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I'm removing the same-sex marriage template for two reasons. First, it causes formatting problems. However the second reason is more important: most of these amendments ban civil unions as well, and thus, it would make more sense to insert the civil unions template into the article. Yet as this would interfere with formatting, I think neither should be in place. And after all, the article does link rather prominantly to both gay marriage and civil unions. -- Zantastik talk 00:27, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
And there's a huge legal battle going on right now, due to it. However I'm too lazy to add it, and change the image-- Acebrock 05:46, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
This list, like everything on wikipedia, should scrupulously respect NPOV. POV comes in may shapes and forms -- undue weight, full-fleged bias, weasel words, etc. Thus this article does not speak of "gay marriage" -- terminology originally used by its supporters. By the same token, uncritically calling these constitutional amendments "defense of marriage amendments" without even noting that such terminology is associated with opponents of civil unions and same-sex marriage is biased as well.
Despite what an edit summary may say about "facts" and "official titles", not a single one of these amendments is officially called a "defense of marriage amendment". (Even AL's amendment, whose title is more descriptive, does not use this title). All the same, these kinds of amendments are often called "defense of marriage amendments". For this reason, it seems appropriate to use this term when discussing them as a group -- after all, we cannot create neologisms on wikipedia. Yet neither can we simply take the ammendments' supporters' claims at face value, that they do, in fact, defend marriage. Each side claims to be pro-marriage; no matter how we feel about the issue, Wikipedia must be neutral in this, and in all such debates. -- Zantastik talk 07:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I have a concern with this recent edit. The edit placed Nebraska and South Dakota in the same category with Virginia, stating that NE and SD have "Amendments that ban same-sex marriage, civil unions, and other contracts" instead of merely "Amendments that ban same-sex marriage and civil unions, but not other contracts". Virginia was placed in the former category because there are reliable sources that have discussed the VA amendment in this context (see the two sources at the end of the second paragraph in the introduction). However, I am not aware of sources that discuss the NE and SD amendments similarly. That said, obviously the NE and SD amendments do have language that *potentially* could place them in the same category as VA. However, given that the language of these amendments does not clearly do so (in fact, they are not as harsh as VA's amendment in a side by side comparison), and given that I am aware of no sources that indicate that the NE and SD amendments should be in this category, I am going to revert the changes to the maps and this list. I know the changes were in good faith and believe that there is a decent argument for including the two amendments in the last category, however, I have to conclude that it qualifies as original research to do so for now. · j e r s y k o talk · 05:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't see what's so "harsh" at all about Virginia and Michigan. Any ban on civil unions or domestic partnerships is equally harsh. Why don't we just read the laws for what they SAY until they're construed by a COURT otherwise? Theknightswhosay ( talk) 21:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
NEBRASKA
Article :
Experts say the passage of antigay initiatives was due at least partly to poorly worded ballots that confused voters. "The average apathetic voter does not have a lot of time to prepare to vote," says Amy Miller, legal director and staff attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union's Nebraska chapter. "Just reading the [Nebraska] amendment, it did not stand out what was at stake.
NEBRASKA INITIATIVE 416
Though activists expected a tight race in Nebraska, more than two thirds of voters there eventually approved the state's "Defense of Marriage Amendment," Initiative 416--an amendment to the state constitution that bans not only civil unions but also domestic-partner relationships.
Nebraska is the first state to ban domestic partnerships, and in so doing, it may open up a legal can of worms. Some experts argue that the new law will not only outlaw domestic-partner arrangements but also make it illegal for businesses to offer domestic-partner benefits to employees. In some cases it could also make some standing business relationships illegal. "Domestic partner is also a legal term in Nebraska for a business partnership, such as might exist between a father and a son," says the ACLU's Miller.
SOUTH DAKOTA
Article :
This amendment will effectively add the terms civil union, domestic partnership, or other quasi-marital relationship to the list of families that the state will not recognize.
In effect this amendment will bar any form of equal protection that would be afforded to non-traditional relationships involving both gay and straight families that will affect the abilities of these families to gain access to health care, life saving medical decisions involving their partner and inheritance rights.
The religious conservatives in our state have already legislated against gays getting married and this amendment is just piling on and could have a major negative effect on the various forms of non-traditional families bordering on outright discrimination. This is not about the ability of gays to marry, it is about taking away rights from families that do not fit the state’s definition of marriage.
