
(Or maybe that kids'-game line isn't used across the pond?)
Hey there. Here's a cc of my Ally Sloper's Half Holiday discussion:
Hi Hiding. Appreciate your cogent and fair arguments at the IfD for That Image, and also your turnaround. Anyway, its gone now, by fiat, which is probably just as well, so your letter to the board is moot.
Anyway, here's how you can do a good deed for penance. Editor User:Dknights411 has my special sympathy because, while trying to build articles on the NBA, was attacked by a demented and relentless vandal at 1998-99 NBA season, which is not exactly the kind of article that you would expect would have to be protected, but it was. Anyway, completely unrelated to that, he is being asked to remove the small logos of the NBA teams from the standings list.
Now, it seems to me, if anything is fair use, team logos in this use would be. The use is trivial (but useful), the teams have more or less de facto approved their use in this manner, and the teams have more or less (I think) released their use for simple promotional uses like this. But all that's just my guess.
Anyway, Since you seem to be somewhat knowledgeable about fair use, could you take a look at this, and adjudicate between Dknights and User:Ed g2s? Thanks! Herostratus 00:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Hiding, do you think that you would be able to create a new page where discussion could take place, but not baout whether Sam was in the right or wrong, as there clearly is no consensus either way, but what Wikipedia's view should be on such images. If we could put a link on the Community Portal to get more people involved in the discussion so that we don't get the same situation happening again, where an admin get accused of abuse of powers. -- Wisd e n17 11:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I rm the portals proposal from {{ cent}}. HidingHiding, I'd like you to consider this a favor. You need to spearhead the notability initiative; it's a critical issue, very important. That will take up all the time and effort you can give to it. Portals aren't drawing much interest right now and maybe that's okay. We'd like to keep cent short and targeted to active issues. John Reid 02:53, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, it's quite all right if you want to reinsert Wikipedia:Portal/Proposals. I don't think it's good judgement but I won't stand in your way. It's not okay that you should edit the log in the way that you have. For good or bad, I did rm that line; you chose to reinsert. I don't fight about things like this; I'd like you to do the correct thing: restore my signed edit to its original state and note your edit of the template in the log in a new section with the correct date. Thank you.
Meanwhile, let's try to be a bit more direct with our edit sums. It's less than forthcoming to say removing an incorrect statement; it might be better to say restoring Wikipedia:Portal/Proposals. If you feel you need to justify your action, that's what the log page is for. Personally, I don't think there's any need to squabble over it. I certainly would not challenge your reinsertion -- but on the other hand, I would never be distracted by a misleading edit sum, either.
Who is "we"? I don't think there's a "problem" with {cent} -- and I think we all would like it that way. You're included. John Reid 18:38, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, do you think you can get on #wikipedia just around 0100 GMT, in about 2 hours or so? I'd like to chat. John Reid 22:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Hiding - thanks for the comments. I can see why a wikilink within a ref ought to be retained. As for wikilinking each term once per section, sounds a bit bogus to me, conflicts with the guidelines at
Wikipedia:Only_make_links_that_are_relevant_to_the_context#What_should_not_be_linked - that said, they are only guidelines, and if it helps readability then we should repeat the wikilinks I guess. --
Oscarthecat
10:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for wasting time bout that, I totally jumped the gun-- KaptKos 14:03, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
In response to:
I'm not really a great programmer either, but I know what you mean. I'm not sure why the options on the formatting menu are checked and unchecked. The way I use it is to highlight the text in the text box, then go to the toolbar and click the option I want, which usually seems to work. I'm afraid that's about all the help I can give you. -- Mets501 talk 03:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi Hiding,
You are quite correct. However, that issue arose in the DRV discussion, and the consensus was to keep the cross-space link as an exception, in the manner of WP:V,... WP:foo... which redirects are also in the article space, strictly speaking. The result of keeping the redirect, but redirecting to nothing, is absurd. Either keep the redirect as an exception and let it do its job, or delete it. As I said, last I read the discussion, consensus was for the former; but, in any event, the present result (keep, but render useless) is contradictory. See what I mean? Best wishes, Xoloz 15:54, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you! Hello Hiding/Archive 2006. Thank you for your support in my RfA! It passed with a final tally of 91/3/5. I am quite humbled and pleased by the community's show of confidence in me. If you need help or just want to talk, let me know. Cheers! -- F a ng Aili 說嗎? |
I deleted it because we already had three strong/speedy keep votes, and from what I read, a bad faith nomination. As you could see from the votes given, just because someone doesn't want to deal with cleaning up vandalism doesn't mean the article should be deleted. It's already had two previous nominations, the last only two months ago. As Drini replied on my talk page, " Adolf Hitler article gets vandalized often. Should we delete it because someone inserts vandalism?" If you want, you can re-open the AfD for it's full length, I won't object, but that is my reasoning for deleting it when and how I did. — FireFox • T [21:10, 11 April 2006]
Thank you very much for your comments... yeah, I'm starting to realize that I was displaying most of the traits that I despise seeing in admins, and I've come to the conclusion that I would have likely voted "oppose" to my RFA if it hadn't been my own. Thanks, and we'll see how the next month or two goes--should be fun. Happy editing! Matt Yeager ♫ ( Talk?) 23:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi - I noticed you undid my minor revision of the Richey James Edwards page. I had changed the description of 'Catcher In The Rye' from a 'classic' to a 'work of genius'. I attempted this change out of respect to Salinger, who has specifically requested that critics, etc, refrain from referring to the work by the word 'classic'. No biggie I guess.
Many thanks for your support on my recent RfA. It was successful. Thanks again, Mark83 09:00, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Actually I am very interest about roads, expressway and highways in Malaysia. Many highways that I used it for researching. Hiding, please restore this portal about expressway in Malaysia. Thank you! - ( Aiman Ab Majid - 15 April 2006)
Ta. - SoM 22:55, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I updated the page based on your criticism. See talk page. Thanks for discussing this, -- Urthogie 09:50, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Looking at this [10] it occurs to me that it is not just disruption, but from almost the start, to the end, attacks on me including encouraging others to have a go. It really doesn't look like any sort of effort at building an encyclopaedia. You get it presented to you because two of them impinge on your kind effort to determine what a dispute might be. Midgley 16:23, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
There seems to be some, err, confusion as to what constitutes a precendent here and I'd like some wider input. You seem sensible, so you get spammed: There is no justice. Anyway, I'd like to hear a better reason for keeping things than "I've convinced a few other people to do so."
brenneman {L} 05:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi there, Hiding. Could you please take a look at Civil War talk page? Am I confused? Aren't those personal interpretations and therefore speculation? I'm adopting a neutral point of view. I'm for waiting until the comic is out. Regards — Lesfer (talk/ @) 14:11, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
...on the Graphic novel page. Nice catch of that linkspam.
Hope things are going well with you. Things have been too hectic lately for me to do much deep research, but I did add a word to Ally Sloper's Half Holiday — take a look, see what you think, and BTW, kudos on your excellent work and clear writing on that and Ally Sloper — and I just wrote a quick entry on comics artist Dick Rockwell, since it came to my attention he died last week. Also, it looks like another volunteer or two is helping us with the Inkpot Award, so I'm feeling pretty good about Comics Project articles lately. Anyway, just wanted to say hi. Best wishes, Tenebrae 05:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I do think someone should mediate the issue. I requested for mediation back in February, and it was accepted. Nobody took the case, and it was later canceled by the mediation committee because they thought that I had become inactive. We do need mediation. 68.192.25.106 19:08, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Sir, I have looked over your page and was not previously aware of how highly placed you are. My congratulations on having achieved a position of trust and responsibility with the organization. Thank you for all of your work to date. Earlier in the week, you had mentioned that you would consider splitting the page of the list of comic strips so that it could comply with the wikipedia lenghth suggestions. I am completely incompetent in this field, and would welcome someone as experienced as you addressing the matter. Thank you for all you have done and will continue to do with the wikipedia. Badbilltucker 20:28, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Yr hmble and Obd't srvnt presents http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFC/How_to_present_a_case for yr consideration. Feel like reading and ripping it? Please. Midgley 14:44, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Based on Kelly Martin's statement "A cover image should only be used to illustrate an article about that issue. Do not use a full cover image to illustrate an article about a character." [11], should we edit Template:Comiccover in order to remove the line saying that in fact we can use comic covers to illustrate "the copyrighted comic book character(s) or group(s) on the cover of the issue in question"? — Lesfer (talk/ @) 17:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Didn't know you'd made Admin. Good show! You're shouldering a lot of volunteer work, so best wishes and Godspeed! -- Tenebrae 22:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the info about the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics information. It's not really my cup of tea since it is more for comic knowledge relative to the comic buyer. I'm just playing lightly with the idea of something more like a DC Encyclopedia. In this, we could learn about the various buildings within Gotham City, jewelry used, yadda-yadda. You get the idea. As for copying articles that already exist, yes, I'm aware. I'm just doing that temporarily until I can change it more into a formal Encyclopedia format instead of a general sort of article. Any ideas or changes would be grateful. QuintusCinna 3 May 2006
Just noticed that this guy quietly moved Shikari to Shikari Lonestar when I was on WikiBreak back in January so he could insert his pet Hindi dicdef on the page, linking to a redirect (which I only noticed there because an anon's stuck a non-notable band link on the page). Given the way move requests I've been involved with seem to have gone of late, and the reasoning he's used is superfically attractive (although the character never used her full name in-comic, it was only used in a Handbook-style thing which I thought involved a misreading - although I used it on the page for completeness - so it's not obvious), I have no idea what to do. Any suggestions?
PS - I replied at Image talk:Portalcomics.png, but I'm not sure what to do. PPS - Your archive links at the top of the page are broken - you've used backslashes in the actual page titles (e.g. User talk:Hiding/Archive 4), but the links are to the forward-slash versions. - SoM 18:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
lol. -- Syrthiss 16:08, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi there Hiding. Well done indeed.;-) Say, I just realized that you didn't record your support for Xoloz in the Support section, so I made a note to the bureaucrat to watch out for that when closing. Hope this is ok.:-) Cheers — Encephalon 12:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Hiding,
By all rights, you should have been my principal nominator, since you were the first to ask, but it took quite a long time to wear my obstinacy down: secretly, no matter what RfA says, I know I'm too dumb for the job! ;) As I look to make sense of this complex wiki-world, your example will be my guide. Your kind words in supporting me meant a great deal, not in the least because we inhabit the same dark corners of the wiki that others miss -- you've probably seen me make more mistakes than anyone at Wikipedia, so I am honored and amazed to have your confidence. I will do my best to make you proud, but I am sure you'll have to wiki-wiffle bat me every now and then. Goodness knows, I need the help; I will likely rely on your superb abilities in my most trying moments. The benefit for you is that I stand ready to perform any menial work that needs doing! :) Your servant, Xoloz 02:29, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
No fair use rationale was provided for the image. What say you, Hiding? Stanley011 23:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Why don't you just deal with the issue and stop trying to guess my motivations. I refer you to wikipedia's policy on assuming good faith. Stanley011 02:24, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Template:Fairuse rationale needed suggests that fair use images uploaded after 4 May 2006 are supposed to have rationales. For this, I would like to ask you why you removed Fairuse rationale needed|month=May|day=18|year=2006 from Image:Mergelogosmall.JPG while it was uploaded on 18 May 2006.-- Jusjih 07:35, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I've offered to mediate here if you'd be amenable to it. There's a section cooking on my talk already. - brenneman {L} 00:48, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey thanks for taking an interest in my Extinctioners page, please tell me what you think and what improvements you would suggest, let me know (in my discussion page) thanks
Were my edits really that bad? Did I destroy other people's work, or did I do what I intended to do: streamline an awkward section of text, making it have a more NPOV like was asked for on the talk page? Please advise. I'm sick of the revert war. I just found Cheesenw's comments and actions very insulting. -- Chris Griswold 09:25, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
What about using User:Hiding/X2?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:20, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
SPAM WARNING - quasi form letter follows! (#6)
I'm attempting to open the biggest can of worms ever. Your understanding of policy is excellent, and you seem to be a good judge of what will fly and what won't. So I'd like to hear your thoughts on the category I've just created.
