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Shane Warne was nominated as a Sports and recreation good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (October 21, 2022). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
Shane Warne was nominated as a Sports and recreation good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (April 4, 2022). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
A news item involving Shane Warne was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 4 March 2022. |
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"In case of emergency, break glass." There was so much vandalism coming in that even with pending changes, it made it into live versions. Accordingly, I've semi-protected the article for a day. Any administrator may unprotect without consultation with me. — C.Fred ( talk) 14:29, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
It seems a lot of the less savoury elements of his life have been removed as people rush to eulogise. I would suggest that someone appropriately authorised should review the portions that have been removed. - adfhau ( talk) 9:47:30, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
The page is a bit of a mess. The lead appears fragmented as does the personal life/controversies part. Maybe merge both sections to reduce them down? Solipsism 101 ( talk) 14:46, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Anyone else notice that the image in the infobox is a different aspect ratio and has a different colour to the actual image? Steelkamp ( talk) 16:22, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
The list of tributing players should be in alphabetic order. ARog1983 ( talk) 07:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
I don’t know how to link articles — I’m worried that if I reorder the list we’ll lose the links. ARog1983 ( talk) 07:40, 6 March 2022 (UTC) EDIT: Done.
Is it necessary to say, "Foul play was ruled out on 5 March 2022"? The article states in the previous line that he died of a suspected heart attack, and nothing in the article suggests he was a target for "foul play". It's just one of those things newspapers write. We don't need to include things that never happened. Magnolia677 ( talk) 08:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Agreed. I reckon the Thai police are covering every boundary because he’s such a high profile Australian. (Apologies for the pun but you see what I mean.) ARog1983 ( talk) 08:13, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
I, too, have noticed the tribute section getting quite large. That being said, I don't really feel like there's much there that isn't warranted—if anything, it's more of a testament to how popular he was. That being said, it is my opinion that any cutting of the tributes section be decided democratically. Thoughts?
Electricmaster ( talk) 09:47, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
I've nominated the article for GA. It will need effort but isn't very far away. I will add others to the credits if they help at the time of review etc. Desertarun ( talk) 15:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
The article has had a thorough copy edit from GOCE so it can go for another run at GA. Desertarun ( talk) 08:24, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
After winning the test with 3 late wickets at Colombo (SSC), Warne was dropped for the next test at Colombo (RPS) so the statement is misleading <cricinfo> edit required for this statement However, Warne's performances in the last two Tests in Sri Lanka were not to the satisfaction of the selectors Gismania ( talk) 11:27, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
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Change cause of death from "natural causes" to "suspected heart attack". If whoever has written the cause of death as of natural causes, then they would see upon sources from Sky News (courtesy of Google) that Shane died of suspected heart attack at 52. Whoever heard of a death of natural causes of 52 years old? 213.205.198.203 ( talk) 16:50, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
The autopsy reports have revealed the reason behind the death of Australia cricket legend Shane Warne, who had passed away on Friday. Warne, aged 52, was initially revealed to have died of suspected heart attack while he was on a vacation in Thailand with his friends. Autopsy report, as confirmed by Thai authorities, revealed that he died of natural causes.ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 17:03, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
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Reviewer: No Great Shaker ( talk · contribs) 15:00, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
I'll be happy to do this review. Hope to provide some feedback soon. No Great Shaker ( talk) 15:00, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm applying immediate WP:GAFAIL here because the article is not at all well written and it badly fails GACR#1. Although there has been no edit warring, I don't consider the article to be stable (as per GACR#5) because it was added to WP:GAN only days after Shane Warne's death and while a lot of activity was ongoing. I have studied the lead in depth and it doesn't comply with MOS:LEAD as well as being badly written. I've only skimmed the narrative but I can see the problems in the lead are repeated throughout.
Focusing on the lead, the points noted are:
A right-arm leg spinner. What about his batting?
considered asis poor grammar. Say recognised as or considered to have been. Better to use acknowledged to have been (see above).
the only specialist bowler and the only one still playing at the timeis ambiguous.
