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An earlier version stated that Long's Peak is on the reverse of the Colorado State quarted. This is inaccurate, as there was not a specific mountain or real world image selected for the minting (US MINT, Colorado.gov)-- Tbkflav 21:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
For everyone in the world other than Americans, shouldn't peaks be given in metric?
I need to know Three animals 2 plants DEscription of the habitat with the niche of each one and the f living organisms
Part of this article bears a staggeringly accurate resemblance to the article on The Rocky Mountains by Thomas J. Stohlgren of the USGS Biological resources division, Fort Collins, Colorado, to be found at biology.usgs.gov. The parts of this article about hydrology, industry (and I ran out of time to check any more), are almost word-for-word. Also the "inaccurate" calculation of population density discussed earlier is from his article. Does anybody know, is Mr. Stohlgren a willing or "accidental" contributor and does HE know? -- ATeacher 3/Dec/06, 10:15 GMT
-- ATeacher 5/Dec/06, 22:20 GMT
It sure takes up a lot of room for a page that's about mountain ranges....so what's the deal if there's a Columbia River basin template, a Missouri River basin template, a Fraser River basin template, etc? Wouldn't it get kinda cluttered around here? I think a template showing the proper hierarchy of the subranges of the Rockies is much more a propos, but I'm not equipped to design it (see e.g. Continental Ranges, which are a subdivision of the Canadian Rockies; those and related articles I've just put all subranges into as listed in bivouac.com, which sourced USGS in the States and S. Holland in Canada). Skookum1 06:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, but those precipitation values don't work out: If you add the average numbers given for summer, fall, winter and spring, you get 24.1 inches for the whole year, but in the previous paragraph, it says only 14 inches per year? -- 213.218.25.130 13:53, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
although i like the pictures, i think that a map showing the rocky mountains is would be a beautiful addition. so, a suggestion for someone who has the time... peace – ishwar (SPEAK) 21:37, 2005 May 18 (UTC)
That must be from an American textbook; the stock story in Canada is that the first sighting of "the Shining Mountains" (I'll get teh French for another edit) was by La Verendrye; I just checked his article but the factoid isn't there so I can't pin the date as I'd hoped to; much of this article is already written from a US-perspective, a common complaint with cross-border articles; the story of Pere la Verendrye and his sons seeing hte mountains, and not being able to continue towards them, is taught to every Canadian gradeschooler as part of the whole "explorers of Canada" mythology; our history is tied in with that of New France a lot more tightly than that of the US is, so I'd venture taht our story is teh correct one; "first sighting in what is now the United States" might apply to the Mallets I guess......that bit about the local indigenous people calling them "the Rockies" seems highly unlikely and needs a source/original language-name bigtime. Skookum1 ( talk) 21:20, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
The Cree name is Usinnewucheyu, meaning "big rocks" (A Dictionary of the Cree Language, by E.A. Watkins, revised by J.A. Mackay, edited by Richard Faries, 1938). The Sekani name for the Rocky Mountains is Tse Tiy. [meaning/significance and extent not provided] (from Guzagi K'úgé, published by Kaska Tribal Council, Watson Lake, 1997). The Ktunaxa name for the Rocky Mountains is Natmuqc/in, pronounced nath-mook-stin. [meaning/significance and extent not provided] (April 2006 advice from Janice Alpine, Ktunaxa Language Program) Source: BC place name cards, or correspondence to/from BC's Chief Geographer or BC Geographical Names Office
"In his diary while Governor of York factory on Hudson Bay in 1716, James Knight notes the arrival of a band of "Mountain Indians" with whom he had "a great deal of discourse." They told him their country was "very mountainous and of a prodigious height... so they cannot see the topps without it be clear weather... The sea lyes but a little way to the westward of the mountains." This is the earliest reference to the Rocky Mountains in the records of the Geographic Board of Canada. In 1730 Beauharnais, the French governor, transmitted to France a sketch which the Indian, Ochagach, had drawn for La Virendrye showing the Grand Portage route to Western Canada from Lake Superior. This map indicates the "montagnes de Pierres Brillantes," a name which is found in translation "mountains of Bright Stones" on Jonathan Carver's map of 1778. The mountains were referred to by their present name in Legardeur de St.-Pierre's journal of 1752. He calls them "montagnes de Roche" although it is doubtful he actually saw the main range. The name is a translation of the Indian name, which in Cree is assinwati, in Stoney, niaha, and in Blackfoot mistokis. Viewed from the prairies the Rockies present a great wall of rock." ("Origin of Name of Rocky Mountains: Geographic Board of Canada Gives Earliest Reference to Present Name" published in Natural Resources magazine, Canada, May 1930)