brenneman
{L} 07:46, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
So what do I do? The pictures were avaliable for anyone, in the upload page was stated that were owned by DC comics as a comic single panel, and I didn't include them in any article. I hope that you saved the text code of my contribution, because I won't write it whole again, nor I will make a new list. KetinPorta 13:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
We have previously discussed my wanting to put up a policy page for Wikiproject Comics. My problem was that the main page just looked like an impenetrable wall of text. I've since reorganized the main WikiProject Comics page, as well as the templates page. Additionally, I have added spoiler templates to the templates page. Doing all of this, as well as looking to the WikiProject talk page has made what I want to do clear: I am going to go through the talk page archives and create a list of guidelines agreed-upon by consensus. If need be, I will summarize arguments. There are so many people editing these articles, with so many ideas about how to do that. A page like this might make it easier for an editor to have the same editing goals as the project at large. Let me know what you think.-- Chris Griswold 15:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Hiding, and thank you for your supportive comments in my request for adminship! With a final tally of (109/5/1), I have been entrusted with adminship. It's been several weeks since the conclusion of the process, so hopefully you've had a chance to see me in action. Please let me know what you think! Thanks again, and I will do everything I can to justify the trust you've placed in me! (Note, the advert for accountability of course doesn't apply to you since you've taken the plunge! I may crib your notice box if you don't mind... + + Lar: t/ c 03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC) |
Adverts: Like The Beatles?... Like LEGO?... In a WikiProject that classifies?... Are you an accountable admin?... Got DYK?... |
Hi, as you added the clean up tag to the Black Flame entry I thought I'd drop a quick note in to say I've fiddled with it and expanded it (as part of my ongoing 2000 AD efforts) and I was wondering what else you thought was needed for this round of the clean up - I dropped a note in to the talk page so if there is anything you can drop it in there. ( Emperor 00:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC))
Hiya, Hiding. Things are getting very heated at Talk:X-Men: The Last Stand, with users EVula and Facto in particular throwing insults, accusations, and threats. I've initiated a mediation with the latter, but I'm not asking you to get involved. I just thought it might be helpful for an Admin to step in to the movie's talk page with a gentle reminder that we all need to be civil and assume good faith.
If I'm stepping over a line, it's purely from my own ignorance, and let my apologize in advance.
Hope all's going well with you. I guess you've heard about Alex Toth's passing. With kind regards, -- Tenebrae 21:21, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
S'cool. Thanks for getting back. Have a great time in the quaint countryside or, like, Portugal or something, where friends of mine from Tottingham sometimes fly to for a long weekend -- or France, or Amsterdam, or wherever since it's all close. Damn, it's cool to be European! Enjoy... - Tenebrae 21:02, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Someone's just (in the last twenty minutes) moved X-Factor to X-Factor (superhero) because "it isn't notable enough." From the non-standard (disambig) bit, I think it's safe to say this is not a "comics guy" - and I've just checked, he hasn't bothered fixing the redirects (including double-redirects).
Could you please move this back for the nonce, and start a WP:RM on the change? If consensus goes to move to X-Factor (comics) [itself now a double-redirect], fine, but it should be taken "properly" rather than stuck on a non-standard page from someone else's whim - especially whenhe doesn't even know how to do a move. A RM this way round will default to leaving it on the non-standard page, and I don't want to fix the redirects three times (which it would amount to if it was successfully moved back). - SoM 00:14, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Per your stated preference, I've replied to your query on my user page. (God, that sounds pretentious and formal. Sounds like I've been possessed by a lawyer. Yeesh.) — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 17:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
I see that this has just been recreated by Treybien. Can it be speedy deleted? CovenantD 13:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Okily-dokily. Didn't realize the award had such a backstory to it! In any event, please know how much I respect all your efforts and all those other things I said. Keep up the good work. (And re: the commenting-out — those were just grammatical points that didn't seem worth bothering anyone with on the Talk page, though I can always move them there if you think it's worth the effort.) Thanks again, -- Tenebrae 21:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I see you've recently edited {{ cent}}. This is quite all right and I encourage you to help keep it current. But please don't forget to log your changes at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Template log. This will help us stay all on the same page -- no pun intended. Thank you. John Reid 21:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you seem to be in charge over the Comic Portal, so perhaps you could point me in a few things. I would like to contribute to comics, but at the page of the Comic Portal i feel lost. I have some knowledge over Marvel Comics, and a few other comics but not so much as with Marvel Comics(not that I am especially knowledgeable at this). If you could send me a list of articles in need regarding Marvel Comics it would be great, also looking at the List of marvel comics characters, I saw that there are some characters missing that don't have red links, and I don't know how to create articles out of nothing and putting them in that list. If you could answer me all this if you have the time, I would appreciate it very much.-- Captain ginyu 22:53, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that there are two categories, Category:Comics terminology and Category:Comic book terminology. I don't really see the point of having both, and was planning to propose a category merger. But, I thought I'd check with you first (since you edited both pages recently), is there a reason these two are separated? I don't see the difference between "comics" and "comic book". -- SevereTireDamage 21:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I created a template against legalising Gay marriage and it has been erased 2 times by now. I received no explanations.-- R.S.ro 12:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Dude, you're great. (Just thought I'd use an Americanism you probably don't get much over there.) I've been to the overall site before, but not in a while, and that cartoonist-bio book is a terrific resource. Thank you for your thoughtfulness!
Couldn't help but notice the notice the hateful post above. Since when does an NPOV template belong anywhere? Imagie the irony: In the afterlife, these hate-spouting religious zealouts will be damned damn surprised to see they've been, well, damned! -- Tenebrae 14:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I randomly spotted your name since it had the word "block" in it. I saw you have never been blocked. Also as an admin, you have rarely ever blocked anyone (some admins block all the time and you seem to block less than most--and only one indefinite whereas it's popular to block any vandal indefinitely now so most are now always doing indefinite). DyslexicEditor 04:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello Hiding, and thanks for voting in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of (68/19/3). I appreciated your comments, which I hope to take on board in order to gain your respect in my work as an administrator. Best of luck in your continued editing of the encyclopedia! Sam Vimes 17:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the correction about tense. I guess I didn't understand the nature of the word "first". I thought that you could say, "George Washington is the first president of the United States." -- Chris Griswold 20:57, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I would like to ask you a favour. Could you please have a look at the talk page and history of the article on Gibraltar. Over the past few months a number of users, including myself, have been in conflict with user:Gibnews. We feel he has taken over the page as his pet project and has imposed a NPOV pro-Gibraltarian point of view. I feel his attitude and utter refusal to acheive any form of consensus is contrary to the rules of wikipedia. He accuses everyone of Spanish propaganda even on issues which are not directly related to the Anglo-Spanish dispute over Gibraltar and reverts pretty much everything which is not written by himself. Although I am not Spanish, I sometimes wonder if I may be slightly biased towards the Spanish perspective. I do not however believe that Gibraltar should be Spanish and I try to remain as neutral as possible. I do not have a problem with Gibnew's views. I simply do not approve of his way of discarding other people's sources, opinions etc... You should perhaps consult other users for their opinions such as user:ecemaml and user:asterion.
That is why I ask you, as an English-man, to mediate or atleast give your perspective on this issue.
Please look at the talk page over the past few months. Conflict with user Gibnews seems to go a long way back.
Thankyou very much for your help. We would really appreciate it. There is nothing worse that when articles are hijacked by individuals with political agendas. -- Burgas00 13:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi Hiding
Just wanted to compliment your recent well-sourced edits to the Dez Skinn article.
Cheers
Vizjim 22:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your interest. The portal was created because there are a vast number of LGBT-related articles on this project. The intent is to allow a "homepage" of sorts for those with an interest in LGBT articles. Wikipedia:Portal/Proposals is not a policy or a requirement - and approval there is not needed to form a portal. It was there to measure interest among potential editors. Davodd 17:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
You've edited our proposal WP:NNOT in a way that I think implies that undue weight can be attributed to articles specifically about a minority subject. Could you comment on that perhaps under the header "Undue weight of separate articles" on the talk page for that proposal? Thanks. Fresheneesz 18:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, the change I made to the Libel policy was a bad faith edit and it stayed there for a day on an official wikipedia policy page. It said:
"However, please don't let the law on libel of persons discourage you from deliberately creating totally false articles about facts and theories. In fact Wikipedia policy encourages you to do this. The important things are; That you can find some sources for the fantasy, and that you didn't personally invent the falsehood."
However my point wasn't to show the limits of Wikipedia - infact it's another Wikipedia rule that you shouldn't post to make a point. The thing is, that's what I do understand Wikipedia policy to say - There is no rule that you shouldn't post in bad faith. This is what I would like to see. There's a policy to assume good faith in the other person but none to have it yourself. Why is there no policy to 'have good faith'? -- Andrewrutherford 07:55, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I've noticed you take a active participation in the dealing and additions of policy pracitces. Regrading WP:MOS, I'm suggesting an note in the page of writing articles in the third person (using the player, the victim, one'. etc. ) as I've noticed its become a bit of problem lately that newer editors write prose as if in conversation with the reader ("you will get hurt", etc. ). Comments...? - Zero Talk 08:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
It's no big thing :) I agree the page needs some work, but it's a beheamoth as is and I don't think splitting it out some would be a bad idea but ... that never goes anywhere :P No offense was taken at all, and I think I got a better 'big view' of things thanks to your comments. -- Ipstenu ( talk| contribs) 16:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
You seem to know much more about the workings of Wikipedia than I. What is the best way for me to go about starting the WP:COMICS stylebook project as a collaborative project? If you even just want to direct me to appropriate Wikipedia resources, I would be appreciative. Thanks. -- Chris Griswold 21:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
There was absolutely no consensus for deletion of the page. IT is requested that the page be restored. Dilip rajeev 13:55, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
No, friend. It was no POV fork. It was central to the article. Research into Health benefits of Tai Chi would be central to a Tai Chi article. We were working on the page and the page was being improved continuously - I dont think it was fair to delete the page. Futher how can it be claimed "there was consensus to delte the page" arent you violating wiki policy there? It is sincerely requested that the page may please be restored. Dilip rajeev 14:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I am sure you dont mean to label my opinion part of some group whatever. That is you over-look all who said "Keep" and give them a label. What was POV about the research? You mean the researchers are lying? I request you to restore the page. Nobody ever wrote their POV in the article but facts/findings were reported as such. Dilip rajeev 14:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Friend, I really dont udnerstand what you are trying to say. Why would facts/findings of research conducted at one the nations not medical institutes be ignored? Any lawyer can "twists" policies to make a good case. Label the opinion of all editors who say its relevant as "original research".. the fork was a POV fork.. honestly none of it is a strong argument.. If reporting findings of a research is POV what is absence of POV? I request you, again, to please restore the article... Dilip rajeev 05:30, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
I chucked about your word of "consensus". You belittled all the "Keep" opinion as none. I am sure some of "Keep" opinions are only policy-related. Please read the deletion discussion carefully. Please reconsider your decision. Or at least you cannot say it is a "consensus". Fnhddzs 22:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Research into health benefits of Falun Gong. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. Fnhddzs 22:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Hiding,
I came across your sorta-recent Notability proposal, and in particular was interested in the idea brought up in passing of a "word shift" from notable to significant.