Warne played his first Test match in 1992 and took more than 1,000 wickets in Tests and One Day Internationalswill confuse readers who aren't knowledgeable about cricket. Bringing ODIs into it loses the context. Keep them separate.
In 2007, Warne was named in Australia's greatest ever ODI team. Context again. Was this an all-time team based on someone's opinion or was Australia's 2007 ODI team their best ever (like their 1948 team being the best ever in Test cricket)?
where he played the roles of both captain and coach. This needs to say he was the player-coach who also captained the team. Coaches don't usually play so, as written, this may confuse the reader.
In the 150th anniversary of the Wisden Cricketers' Almanack. It was the 150th edition. An anniversary is different.
In 2012, he was also inducted into the Cricket Hall of Fame by Cricket Australia. Why also when there is no other mention of 2012?
for the IPL 2018. IPL 2018 is an event title which does not have a definite article.
His career was plagued bymay present a false perspective. Better to say that he was involved in the off-field scandals.
He was also honoured at a state memorial service at the ground after his death. This is, frankly, appalling. He would hardly be honoured with a memorial service while he was still alive.
I have only skimmed the narrative but I can see that the prose there is of a similarly poor quality and the list above is long enough to illustrate the problems. This should not have been nominated and a considerable amount of work will have to be done to bring it up to the required standard. No Great Shaker ( talk) 21:43, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Note to next GA reviewer: The article has had over 90 edits from WP:GOCE since this GAN. I believe the prose problem to be fixed. Desertarun ( talk) 08:31, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
How old is brother 110.174.80.168 ( talk) 05:31, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Boca Jóvenes ( talk · contribs) 16:21, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
I'll review this, though it will take several days as the coverage is very broad. BoJó | talk UTC 16:21, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
Actually, it doesn't need much time after all because it is an immediate WP:GAFAIL, as it was in its first review earlier this year. The main problem last time was the prose, especially in the lead, but this time it is the coverage. There is only one mention of Warne's career with Victoria and little more about his time with Hampshire. Also, the sentence about Victoria is incorrect because it was a first-class match in which Victoria played Western Australia – it was not a match involving Victoria Bushrangers and a team called W. Another error is in the best performances table where it reads that he took 6/42 for Surrey v Hampshire. The whole article needs to be combed to omit errors like these.
While there is too little about Victoria and Hampshire, there is far too much in sections 9 to 13 which contain no less than a third of the total content. The reader who comes to this article is looking for coverage of his cricket career, not trivia about Kath & Kim, or Messages On Hold or Liz Hurley. The tribute and memorial sub-sections are WP:UNDUE and, in part, amount to name-dropping of so-called "celebs". You would do well to consider Don Bradman#Later years and death which has about 290 words and includes everything that needs to be said about his death, memorial service and eulogies.
There is one strong prose criticism which is the number of short, often single-sentence, paragraphs. Also, some of the sentences need sense-checking. "During the county season, reports Warne had repeatedly sent lewd SMS messages to an English nurse emerged" should say "reports emerged that" or "there were reports that". The lead is okay, however, and there are no problems with POV or WP:OR. I haven't checked the sources thoroughly but they seem okay at face value. There are plenty of appropriate images and I'm not aware of any problems there. The article is stable as regards no edit warring although I see there are vandalism problems and it might be advisable to request protection.
To summarise, I am failing the review immediately because, per GAFAIL #1, the article "is a long way from meeting one of the six good article criteria". In this case, it is a long way short of GACR#3 in that fails both 3a and 3b. The changes needed to resolve this issue do not justify placing the article on hold. BoJó | talk UTC 21:29, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
Should these sections be combined? I understand that chronologically the T20 stuff comes after his international career, but would it fit more appropriately with the domestic career section alongside Victoria and Hampshire? Adc95 ( talk) 09:45, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
How is "Warne" pronounced? ---- MountVic127 ( talk) 05:56, 20 April 2024 (UTC)