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Just another guy with a PC. See my Commons user page:
commons:User:Timeshifter.
The Signpost, Tech News, The Bugle, and Centralized discussion are transcluded on this page:
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User talk here is not archived. Old talk is deleted. Users are allowed to remove anything from their talk pages. See WP:TALK and other wikipedia guidelines/policies. Like Wikipedia articles over time, people change, and there is little point in referring to past stale arguments and discussions.
To keep the discussion in one thread some comments added here are moved to the user talk page of the author. I reply there. I also watchlist that talk page for awhile in order to note when the user there replies. Harassing comments are also sometimes moved off this talk page. Sometimes the original author is offended by their own harassing comments, and my reply, on their user talk page. They then remove both from their talk page. I guess the light from their own verbal reflection offends them. One can find removed comments by using the history link on a talk page. Inappropriately-applied warning templates, etc.. are also removed from this talk page. Sometimes I remove stuff from my talk page for no particular reason, or for many varied reasons. Removal of comments from my talk page implies nothing. Don't take it personally. Unless I have requested otherwise, feel free to leave new messages on my talk page.
I had an image from Flickr from a photographer I just dealt with. He made the mistake of changing his copyright license to a Creative Commons one--but not one we accept. I took his word for it that he removed copyright in favor of Creative Commons, but since I'd just uploaded two of his photos with a correct one we accept, it was my oversight that he made a mistake and I didn't check it. The result of this was that the photo was not accepted in Commons for upload. Fine. But now I can't get the damned thing to upload it now that the license is correct! How RUDE. I've been uploading photos for years- more than any other editor I know of on the en.wikipedia. It is for this photo: [1]. How can I fix this? -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 14:38, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Could you believe the dark hearts won in deleting this entry? And now an article I started is also up for deletion by some nobody called LuckyLouie. -- HafizHanif ( talk) 21:24, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Timeshifter, would you be able to give your honest opinion regarding the deletion of Boyd's page? I think my suggestions at the discussion are fair and at least his memory as a scientist should be in wiki, regardless of the mention of any alien stuff. -- HafizHanif ( talk) 20:19, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Not sure if you or someone else is working on reintroducing this entry. I'm also not sure if you've come across this list of patents referencing Bushman's 1996 patent #5542247.
The sixth listed patent has two U.S. Airforce contracts; F49620-98-C-0038 and F49620-00-C-0005 with many independent source citations.
It is interesting how other deleted pages usually have a trail of information, but Boyd's has nothing. I didn't get to read what the final verdict was ( other than obvious deletion ). -- HafizHanif ( talk) 21:38, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
I might have been buzzing through the disambig. page for the Van Morrison/Robbie Robertson song, "Caravan", seen here: Caravan (Van Morrison song) which they played during the filmed final concert "The Last Waltz" - if it's just my need for glasses please forgive me. Hopefully I'll have a computer soon. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 11:10, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
What you saw was Flow.
Hello, I’m Chris, a community liaison in the Discovery department at the Wikimedia Foundation. One of the projects we’re working on is to bring interactive maps to Wikipedia. If you are interested, I’d like to have an informal conversation with you about your work with WikiProject Maps, and the conventions you all have created. I'd like to learn more about your work and how that might influence the design of interactive maps.
Please let me know of some good times to chat via email and I can setup a meeting for us. I can be reached at ckoernerwikimedia.org.
If you’re not interested, that’s fine. I would appreciate any direction to other editors that have been involved and might be interested.