Back in November last year, I had been thinking along similar lines when I posted this on What Wikipedia is not, as a trial balloon:
The idea received a couple of positive responses, but wasn't pursued. I was considering revisiting the (admittedly radical) proposal for a replacement to "notability" when I came across the " Significance" link to your own efforts. During your proposal, the discussion of the shift to significance was ended by the question of "when is something significant, but not notable?" (and vice-versa). I do think there is a delineation that can be made: all things that are significant are notable, but not all notable things are significant. By that, (for example) a publication might get listed as a notable children's book, but not be significant enough to merit a Wikipedia entry; a contestant may be noted as a third place finisher in news about the national spelling bee, but that in and of it self isn't significant enough for an article. (However, this year, Saryn Hooks also became newsworthy after being reinstated due to a judge's error.) Often, it seems to me, that "notable" is used as a stand-in for "famous", when usage of such a term would be considered non-Wikipedia-correct "POV". By the same token, any bit of trivia on a subject could be called "notable", as it has been "noted" somewhere-- although it wouldn't be thought of as significant.
I'd be happy to hear your views.
Regards, -- Leflyman Talk 23:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I knew that I had forgotten to do something. :| I'm not sure if you've seen the entire drama between those two unfold, but if you have, what's your take on it? Tito xd( ?!?) 18:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Did you happen to notice how I moved to a different comics related issue and DA followed me there, starting and almost started an edit war by editing at the same time? I also proposed to stop the edit war and wait from concensus on the matter from the wikiproject that makes the guideline for articles of the sort.
He also emptied my talkpage and insulted me. Since my probation I've never gone to his page and the only attack that slipped from me was calling him nazi one time, (like soup nazi, nazi-like, not the serious kind). A mistake I soon acknoledged. I also showed titox how he followed me to 13 out of 14 different articles I edited on Monday. On some he did edits opposing mine, and almost all were from 20 minutes form and hour straight after mine.
I neither know his edits nor follow him. If DA monitires and undo most of my edits, and wikipedia seems to be aprooving it... should I do the same?
This banning... Does it mean that I should not go there and edit, or is it supposed to be automatic?
Also I think I spend way too much time on wikipedia, can I be blocked weekdays?-- T-man, the wise 20:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. -- DrBat 22:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your "concerned" post to my talk page. I see that T-Man can spend hours maligning me on his talk page, and this is perfectly acceptable to you as his mentor. Wonderful to know. I however spend all my time correcting his mistakes and errors, and preventing his excesses and frankly inane attemtps to create pointless cartoon wikis about TV shoes for 5-year olds, and no one does anything to support me. I complain about the defamation of my character on his page... have you looked at it lately? He obsesses about me... obsesses! And he is rude and namecalls anyone who doesn't share his unreasonable position on how articles should be written.
If you had actually checked my recent edits, you would see that I have moved on and grown up, so please don't talk to me about your mentee anymore and his debasement of the wikipedia project. He is a waste of my time and effort, as is this discussion. I leave that waste in your hands from now on. For the sake of wikipedia, however, I would hope that you have him remove the defamatory slander about me on his talk page. Dyslexic agnostic 06:06, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Hiding. I never asked, what am I blocked for? I just assumed I did something wrong, but I just realized I don't exactly know.
In my defense I could say I was followed to the last page in confict and therefore clashed (I was in the middle of it when DA went there, yadayada, y'know), but the proposal of stopping the edit war (I realized I that if I reverted a hundred times he'd do it a hundred and one times, but it's hard to determine whether you are in an edit war or not) to reach concensus from the wikiproject. So I was kinda bit more rational.
The other question is what to do when the block is over. DA already "followed" me there, knowing him he would also follow me if I go to other articles, but once he has done it and edited more than once he tends to get a little more "territorial" about it and his edits will tend to be bolder against mine. A guy in the wikipedia: wikiproject tv episodes, with apparent trustworthy authority said I can put the the wikiproject article the naming guideline as I suggested it, and I just did it yesterday, so I guess the BTAS episode subarticles can be named my way without the parenthesis clarification when there is no disambiguation needed... But I'm afraid the clashes will continue there and wherever I go, 5minutes to 12 hours after I edit. I don't know what to do. -- T-man, the wise 02:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
And Ialthou I don't think (or know if) you were appointed as my mentor. Contraire to what once wrongly stated from my gut, you have the ability to understand what I complan about. Further than that, you see the exact point in previous mistakes of mine when I went wrong. That's quite handy to avoid repeating those, so your mentoring is very welcomed.
I recently realized that avoiding adjetives it's not only a rule to write a good article, but a rule to succeed in talk pages and avoid offending people. I think the excess of adjetives I use is often interpreted as attacks by most people... Besides adjetives tend to cause reverse psicology. If I state something is black, people is going to question it and start checking if that's not actually really dark blue. But if I question its color, everybody is probably going to sceam black.-- T-man, the wise 03:15, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
About "I must advise you to seek consensus on issues and to respect that consensus, even when you disagree with it".
I feeled weird when that happen, and din't know what to do. There are higher rank articles (the wikiprojects,t hat's where I got the tables, tags and infoboxes from) about how to do what I was doing (impliying that articles per episode was already a common thing to create) and there are already thousends of those about "more important" and "less important" TV series, so I guessed consensus from that specific episode list page wasn't really needed. I felt with such justification consensus wasn't even require. Why doing consensus about something a hundreds of lists of episodes and hihger rank pages already decided? -- T-man, the wise 03:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, man, my bad. When I wrote the essay, I tried and tried but couldn't find who had come up with the idea originally. I'll put that in the essay right away. Matt Yeager ♫ ( Talk?)
I don't know if that can work; there are several characters whose real names aren't 'secret identities', or they just don't have a superhero/villain alias in the first place. -- DrBat 00:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into the copyright issue on Thor (Marvel Comics). Quick question: now that you've reverted it to before User:Soujaboy's copy/paste from marvel.com, is it all right if I remove the copyvio tag so we can begin updating/editting this article again? If it's still being investigated, that's fine and of course I won't touch the page until that's done, just curious. Again, thanks for looking into the problems there. - Markeer 16:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
although I do believe consensus isn't needed since such strong guidelines back me up, and I've stated so. I never went against it. But I pushed my boundaries as much as I could. I feel some editors have problems distinguishing between not agreeing (nd stating so) with consensus and acting against it.
Another confusing issue is that I always do whatever the consensus didn't cover. For example, when the consensus seemed to be turning against ALL the episode articles, I revers SOME episode articles. then the ones that are not stubs, and so on. Still I feel like some people think speaking agains the consensus is the same as acting against it.-- T-man, the wise 10:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I've been trying to informally mediate this one for a while now, since I don't have the personal investment that every other editor on the article does. I'm grateful for the assistance of another person who isn't involved on a personal and emotional level, but I have to ask why you decided to visit this article and attempt to help. Curiosity, really. We've already seen about four or five different admins wander by, try to help, get bitten (as you just did) and wander off again. I don't want you to be another casuality of the fervent belief that motivates the other editors. I appreciate your work too much ;-) CovenantD 12:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I am very sorry and apologiz/se if I have inadvertently offended you
here. I have left a reply to your post titled as above and hope you do not feel it assumes anything other than good faith.
Sincerely,
David Kernow 17:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Follow-up: Have just read and responded to your recent query here. Yours, David 17:30, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
If DA follows me around one more single time I'll need to re-open some tables (also cleaning it up so that the ecidence speack for itself). I'm also a little concern about some little issue. DA vandalized my page and his punishment was for only 24 hours, that's fine. But I strongly feel I've been blocked more time for smaller faults. This is very hard to explain, I find reasonable the way DA was punished (well, maybe a week would have been nicer), however his action against me was uncalled for, when the cause of some past blockings I had where a lighter effect of DA following me around. Before you editors strongly denied he was following me, and when he finally admited it then they denied to recognise it was unfear to me. Meanwhile it was kinda weird to see all the other blocked users were vandals and I was the only one banned for a "personal attack" (ignoring it was rather not that big deal, defensive and not offensive, and no striong word either). Man, I don't know what am I trying to tell you, I just thing other editors didn't se the situation as resonably as you do and I'm afraid that if I lose the table to monitor DA's stalking, the situation is going to turn bad again. I'd like to create a more objetive table, maybe develop an objetive registration system that could even help other stalked users in the future. A table where X user regiter Y user's ativities bothering him in a way admins can read it and clearly determine whether there is ir isn't talking. Ideally the description of the harassment acts should be brief, cool and not offensive to the user Y, the evidence speaking for itself, the stalkee only nominate acts as vandalims and after certain amount of evidence gathered, admins could judge for themself.-- T-man, the wise 06:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Just a note, during this edit whatever you used to archive screwed up one of my comments:
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If it is an AWB or has some sort of tidy in it, it should probably ignore whatever is in nowiki tags. -- Splarka ( rant) 22:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Not the ald tables, I'm talking different simpler, sharper, opinionless ones. Basically an action registry. In the past I had a hard time trying to get administrators even to beliveme I was being followed.
Let's say and average day, DA follows me to 3 diferent places and edits 9 times, the only editor ever, that actually have taken the time to explore edits in delatal and there fore would know how to spot harassment (also identifying my politic mistakes) besides you has been Josiah Rowe. Regular administrators just check an incidence page twice a week and think they know all the problem.
It is more posible that you're actually right and tables are useless, but how else could I feel safe? Remember also that as I started registing DA's edits over mine, more carefully, with less useless comments, he started to go crazy and even commited vandalism. Howcome it didn't happened when the tables were more "DA is this, DA is that, he is bad" babbling and went crazy as those started becoming all about evidence.
...Although I do think, that much info about a stalker makes me look a little like some nut. So a sandbox would probably be the solution.-- T-man, the wise 11:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, I changed the redirects from your user and talk pages; I hope you don't mind. As you may know, in general, redirects shouldn't cross namespaces. In addition, I think that redirecting your user page and especially your talk page could be quite confusing, especially if editors with to contact you. Thanks! — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
...but please do come back - you are certainly one of the non-crazies, and I always appreciate your insights on categorization, and general good sense. JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:24, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, then I'll trust you'll keep DA from focusing on me. Actually that's closer to what I'd really like: None of us having to focus on anybody in particular.-- T-man, the wise 16:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
This is just to notify you that this has been created: [12]. -- Kickstart70- T- C 02:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
T-Man acused me of lying here. please take the appropriate action. -- Dyslexic agnostic 19:18, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
It's just that I don't think I'm violating any consensus. But I'm not going to pretend I agree with such incoherence against something already decided in wikiprojects. Actually my changes were completely accordong to that concensus. Consensus was expand info in the list first, then move to subarticles. If Gillespee took of the expansions, it means there is enough material to create a subarticle. I think CovenantD and Grisworld have become completely subjetive. If they don't want articles per episode, they should take it to the tv episode wikiproject instead of picking on a small fried.
I'm keeping the he vandalism control, you can moderate the content, but I won't go through the situation of nobody believing me I have a wikistalker again. Having evidence took me out of that situation and there is no WP convention against it.-- T-man, the wise 16:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
You can cross the content bothering you, and I promess you I'll change or take it off. But I need that page. Meet me in the middle point, please. --
T-man, the wise 16:14, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I just took off all the propagandistic yaping and now it's just a list of links. About 4 tims smaller. Anything else you want me to change.-- T-man, the wise 18:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
You said: "Regarding your source for the info, I'm looking at the date on it and it's dated after Wikipedia started disseminating that information. Is it not possible Wikipedia is the source for that article's content, and that it is not a reliable source? I'm not going to blind revert, but I think it's a point we need to consider here."
Well, at least I'm now in the border. I used the be way across it, so that's kind of an improvement, isn't it? How ever I'll keep up the behavior improvement until the tone is perfect. Your observations have been of great help, thanks.