I was already contemplating List of indigenous names for the Rocky Mountains, or maybe just as a table within this article; as in one of my edit comments I don't see why only the Cheyenne name is mentioned in the intro; but there's too many indigenous names for them all to be there; note the Canadian version of the origin of the name vs the Mallet account; and it's not stated clearly that Legardeur de St.-Pierre's usage was in fact directly adapted from the Cree/Stoney/Blackfoot although it would seem from overall context of the sentence that is the case. I'll crib up that table I guess, either for use in a "Name" section here or in a split-off list; which do you think is better? Skookum1 ( talk) 04:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm of mixed feelings about whether the Peace should be included; it traverses the Rockies in the same way the Columbia does the Cascades - passing through it more than having its sources in it. I'll have to look up the flow-rates for the Parsnip, which short though it is at least partly has its main sources in the Rockies ( Mesilinka and Osilinka Rivers I think) but also is fed by the Nation River from teh west and the southern Ominecas. The rest of the Peace's flow is from the Finlay River basin and while some of the Finlay's tributaries come from the Rockies - the Kwadacha is the largest - most of them, including the Omineca River, originate in the Stikine Ranges or Omineca Mountains, even in the farther end of them up against the Stikine and Skeean basins; a long way from the Rockies. Id' take the Peace out of the list for all those reasons, in fact; the others all start IN the Rockies, which the Peace doesn't; but that would leave the Athabasca orphaned and I havent' made the northern river articles yet, or am unaware of them - Fort Nelson River and Muskwa River might already exist, Pine River (British Columbia) and the other south-of-the-Peace rivers, which are many, aren't written up yet; t he upper Columbia tributaries like the Blaeberry and Kicking Horse Rivers I havent' bothered with yet. Skookum1 ( talk) 21:28, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
The Rockies extend from N.Mex. to NW Alaska. Their southernmost peaks are in the northern part of the American state of New Mexico. The ranges in Mexico are called by other names.
Even though they are called by a different name in Mexico, aren't they the same chain of mountains?
Answer... there is a great deal of confusion as to what the Rockies encompass. The definition used in the article is the continuous chain of dolomitic fold mountains on the eastern edge of North America's Western Cordillera. This is the correct definition. However, in popular usage, the term is often used to mean the entire Cordillera, which extends from Western Alaska to Panama. So the Rockies do not extend into Mexico, although the Cordillera does. The Rockies were formed by the same westward continental drift as the rest of the Cordillera, but are a geologically distinct subunit of it.
The Rockies are not near a plate boundary, so I've always been puzzled as to how they formed. Serendi pod ous 16:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
If the Rockies are seid to extend all the way Mt. Elbert isn't the tallest mountain, is it? What about the many taller peaks in Canada and Alaska? -- LMS
Have removed Glacier and Revelstoke national parks from the Canadian list, as neither are within the Rocky Mountains. Ian mckenzie 03:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Just removed a rather large, unsourced addition to the history section about fauna. It was misplaced and had the "look" of a cut-n-paste from somewhere. Vsmith ( talk) 23:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Good call: it was a copyvio from [4] — hike395 ( talk) 02:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, the Canadian version anyway, which is from Monkman Pass northwards to the Liard. I'm aware that "Northern Rockies" in the US means from the Tetons up into Montana and over into Idaho, so perhaps Northern Rockies (U.S.) is needed also, given Southern Rockies exists... Skookum1 ( talk) 00:27, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I just created this and please see Talk:Rocky_Mountain_Foothills#coordinates_problem on a tricky sourcing problem....as with Northern Rockies there may be a call for Rocky Mountain Foothills (U.S.) though I don't know if that's an official USGS name, rather more of a concept. In Canada it's a formally-named landform...but with two different sets of coords (see that link). Skookum1 ( talk) 03:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I see all these American pictures but there are 0 Canadian Rocky Mountain pictures.. what's with that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcmlxxviii ( talk • contribs) 19:15, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
"The Western Rocky Mountains provide an ideal setting for the Wasatch Front metropolitan area of Utah, but they also prevent the population from expanding eastward." -- Is this some kind of joke against people from Utah, or is this serious? Either way its kinda chatty. 129.67.86.189 ( talk) 19:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
I believe that the second section of Climate should be removed. The Rockies stretches from N.Mex. to NW Alaska, one description WILL NOT cover all the variation in their climate. The current version is likely written by someone who took the data from a specific location.