Have a good day, CKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 20:46, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I don't know if there is a procedure to let people know when an editor quits to place a semi-retired placard on their talk page. In the case of Catfish Jim, one of my closest editing friends from the past, his talk page is looking like he's here, when it's just Admin and other bots that deposit info on timed intervals. To my knowledge, he hasn't been working since before I went into a coma three years ago. I think it's March 2012: [2]. I'll leave this to you as an Admin. I'm only doing little edits and am still not healed so, if you don't do something with this, I hope you'll pass it to someone who will. Thanks. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 13:09, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
As a member of WikiProject Cannabis, you are invited to help organize the project's upcoming "420" collaboration, which is scheduled for April 2017. Yes, we're a few months away, but we're hoping to get the ball rolling by getting buy-in from experienced Wikipedia editors and seek help fleshing out some goals and ideas for a successful campaign. We also plan to conduct both on-wiki and offlline outreach so non-Wikipedias can also contribute. If you are interested in participating, please sign up and contribute to the ongoing discussions. All editors are welcome! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:55, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi Timeshifter, You said that you might not see my reply on Meta, so I'll talk to you here. :) I'm on the Community Tech team, and we're still working on the cross-wiki watchlist. As you saw, the cross-wiki watchlist was one of the top requests on the 2015 Community Wishlist Survey, and our team is responsible for working on it. It's still an active project for us. It's held up right now by some changes that we need to make to the database, altering the really huge and scary revision tables. We have to wait for permission and help from the database administrator to make those changes. That's a delay, which is a pain, but once we get that done, we'll keep making progress on the cross-wiki watchlist.
There's another five top wishes from last year's wishlist that we shipped last year, and we're currently working on a few top requests from this year's wishlist -- rewriting Xtools, and warning people after there have been unsuccessful login attempts. I'd be happy to tell you more about our team or the Community Wishlist, if you're interested. Let me know. -- DannyH (WMF) ( talk) 23:42, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Hey, Timeshifter, I noticed your thread at VPT. The old toolbar that you posted a screenshot of:
...is the 2006 editing toolbar, and within the last week or so, it was retired by the WMF. I'm working on reintroducing it as a user-made script, if you want it back; if you want it, you can install it by adding the line (without <code></code> tags):
mw.loader.load("/?title=User:Writ_Keeper/Scripts/legacyToolbar.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript");
...to your common.js page. I'm hoping to get it introduced as an official gadget soon, but in the meantime, that should restore most of the functionality you're used to, I think. HTH, Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 18:10, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
An edit summary mention produces a separate ping so I got two pings for [3]. PrimeHunter ( talk) 08:48, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi! I am a student editing the page Incarceration of Women in the United States. I saw that you are a main contributor to the Incarceration in the United States article, so I was wondering if you might look over my article and give me any suggestions on what more I could work on? I have mostly focused my attention on the healthcare section, but I'm hoping to submit the entire thing for good article status, so I'd appreciate any feedback you have. Please feel free to post on my talk page! Thanks, Nicolekoonce ( talk) 19:19, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
hi. I just happened upon one of your own userboxes. i would like to try to help out. particularly with issues of editor responses, admin conduct. could you please let me know where I can help out? if you reply here, please ping me. thanks!! -- Sm8900 ( talk) 16:07, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
I have created Template:COVID-19 pandemic death rates/doc with instructions for updating Template:COVID-19 pandemic death rates. Please advise if you notice any errors.
I have included the VBA code of a Word macro to automate the later stages of the update. This should work just as well for Template:COVID-19 pandemic death rates by country. I tried to create a macro to automate the whole process, but either the program or my computer does not like large macros. Dudley Miles ( talk) 13:33, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
First I noticed that you undid the revision at Template:COVID-19 pandemic death rates by country/styles.css however it doesn't seem you have implemented the changes from User:Timeshifter/Sandbox119 there yet so the table is now no longer scrolling with sticky headers. Are you still planning to re-add those features? If yes is there a reason you're waiting to implement them?
Secondly, are you looking to create a table stylesheet that can be used to implement any of these features more generally, it seems to me this might be a good idea going forward if you are aware of any feature requests that have or are likely to recur.
Apologies if this has been asked and answered elsewhere I don't really have time to read through any of those discussions in full at the moment; thanks for your help. (please ping on reply)
𝒬 𝔔 00:12, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Update: OK I just noticed the link to Template:COVID-19 pandemic death rates on the help talk page; I presume then that this supersedes Template:COVID-19 pandemic death rates by country? If so it should probably be redirected to the new table. Second question still stands; although as I mentioned earlier it will have to be a bit before I can start on it, thanks. (please ping on reply)
𝒬 𝔔 00:44, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
(unindent). Thanks Quantocius Quantotius! There is a problem though. The collapse button only works on the template page. I just noticed this concerning "Show all" too. It works fine on the template pages. But when the 3 templates are together on COVID-19 pandemic by country and territory the buttons only work on the top template. So I guess the classes below are not specific enough. I copied the wikitext below from your recent addition to Template:COVID-19 pandemic data.