Please keep in mind that it's not easy to keep a good tone when other users are attaking and being subetice towards my edits even if those followed the consensus (I'm talking the consesnsus in that specific page, which was expand there first then create the subpages)-- T-man, the wise 22:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Please take it to mfd. It still talks all about me, completely unnecessary adn aggravating. If he removes it all, I will stay away from him, as long as he doesn't interfere with pages I work on regularly. -- Dyslexic agnostic 03:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Hiding - Enjoy your break. If/when you come back, I'd like to talk about the reasons you posted. No hurry. -- Rick Block ( talk) 23:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Not wanting to drag you out of your break...but since people are discussing you, I'll leave a link here until you have a chance to look: User talk:Jossi/AMA Kickstart70. Specifically, differing opinions of the reasons for your break. -- Kickstart70- T- C 03:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I have a question for you. I found what I consider a really credible source, but I have no idea how to attribute it. Basically, there is a reporter who sued/is suing the Topeka newspaper for the rights to publish his work on Fred Phelps, which was contracted by the paper. He sued for the rights to publish the article, and submitted it as evidence to the court. The article verified everything in that unreferenced statement, but I'm not sure if it can be cited since it wasn't published (he posted the entire complaint, which IS public record, along with the manuscript, online at [13]) but I don't know if that's okay or not. How frustrating! Any ideas? -- Chuchunezumi 04:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
You may be right, although I think that in general any cross-namespace redirect is confusing. Hmmm...I do understand about not wishing to be contacted, although it's a bit awkward to cut off communication on a collaborative project like this. Perhaps you could redirect your talk page to a temporary subpage so that people could leave you messages, but you wouldn't get the yellow notice? — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
OMG... now I get in trouble for legitimate fixes? Especially in For the Man Who Has Everything, a page I have done substantial work on before? And Dan Riba, for which T-man (wait for it) had THE WRONG NAME LISTED (namely Paul Dini)? So fixing Wikipedia by me is now annoying? And to top it off he creates Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Dyslexic agnostic just to annoy me, knowing full well this Gillespie is not a sockpuppet. When will this insanity end?! -- Dyslexic agnostic 01:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I really believe both are the same person. I swear.
The problem here is the use of the word attack. As DA, allegedly knows as a lawyer, exposing evidence does not constitute an attack. But calling somebody harmful, or following him does. My vandalism control page doesn't grow if he doesn't follow me. That's the deal. I't should not include verbal attacks (like D A stalked, obsessed, etc), only reports when he edit's something straight after me. For example, what the need for date wikis in the very same page I moved to to work, when thousands of (even comic related ones) lack of those? That's the kind of odd activity don't appreciate.
Also, the harmful attack. What's the definition of harmful? The page does not contain insults anymore. A vandal act for example, is harmful. I think DA thinks the page is harmful because it mirrors his own actions which, if you consider the later vandalism, the summary insults, the way he kept following me even after you told him not to, and the bad edits (like renaming articles against disambiguation and tv naming conventios); are very harmful... to me and himself. He is the one making the page bigger not me (actually I've been making it incredibly smaller later). It's kinda like the Dorian Gray Portrait to him. Or like Jekyll & Mr. Hide, Hide was the size of Jeckyll's sin, smaller at first, and then as time passes Hide got bigger and bigger.-- T-man, the wise 09:55, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I'm willing to negociate: If he stops following me around, I'll take that page off. I consider as "following me around": editing less than 3 days or 3 editors after my last edit. As soon as he follows me in such manner, more than 3 times or 4 separated out of 10 times, the page is back. I don't want him in my life. I hate him, I truly do, but if he stops following I'll stop compiling. I don't want to be his "team" or his "budd". I want to read from him as often as I happen to read from any normal user I know. -- T-man, the wise 22:27, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Falun Gong, Research into Health Benefits. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review.
Dear Sir,
The reason we chose to have a seperate page for Falun Gong, Research into Health Benefits was that the agreed upon framework for the main page required that only intros to subsections be left on the main page while each sub-section carried a daughter page.
It is requested that he page may please be undeleted.
Dilip rajeev 06:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
We were working on an article and it is by no means a perfect one.. It is requested that more time be given for us to work on the structure and sub-pages rather than deleting the page.
How could be a research article be a "POV"? The fork Criticism and controversies about Falun Gong is mostly just propoganda material from the CCP shouldnt that page also be deleted then?
If you insist that we must not have such a sub-page, could you help me add the relevant content to the main page? Thankyou.
Hi there, Hiding. Would you please take a look at User talk:Lesfer#Alex Ross and User talk:Majestic Lizard#Re:Alex Ross? Please, explain the matter to user Majestic Lizard. Regards — Lesfer (t/ c/ @) 23:06, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey. Remember me? ACS. Well, first off, WB, Hiding. I know you took a break a little while back. Anyway, I was hoping you could help me handle a little situation at The Class. Someone wants to add a "behind the scenes" section. Now, I've tried to remove it, stating why in the edit summary. I've tried to discuss it on the TP. Now...I'm just not sure. Advice? ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 04:28, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I moved all of the articles to their proper locations; I was surprised by how easy it was. I was unable, unfortunately, to move five articles. I listed them at Requested Moves, but the page has a backlog, and these are unopposed, so I thought I would ask if you could move them. They are:
I appreciate your interest in the matter. I will be taking a break now. In a few days, I will be back and I can figure out the organization of the project you suggested. It will be nice to focus on one thing.-- Chris Griswold 09:06, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, I'm slowly easing myself back in, but thanks for the comments. Sorry to drift out of the debate we were having, I pretty much agree with your thoughts on article stability and the governing of wikipedia. That said, what troubles me is that whilst WP:NPOV, WP:V, and WP:NOR are agreed as the basic immutables by consensus, the interpretation of them is open to such huge debate it seems like there is no consensus. They've become bloated and almost like religious tracts. The basic immutable seems to be that every article must reference a secondary source that has been subject to review by an editor or peers, and summarise that information as presented there-in. That would seem to be a statement worth declaring as the basic principle. Hiding Talk 11:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, I suppose better late than never, I'd like to apologize for the headaches I caused you a while back. I was blatantly inserting link spam and I shouldn't have been, and you were doing the right thing by calling me out on it. I have removed all of the offending copyright infringing content in my site, with a complete overhaul and name change too :-) No strips are there anymore, nor is The Yukon Song. So anyway, I hope I hadn't contributed to much to your wikistress, and I apologize. -
Mjg0503
03:35, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey. Ace again. I was wonderong...well...hoping you help me with an image situation. Image:HotTopicLogo.gif, to be specific. Apparently, some users insist on uploading a image of the word "Poseur" in stylized text to replace the real logo. I was thinking the proper image could somehow be restored and then protected. I know it's a lot to ask, but this is like mucho persistant vandalism. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 07:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Hiding, Do you recall a conversation that Rick Block, you and I had several months ago about creating a flickr like tagging system to enable category intersections? Rick and I have been working up a proposal to do just that. We'd appreciate your feed-back. So come take a look. The proposal is here. -- Samuel Wantman 08:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment regarding mention of the term "sh**g*z*"(censored in the name of morale & good taste) on the My Bloody Valentine page. I've been editing this page a number of time over the months, for the obvious reason that a term as shallow and as meaningless as that has no true impact and doesn't even begin to accurately describe this band. To simply describe them "sh**g*z*", a quite frankly rubbish term coined by the narrow minded music press (to describe the way they look at their shoes when they play? what?), is inaccurate and unprofessional, and I don't feel it has any place on the page. And anyway, you'll notice that I only removed it on the formal bits describing My Bloody Valentine as a musical band and as a genre name, I left the description in regarding the term as applied to the band by the press, fans, other syncophants, etc. Although I plan on removing this when I can find an alternative with which to replace it. Juvenile terms like that have no place on Wikipedia, and I consider it vandalism when I see it included like its a serious musical term (such as rock 'n roll, metal, pop, etc.)
Thanks for your action on this article. I removed the information from Spider-Woman and noted it on the talk page. -- Newt ΨΦ 20:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
How did you get so good and knowledgeable about Wikipedia? -- Chris Griswold ( ☏) 14:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey Hiding, Thanks for redirecting WP:EPISODE to WP:NOT. However, I don't think it is appropriate. I have tried to delete episode summaries because of WP:NOT point 7 and by saying they ignore WP:V. However, it never works because they are too popular to be deleted. I have rverted them; If youw ant to talk about it we can start an MFD. -- Chris chat edits essays 16:11, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
This article was deleted, would it be possible to get the content of the article, as it was prior to deletion? You could copy it to a subpage in my userspace or email to me at [email protected] if the content is unsuitable.
I'd really appreciate this, if you have the time. Thanks very much. User:Pedant 20:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
...but thanks for the great work and for hanging in there. Having to police things like a "Fictional blonds" category isn't fun, but rest assured many of us regular comics editors appreciate your vigilance A LOT. Thank you, man -- Tenebrae 04:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I should be able to get my bot to clear out articles' references to categories in Category:Protected deleted categories without too much trouble. I'll work on it when I get a moment (which may not be this week). Regards, RobertG ♬ talk 08:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks :) we can always argue some more, whenever you like. >Radiant< 21:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
You made a comment on my talk page. What's that about?-- The Judge 12:20, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I'm sorry I haven't been available to comment on the improvements these last days. My computer just went dead and I have to upgrade it in order to get on the internet. I will probably first be available on Monday.
I can give you some brief pointers besides what I already wrote in the nomination.
Anyway, you have made good progress. I will make a more detailed comment next week. -- Maitch 15:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree with all three points, although at the minute I'm still addressing other areas and the web citation is the lowest on my priority. I would hope an article wouldn't have FA status stripped on that concern, since anyone can step in and help there. Hiding Talk 17:12, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
You seem to be sure of what you did on Supergirl. What's the actual justification?-- The Judge 04:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
{{Infobox DCAU character | name = The Judge | image = [[Image:Example.png|250px]] | shows = Judge: The Animated Series <br /> The New Judge Adventures <br /> Judge League Unlimited | first = On Judge wings | last = Judge gave you Rock and Roll | nickname = J-boy | alias = Diego Lavalle Molina | powers = Very judgemental | species = Lawyer | gender = Please... sorry I thought she asked me sex | age = 20 | born = 05/07/1986 | occupation = Editor | alliances = Wikipedia | episode = 433 | portrayer = Diego Conroy | creator = Diego Kane | list = List of kickass m*th*rf*ck*rs }}
I redesigned the infobox to make it look rather like a complementary infobox than another superherobox. I was never sure about including the characteristics, since in most case those tend to stay the same. Taking those off, might be good in order to make the infobox look complementary. The only problem is that there are several cases in withc te statistics change... Maybe if I change the "Characteristics" header to "changed characteristics".
I didd further modifications:
...Now, I say some infoboxes called "navegation infoboxes". which hide content unless you click it. Maybe the differen characteristics hwader should work like that, hidding info.-- The Judge 04:59, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
I just checked what you did on Clock king... Why? You didn't even bother to use the talk page. That's vandalism. I'm *not* going to call an admisnistrator or write in the notice board, but please fix it.-- The Judge 05:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
It, still not good enough, you choped off big amounts of info on Clock King and only left summaries like "Clean-up". I'm still mad at you, that was very unrespectful, fix it or I'll call an admin.-- The Judge 21:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia_talk:Cite_sources/archive10#Intermediate_sources Andries 18:51, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
There are several people having the exact same problem with the exact same user. And they liked my comment, I don't see what's our problem. Who are you to talk, anyway? You've done nothing but attack me since you poped up in my page (even though you claimed to be friendly), and I resent that. And the warning is still on, if you don't fix the info you chopped off in Clock King soon I'll be callin an admin. user-- The Judge 10:16, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Several people have the same problem with CovenantD. And I didn't even read more than the fiveth part of his talk page. I can't believe you support him. He is making wikipedia unpleasant for several people. I only helped the users complaining and himself realise there are several of us in the same situation. And I'm willing to help whoever has a problem with this user (unless of course CovenantD is right, case in which I'd try to help the other editor understand it). If CovenantD becomes more respectful, at least with my edits, I'll stop that. Even though I shouldn't because he should be respectful not only with me, but with everybody complaining about him in his talk page. specially since, so far I've only seen him deleting hours of work, just like you.