I'll leave that up for one more week. If there are no objections, I will begin to make correction by first removing that section. – LegolasGreenleaf 13:43, 28 November 2004 (UTC)
Something is not right here: "an average of four people per square kilometer (2.5 per square mile)." 4 people/km^2 does not equal 2.5 people/mi^2, but I don't know which number is wrong. -- GJKing 19:38, 21 June 2005 (UTC)
User:Hogs555 has replaced the previous photograph of Moraine Lake with his/her own photograph of a section of Rocky Mountain National Park. I believe that the previous photograph is a better choice: Moraine Lake is a major tourist attraction, while there is nothing remarkable about the subject of Hogs555 photograph. Further, the previous photograph was higher quality: it shows the details in the mountains, with snow and a lake. With the existing photograph, the Rockies are washed out and do not show many details. Trees in the foreground obscure the mountains, also.
I would propose reverting to the old photograph, or finding an even higher-quality photograph (a featured one?) to use. — hike395 ( talk) 22:43, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
I went ahead and did an overhaul of the images, because a lot of them were lower quality older images that didn't illustrate the article. Now that Commons has grown so vast, I was able to find higher-quality images that directly illustrated concepts in the article. I also moved the images to be closer to the relevant concepts. Feel free to continue to improve! — hike395 ( talk) 18:42, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
I just reverted the addition of many images from Colorado, far too many for geographical balance I think. Also the infobox photo was changed again - see above. Please discuss here before replacing any of these images. Mikenorton ( talk) 13:43, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
I placed the image of Pikes Peak in this article because I noticed that in the tourism section there was a picture of GlacierNational Park and Yellowstone but nothing from Colorado which is actually the top state for tourism in the Rocky Mountains, there was nothing biased meant by it, unlike the person from Montana who admits to being biased but for some reason that's okay. I'm confused why everyone is so sensitive about this article. Also as you all mention above, a balance of pictures in terms of Geographics is mandatory, but I attempted to replace two pictures of Colorado including the one from Roxborough Park and Mount Elbert which would have maintained the balance and yet they were still reverted. It is my understanding that all of this has nothing more to do with other than your personal opinions of which pictures are better, if this is the case then Wikipedia is not fair in allowing anyone to edit articles as it seems that it is just a matter of editors and some users opinions and choices. Look I just say this because it seems that all pictures have been on this article for a long time and unless they meet your specific opinions then no one else's pictures matter. There are many better pictures from all areas of the Rockies that are more spectacular and equally spectacular as these but none of you want to allow anyone else to showcase these. I'm very very very confused. Anyway thanks for listening.( Hogs555 ( talk) 02:45, 2 January 2012 (UTC))
Also it seems that all the users above seem to have a bias against Colorado for no reason at all. I dont care I'm just posting photos, If I post some photos of Yellowstone and the Wasatch range while removing all CO pictures I dont anyone would care which proves my point. People are free to add photos of Montana, Utah, Canada, etc. anytime, just because they dont shouldn't make it wrong for someone to post pics of Colorado. There are hundreds of other articles on wikipedia that violate all the "reasons" you have said for what is okay in this article. It seems like everyone here is a hypocrite and can't seem to realize it. On the Cascades Page there are four pictures of Washington and only two of Oregon and California, why is this okay if Geographical balance is mandatory the cascades are far more than just Washington? For years on the article about the Western United States there were no pictures of famous attractions from Colorado and at least three for all the other states, and you all know what I'm talking about. I didnt care at all, but after reading all the reasons from you guys above it seems that this error on the Western US page should have been wrong and corrected. If that was okay why are my two pictures of Colorado wrong? Look it doesnt matter if you wont accept my photos, but I just cant understand the thought process here.( Hogs555 ( talk) 02:47, 2 January 2012 (UTC))
I'm not sure what the WP:other stuff exists page has to do with what I am talking about. Also I was not personally attacking anyone, I was just pointing out important factors in my reasoning. Also I still don't understand the reasons for deleting a photo that is high quality, and meets all criteria, and replaces an existing one. The Geographic balance reason cant apply to this, so it has to be just personal opinion and favoritism and mostly Biased favoring. Read some of the other responses on this page about my photos, and other user's contributions involving Colorado pics and get back to me if you still disagree. Look it doesnt matter anyways but if all the above users cant or wont understand what I'm saying then best of luck to everyone, and have a nice day.( Hogs555 ( talk) 03:34, 2 January 2012 (UTC))