<div class="covid-show-table" style="font-size:80%;font-weight:500;">[[#covid19-container|[show all]]]</div><div class="covid-collapse-table" style="font-size:80%;font-weight:500;float: right;">[[#top|[collapse]]]</div>
I added the collapse part of the above wikitext to:
It works great on the template pages. But in the article with the 3 templates clicking any of the "show all" buttons in any table other than the top one does nothing. So the collapse buttons do not show up on the lower tables. Since they don't expand.
I created a sandbox just for you where you can experiment:
-- Timeshifter ( talk) 23:31, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Note: See further discussion here: Template talk:Monthly cumulative COVID-19 death totals by country.
Hey, sorry you didn't like the changes to your user boxes. I was confronted with some particularly anally retentive editors when I first started editing, and they advised me that the rules and guidelines applied to all of Wikipedia, not just the articles. So, I guess that is what gave me the impression I should make the changes, but I'm just as happy to leave them the way you had them since you didn't like the changes because I'm not currently retaining my anus. LOL.😀 Huggums537 ( talk) 02:22, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Updates associated with DannyS712's Global watchlist script and the Global watchlist extension:
Hi everyone. As I noted in the last issue, I received a grant last year from the WMF to develop the global watchlist script into an extension. That extension has now been deployed on Meta. Visit m:Special:GlobalWatchlistSettings to get started.
That grant has ended, and I have requested another grant to continue development of the extension, and figured subscribers of the newsletter about the user script might be interested. You can see and comment on the grant request at m:Grants:Project/DannyS712/Continued work on GlobalWatchlist extension - if you support this, I hope you'll consider endorsing the request.
Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 00:28, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
The use of HTML in wikitext is in fact HTML.
Thanks. -- Izno ( talk) 20:09, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
<ul></ul>
in the browser HTML, and in the rendered output (at least in my browser), the images are placed closer to the left margin. So it seems that John and Izno are correct.
Writ Keeper
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♔ 21:04, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
margin-left: 0
on the list item elements.
Izno (
talk) 21:33, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
margin-left:0
What inaccessibility problem are you seeing?is precisely the wrong question when it comes to screen readers. Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 21:55, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
li
tags are invalid HTML when used the way they are. (Granted, there are a ton of other errors, too, but that doesn't mean it's okay for us to throw a bunch more onto the pile; an analogy to
WP:OTHERSTUFF comes to mind.) As Izno points out, screen readers parse the HTML structure of a page to present it to their users, and any invalid HTML can cause problems for screen readers; thus, it is incumbent on us as editors to avoid invalid HTML wherever possible, because being proactive about avoiding accessibility issues is our responsibility as editors. We should not wait until a person who depends on a screen reader to complain; if they complain, we have already failed. I don't think "I like the margin padding better" is reasonable as an excuse to use invalid HTML, especially when the same effect can be accomplished with valid HTML, and "I think the HTML looks better" is certainly not a reasonable excuse. Do better.