And so that you know, that Chris guy is doing the same, offering to support CovenantD deletionism. I think they could be one of those puppets.
However, I don't like you, please avoid contact. I can't respect somebody with so much disrespect for hours good work from several users (you also erased prose). I can't believe you're an administrator user. I'm still reporting you if you don't conciliate things in the talk page in question. I don't care if youre the King of England-- The Judge 21:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
i am sushant gupta. Mbimmler abused me on my userpage. thanks Sushant gupta 11:16, 10 September 2006 (UTC)sushant gupta
Hi, I noticed that a few months ago you "made" Wikipedia:Notability_(companies_and_corporations) a guideline. I was wondering if that counts as an official guideline, or is that in name only. I had thought that for something to be an official guideline, it needs some sort of official vote. Is this not true? Fresheneesz 17:55, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
The way he writes, his edits, his behavior towards other editors... I wonder if he's not (at least) linked to a problematic six-month-banned user. — Lesfer (t/ c/ @) 16:20, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
And it's just been confirmed, as well as Shredder-man [15]. Can you, using the admin mop, go about deleting all the crap that he's created since his return? CovenantD 02:47, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
He's created some articles as well:
Some of these using his Shredder-man persona. What to do? Delete them all just like those three templates? — Lesfer (t/ c/ @) 17:01, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
You are one of the best editors working on comics-related articles on Wikipedia. I'd like to inite you to join the new WikiProject I've started: WikiProject Comics Cleanup. Similarly to how the WP:CMC collaboration works to elevate articles to Featured Article status, the primary goal of this new project is to coordinate group cleanup efforts on articles, copy editing, condensing, and providing citations where needed. The secondary goal is to remind good editors that there are other good editors who have the same goals.
This will also help prepare articles for Wikipedia 1.0 assessment, a project I am currently working on pulling together for WP:CMC. I'd really appreciate your membership, but I do understand if you find yourself to be too busy to participate. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 18:58, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
If this category has been speedy deleted, won't administators who watch the categories for discussion depopulate it? -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 18:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
No problem looking over the page. FAR is just small enough we can give each a little TLC... There's a couple more on-the-fence comments I'm sure you'll notice in the review, which you may want to take care of. Marskell 13:40, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
You recently said that CFD is broken. Could you please elaborate? It may be fixable. I've got some duct tape right here. >Radiant< 15:48, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
You asked me how I'm getting on with making my bot patrolling Protected deleted categories. At the moment RobotG is broken, because of the recent major change to the category listing (the tree format): I am of course working on fixing that first without having as much time to devote to it as I'd like. When RobotG is back to health I will try and code up the feature you requested as promised. Regards, RobertG ♬ talk 09:09, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Something has been nagging at me since T-Man was caught with two sock puppets. Please take a look at T-ManWiki ( talk · contribs). Is this worth a checkuser? -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 02:21, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
What should we do about Skope ( talk · contribs)? He was told not to make articles for individual Star Wars issues, but he continues to do so. There are so many articles to merge because of him, and some of them aren't even out yet. He just makes less-than-stubs that, until he can add more information, are all duplicate regurgitations of press releases. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 03:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I've created Wikipedia:Notability (comedy) to help editors in deciding the notability of comedy- and humor-related articles. You are an editor whom I respect and admire. I would appreciate any commentary you may be able to provide to help hammer it into shape. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 09:08, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for making the adjustment; the project will work much better this way. I read a discussion between Jimbo Whales and a guy from Britannica on WSJ.com, and it got me thinking again about the strength of Wikipedia's numbers. If new people work with more experienced people, they can learn how better to edit. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 23:27, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Hiding, and thanks for your comments at WP:EL. I am willing to listed to comments that are both for and against me, to see what I can do to reach a reasonable consensus.
Regarding the bit you struck out, you made a very valid point. I did prompt a pointless, stupid and embarrassing edit war. Obviously at the time I was a total newb without a clue that obviously hadn't read this, this, or this. I want to make it very clear that I am truly sincere when I say that I wish the whole thing never happened and that I was entirely to blame. Since the dispute I have removed all offending material that I could find on my site, and have recently made it over again from scratch. If you see anything there that is still offending copyright, please let me know and I will remove it. I have no intention or desire to violate any copyright with my site, and that's not just because I want a link from Wikipedia. I get tons more from other sources than I do from WP. The reason for creating my site was simple: I really enjoy Calvin and Hobbes, and I wanted to create a place on the web for fans to enjoy, as well as for newcomers to get aquianted with the strip.
I want to try to see if we can simply put the whole dispute behind us. You did come off as a bit rude, and hasty to me, but I think that much of that was caused by ignorance and rudeness on my part.
The main reason I brought up this discussion was not prompted by linking to my site, but rather on linking to other Calvin and Hobbes fan sites that are in the article. There are several very useful links there that would technically not be allowed by the current system, because it only allows for linking to one fan site. However, there is more than one site that merits linking, and I don't think that they (or fan sites in general) should be excluded on these grounds. This is not just for my selfish reasons either, it is for the good of the entire project. There is no reason for Wikipedia to be arrogant and refuse to link to fan sites on the grounds that "Wikipedia is not a web directory". This is true, but there is no harm in having a few external links at the the of a well-written article. Please note as well, that in cases where there are many (I'd say more than five) quality fan sites to link to, that the propsed change states that linking instead in that case to a Open Directory Project category (or, if there is none, some other directory such as Yahoo!) would be the best solution.
Anyway, I hope that you can offer some suggestions on what you would prefer me to do, and what to change about the proposal to make it reasonable to you. I know that you want to stick to your guns and not links to fan sites period, but a pretty healthy majority (but mind you, not a consensus yet) think that the proposal on the table is a good solution. I really believe that if we are all willing to compromise a bit, we'll come to a reasonable consensus. Thanks. - Mike 00:17, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing it out; I've replied there. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 23:41, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Hiding. I see you're staying busy!
I hate to add to your burden, and am only doing it after another admin who wanted to help said he didn't know enough after comics. He suggested I got the Admin noticeaboard, but before doing that and possibly running into the same problem, I was hoping you might take a look. It involves the ever-problematic Thor (Marvel Comics). (God — so to speak — who would have thought such a low-selling, twice-canceled character had such fervent fans.)
User:Asgardian continues to make trivial and often misspelled and stylistically wrong, and grammatically poor edits to Thor that three other editors ( User:CovenantD, User:Jamdav86 and myself) keep removing, to no avail. See this example. He won't work with the community, won't offer compromise solutions, and writes long, defensive diatribes at Talk:Thor (Marvel Comics). It's not vandalism per se, I don't believe, but edits clearly against consensus. Any advice? -- Tenebrae 15:39, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Please allow time for more discssion with regard for your proposed changes. David.Kane 13:21, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, I must disagree with the way you went about doing things as noted in your second comment on David's talk page. Notice that the rest of us brought up a topic on the talk page before making significant changes to the guide, whereas you simply came in and made your changes, and then brought them up on the talk page. When David then reverted your edits that had been made without disucssion, you commented "feel free to disucss changes, but don't revert them without discussion." Am I missing something here? Because I was under the impression it was the other way around. - Mike 19:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, I think I'm finished with the integration. Check it out and see what you think. I gave a quick explanation of changes at this talk page. - jc37 20:16, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I just saw that you deleted a mainspace article by this name. The sole contributor to this article was User:Rakaboshi. It was an empty page, and I do not contend that it should not have been deleted. But, the thing is that you did not inform the newbie user about its deletion. Many of potential editors may be deterred by that. I suggest that you write up some kind of note on this particular user's page, about the page he created and why it was deleted. Please reply here if you want to, I am watching this page Regards, — Nearly Headless Nick {L} 12:27, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Hullo. I'm trying to trim the fat from Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Giano/Workshop to make it remotely usable. I've copied a version to User:Aaron Brenneman/Scratch/Sandbox2. I'm currently cutting out side issues etc, but the bigger task will be the summarising/condensing of things that do need inclusion. I could use some help, even if it's just in the form of "edit so-and-so was bad, leave in foo and take out bar." - brenneman {L} 00:21, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
To hope that everyone could work together in finding solutions to the problems in this RfA, editing collaborativly. I'm over that, but when I'm on the committee, it will be better.
Regardless, I hate to read your last few posts, as you sound dispirited. Yes, this arbitration is a disaster. Yes, there are quite a few dogdy practices laid bare without solutions evident. But buck up little camper, we'll get it right eventually. Wikipedia, I mean, even I don't still have much hope for this arbitration.
brenneman {L} 13:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
1.) First, thank you for the comment. I saw you were somewhat buried in
other matters. But even so, no need to apologise, as I said, I had no expectations : )
For further info see:
Kbdank's talk page;
Wryspy's talk page;
my talk page And for "after comments":
David D.'s talk page and my
RfA page itself (in particular, my "last day comments at the top).
And I appreciate the nomination offer. see David D.'s talk page for my comment on that. (Sorry about all the "see also"s, but it sounds better to not try to re type out another essay : )
2.) Please also check out the discussion on the WP:UCFD talk page (observations).
3.) Now that it's been "stable" for awhile, I think I'd like to start working on Hal Jordan as that's one of the requests on WP:CMC. Any thoughts? - jc37 21:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi there, Hiding. Would you mind checking what the heck is this ?? — Lesfer (t/ c/ @) 03:01, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I just had to be sure you weren't playing favorites. Then I deleted it. Brian Boru is awesome 15:56, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, if you would please advise editor Lesfer to refrain from personal attacks, specifically (Don't be such a cry baby, kid. Grow up.), and (really, how old are you? 10?). There is a semantic difference in how Lesfer and myself view the categories as they are assigned to specific individuals with two aliases. Lesfer had stated that I have "a personal grudge against me", however it is Lesfer himself that uses a derogatory tone towards each of my contributions and has failed to WP:AGF on my behalf. Thank you for your time. NetK 23:53, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I've just ran once over WP:Notability (People) . There's a thread at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people)#Medium_sized_clean-up if you'd like to partake. Not a shake-up, just a tidy-up. - brenneman {L} 11:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Hiding. As this whole thing begun because of this, I hope you tell him how uncivil false accusations of vandalism are. Cheers — Lesfer (t/ c/ @) 14:57, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, touche regarding your comments on the incident report. The matter has been handled and we'll work from this point forward. I see consensus reached relating to Clark Kent and Nuklon, and look forward to other articles specifically being mentioned as to consensus regarding categorization. Please see my analysis on the Atom article included on the Projects page relating to Suicide Squad. Thx. NetK 18:56, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Hiding: I have proposed Peanuts as a possible collaboration of the month at WP:COMICS. I merged your old nomination into the new one, was that the correct way to re-nominate it? I'm new to the WikiProject. Here's hoping it passes. Needs a lot of work and references. - Mike | trick or treat 23:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
What's supposed to happen with this? I mean, you know me, I'd just empty it. Merge it where? Do we really need to categorise fictional characters by their abilities? Hiding Talk 16:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I posted the following to the WikiProject talk page. It has the necessary links. But to summarise, we need to merge the category into subcats of category:Fictional characters by superhuman power, and listify the actual "elementals" (not including the element manipulaters/generaters). - jc37 16:33, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Per this now closed CfD/R, category:Fictional elementals needs to be manually recategorised. (See discussion here.) Any and all help would be appreciated. - jc37 18:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I made the request. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 17:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
So, I guess it's cleanup time again. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 18:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi there. After being told that User:201 is a sockpuppet, I investigated further and I see you implemented these two indef blocks: [17] and [18], but on reading the ArbCom case at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Dyslexic Agnostic, I saw that the Logs and Bans bit at the bottom hasn't been updated to include the indef block. HTH. Carcharoth 21:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Do you consider this to be a perosnal attack?I don't believe it is but CovenantD thinks it is.
