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There is no guidance on using the |governor=
(or similar) parameter. I've always taken it to mean the governor(s) with/under whom the subject worked during their tenure(s) in office. Is this correct? Is there any codified or informal consensus for these parameters? —
Fourthords |
=Λ= | 14:02, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Commenting again to double-check: Is there any codified or informal consensus for how and/or with what the |governor=
, |lieutenant=
, etc. variables are to be filled? Is my assumption of the [whomever](s) with/under whom the subject worked during their tenure(s) in office
correct? If so, could it be added to the instructions? If not, what is correct? —
Fourthords |
=Λ= | 14:16, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
The available documentation seems to assume that politicians will be affiliated with a single party throughout their entire career. This is very much not the case in many places around the world. Is there a way to separately list the party with which a person was affiliated during each of the offices they held, which is an important piece of information in such cases? -- Paul_012 ( talk) 15:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Please change "State Representative" to "State representative" and "State Senator" to "State senator" per MOS:HEADINGS. Chris the speller yack 18:03, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
WP:BLPPRIVACY says that "articles should not include postal addresses, e-mail addresses, telephone numbers, or other contact information for living persons, although links to websites maintained by the subject are generally permitted" and later "If you see personal information such as phone numbers, addresses, account numbers, etc. in a BLP or anywhere on Wikipedia, edit the page to remove it and contact the oversight team so that they can evaluate it and possibly remove it from the page history." With this policy language, should "residence" remain a parameter in this template? My sense is that it should be deleted from the template to discourage editors from entering information that would violate BLPPRIVACY. -- Enos733 ( talk) 20:12, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
If the parameter "governor-general" is populated, it produces the heading "Governor-General", MOS:PEOPLETITLES specifically prohibits capitalizing the element after the hyphen: "When hyphenated and capitalized, e.g. Vice-president (as it is usually spelled in contexts other than US politics), the element after the hyphen is not capitalized." Shouldn't other titles also be in sentence case, such as "Governor general" and "Prime minister"? When the "primeminister" parameter has "Dilbert Smythe", isn't that a shorthand for "his prime minister was Dilbert Smythe"? Chris the speller yack 21:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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Description of suggested change: I propose adding a "service number" parameter to the infobox, exactly like the one at Template:Infobox military person. There are some articles where a person has a service number, but in order to list it in their officeholder infobox, a module using the military infobox needs to be utilized. This new parameter would solve that problem and allow the service number to be included in the standard officeholder infobox, just like every other military component. Diff:
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| header39 = {{#if: ...
| label46 = {{#if:{{{battles_label|}}}|{{{battles_label|}}}|Battles/wars}}
| data46 = {{{battles|}}}
| label47 = {{#if:{{{awards|}}}|Military awards|Awards}}
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| header39 = {{#if:{{{allegiance|}}}{{{branch|}}}{{{serviceyears|}}}{{{rank|}}}{{{unit|}}}{{{commands|}}}{{{battles|}}}{{{servicenumber|}}}{{{military_blank1|}}}|Military service}}
... | label46 = {{#if:{{{battles_label|}}}|{{{battles_label|}}}|Battles/wars}} | data46 = {{{battles|}}} | label47 = {{#if:{{{servicenumber_label|}}}|{{{servicenumber_label|}}}|Service number}} | data47 = {{{servicenumber|}}} | label48 = {{#if:{{{awards|}}}|Military awards|Awards}} | data48 = {{{mawards|}}} ... }}{{#invoke:Check for unknown parameters|check|unknown={{main other|{{#ifeq:{{{nocat|{{{demo|{{#ifeq:{{{categories|}}}|no|yes}}}}}}}}|yes||[[Category:Pages using infobox officeholder with unknown parameters|_VALUE_{{PAGENAME}}]]}}}}|preview=Page using [[Template:Infobox officeholder]] with unknown parameter "_VALUE_"|ignoreblank=y| regexp1 = 1blankname[%d]* | regexp2 = 1namedata[%d]* | regexp3 = 2blankname[%d]* | regexp4 = 2namedata[%d]* | regexp5 = 3blankname[%d]* | regexp6 = 3namedata[%d]* | regexp7 = 4blankname[%d]* | regexp8 = 4namedata[%d]* | regexp9 = 5blankname[%d]* | regexp10 = 5namedata[%d]* | allegiance | alma_mater | regexp11 = alongside[%d]* | alt | regexp12 = ambassador_from[%d]* | regexp13 = appointed[%d]* | regexp14 = appointer[%d]* | regexp15 = assembly[%d]* | awards | battles | battles_label | birth_date | birth_name | birth_place | birthname | regexp16 = blank[%d]* | bodyclass | branch | branch_label | cabinet | candidate | caption | categories | regexp17 = chancellor[%d]* | children | citizenship | regexp18 = co%-leader[%d]* | commands | committees | regexp19 = constituency[%d]* | regexp20 = constituency_AM[%d]* | regexp21 = constituency_MP[%d]* | regexp22 = convocation[%d]* | regexp23 = country[%d]* | regexp24 = data[%d]* | date | death_cause | death_date | death_manner | death_place | demo | regexp25 = deputy[%d]* | regexp26 = district[%d]* | education | election_date | embed | father | regexp28 = firstminister[%d]* | footnotes | regexp29 = governor[%d]* | regexp30 = governor_general[%d]* | regexp31 = governor%-general[%d]* | height | honorific_prefix | honorific-prefix | honorific_suffix | honorific-suffix | image | image name | image_name_alt | image_size | imagesize | image_upright | incumbent | regexp32 = jr/sr[%d]* | regexp33 = jr/sr and state[%d]* | known_for | regexp34 = leader[%d]* | regexp35 = legislature[%d]* | regexp36 = lieutenant[%d]* | regexp37 = lieutenant_governor[%d]* | mainwidth | regexp38 = majority[%d]* | regexp39 = majority_floor_leader[%d]* | regexp40 = majority_leader[%d]* | regexp41 = majorityleader[%d]* | mawards | regexp42 = military_blank[%d]* | regexp43 = military_data[%d]* | regexp44 = minister[%d]* | regexp45 = minister_from[%d]* | regexp46 = minority_floor_leader[%d]* | regexp47 = minority_leader[%d]* | regexp48 = minorityleader[%d]* | regexp49 = module[%d]* | regexp50 = monarch[%d]* | mother | name | nationality | native_name | native_name_lang | nickname | nocat | regexp51 = nominator[%d]* | nominee | occupation | regexp52 = office[%d]* | opponent | regexp53 = order[%d]* | otherparty | parents | regexp54 = parliament[%d]* | regexp55 = parliamentarygroup[%d]* | partner | party | party_election | portfolio | regexp56 = preceded[%d]* | regexp57 = preceding[%d]* | regexp58 = predecessor[%d]* | regexp59 = premier[%d]* | regexp60 = president[%d]* | regexp61 = primeminister[%d]* | regexp62 = prior_term[%d]* | profession | pronunciation | rank | rank_label | relations | relatives | residence | resting_place | resting_place_coordinates | restingplace | restingplacecoordinates | regexp63 = riding[%d]* | runningmate | salary | servicenumber | servicenumber_label | serviceyears | serviceyears_label | signature | signature_alt | signature_size | smallimage | smallimage_alt | source | speaker | speaker_office | spouse | spouses | regexp64 = state[%d]* | regexp65 = state_assembly[%d]* | regexp66 = state_delegate[%d]* | regexp67 = state_house[%d]* | regexp68 = state_legislature[%d]* | regexp69 = state_senate[%d]* | regexp70 = status[%d]* | regexp71 = suboffice[%d]* | regexp72 = subterm[%d]* | regexp73 = succeeded[%d]* | regexp74 = succeeding[%d]* | regexp75 = successor[%d]* | regexp76 = taoiseach[%d]* | regexp77 = term[%d]* | regexp78 = term_end[%d]* | regexp79 = term_label[%d]* | regexp80 = term_start[%d]* | regexp81 = termend[%d]* | regexp82 = termlabel[%d]* | regexp83 = termstart[%d]* | regexp84 = title[%d]* | unit | unit_label | regexp85 = vicegovernor[%d]* | regexp86 = vicepremier[%d]* | regexp87 = vicepresident[%d]* | regexp88 = viceprimeminister[%d]* | regexp89 = assuming[%d]* | website | width | year }} |
Politicsfan4 ( talk) 03:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
I recently made changes to Charles Harper (politician) to include all of their offices, but have noticed that under the first office ("2nd Speaker of the Western Australian Legislative Assembly") the predecessor and successor are not showing. I have checked all of the parameters and can't find any errors. Both fields were showing at multiple points when I was previewing the changes I was making but in the final published edit the information isn't displaying. Can someone please tell me what I've done wrong and how to correct it? Adam Black talk • contributions 20:09, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
John Politician | |
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Representative Example | |
Criminal charge | doing crime |
Penalty | wrist slapping |
Because there is a growing list of politicians turned criminals, I propose that we add fields (criminal_charge, convinction_penalty, and conviction_status) from Template:Infobox criminal to Template:Infobox officeholder in the same way that they have been made available in Template:Infobox person.
Currently, there is a dispute about adding an instance of Template:Infobox criminal to the page of Donald Trump following his criminal conviction. Given that some argue that the use of Template:Infobox criminal is too strong, the amendment of Template:Infobox officeholder as previously mentioned could provide a compromise. Bgregz ( talk) 00:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
|module=
parameter? —
Fourthords |
=Λ= | 03:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
|module=
.
Nikkimaria (
talk) 04:38, 31 May 2024 (UTC)The spouse parameter is causing issues on articles eg. Rishi Sunak, Donald Trump 93.37.105.221 ( talk) 11:36, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
The rendering is completely messed up on the wiki of many politicians. It is displaying an "ambassador to" field below all tables.
Eg:
Narendra Modi,
Rishi Sunak
am not able to add screenshots Skratata69 ( talk) 11:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
This has now been fixed. Not sure how or why. Toadspike [Talk] 12:09, 8 June 2024 (UTC)