Writ Keeper
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♔ 22:30, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Side-by-side tables and/or images look exactly the same with or without <ul> in the wikitext.That is demonstrably false, though; there is both a visible difference and a difference in the HTML output. When this was pointed out to you, you said
In this case <ul> serves no purpose except to mess up the left margin. Someone complained about this elsewhere. Removing <ul> fixes that problem. So, now, you're saying that you see the difference (in the left margin), and are remivng UL tags deliberately to fix that. But you see how that does not correspond with what you said forty minutes earlier and ten lines above, right? You're moving the goalposts. Now, you're demanding that a person who uses a screen reader come in and prove to you that there's an accessibility issue. But it should not take a blind person with a screenreader to tell you that you're messing up the page to convince you to stop inserting invalid HTML into a page. If there are hundreds of HTML problems with a page, we don't fix it by adding ten more. And honestly, the rules of how HTML works should be the baseline for any conversation about HTML in Wikipedia, even before we get into any questions about accessibility. The burden of proof is on you to justify why you're breaking the rules of HTML, and "I don't like the margin (which can be fixed with valid HTML)" and "it's nine bytes less code" does not cut it. Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 00:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
(unindent). I have been clear all along that other than the left margin, the visible output is the same. Both versions are side by side tables that wrap. Someone else on the Help:Table talk page complained about the left margin. They did not like all the clutter of using <ul style="margin-left:0px;"> to get rid of the left margin. I experimented and noticed that getting rid of <ul> altogether got rid of the left margin. This allowed side by side tables to work in narrower screens with simpler wikitext. It is all on the talk page. You keep thinking that HTML in wikitext has to follow all the rules of HTML elsewhere. According to
this w3schools page <p> without </p> is malformed HTML. But
Help:HTML in wikitext says: "Note that the closing tag </p>
is not strictly necessary for MediaWiki installations that output HTML 5 (such as Wikipedia)." There are many other examples of allowed HTML use in wikitext that does not follow the HTML rules elsewhere.--
Timeshifter (
talk) 02:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
(unindent). Graham. So your screen readers read the divs option OK at sandbox 153? Or below? I pasted it below so that others reading this thread can check it out too.
Player | Matches | Goals |
---|---|---|
Guðmundur Hrafnkelsson | 407 | 0 |
Guðjón Valur Sigurðsson | 364 | 1,875 |
Player | Goals | Matches | Average |
---|---|---|---|
Guðjón Valur Sigurðsson | 1,875 | 364 | 5.15 |
Ólafur Stefánsson | 1,570 | 330 | 4.76 |
Everybody: Narrow your browser screen to see the tables wrap (one drop below the other). Works in mobile view too. -- Timeshifter ( talk) 03:19, 16 June 2021 (UTC) -- Timeshifter ( talk) 03:19, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi! Sorry if I'm bothering you. I am new to Wikipedia and wanted to contribute to the site. I noticed that the external links at the bottom of the table help page contains webpages that allows you to make tables only from inputting data directly into the website. I was wondering if it was Ok for me to add a link to a webpage that makes tables that allows user to upload excel files and convert it to the wiki format and vice versa. Thanks! -- Rangusangus ( talk) 17:12, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
@ Timeshifter: Sorry to keep you waiting! I found the website here: http://www.excel2wiki.com/ Looks like it was originally excel2wiki.net but was changed to the current one Rangusangus ( talk) 03:15, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
@ Timeshifter: The Copy & Paste Excel-to-Wiki converter. and the other one at Help:Table#Converting spreadsheets and database tables to wikitable format are different as they only supports ctrl + c/v to paste the table and the the other (www.excel2wiki.com) supports uploading excel files directly on the website. -- Rangusangus ( talk) 08:57, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
@ Timeshifter: I have used this converter before and can confirm that it works. Personally, I find it more convenient than the other converters, especially for larger tables as it requires a file upload than copy pasting. It also has options for single quote and double quote tables.
@ Timeshifter: Can you take a look at the website now? They said the problem should have been fixed. Loading times are still normal for me. -- Rangusangus ( talk) 04:43, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
@ Timeshifter: They said there were a minimal amount of external styling and scripting and there was nothing too fancy.
-- Rangusangus ( talk) 09:39, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello :) I am writing my MA dissertation on Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict, and I noticed that you have contributed to those pages. My dissertation will look at the process of collaborative knowledge production on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and the effect it has on bias in the articles. This will involve understanding the profiles and motivations of editors, contention/controversy and dispute resolution in the talk pages, and bias in the final article.
For more information, you can check out my meta-wiki research page or my user page, where I will be posting my findings when I am done.
I would greatly appreciate if you could take 5 minutes to fill out this quick survey before 8 August 2021.
Participation in this survey is entirely voluntary and anonymous. There are no foreseeable risks nor benefits to you associated with this project.
Thanks so much,
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Sarabnas I'm researching Wikipedia Questions? 11:01, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Howdy Timeshifter,
I really appreciate the hard work you've out in to US drug overdose death rates and totals over time. It's a great article. One thing I would like to comment about: some passages are a bit informal.
