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I will be adding 2017 award winners to the Australian Skeptics page. Drobertpowell ( talk) 21:44, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
I am in the process of editing Jill Tarter's page. Drobertpowell ( talk) 14:56, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
I have edited and expanded Jill Tarter's page. I am open to any further suggestions. One thing I can think of to get back to is to archive the web citations that have not yet been archived. Thanks. Drobertpowell ( talk) 16:52, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
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Great work on the Jill Tarter article. Kyle (talk) 20:30, 25 February 2018 (UTC) |
Thank you so much! Drobertpowell ( talk) 14:13, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
@ Everymorning: Hi! I added back the Category:Caucuses of the United States Congress just because that doesn't seem exactly redundant to have both that one and the Ideological Caucuses category. Does that make sense? Drobertpowell ( talk) 15:19, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for developing open science with a sentence and citation. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:28, 6 August 2018 (UTC) |
Hi! It appears that the bulk of your edits in recent months have been to add references to the Skeptical Inquirer. This is probably fine, but I am a bit concerned that this focus may be due to a connection with the journal, in which case you might need to be aware of the conflict of interest guidelines and the risk of adding such links to be perceived as spam. If you do have a conflict of interest, it might be best if you raised the articles on the talk pages of those articles first, rather than directly inserting them, as while editing articles with a COI isn't prohibited, it is better if this is managed transparently. - Bilby ( talk) 01:39, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Drobertpowell. You may not be aware of this, but what you are doing is WP:REFSPAM - adding references in order to include those from a particular source. You give the impression that you are looking for excuses to add references to the one publication, rather than trying to improve articles by finding appropriate sources. In some cases the references do add something, whatever the reason you add them may be, but in others this is not the case, and the text comes across simply as an excuse for the link. When I asked you about this before you stated that you did not have a COI, and that may well be the case. However your editing has been almost exclusively adding references to the one source - hundreds of times, in fact - and while you may not have a COI, you certainly give the impression that you are primarily acting in the interests of the journal. - Bilby ( talk) 14:34, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Well it looks as if we are at a stalemate. I don't think this is spamming. I don't think that there is anything wrong with the intent of a Wikipedia editor to use one source, the overall goal is to improve Wikipedia pages. I do think that it is a case by case issue on specific pages whether the specific edit is warranted or not. Skeptical Inquirer is RS and are most of the people we quote. I don't think this can be policed, nor should it. Measuring the intent of the editor is really getting into an area that I don't think anyone wants to deal with. As I said with the example given with the NYT's newspaper, it either belongs on the article or it doesn't. That is determined by the editors of the specific article it is being edited into. If an editor has a RS in front of them that they want to use, then who are we to say they can't use that RS, just because they use it over and over? You know the next question would be raised are how many times can a single editor use one publication? How much time needs to pass between each edit? Who decides this? I know I have better things to do than police this. I would rather assume good faith. Sgerbic ( talk) 18:08, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi Bilby! I think we are in the area of the subtlety of spamming as noted in the policy statement. There have been many instances where I have not inserted any material or citations from given SI articles because they did not add any information to relevant Wikipedia pages or I thought the author was not speaking from a position of authority. I will only add material and citations when I think it improves a given page. The methodology of starting with a reliable source might have superficial similarities to spamming, but when said improvement to Wikipedia is taken into account, to the extent that is the case on a case-by-case basis, it is clear that we are not spamming. We are only ending up at the same point from a different direction. Drobertpowell ( talk) 18:35, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for creating Vegan design.
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@ Rosguill: Thanks for bringing this up. I created this page at the suggestion of someone who is involved with vegan design, and I myself was not convinced of the notability of this idea. I'm glad you see it as notable, but as I recall it was a challenge to come up with the sources that I used. If there are enough other reliable secondary sources out there to bolster the acceptability of the page, as you seem to indicate, that would be great. Drobertpowell ( talk) 18:38, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
@ Rosguill: Thank you! I did some digging in academic sources (I work in an academic library) but didn't find much. I will try again at some point.... Drobertpowell ( talk) 19:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your addition to Walmart! Just one small note, when referencing this URL you appeared to assume it was a journal in this edit since it uses the volume and issue terminology commonly associated with journals. Skeptical Inquirer is a magazine however, so it's more appropriate to use {{ cite web}} or {{ cite magazine}} than {{ cite journal}}. Also, the magazine is subscription-only, which isn't very helpful for the reader to verify your addition. I added a ref by Forbes that is accessible to anyone, we prefer that. I have corrected it with this diff. If you have any questions feel free to message me, just remember to ping me. —comrade waddie96 ★ ( talk) 15:23, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
@ Waddie96: Thanks very much for finding and adding the fully accessible Forbes article as a reference. Sometimes Skeptical Inquirer provides full text online, and other times it does not. You are right in pointing out that this is, unfortunately, a case of the latter. Regarding the question of the literary status of Skeptical Inquirer, I am quite familiar with its format as a subscriber. I would argue that at worst it walks the line between a popular magazine and a journal. Its authors are often experts in the field about which they are writing, and the articles are footnoted. I wonder whether we can compromise around your edit. It provides fair warning that the full text of the article is not available online. However, it is not clear in the citation that the reference is from a print publication, and not just a web site. I would like to see information such as volume/number, date, and page number restored to the citaton. Is there a way that you would be willing to do that and still maintain the information you have added? Thanks for your help! Drobertpowell ( talk) 16:20, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Just a note to continue our discussion at the article talkpage. I forgot to mention, you can put {{ Under construction}} or {{ In use}} at the top of the page to indicate its status to other editors. Plus everything spelled out at Help:Edit conflict#Prevention. Happy editing! ☆ Bri ( talk) 01:06, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
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