See Wikipedia:Help desk#second AfD - another editor noticed that your AfD nomination of Murray Turnbull was not carried through correctly. The instructions for AfD nominations are here, and are quite fiddly. You might like to enable the Twinkle tool, which makes it much easier to get all the steps right. -- John of Reading ( talk) 11:57, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Are you by any chance Lev Alburt? Joefromrandb ( talk) 21:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Sorry I never got back to you after you posted a question on my talk page all the way back in January. Real life keeps me away from wikpedia a lot, but I do stop in to do some wikignoming edits from time to time and I have been back many times between January and now. I didn't intend to seem to be rude and ignore you.
I don't have any good ideas about career records. I personally am very hesitant to simply report database search results from chessgames.com or chessbase as I don't know any way to verify their accuracy and I think these sorts of database searches can stray into original research territory. My preference is to use published sources such as The Complete Games of Bobby Fischer by Wade and O'Connell, but clearly such sources will be available for only a vanishingly small number of retired players and essentially no active players. The only article I recall working on where career records was a major part is List of people who have beaten Bobby Fischer in chess.
On a different note, I want to thank you for examining wikipedia's chess articles with a critical eye. Although I don't always agree with you, I do learn more from people with a different point of view than I do from those with whom I agree completely. Several of your critiques have made me change my mind by making me examine things more closely. Quale ( talk) 05:09, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for considering me, but I haven't assessed an article in four or more years. We had some discussions about it several years back and it was clear to me that I had very different standards on both importance and quality than other editors in the chess project. Surprisingly (to me, anyway), my views are more generous on both. For example, a huge majority of chess articles are classified as low importance. I expected that importance would follow more of a bell curve, with few Top importance pages (as we have now), a fat middle of Mid importance, and then a smaller tail of Low importance. Instead the importance ratings are extremely bottom heavy, with 2/3 of the pages being judged Low or Bottom importance. Then there are people who argue that a page can't be better than a Stub unless it has an info box and the lede is at least three paragraphs. It's all subjective so I can't say that these views are wrong, they're just not my views, so I decided to leave assessment to a larger group of editors who were in more general agreement with each other. I've tried to not let myself get too wrapped up in the inevitable disagreements on wikipedia that really aren't very important, although I'm not always successful. You can see some of the historical discussion in the WP:CHESS talk archives: WT:WikiProject Chess/Archive_10#Assessing articles, call to the wikiproject chess community and the following section.
So, my suggestions are to add a topic at WT:CHESS asking for a reassessment and/or try the user talk pages of other members of the chess project. User:SyG may have assessed more chess articles than anyone else although probably not many in recent years, and User:SunCreator may be another good editor to ask as they are definitely still active in the chess project. User:Bubba73 and User:Voorlandt are excellent, as are User:Sjakkalle and User:Brittle heaven although I don't know if the latter two do many chess article assessments. All of them have been in the chess project for years.
Overall activity in the chess project seems down a little recently, although it's cyclical and I think the fact that it's summer in the northern hemisphere keeps editors otherwise occupied. It's good to have you adding some life to the project. Quale ( talk) 00:02, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
You might want to slow down a little. Steinitz was considered an American chess player in 1895 (and earlier in fact). See page xii of the tournament book, digitized by Google: The Hastings 1895 Chess Tournament. In fact there are a few other nationalities that should be corrected in the crosstable in the article. Quale ( talk) 04:13, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
It appears that User:Ihardlythinkso is a not-so-civil Wikipedian who likes to use WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT as a valid argument, meaning that he gives himself the right to make Wikipedia go by what he likes and he doesn't care if others like or dislike it. Neither of us even thought about this possible statement until recently. Georgia guy ( talk) 01:38, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Chess is just one of many subjects a sentence in the English language can be about. Georgia guy ( talk) 01:53, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for stepping in as strongly as you did, re Antichess "he". (Because, without that kind of support, I had already folded and given up, and the gender-neutral crowd would have successfully forced their way. [And does anyone really think it would only be that article ever, in the future? I don't.]) In spite of our sparks in the past, I know we both agree, it isn't about you or me or personal likes or dislikes, but just to remain true to chess within WP articles. Thanks again for stepping in, how & when you did. Ok, Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 19:16, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Chess for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot ( talk) 04:48, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I haven't talked to you in a while but you have always provided impeccable scholarship in chess articles. (Every time you have pointed out a factual issue even when it has been supported by sources, it has turned out that you were correct and the English-language sources were wrong.) I've made a plea at WT:CHESS#Azerbaijani Chess Championship for help completing the years missing in the article, and I wonder if you might be able to assist. Thanks. Quale ( talk) 22:01, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi :-) I started a new discussion on the Talk:Ashkenazi Jews page I thought you might want to take part in. It's called:
"Which 2 people should be in the collage - Botvinnik, Gershwin, Bernstein, Von Neumann" ( [1]).
Hopefully after that discussion it will be totally clear what the consensus is and what people want! 90.196.60.197 ( talk) 16:34, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Please quit it with the personal attacks. If you're still angry at me for reverting your POV pushing at rape statistics over a year ago, which as far as I can tell is the only time we've interacted, then take it up with an admin or work it out in therapy, rather than flinging about baseless accusations in an attempt to derail an ongoing administrative process. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 16:13, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Can you assist at List of Honoured Masters of Sport of the USSR in chess? It's a new article and the author is looking for additional sources. You are the most able chess editor I know concerning Soviet and Russian chess. See the talk page for some discussion. Thanks. Quale ( talk) 05:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
I reverted your deletion at Mir Sultan Khan. I know you dislike chessmetrics, but I don't think it's correct to state that there is consensus that the ratings are invalid, and there is certainly no proof that that is the case. Chessmetrics ratings can't be compared to Elo ratings, and the pernicious claims that a chessmetrics rating of 2600+ indicate grandmaster strength were erroneous. Fortunately you helped eliminate most or all of those. I think it's a reasonable claim that chessmetrics ratings are an indication of playing strength when compared to other chessmetrics numbers, as a world rank. Absolute chessmetrics ratings are nearly meaningless, but really the same can be said of Elo ratings. They can really only be evaluated when comparing other players of the same era using the same rating system. It is not claimed that it is the one true way, so really it's just a single mechanical opinion that is sourced to the algorithm and the statistician who developed it. That's exactly what was done in the article, so I restored the text. Quale ( talk) 03:20, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
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