Categories Per cfd notice board do not delete categories until voting is done. Then do what you like!!What's with the hate!!Why all this DC Comics tv series in the deletion categories crap.Brian Boru is awesome 22:18, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't respond well to personal attacks. Would you like to try again? CovenantD 22:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC) It's not a personal attack. Per cfd notice board do not delete while discussion is in progress. And besides I never attacked you.How was mine a personal attack besides?I never even commented on you just the categories. Lighten, up. Brian Boru is awesome 22:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
"What's with the hate!!" is an assumption and an attack on my motives. CovenantD 22:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC) Retrieved from " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CovenantD"
Hiding,
I agree conversation would be advantegeous. I noticed Lesfer has made a series of such moves of which you have not commented on, and I simply did the same. If we are to treat each Flash as different, we should treat each Robin and Superman as different by also providing them their own article. DC Comics lists them separately, why are we different?
You had mentioned two guidelines which I was violating. I'm sorry but I fail to see a precise example of this relating to the free license, I've extracted material to produce adjacent articles but I don't believe I disgarded any contributions from fellow users. However I will review the guidelines in more depth, as they are always beneficial to incorporate into our contributions.
If there have been any violations, please WP:AGF that I was unaware of the precise mechanics involved in these guidelines as it applies to recent edits.
Additionally, you are asking that we handle each article as a separate case, however you have previously sighted the "No Rules" guideline, yet by saying we should treat each article as separate is...in fact...a rule in and of itself. If they are to be handled as exceptions, then why have a comicbook project to lend suggestions across the board?
That said, I agree that more conversation should be involved, and would ask you also invite Lesfer and others who have also follow the same naming convention I have utilized into the dialogue. Thank you for your time.
Hey Hiding User:Netkinetic is still making Robin (Richard Grayson). He might be trying to fix it, but he's making it worse. Brian Boru is awesome 18:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I'll admit, that was a poor reason for deletion. Though, in my own defense, I honestly was having trouble figuring out what the article was about, and I was right, it didn't belong. DesertSky85451 16:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
(Archival Note: The following several discussions took place on jc37's (my) talk page, Hiding's talk page, and the talk page of the "new" - now deleted/redlinked - page described below. - jc37 19:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC))
Moved several related discussions to Wikipedia:WikiProject comics/Disambiguation discussion. (Feel free to revert if you wish.) - jc37 19:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Did you ask Netkinetic before you started cutting stuff off of his user page? Hiding Talk 19:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Offended? no. Surprised at the apparent vehemence of the response would probably be more accurate. Though if I am mis-reading, my apologies, in turn.
I meant the quote in the latter fashion, in response to your statement of "just as bad". (Which I thought I had made clear. Perhaps not.)
As for user pages, the "feel free to revert" means exactly that. I wonder if you were being helpful in doing all the reversions yourself? Possibly. Thuogh I think that will be up to each user. I honestly have no further opinion on it.
As for your name, I presume you're talking about the typo of B/b ? I fixed it as a typo (I'm not certain, but I think even before I saw your comment about it. I could be wrong though). In any case, if such a typo has garnered any ill-feeling or ill-will on your part, I wholly do of course apologise, as of course, it was unintentional. Though I have to say that it's not unlikely I may typo as such in the future, and if so, please take it in that sense, rather than in some fashion in which you may deem that it should require an apology.
To be rather honest, I've never seen you like this, even when dealing with some of the situations I copied on that page. So at this point, I think I'm going to take it all with a grain of salt, and hope that whatever is troubling you will be resolved in a positive way for you forthwith : ) - jc37 20:41, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
The following two sub-sections are from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject comics/Disambiguation discussion:
I combined the talk page entries on the main side of this page in order to try to collate all the discussion that's been going on. As anyone can tell, a fair amount of zealousness, and borderline incivility has been occurring. I think we all need a sit down with a nice cup of tea, before this goes "too far", and/or "someone" gets blocked over this.
One key principle that I hope comes out of this, beyond the current discussions (which may be fruitful, and I hope they continue) is what to do about the Pre-Crisis DC characters: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Robin, Huntress, Green Arrow, and Speedy. This has been further confused by Infinite Crisis, and those characters' re-appearance.
For now, I'd like to ask a moratorium on creating/moving articles related to this, for at least 48 hours. I think Wikipedia will survive in the meantime : )
Looking forward to the discussions. - jc37 19:41, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Half this stuff appears irrelevant, and the issue is currently being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#Renaming articles to 'Hero (alter ego)'. I'd advise that we continue discussing it there. This page seems to be focussing on issues regarding users, not the content. Hiding Talk 19:49, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Except that it all related to the discussion in question. And I would think transparency is best. this diff was what suggested to me that we are coming close to a point of "back room" finger pointing, and not transparent discussion. DO as you will... I just would like to see this resolved positively rather than the apparent current trend. - jc37 19:55, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I've deleted the sub-page, I was going to ask you if you wanted to go down that route. If you want that stuff archived in my talk, I don't care either way.
Regards the issues still left, um. I've stated it quite a few times now and you constantly seem to either ignore it, or not appreciate it, which is fair enough, maybe I'm not communicating it well. I'll have one last try.
I saw you remove items from Netk's talk page, and found this puzzling. I then asked you if you had asked his permission to do so. Now, from my end, rather than discuss that or pause and think, you went ahead and removed stuff from my talk page. Now, my chain of thought is this: if someone is asking me why I removed stuff from someone else's talk page, and if I had permission, I wouldn't go and remove stuff from their talk page. I'd sense there was an issue, and I'd talk it through. I'd work out that removing stuff from this user's talk page, after he had raised a query about a similar action elsewhere, might not be best prudent. That you constantly failed to address this point but rather pressed on in a matter that was pretty much resolved anyway then escalated the situation on my end. You constantly disregarded my point and talked over the top of me to the point that there was no point discussing the issue any more.
I hope that clarifies things from my end, and maybe now you can understand why I was so frustrated.
We don't generally edit other people's user pages in such a manner without checking first,
and whilst not all users are overly bothered, some are. I guess I'm one. I tried to raise concerns, but you seemed to brush them aside,
and appeared to paint my actions as perhaps unhelpful. That didn't appear to me to be politic, since it's not clear your actions were helpful.
People had been coming to me with issues, I had been trying to sort them as even handedly as possible. If you had a problem with my handling, I would have appreciated a note.
Now, you stated that you responded on my talk page, but you didn't. Not at my end. You carried on with what you were doing, rather than pause for thought.
And every comment you made after that looked to me like you were riding roughshod over me.
I get what you were trying to do, but that doesn't mean you can ignore people's concerns.
You don't seem to acknowledge that you were not best placed to remove stuff from my talk page that did not involve you.
The standard way of doing these things is by inviting people to a central area. Let the discussion grow organically. Provide diffs if you like. You can move an issue to a sub-page, yes I have seen that done before,
and I have to admit I found your tone patronising there,
but convention is that you check with someone before you edit their user pages.
You can reply here, I'm watching this page.
I hope I've managed to convey things from my end, and I sincerely hope you can understand them. To be honest, as far as I'm concerned the issue is over and done with, but I pretty much saw the issue as done with before your actions. Whether that was the case I guess we'll never know, but what's done is done. Best to just shake hands and move on. Hiding Talk 10:53, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I have, up until now, always felt that you were an editor who's actions were typically rather thought-filled, and even tempered. I have been in disbelief, shocked, dismayed, flabbergasted, stunned, surpised, and honestly feeling a bit hurt and insulted myself by this discussion. - jc37 21:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
You offer to "shake hands" and "move on". As I said in my last edit summary to your talk page, the ball's in your court, so if that is what you wish, that is perfectly ok with me. If you continue the discussion, I'll respond, if you don't wish to, I'll respect that. If you wish this remainder of the discussion removed from sight, I'll do so, else I'll likely leave it here until I feel that my talk page has become too long. The choices are yours. - jc37 21:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I keep thinking about your comment that you felt I didn't want to discuss with you. So I've attempting to build a timeline. I hope it helps.
Note that from 19:05 - 19:30 these are all my contributions (though as I am not an admin, I no longer have the edit history from the deleted page). I have to say, I don't remember seeing the yellow bar (talk page notice) for your first comment, so I'm not sure at what point I saw your notice. I had quite a few windows open, and I was doing a lot of switching back and forth.
Your first comment:
After that:
I note that your next comment was at 19:32. That was apparently a rather busy minute, since as I look at that diff, my response to you was already on your talk page.
From there, I guess the attempts at discussion began. (With my next contribution, also being my next response to you, at 20:13: [31]).
Though I seem to remember having this weird 2 page discussion with you, simultaneously on the now-deleted page, and your talk page.
I hope this helps clarify. - jc37 10:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm having trouble added this AfD to today's list. Can I get a little help? DesertSky85451 19:52, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Hiding you want to know my real name??? Brian Boru is awesome 21:50, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I keep adding Wikipedia:articles for deletion/List of Baby Blues books to the afd list, but every time it never shows up on the actual page. Can you please try to add it to the October 11, 2006 log?-- B&W Anime Fan 12:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I have begun to put together a proposal for Wikitrivia, and I would appreciate any input you can give me. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 14:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
"I just realized that I added to the confusion by moving Wally West (Flash) (one of NetK's moves) to Flash (Wally West) when it should have been moved back to Wally West, since he's had more than one code name. Can an admin take care of this? Thanks! CovenantD 00:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC)"
Would you fix, it, Hiding? — Lesfer (t/ c/ @) 21:20, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
User:Hiding/X1. Oh, wow! Love it. I have a Tintin/Herge biography book squirelled away somewhere. I guess you might have it as well, but if not, could I be of help? I've nosed around the Tintin pages, and was stunned to find Tintin in Thailand and the other parodies, as well as the description of the anarchist book where 'Tintin' and 'Haddock' work to topple the British government. I've read all the books, and the Jo, Zette and Jocko books, been to the Tintin museum in Brussels (well, technically the The Belgian Center For Comic Strips), and got the T-shirts (lots of them)! :-) Carcharoth 23:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, I'm going to answer on the ATT talk page just so that everything is together. SlimVirgin (talk) 10:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, thanks for your support on my request for adminship.
The final outcome was a robust 62/1/1, so I am now an administrator. If you ever have any questions about my actions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
What counts as a minor edit? 'Cause I clicked on it to make sure those were mine. Brian Boru is awesome 14:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it literally means "daughter corporation", hence subsidiary. Yours, >Radiant< 14:47, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, just a note to remind you that it's expected to put a comment warning people off from bad behaviour on their talk pages, not just on an article talk page. (Some of the later steps off remidies require this to have happened.) -- Barberio 13:19, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Hiding. Being that you were one of the first people that I encountered on Wikipedia (and the first I had an editing dispute with) I was wondering if you'd be willing to take the time to leave me feedback (good or bad) on my editor review. I recently had a failed RfA (mostly on experience concerns) and another admin has offered to nominate me the next time I want to give it a try. I would be very grateful for your opinions on how I have improved my editing and what I still need to improve on to be able to make it through an RfA successfully. Thanks. - Mike | Talk 22:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Haha, Ok I'll leave it up there. You got there first, anyhow :-). Just felt the need to add Calvin there as IMO it's the best comics article I've seen. - Mike | Trick or Treat 00:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Any reason this is protected? I need to make some edits to it -- namely, linking to our specific assesment scale and adding the importance scale in. - Mike | Trick or Treat 19:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Are you planning on making it smaller, because right now it is huge. Some ideas for this can be found at {{ ME-project}} ("hidden" bar) or {{ Film}} (just smaller). It is also miss-aligned, I don't know how to fix that. Cbrown1023 02:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I saw you protected Roly Poly today. I was thinking of writing up a article on the Roly Poly Sandwich Shop's. And I was wondering if I should write a stub in my user space then ask you to unprotect the page or can any admin do that? Whisp e ring 18:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
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For attempting to help resolve a lengthy and often confusing communication breakdown, and as a nudge, in the hope that you might continue to help in other such instances on Wikipedia : ) - jc37 19:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC) |
{{ speechless}} Hiding Talk 20:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
How can I edit your "Comics by region" template?? I want to add one country in there.-- Check two you 26 October 2006
I see you dropped the idea for using publication as a phrase. Are we still using comics in the first instance then? To be honest I quite liked using publication. Hiding Talk 20:18, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
FYI: List of comics spin-offs. - jc37 23:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Here's a good test case for WP:NCC:
See the history of: Danny Phantom (character).