IMPORTANT TO READ : this confirms the fact ! Mimich 11:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Documents on this page suggest that all institutions were banned in SD because they may evoluate, hence also "all quasi-marital relationships". Domestic partnership in California equals a civil union. Mimich 12:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
It seems pretty clear that Michigan belongs there, no? National Pride at Work v. Governor of Michigan-- Inonit ( talk) 21:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
SOUTH CAROLINA
Has the SC Supreme Ct. spoken on this issue? Have legal scholars or other reliable sources weighed in, as far as you know? Interwebs ( talk) 12:30, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
References
These states may need to be added to this list after November. I've read that all are voting on amendments this year. Interwebs ( talk) 16:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Results: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/ballot.measures/ Incomplete in some states as of this posting. Interwebs ( talk) 16:40, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Nebraska and South Dakota's constitutions banned all types recognition of same-sex unions. See [2], [3], [4]. I still looking other soures concerning South Dakota. Ron 1987 ( talk) 16:28, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) "Registered union" doesn't exist and would be WP:OR - and in Maryland for example there is not even a registry. Just "union" is unspecific and doesn't mean anything either. The problem is, that the article treats civil unions as a synonym for same-sex unions with a legal basis other than a private contract. Wisconsin bans domestic partnerships similar to marriage but allows them with substantially less benefits. The article is inherently inconsistent. I suggest delisting the article from featured status until a solution is found. Hekerui ( talk) 18:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
The title of this article seems less than neutral. Only one side of the debate would refer to these laws as a "defense of marriage" and none of the reliable sources refer to these amendments collectively as such. The title should be changed to something a little more straightforward such as "List of amendments to U.S. state constitutions limiting gay marriage." -- Loonymonkey ( talk) 19:07, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Fixed the title, no amendment exists that bans a same-sex couple's relationship. Hekerui ( talk) 16:15, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
I have no problem with the title of the article. That is what the article is about. However, the amendments also need to be properly described as actually not 'banning same sex marriage', but defining marriage in a certain way. One of many results of the ammendment is banning same-sex marriage but is not what the ammendments actually states. Rodchen ( talk) 08:25, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Surely Hawaii is a special case technically. The other cases are of provisions that write a ban into the state constitution, mainly in order to prevent courts from ruling that same-sex marriage is a right. Hawaii's provision, as I understand it, removes the issue from the realm of constitutional rights (where courts rule) and places it in the realm of ordinary politics (which is what is decided by the political process). The Hawaiian legislature has decided to ban same-sex marriage but if Hawaii becomes more liberal the legislature can just change the law.
I don't dispute that it belongs in this list because it is part of the same process (a response to overrule rulings on rights) but I think the distinction is nevertheless important for clarity of thought.
Hence I am proposing to edit to read "Hawaii's amendment is unique in that it does not make same-sex marriage unconstitutional; rather, it allows but does not positively require the state to limit marriage to opposite-sex couples. (Thus, strictly speaking it does not ban same-sex marriage but removes the issue from the realm of constitutional rights to that of ordinary political decision, though the effect is de facto the same.)" Any comments? Aardwolf ( talk) 11:32, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
North Carolina should be the darkest color. "Marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State." This applies to things other than civil unions. I don't have the software to edit .svg images. DavidSSabb ( talk) 06:06, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Why is Ohio listed under "Amendments that ban same-sex marriage and civil unions, but not other contracts" (emphasis added)? Its language -- "Only a union between one man and one woman may be a marriage valid in or recognized by this state. This state and its political subdivisions shall not create or recognize a legal status for relationships of unmarried individuals that intends to approximate the design, qualities, significance or effect of marriage." -- seems very close to that of Viginia -- This Commonwealth and its political subdivisions shall not create or recognize a legal status for relationships of unmarried individuals that intends to approximate the design, qualities, significance, or effects of marriage. Nor shall this Commonwealth or its political subdivisions create or recognize another union, partnership, or other legal status to which is assigned the rights, benefits, obligations, qualities, or effects of marriage." -- which is include under the heading "Amendments that ban same-sex marriage, civil unions, and other contracts". I'm having trouble teasing out the distinction.
Upon reflection, I'd say the distinction between those 2 table segments is hard to justify. See also NC. 68.162.221.100 ( talk) 20:00, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Each table lists the "Support Vote %", but I believe it would be informative to also have a column that shows the percentage of the total state population that actually voted in favor of the amendment. Having only the Support Vote % is misleading because it only includes the subset of the population that decided to vote on that specific issue at that specific time. Wkrick ( talk) 14:58, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
The amendment is not yet invalidated per http://gov.ca.gov/docs/Letter_to_County_Officials.pdf so the page cannot say that it is. The page states the facts around the decision but should not represent things as facts that have not yet come to pass. Hekerui ( talk) 20:42, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
For a state to ban such a union seems to suggest that it be a criminal act. None of the states prosecute those who attempt to enter into a same sex union. Many states refuse to recognize or enforce contracts that establish same sex unions (marriage or otherwise). Due to these facts, it seems that this entry should be adjusted to cite states banning state recognition of same sex unions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beaven ( talk • contribs) 01:37, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
This article has, as the title says, a limited scope so I moved the new content on lawsuits and repeal efforts to the more appropriate main article U.S. state constitutional amendments banning same-sex unions. Hekerui ( talk) 12:28, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
[6] (Idaho and Kansas shouldn't be there), this map [7] (Colorado shouldn't be there), and [8] (Kansas) -- Prcc27 ( talk) 22:03, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
There is also Florida where the ban was ruled unconstitutional, isn't it? Titanicophile ( talk) 07:42, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
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