The Britannica article covers some things this articles doesn't yet cover, or barely does:
It also has more detail on glaciation. Piccadilly 23:08, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
I just find it incredibly deflating that something as important as that, is not even mentioned in one sentence throughout the entire "detailed" history of the Rocky Mountains.... Someone please visit, or call the experts at Black Hills Institute of Geological Research, Inc. and I assure you, they have that information... Please make an updated mention... Thanks... Chris Banzet 10:34, 19 January 2013 (Eastern) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.103.48 ( talk)
User:67.162.145.28 seems to have a history of placing photographs by User:Hogs555 on Colorado-related articles. If such photographs are removed, the the removal seems to be quickly reverted. If User:67.162.145.28 is the same person as User:Hogs555, then I would urge him/her to edit logged-in as User:Hogs555: to do otherwise may violate Wikipedia's sockpuppetry policy.
As for the choice of images: the photograph I added of the barn in front of the Tetons is a featured image. As such, it is already been judged as one of Wikipedia's finest images. I don't think we need a separate vote on whether the picture of Mount Sneffles is superior to that featured image. The tundra picture is a Quality Image at Commons, so has also been previously judged to be of high quality.
As for the 55 million year figure: that is the (rough) date of the end of the Laramide orogeny. Changing the date to 1 million years ago makes it seem that the Laramide orogeny ended 1 million years ago.
For the benefit of User:67.162.145.28: please check out the 3 reversion policy. Before performing another revert, I would urge you to discuss here. — hike395 ( talk) 02:54, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Let's consider the three photos, above, for inclusion to illustrate alpine tundra in the Rockies. The one on the left is currently in the artciel, and it has been rated a quality image at Commons. User:67.162.145.28 keeps deleting that one and inserting the center one, without explanation. It appears to be taken near the same location, but has a bunch of rocks in the foreground that block the view of the characteristic alpine tundra grassland. The left image has much more view of the grass.
I actually prefer the image on the right, taken from near Copper Mountain, rather than Rocky Mountain National Park. It shows wildflowers that often bloom in the alpine tundra. I think it's more colorful.
What do other editors think? — hike395 ( talk) 05:24, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a single article about the entire North American mountain "complex" (for want of a better word) that is the Rockies, Sierra Nevada, Pacific Coast Ranges and all parts of the Sierra Madre, which all constitute a single unit of the same geological process - i.e. the subduction of the Pacific plate under the North American plate. In fact, this same process is responsible for the creation of the Isthmus of Panama and the Andes. In geological terms, all of these mountains are constitute a single range. BigSteve ( talk) 08:16, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
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Please change the initiation of the Rocky Mountain's from the Laramide Orogeny to the Sevier/Columbian Orogeny. Laramide deformation begins at the end of the Sevier Orogeny in the Eocene ~ 55 million years ago, Sevier deformation began in the Middle to Upper Jurassic ~160 million years ago Refrences: DeCelles 2004, Miall et al., 2008, Fuentas et al., 2009 and 2011 2604:6000:D504:C800:6C2C:69DD:F01C:AABB ( talk) 02:00, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
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See also link to Fenn treasure doesn't belong on this article, as it is tangential, and much less directly related to the subject of this article than the hundreds or even thousands of other articles about people, places, or things in this vast region. I can't take care of it myself because of the semi-protect. -- 155.95.90.245 ( talk) 23:00, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
This sentence doesn't seem right:
>>> French is another official language in Canada's national parks. <<<
The Rockies are not stretching across areas where a sizable population of French-speaking Canadians lives. I would suggest deleting this sentence in full. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Da Vinci Nanjing ( talk • contribs) 19:38, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Other sources (including Wikkipedia: /info/en/?search=North_Franklin_Mountain#Geology) claim the southernmost tip of the Rocky Mountains is the Guadalupe Mountain range in west Texas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.211.201.90 ( talk) 19:31, 2 August 2017 (UTC)