Since I am not an admin, and couldn't delete redirect pages, I chose to:
However, based on the various naming conventions under television and comics ("hero shows" apparently default to WP:NCC usage), what probably should have happened:
I don't think that there is enough in the Danny Phantom character article for the creation of a Danny Fenton character article at this time.
Your input is welcome. - jc37 01:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Also, what's your opinion on an article name like: Samantha "Sam" Manson? - jc37 12:02, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
<re-indent> You said, "feel free to let me know if you feel I'm incorrect", so I said "it's not that I think you're wrong". The reason I ask about controversy is because if you believe it will be controversial then it has to be listed at Wikipedia:Requested moves. So if you're sure Samantha "Sam" Manson should be at Sam Manson, then I can move that. Would Jazz need admin assistance? Where would it move to? Hiding Talk 13:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
On the Danny Phantom issue, why wouldn't Danny Phantom (character) be at Danny Fenton? If the show is titled Danny Phantom, makes sense to put the show there, and if the character is Danny Fenton, then we don't have to disambiguate, and if we don't, we shouldn't. Hiding Talk 13:08, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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Not for any particular action -- and I have to say I disagree with many of yours -- but for sheer, bulldog willingness to get in there day after day and chew the policy bone. John Reid 06:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC) |
{{ speechless}} Hiding Talk 13:50, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I think, since we have an updated naming convention, and more than a few pages may need to be moved, at least temporarily we should have Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Requested moves. The way that Wikipedia:Requested moves seems to do it, it to have Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current transcluded onto it. "Current" being the actual requests. Perhaps we should clarify that. So for us that would be: Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Requested moves/Current requests.
This should proactively deal with potential "move wars" in a more process-related, and civil way. (And prevents us from unnecesarily bloating the "main" requested moves page, though we should place a link on it, obviously.)
What do you think? - jc37 23:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Hiding, I do agree that sources have to be evaluated in context to an extent, but I'd need a context myself before saying more than that. As for Usenet, it wouldn't be a reliable source for anything but itself, and not for biographical information. The danger with evaluating sources too much is that we don't want people rejecting reliable sources simply because they disagree with them. I tend to think if the source is published by a reliable publisher, if s/he's working in a relevant field, and if the material is directly relevant, it can be used without further evaluation. SlimVirgin (talk) 22:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm considering starting an RFC process on 2005, based on User:Barberio/scratch as his behaviour has not improved. (Taking ownership of WP:EL, Personal Attacks, sloppy use of reverts...) Would you be interested in supporting or endorsing this? -- Barberio 01:12, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Please see this deletion debate. Carcharoth 00:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, where should I got to propose or at least discuss a change to the MediaWiki software that would add the option for a watchlist addition to expire in 3 or 7 days? When I make changes on a page, I add it to my watchlist, but sometimes I only want to watch it for a few days to make sure the page is not vandalized again. It would be helpful if your watchlist entries could only last for a few days; items' expiration watchlist time would be reset upon each time you edited them. So, maybe I want to watch something for 3 days, and then I edit it two days in. I then have it on my watchlist for three more days from that point on. It would be another way to prevent editor burnout. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 22:25, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Hiding. If you can offer some tips on the respective portal talk pages about how to improve Cats and Dogs up to "featured" quality, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Rfrisbie talk 17:54, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey Hiding, as you requested, I am notifying you of my RfA. Looking forward to hearing your opinion! - Mike | Talk 21:10, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Hiding wrote:
Hi there. I understand your intentions, and I don't want to start an argument. Just remember we are here to write an encyclopedia, not a joke book. Keep humorous content in project space to a minimum; use your userspace, or another website dedicated to such things ( Uncyclopedia, for example). Thanks – Gurch 01:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Hiding! Long time no talk. Sorry to bother you, but it looks we might have an edit war at speedster (comics) between myself and Ace Class Shadow. If you could chime in with your opinion on that article’s talk page, so that we can achieve some sort of consensus, it would be appreciated. Thanks. Nightscream 10:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I'd love any input or organization you might be able to put to User:Phil Sandifer/Fiction essay. I'm trying to work out on broad principle some of the popular culture issues, at least as they relate to fictional texts, so that debates over them are somewhat less sterile, and so that everyone is on the same page about things like sourcing. Phil Sandifer 18:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know my thoughts on something. Whether we agree on a specific topic, or not, one thing I can usually count on from you is a thought-full opinion. The recent lengthy discussion about methods of dispute resolution exemplifies that. (One of my regrets of that discussion is that ChrisGriswald's RfA occurred during it, and considering the discussion, I was hesitant to vote in it, as I wished to, since I thought it could be seen as supporting him over you. Things were confused enough as it was. I would have voted support, and explained to you, if it was necessary, but fortunately it wasn't.)
I've read some of the "burn-out" concerns of yourself and CG, and it occurs to me that you and he (being, AFAIK, the only active WP:COMIC admins) are in rather huge demand, in a venue where the contributors are not always aware of wikipedian policies/guidelines/etc. (Not to mention unfortunately fairly constant issues of incivility.) Consider also that the WikiProject talk page has pretty much become a constant series of RfCs.
On top of this. though you seem to travel some of the same pages I do, I've noted that you seem to be quite a bit more prolific. I don't have anywhere near the level of wide-spread contributions you do, especially in Project space.
Anyway, hopefully, you'll get what I'm trying to offer, my: thanks; support; etc. And the hope that you don't let this place "get you down". If there is a way that I can help, let me know. - jc37 01:23, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Ping. John Reid ° 10:15, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Poke. John Reid ° 11:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Hiding:
I've asked another Admin for help, but have gotten no response thus far. This is eminently serious, and I'm asking you for help now. Here's what I wrote:
This is going to sound weird, but it's absolutely serious and a mark of desperation: I'd like to ask you to block me from editing Wikipedia from this Monday until the following Saturday. I have a serious problem not being to stay away from working on Wiki, and it's affecting my work and my deadlines. I can't stop on my own; I've tried. You could do a comedy sketch about this, with the Wiki addict going through all the steps and rationalizations and everything else an alcoholic does.
I know I have a problem, so I'm asking for help. Please block me from Monday to Saturday so I can concentrate on my regular work. I would appreciate this more than you could imagine. Please. -- Tenebrae 00:18, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Please: I'm still asking for help. The article Wikipediholic makes fun of it, but addiction comes in all form and it's humorous. I believe there needs to be a mechanism for users to voluntary have themselves banned — analogous, though obviously it's on a far lesser degree, to having oneself committed for observation. I understand you may have objections and you wouldn't want every Wiki-addicted Tom, Dick and Harry to come to you for help, but I'm asking this a collegiall favor. At least it's worth discussing. See my four hour contributions list just for today, a work day if you think this isn't serious. Thanks, -- Tenebrae 18:53, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry to be a bother, but you can see this is serious, and it's something I think the Wikipedia powers-that-be might reasonably addres. Thanks -- Tenebrae 18:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
OTRS is the system through which emails to the Foundation, including complaints, are processed. "OTRS complaint" means that somebody emailed the Foundation to protest. :-) David.Monniaux 22:02, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Just FYI (no expectation that you join in, though you are obviously welcome to, just thought you should know): User talk:BrownHairedGirl#More CFDs on MPs?. - jc37 01:51, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{ subst:smile}}, {{ subst:smile2}} or {{ subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!
I put quite a bit of effort into that article. Well, some anyway. Deleting it was a horrid thing to do.-- Boris Allen 18:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, you wrote this over at Wikipedia Talk:Naming conventions (television):
Do you agree this applies to city names too? I'm having a hard time getting editors to accept that U.S. city names in particular should not be disambiguated unless necessary. See: Wikipedia Talk:Naming conventions (settlements) (there is an ongoing survey near the top of the page, and a discussion near the bottom). Your input would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Serge 23:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I was able to have a very productive work week, which was critically needed. I'll look up the enforced-break script. Thank you again, Hiding — I can't express how much your help has meant. -- Tenebrae 21:54, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that you recently prodded Childrens comics for gcse exam. In reviewing the page history, I notice that it had been previously prodded in March. I don't disagree with deleting it, but doesn't it need to go through the AfD process since it had already been prodded? ~ BigrTex 04:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Please look at WP:0WW. I pled on Pump for people to come over so it would have wider input but instead I got a certain special fellow who is busy razing it.
I agree that on first blush the shorter policy always looks better. But there are distinct and deep reasons for breaking wheel warring into violations of a bright-line rule and violations of a balancing test. Worse, these late edits demote bright-line policy to some sort of nut. One more edit like this and everything that 20 different thoughtful editors have put together over the last year will be rubble.
If you don't have time to dig through all the history at Wikipedia talk:Wheel war/Archive, I understand. You can start here or take my word for it that the page has gone through a great deal of careful evolution.
Before merge, both pages were guidelines; I tagged the merge as guideline, too; there it stood for a month. Major changes should be discussed on talk. Our friend first tagged it down to proposed, then brought in the bulldozer. Sneaky or not, it's not okay. These rules -- call them whatever you will -- have already been cited in ArbCom decisions; perhaps I should have been bold and tagged the page policy from the merge. I've had a lot of input on this page already and I want you in there now -- if you'll be so kind. Thank you. John Reid ° 07:16, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure what speedy criterion you deleted it under and I'm not sure I think your actions were helpful considering the discussion I'd initiated, and I just want to register that frustration. You just chipped away at my faith in Wikipedia one little bit more, but there's no value in going any further with this, and you just chipped away at my faith in Wikipedia one little bit more. Anyway, see you around and happy editing. Hiding Talk
There were several things you and I were discussing, some of which have now been archived.
And elsewhere you mentioned something about task forces that I thought was an interesting idea.
I'm also working on "trying" to get the "requested moves" list more done (and eventually making the sub-page you suggested)
I have a few questions about the Portal (to see what we can do to bring it to featured status, if possible)
I nominated Peanuts for a "good" article. After that process, I'd like to see if we can go for FA.
And thank you for commenting about MPs. (Though the discussion from others seems to have ceased - which I did indeed suggest was an option.)
Now all that said, if I've innundated you with too much, please let me know (and if you'd rather I let you alone entirely, I'll accept that as well.)
Just trying to "catch-up". Hope you're having a great day : ) - jc37 14:00, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, trying to remember...
All that aside, what about comics-related categories did you want to discuss? - jc37 15:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't quite follow your comment on WP:WHEEL. You seem to be saying that you endorse both the current version as well as restoring the page to the previous version. Could you please explain if I missed something? Thanks. ( Radiant) 14:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for handling that so graciously. Chick Bowen 22:27, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
I was finding administrators for Wiki finally found someone. So the issue is a guy in my talk page he is offensive, and now started giving me threats of me getting banned from here. The issue is on the Article "Metallica" the guy puts on {{
totally disputed}} tag on it without any apparent reason, or mentioning anything in the articles discussion page. I removed it, they guy msged me, i told him how it was incorrect to put that tag, and put that back again, with a detailed explanation in the Discussion page of the article, he again removed it WITHOUT mentioning anything in the talk page and now stating the follwing in my talk page.
If you continue to remove this tag without addressing the issues, you may be banned for an undetermined amount of time. Due to the warnings you have already received on this matter, this will be the last one. If you decide to remove the tag again without addressing the numerous fact and POV tags in the Metallica article, you will simply be reported. Thank you. Roguegeek (talk) 10:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Is he an admin or what? And I did not like this way of counter-attack. If you can kindly resolve the issue, or tell me as to what should I do? Kindly do reply at my talk page.