For example: "Around 100,300 died in the 12 month period ending April 30, 2021.[4] That's 275 a day."
Would you agree that this declarative "That's 275 a day" seems a bit informal? Would it bother you if I changed the lead to something like "Around 100,300 people died in the 12 month period ending April 30, 2021, at a rate of 275 deaths per day.[4]"? I don't want to ask you to do anything because I know you're such a busy contributor.
Regardless, Happy New Year! -- Hunan201p ( talk) 22:30, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Timeshifter, the template you created Template:2021 monthly cumulative COVID-19 death totals by country, is no longer being used anywhere on any article or somewhere related to COVID-19. Before I nominate it for deletion, there are two other 2021 templates that you also created, Template:2021 first half. Monthly cumulative COVID-19 death totals by country and Template:2021 2nd half. Monthly cumulative COVID-19 death totals by country. Did the first and second half templates replace the template in question and is no longer needed? Or does it still have some benefit in remaining? -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 23:15, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
COVID-19 Barnstar | ||
Awarded for efforts in expanding and verifying articles related to COVID-19. Awarded by Cdjp1 (talk) 8 March 2022 (UTC) |
The Original Barnstar | ||
Awarded for being the top contributor to an article related to COVID-19. Awarded by Cdjp1 (talk) 8 March 2022 (UTC) |
Hey, Timeshifter. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the
Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Chris Troutman ( talk) 18:46, 7 October 2022 (UTC) |
I am hoping I am doing this correctly. I saw your comments on Raw Story and agree with them.I am sorry but I do not have an account and hope this is the correct place to respond. I will also answer you on the other page.
Can you PLEASE --- whenever you have time take a look at Palmer Report? There has been a Wikipedia attack from some republican editors. They are a political site -- a good one and I am a fan.
For months (years) scores of people have been pleading with the editors there to take the "hyper partisan, fake news website" out of the header. It is not accurate. It was put there by the same person who muddied up Raw story -- a republican. I along with dozens -- literally dozens of people protested. We felt it was an attack, a vicious one. The response was always send some reliable sources to counter it.
Only nobody ever used the term "hyper-partisan, fake news website" in the first place. I spent four hours trying to find a source and asked several times. There are some obscure republican sources. They never used, to the best of my knowledge any of those terms.
They also locked the page when people tried to change it and called it vandalism. But everyone I saw came in good faith. The Palmer Report is not fake news and is very much like Raw Story. I had a source -- Brian Williams from MSNBC did a segment several tears ago and used information from their site. I was told that was not interesting enough to put on the site and then they ignored me and all the others. You an easily see this through old Talk pages because there are over a dozen complaints.
I hope you are not upset that I posted such a long post but I think what is happening makes Wiki look very bad and I liked what you said on the raw story site. I do not want to name the person less it be thought of as a verbal attack but you can see all this quite easily. Please if you can do anything, please research this and please look seriously at the "hyperpartisan, fake news" entry. Because that is not neutral.
Thank you,
2600:6C65:7E7F:B93E:AD3C:1976:2DA8:EAB2 ( talk) 00:33, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 02:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Dear Timeshifter, I have seen you answered a question about line break. I have a similar problem and need help. I'm from the german Wikipedia and less familiar with the english one. Now I caused trouble: I reworked this article: Digital Cleanup Day. It was written in a very confusing and promotional way, but to save at least something of the original authors work, I wanted to keep at least his great source work. The problem: Wikipedia does not allow line break between footnotes (for example after the word „France“ in this article) Can you force it to break the line? I hope, you can help or you know someone who can. All solutions are welcome, at worst reducing the footnotes, because right now it looks like sh**t. Thank you very much! Christian Thorwest ( talk) 00:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi Timeshifter! Phab:T354015 is going to be fixed next WP:THURSDAY (a week from today), which means the merger of {{ import-blanktable}} will finally be achievable. Looking at the transclusions of the old template, a bunch of them are in your userspace:
Not sure what you want to do with them; maybe replace them with {{ mw-datatable}}? Best, House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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