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Because of a security problem, the Graph extension has been disabled with immediate effect. More information at VPT. This of course affects the annual readership template. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 14:00, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
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or something similar until the problem is fixed?
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Description of suggested change: Although the TfD is ongoing, it's looking like this template won't be deleted. In the course of that discussion it was noted that editors may not notice that the link in the banner title links to the pageviews website where annual readership statistics are still available. (It's easy to assume it just goes to a general help or explainer page, rather than an external tool, and miss it.)
I suggested amending the template's message to ensure that anyone who doesn't notice the link and expands the template has a second chance to notice. Another editor, Timeshifter, agreed. The text I suggested was:
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Until they are enabled again, click on "daily pageviews" in the banner title for annual readership statistics.
I don't mind wording it differently; the important thing is that it explicitly directs those who expand the template to the link in the banner title. I understand that message is set by {{ Graphs disabled}} which is used elsewhere, but perhaps a small note could be added beneath {{ Graphs disabled}} just within this template. – Scyrme ( talk) 19:35, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
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"daily pageviews"rather than vaguely saying "
above", should facilitate locating the relevant text again if it's missed the first time, even if a reader/editor is using a screen reader.
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We are in agreement. This is the best solution so far for the template for now. Until a template graph is added, or a page views link is added to a more prominent location.
Eventually, put page views link at page bottom as at German Wikipedia, on all pages whether logged in or not. It doesn't use any of the sidebar's prime real estate. Over time I think it would be seen by the most readers and editors compared to any other location other than the sidebar. Since it would be seen my more readers, I think I would help draw a few of them into editing. The other locations are seen mostly by editors. It would be very easy to add the link to MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyright as at w:de:MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyright. Idea came from here: Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Can a page views link be put in sidebar, or at page bottom as in German Wikipedia?. -- Timeshifter ( talk) 03:08, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
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Use latest sandbox banner from DFlhb above. Scyrme and I approve it. -- Timeshifter ( talk) 08:23, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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Request: Please remove the TfD notice. This was closed at TfD as "keep", but the protection of the template itself is preventing me from removing the notice. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 18:56, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
Talk:Australia is an example of a talk page with way too many header templates to read comfortably. What if it was possible to hide templates {{ All time pageviews}} and {{ Annual report}} inside {{ annual readership}}, like so:
− | {{annual | + | {{annual readership|extra hidden content=
{{All time pageviews|100}}
{{Annual report|[[Wikipedia:2009 Top 50 Report|2009]], [[Wikipedia:2010 Top 50 Report|2010]], and [[Wikipedia:2013 Top 50 Report|2013]]}}
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See Special:Diff/1226546007 for a possible implementation in the sandbox. It would look like this:
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Daily pageviews of Australia
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