Akeeq 10:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Someone gave, what I presume was some good advice at Talk:Peanuts. Since he used Superman as an example, and I noticed you did the fair use explanation of the hero-box image, I was wondering if you would take a look? - jc37 10:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
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Thanks for filling out that fair use rationale for me on Image:Peanutsgang.gif. - Mike ( Talk) 20:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC) |
Have another one for finding & adding all of those refs to
Peanuts. -
Mike (
Talk) 02:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I noticed you've edited the Editor Review page, and I'm trying to get some feedback on my Review. I wouldn't normally solicit, but it appears Editor Review doesn't get nearly the attention RfA does (and understandably so). Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading. -- Bobak 06:32, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Many thanks for your comments - some managed to pinpoint things I was vaguely aware of, others raised issues that I hadn't yet considered (such as the ties to Jim Shooter's reign) and I think I agree with pretty much all of them. Hopefully this will give me (& all of the editors who've been working on this) a clear way forward and a few things to consider. Thanks! -- Mrph 23:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I saw some of your contributions/comments scattered around and you sounded a bit less like your normal happy self than usual. I wanted to say that I've always appreciated your edits to policy pages and your comments on talk pages. Keep up the good work.
152.91.9.144 06:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I thought you might be interested in this. - jc37 09:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
This is a userbox version of the barnstar that I previously gave you. Use if you wish : ) - jc37 10:39, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
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The Barnstar
of Diligence - For attempting to help resolve a lengthy and often confusing communication breakdown, and as a nudge that you might continue to help in other such instances on Wikipedia : ) - jc37 19:49, 26 October 2006 |
Hi Hiding. I remember in talking to you a while ago that you believed one of the reasons Calvin and Hobbes might lose featured status if nominated today was on referencing issues. I agree with you that more are needed, and as I have farmed out the recurring themes into a sub-article, I am moving onto that task now. Seeing how many great refs you found for Peanuts, I thought I'd leave a message here to invite you to come and help out if you are interested. I promise not to get in an edit war this time ;-). After all, nothin bad has happened with Peanuts yet. Mike ( Talk) 03:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I would like to write up a new article as wikipedia:titleparagraphs. I'd appreciate your assistance. Title paragraphs often called 'opening' paragraphs in the literary world are very important to seize readers’ attention and encourage them to read on. Title paragraphcs need to be written in a surmising style in as few concise but detailed sentences as possible.
Notice the difference between this article and this one. A remarkable difference. Are you going to read the a whole title paragraph like that for every article you look up? Long title paragraphs deter users who are simply surfing or frantically looking for the low down of a specific subject at handm, they are also a pleasure for the serious researcher.
Unfortunately this is not a guideline. I think editors should be advised about this point and I would feel privileged to start the article. Please let me know how I could go about it. Thanks
Chavatshimshon 07:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey, just letting you know that i responded to what you said on my talk page. I asked a few questions there so if you could answer them there(so they will be easier to look up) that would be great TY. Phoenix741 20:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I've put a reference on it. Walton-on-Thames Thanks for that SuzanneKn 17:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Hiding. User:CovenantD and I have tried every way possible of trying to talk with a persistently troublesome editor, User:Asgardian, over his reversions to Awesome Android (comics). He insists he doesn't have to follow the comicx exemplar, he adds misspellings and other erroneous edits back in, he removes reference sources that I and others have used and cited, and he won't give straight answers to our questions and comments.
There's some discussion about all this at the article's talk page, and there had been much more at User talk:Asgardian — with other editors complaining about his clumsy wholesale edits of Galactus and other articles — but he erases all comments.
Could you suggest a way to go on this? Maybe have a third party look at both versions and render a verdict. CovenantD and I are at our wits' ends trying to work with Asgardian. He doesn't appear to want to work with other editors, however, nor even to communicate with them on his talk page.
Sorry to bother you with this. Several editors have tried reasoning with him to no avail. Any advice you can give would be much appreciate.
On an unrelated note, thank you again for the link to Wikibreak Enforcer. It's been a godsend; it really has. And on another note, as a fellow editor with interest in early comics history, I hope you have a chance to read and add to The Funnies, Funnies on Parade and Famous Funnies. With best wishes, Tenebrae 10:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Don't suppose you could weigh in on the borderline unpleasantness here on if it's an essay or what?
152.91.9.144 00:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I thought you might be interested in my proposal for Wikipedia to use logo variations created by members of the wiki community to mark national and international awareness days, Remembrance Days, notable anniversaries, and observance days. Please comment on Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Logo Variations and on my talk page. Thanks! FrummerThanThou 10:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I've responded to you on my talk page. Cheers •Elomis• 22:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Did you have that second run at adminship yet, or can I have the privilege of nominating you? Hiding Talk 12:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I enthusiastically support the idea of Jc becoming an admin. Is it more useful for me to co-nominate, or just to support the nomination when it comes up? Whichever is more likely to lead to success is fine with me.-- Mike Selinker 17:22, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Why was my page about my student deleted. Binyamin Katz had a very hard life and you deletin it has made him sink into a depression. Please consider putting it back up
Thanks and respond on my talk page please Drfreid 22:23, 27 December 2006 (UTC)Dr Paul H. Freidmann
but how come you can just come along and delete it? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drfreid ( talk • contribs) 22:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC).
Got it. Thanks.
Asgardian 07:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Hiding. Ironically I'm posting this just after your recent comment to User:Asgardian about his "minor edit" tagging. It appears that despite his promises, Asgardian, infuriatingly, has gone back to his old ways of not. As User:CovenantD and I believe others have reverted, Asgardian is again deleting "Publication history" at Awesome Android and seemingly just baiting other editors.
Wikipedia just seems like a joke to him. Despite all his promises to abide by policies and guidelines, he behaves for a few days, then goes right back to creating mischief. I plead with you (as I've also asked User:ChrisGriswold) to intervene. When is enough enough?
Thanks for any help. What a thing, huh? And let me at least wish you a Happy New Year, at any rate. Best to you and yours,-- Tenebrae 15:27, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Regards
Asgardian 09:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
A user keeps deleting a section that I wrote on the Paris Hilton page. I took a look at her user page, she seems like a person who would be a Hilton fan and I think she's just doing this out of objective resons; because she likes her. I tried resoning with her, but she keeps ocusing me of vandalism and violation of wiki rules and sicing some type of user at me or something, I'm not the nicest user, but she is over reacting.
Please, I admit I HATE Paris Hilton, but I did my best to keep the section non-obective and factfull. I didn't go writing stuff like
OMG HILTONS A SLUT FUKIN KILL HER HORE BITCHASS, DID YOU SEE THE SOUTHPARK EPIZOD LAWL!
You're an administrator, I'm counting on you to make some order.
Here are the links you'll need to look in to this and do what you think is correct.
User that's ocusing me User:Acalamari. Please look in to her and mine talk pages to see how we've been comunicating.
And the section we're fighting over:
NOW http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Hilton
MY EDIT http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Paris_Hilton&oldid=97178204
Look around the Backlash section.
Just do what you think is right, I hate it when some user overpowers me cause he or she has a friend with lots of fancy usertags, I've been a wikipedian for a long long time, I've been editing stuff before I got an account. So I rather feel insulted when someone shoves soemthing like
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing.
in my face, do you know what I mean?
Oh and, do let me know =) -- Mudel 19:17, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I think you deleted this in error. It has relevant history, including an AfD that closed no consensus.-- Kchase T 20:02, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I still think we should make Paris' disliking more noticable it is one of her most known asets, but hey you're the admin, won't argue with you guys, I will make more future atemts to point this out one day, and they will meet wiki standarts. But for the time being I submit to your will.
Though...
Aren't I intitled to my opinion on the talk page? She deleted my entry, because I was trolling, I admit I was, well I changed it later to
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Paris_Hilton&oldid=97178952#Backlash
she deleted it anyway and I think this was just an attack one me. Why well if you look at entrys like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paris_Hilton#This_whole_page_needs_cutting_down_to_about_1_sentence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paris_Hilton#Paris_Hilton.2C_The_Antichrist
You kinda wonder why didn't she jump at those. Hmmmmmm, oh maybe because none of them actually did anything to teh actual article, LIKE I DID.
So either get them all out or give me mine back, I don't want any administrative action against her, I just want the right to post my opinion/suggestion on a freakin talk page like everyone else did.
Respectfully -- Mudel 20:57, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey thanksa for the archiving suggestion, but I'd rather just keep me page minimal. All I got were deleted unpropper tagged image deletions and some user clashes. If there's anything more significant or amusing to me I leave it, besides I have the history if I ever need a blast from the past.
As for the Hilton talk page, I understand. And moving on from the issue would be a wise to do as you suggested.
...it's times like these I really hate my rebellious nature, people just seem to be able to ignore bad things if they don't really hurt them, but I just get annoyed by everything wrong, I mean why stand on a silent platform?? Fight the war, FUCK the norm!
I just can't be opressed man, not by some 16 year old facist. I just gotta fight my fight, I hope you can understand that, be it a war or a wikifit, I'll figth for what's right.
Anyway mate thanks for ye help ;)
Yeah, so you thought you could get with the hardlines
That fill your mind
Thoughts, battles fought
And lessons taught
Yes I'll display the fitness
And flip like a gymnast
Raise my fist and resist
Asleep, though we stand in the midst
Of the war
Gotta get mine
Gotta get more
Keyboard warm against the norm
-- Mudel 22:01, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
FYI, CovenantD's user page has been recently vandalized several times by two anons. The timing appears to implicate that it might in fact be Asgardian, but I have not checked this thoroughly. It might warrant a check user. Asgardian came to me for assistance possibly because I had recently blocked CovenantD for a 3RR violation in an edit war. You seem to already be involved in dealing with this, but let me know if I can be of any assistance. -- Samuel Wantman 06:43, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Hiding, we are having a bit of a problem at the 6th AfD debate for the article The Game (game). Specifically, we are having some debates about if an article truly needs multiple sources to be considered notable. Since you originally added that language to WP:N ( diff), I was hoping that you would be able to help with this debate. If you decide to contribute, please do so on the AfD page, so that all of the editors involved can benefit. I thank you in advance, and hope to discuss this issue with you further. — W. Flake ( talk | contribs ) 07:06, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Please e-consider the deletion of ASHIKA, as they are the first group to fuse,contemporary HEAVY ROCK/METAL/INDUSTRIAL sounds with eastern instrumentation.They are respected by the music industry as innovators and have many supporters round the world. www.myspace.com/ashikasoundsystem —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aleishap ( talk • contribs) 12:46 30 December 2006 (UTC)
please restore my article as you do not appreciate the importance worldwide of ASHIKA, who are respected as innovators being the first group to fuse HEAVY ROCK/METAL/INDUSTRIAL sounds with eastern instruments. they have supporters around th eworld, due to world tours, airplay, tv exposure cd sales etc. www.myspace.com/ashikasoundsystem —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aleishap ( talk • contribs) 12:51 30 December 2006 (UTC)
It's refreshing and reassuring. Thanks, as always, for being such a steady presence. I'll try to let my months of simmering frustration with one individual not get the better of me. -- Tenebrae 15:36, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
i HAVE READ ARTICLES IN MUSIC REVIEWS, HOWEVER THE only liink that comes to mind is that of www.roughtrade.com where ASHIKA were single of the week.. and where you can purchase their MOTHER EARTH CD online. also www.ashika.co.uk
ASHIKA HAVE FUSED contemporary metal/industrial sounds with eastern instruments..a considerable evolution from LED ZEPELLIN.
mANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO ME IT would add to the credence of WIKIPEDIA to have ASHIKA included. have you seen the list of people they have worked with? Do you understand contemporary ROCK/METAL ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aleishap ( talk • contribs) 17:54, 30 December 2006 (UTC)